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>> well, i guess perhaps it is a positive sign in a sense, that we are seeing this progress, that there are emergency workers here now being more active, in bigger numbers, the fact that the european observers are allowed in, yes, it is positive. but it is still a long way from what is required. the numbers of people here, we need a lot more than that and they need to be qualified. they need to be professionals. experts in this sort of investigation, experts in processing bodies from this sort o...

All because they say they want to leave it untouched for a future investigation. we know thats not true because weve seen them in the debris field. weve seen them moving things. so the truth lies in there somewhere. but its still not clear, jim. >> and i spoke to ukrainian officials who accuse not just the rebels of trying to engineer a cover-up but also the russian government. i want to ask where you are now, phil and whats behind you? is that part of the cockpit? is that part of the area where...

Morning, we were surrounded by bodies still in these fields. since then all of those visible bodies have been packed up and taken away. the ukrainian government says they recovered 196 bodies, they have been taken as you say to a refrigeration car attached to a train at a town a short distance from here. the next destination for the bodies is unclear. we heard that they are going to be kept locally, when experts arrive and begin this investigation properly, the search for the remaining victims i...

Today certainly i think are the emergency workers expanding their control, expanding their authority and increasingly limiting access to these main impact zone areas. >> all right. boy, phil black, thank you so much for bringing us that scene. a very different one than what we saw just one hour ago. you all take care there. >> thank you, phil. >> well be talking to phil again throughout the next few hours. cnn is going to have so much more on this investigation into the crash of mh-17. secretary...

This still, fareed, because the people in charge on the ground are the guys with the guns and they are the pro-russian separatists militants no no doubt about that whatsoever and they are permitting emergency workers to come in and do their work and try to recover these bodies. but ultimately who is truly in possession of them once they have been recovered and even those that have been removed to refrigerated railcars nearby, that is still an open question. we cant say for certain that they are ...

The cockpit behind me, just a short time ago. we saw emergency workers cutting into whats left of it and making really quite significant damage to whats left of it in order to try and remove, they thought, what could be the remains of someone there. there was no one there. crucially though their own investigators werent here to study it before they did that damage. what we do have and the one clue video released by the reuters news agency, it is video that appears to show someone on friday carry...

Contaminated with -- they have been changed ultimately. we know that either emergency workers trying get the bodies out or some of those pro-russian militants, they have been here everywhere that we have been and altered the landscape. the question is have any of the pro-russian militants been going through this debris deliberately looking for those crucial voice and data recorders and this audio recording, these audio recordings that have been released by the ukrainian government, they support ...

Damaged the crime scene and ultimately the quality of the investigation. thats what the leadership is saying. we have been told by others here on the ground, though, that bodies were moved. how much? to where? we dont know. what it shows is one of the problems here and that is something of a disparity between the leadership and the militants and how their authority breaks down as it mofves down through the various groups or factions. the authority is not -- not in terms of who they allow on the ...

Ways every single day, not least of which through the recovery of the bodies. we saw the cockpit, or what remains of the cockpit today, really being cared open by emergency workers who were looking for human remains. they didnt find any, but they still -- they still did that anyway and crucially, it wasnt examined by investigators before they did that work. so, all of these changes are taking place and tough think that ultimately, this will have a significant impact on investigators ability to d...

Because the main back of the terrorists and the majority of the terrorists russians. >> lets bring in phil black now. >> hes at the crash site in eastern ukraine. phil, thank you for being with us. what are you seeing on the ground there? does it seem organized more so than yesterday and what do you know about the bodies? >> sure, we are seeing more progress here today, no doubt. in terms of control, and activity, the emergency workers who are guiding the recovery effort, theyre now restricting ...