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Investigation. what guides these rules and guidelines in the other countries is the regulations. we have to keep in mind that no one is required to follow the regulations to the letter. i look at the material right before this interview and i didnt see anything in there that specifically addresses tapes. it talked about how cdrs have to be protected. it said communication between those operating aircraft should be with held, should be kept skon if confidential. i think its a reasonable request. ...

System called adsb, automatic dependent surveillance broadcast. youre giving information thats sending directly from an airplane to a satellite and back down to a ground station that reports it. just similar to a radar situation. so air traffic control constantly knows where you are. and that system is available in the north atlantic. >> what do you mean from company to air traffic control? >> well, adsb is an air traffic control function where acars is more developed as a company-type function....

Prime minister say, we have the joint task force, we are going to go out and do that. i this i that sets a tone. they should ask the nations of the world for the information. surely, you can figure out if you are the intelligence service, you can figure out a way to provide the information without giving up sensitive security information. >> so what have we learned here now? god forbid something like this happens in the future. what have we learned that will make it better for the investigation ...

Theyre saying. >> for the constraints of time that you have, you do have sources and you are of the belief that our government in particular has a lot more information. can you confirm that you have sources that also are adding to your theory? >> not now, i cant. as you know im in the witness protection program right now. >> okay, fair enough. >> i dont want to put you -- >> im a face to face person. yeah, and rolls royce, get rolls royce and get boeings comments. they know a lot about from that...

Theyre saying. >> for the constraints of time that you have, you do have sources and you are of the belief that our government in particular has a lot more information. can you confirm that you have sources that also are adding to your theory? >> not now, i cant. as you know im in the witness protection program right now. >> okay, fair enough. >> i dont want to put you -- >> im a face to face person. yeah, and rolls royce, get rolls royce and get boeings comments. they know a lot about from that...

>> i think any pilot is loathe to question the abilities of another professional pilot. this captain, in particular, had a lot of experience. however, i keep trying to jump on some logic train that would lead me away from the crew and coincidence keeps getting in the way. the coincidence, for example, that just two minutes after the last communication, the transponder was turned off. that the fact that the airplane turned just as it was transferring from malaysian airspace into vietnamese airs...

Flew out toward penang on the western coast of malaysia, out of the straits of malacca and the pings they received from the engine data aligned almost perfectly with an airway heading northwest toward sri lanka. >> i want to talk about that theory. but first, karen, i wanted to ask you if -- theres been a lot of confusion about what exactly the transponder is. its a frequency thats in there in the cockpit you can set. have you ever had occasion as a pilot to turn the transponder off? is there so...

>> days were looking in what we now believe was the wrong area mostly because of the incompetence of the malaysian government and really wasnt until the united states got involved and started coming forward with these data collected from engine transmissions that we realized it was wrong. why was there a lag period where the u.s. government was not really involved in this investigation? >> i think the united states has been involved from the beginning. i think one of the aspects that really hasn...

The search, but this is not a normal investigation. in this case, the information we have to process further and further afield. engine data. yesterday, we rejected a media report in which unnamed officials said that engine data showed the plane had kept flying for hours after last contact. we checked with boeing and rolls royce, who said the reports were not true. and i quote -- this is a statement from rolls royce -- "rolls royce continues to provide report to the authorities and malaysian air...