hiatus. i expect at this point there is no reason for pelosi to prevent him from doing that. the president that prides himself, a big part of his brand is his unwillingness to back down, and he basically had to walk away from that completely in the face of pelosi just standing firm. before we go because we re going into a big roger stone news that also accounts for some according to the timing of this, to both of you, is it possible that trump is playing three dimensional chess and after today mexico will pay for the wall? john? no, mexico is not going to pay for the wall. bob, what about you? could mexico still pay for the wall? no, i don t see that. even trump supporters say not directly, maybe through the new trade deal, but the answer more
federal government. i have a very powerful alternative that i didn t want to use at this time. hopefully it will be unnecessary. meanwhile in florida before dawn a former trump campaign advisor and long time friend roger stone investigated by a team of federal agents. stone charged with seven different counts, all of them involving obstructing official proceedings as well as lying about those stolen e-mails and alleged witness tampering. it outlines how the trump campaign, itself, had potentials coordinating with wiki leaks. now let s get right to it, hans nichhols is here from the white house. what is the new line of sdmechs. look as it pertains to the shut down we have a cease fire,
double-barrel story day with the government temporarily reopening and roger stone being indicted. before we went to the press conference on the hill i was asking a different legal expert a question that didn t get answered, which seems mule are could move forward with the indictment without the level of details, and one is roger steen explicitly trying to get certain e-mails from a very special couple of weeks in 2011. why is that in there? you re right, ari, that s a big-ticket question. this reads like a conspiracy indictment. mind you, roger stone has not yet been charged with conspiracy, only false statements, obstruction of justice and witness tampering. but when you read the 24 pages, it has all of the building blocks of a conspiracy indictment. frankly, it reminded me of when michael cohen entered his plea in new york to the campaign finance violations that he committed at the direction of president trump. now, that wasn t a conspiracy indictment either, but we all
board or he holds fast and beats his chest and dies in prison. bob mueller doesn t need him as a cooperator but i suspect he wants him as a cooperator because everything he can bring to the table about donald trump, given their decades-long relationship. yeah. all well put. of course, as i mentioned earlier in our reporting, like anyone, stone is presumed innocent. glen kerrish under and glen, thank you both. i want to tell you breaking news, once the government is back open, it will likely take less than a week for all of the back pay to get to federal workers. something on the minds of many today. they would receive the paycheck then next as regularly scheduled. and that wraps up this hour of breaking news. i want to tell you tonight on the beat we have a very special show. sam nunnburg, a former trump campaign aide who testified in the hearing, including about stone, joins me, i will be joined by get me roger stone director, a big documentary on netflix with a lot to get you
looked at that and said it sure seems like trump is an unindicted co-conspirator in those crimes. the same holds true here i would contend because if you look at what is alleged against other individuals, it sure seemed like the unindielted co-conspirators, stone, person one, julian assange because he s the head of wikileaks and perhaps more ominously for the administration, unidentified senior trump campaign officials. and that looks back. the flip side would be with all of these resources and all of these prosecutors, directed is not the technical legal trigger of conspiracy. do you read it as not quite there or not quite yet? i read it as not quite yet. this is a preview of things to come because now mueller will see whether stone folds like a cheap lawn chair and comes on