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Leave but we want to keep things stable? is that even possible? >> well, its -- you know, there are no easy outcomes here. but certainly you can leave and leave behind more stability than you found. the idea of just precipitously leaving without any sort of iterative process either within your own government or with regional powers, without any effort to set up a diplomatic process going forward, is a recipe for creating more problems than there are now. so i hear the argument and a valid argume...

The point is youve got to have some kind of end state. a lot of people have been concerned about this sort of thing for a long time. and so its i think fair to raise that issue but not in this kind of precipitous one day you dont me anything about, it the next day the presidents decided were just going to pull up and run. when you run, bad things can happen. >> one last question for you. the president seemed to suggest that american troops overseas were doing the job of suckers today. listen to ...

>> well, those institutions you talked about, joe, are really going to have their work cut out for them in 2019. it is incredible. look, i agree with you that this -- we seem to have entered -- you called it terminal -- an unacceptable zone, a kind of end state of this administration where we have total chaos. government is shut down, the markets are in free-fall, we have a treasury secretary who perhaps accidentally further destabilized the markets over the weekend with ill-advised phone calls ...

State. and our end state since the end of world war ii in europe has been to help create a better society. to -- the marshall plan, the establishment of nato, all of those things were put together in order that people who had suffered the wounds and casualties of war could rise up again and become a stable people with stable governments. took a long time, but that was the end state. thats what presidents like bush were focused on as -- as they countered the soviet union at the time who were oppr...

Understanding that theres a requirement for respect for all people, to treat people equally and with the dignity they deserve. now we dont always get it right as a country, but certainly when youre a leader and you exhibit those values and especially at the national level when youre exhibiting our national values of dignity, liberty, respect, freedom, other nations will join in. and they wont treat you as an outsider. they will want to be more like you are. and i think thats why president bush i...

Into this like this is going to be a success. you have to, right? you have to go into this believing the outcome will be good. >> reporter: do you have to. you have to have that state of mind otherwise theres no reason to engage in diplomacy because you dont know what youre negotiating for and he has an end state in mind. were not interested in invading north korea just to invade north korea so therell be security guarantees likely and economic guarantees as secretary pompeo has said but those d...

Dump dealings in russia which gave u.s. the dossier. pete: we talked about who bob mueller has hired has undercut his credibility. all these high level democrat democratic lawyers to go after this president in a way that looks like its partisan, whether it is or not, has been effective to muddy the waters and show that this is something -- they are trying to prove an end state without the evidence to begin with. and where it will go and nobody knows. it never ends. ainsley: when you think about ...

The challenge we have got is that how do you build trust with someone who has proven to be not trustworthy at this point? so he has some challenges for him to prove he is committed to this process and i think that if theres any evidence that he is trying to slow weakness or otherwise, just not walk as deliberately to an end state that the world expects them to start walking towards, i think that we are going to reset this and im not sure just how the maximum pressure will continue to get ratchet...

Did china have a role in this >> the chinese had a role that they have been generally helpful in implementing sanctions against north korea and that has certainly helped. but lets also keep in mind that the chinese have their own interests including being supportive of the north koreans and chashlly the chinese have been looking the other way as ships registered in china have been violating the very sanctions that china claims to be upholding. so china is trying to have its cake and eat it too h...

That hes in the thick of with his national security council but would strategy, would the what do we do next piece that all through of you have brought up lacking a year ago, isnt that part of the discussion now? >> it certainly is i think. it is the key part of the discussion of where do you want to be when all of this is over, when the last smoke cloud clears, what do you want to have happen? when you dont know if its a tu punitive reaction to someone using chemical weapons or you want some en...