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>> bob: the rapes went up in the city and if you took the police force out, do you think it would go down? >> eric: so when biden is trying to push a jobs bill, he should say things like if you dont pass the jobs bill, rapes will go up? >> bob: absolutely. because what you are doing is keeping police and firemen -- [ overtalk ] >> bob: if you want to be around and associated with a party that keeps teach them -- go ahead. shove it down your throat. >> eric: you are the first democrat to defend h...

♪ ♪ >> kimberly: welcome back to "the five." so we have solyndra, sun powe power, and now a third. obama administration grants $529 million loan to the electric car company. it doesnt sound so bad at first, right? listen to this. the cars arent being made in the usa. no. bob, this is true. frightening but true. theyre being manufacturered in -- wait for it -- finland. how is that for stimulation of the good old usa. >> bob: i better rick has something to say about this. >> eric: i do. this i...

Delaware. >> bob: can i suggest in the future when we do the anti-obama stories we might want to put facts like those up at the beginning of the discussion? as opposed to letting eric put out the bad facts? are you saying the suppliers are not from the united states? >> eric: they are trying to say the money that the government gave wasnt spent there. it was spent here. meanwhile, all the jobs are over there. >> kimberly: bob, there is no making you happy. >> bob: no making me happy? are you kid...

>> eric: i hear another bet coming out. by these times this year neither one of these companies will be -- >> bob: thats not true. >> eric: tesla the other $500 million loan, you know who one of their big, one of the founders ely musk, huge obama donor as well. >> bob: so what? al gore in elick cars, is that a big sport? you think they are going to insnares the industry? this is a guy, his position. of course he invests in it. secondly, if you want to make the bet, i said it would be finished ne...

Loud. >> andrea: crazy. >> bob: that is the story of my life. eric, you think he should give back the peace prize? >> eric: im trying to figure out what the nobel peace prize gets. >> bob: dont worry about. it you aint going to get it. >> eric: troops to afghanistan. he uses the drones. by the way, i think the drone program is fantastic. i wish you would credit george bush and say bush was the one who put all the infrastructure in place. yes, the obama -- [ inaudible ] absolutely. number one, cr...

>> bob: no, not with cancer. more people ripped off by more different quacks as you pointed out. we have to make a distinction there is some legitimate alternative medicines that have been around for a long time. st. johns wort is proven help against depression. steve mcqueen, if you remember mcqueen, he had stomach cancer and went to mexico for series of treatments and it killed him this story about jobs is true, its another indictment to allow the stuff be advertise, beginning with the fact yo...

There i think is a bad ad to run for romney. >> kimberly, there is a subtle message saying rick perry isnt as good as barack obama. >> kimberly: very odd. that was a terrible ad. i thought it was awful. i feel like i could make it on my computer upstairs. thats saying something! i dont think its effective at all. it looked mean-spirited and pathetic. you are putting down republicans in a way, and not good. >> bob: i want -- go ahead. >> kimberly: i was going to say theyre going to come back twic...

Police force out, do you think it would go down? >> eric: so when biden is trying to push a jobs bill, he should say things like if you dont pass the jobs bill, rapes will go up? >> bob: absolutely. because what you are doing is keeping police and firemen -- [ overtalk ] >> bob: if you want to be around and associated with a party that keeps teach them -- go ahead. shove it down your throat. >> eric: you are the first democrat to defend him. everyone else said he went too far. >> bob: they must ...

So $478 billion is broken up to a bunch of bills. are any of them worthwhile? >> andrea: some are. the trade deals they did were worthwhile. things that obama had on his desk for a long time. he came out and announced the jobs bill and put in provisions that republicans could get behind, jobs for veterans, trade deals and as bob said, the payroll cut. this is something i think he will get republican support. tough to vote against it. but how does obama turn this in to a win >> eric: >> bob: he w...

>> kimberly, there is a subtle message saying rick perry isnt as good as barack obama. >> kimberly: very odd. that was a terrible ad. i thought it was awful. i feel like i could make it on my computer upstairs. thats saying something! i dont think its effective at all. it looked mean-spirited and pathetic. you are putting down republicans in a way, and not good. >> bob: i want -- go ahead. >> kimberly: i was going to say theyre going to come back twice as strong on him. perry will come back on r...