movement. they tend to be pro-state s rights and the liberals are pro-gay so arguing towards the middle, these are justice kennedy s favorite things. that s clearly a fifth vote for this case. we assume. so i think everyone imagined everyone since appellate court struck it down, that it leads to the supreme court to review the case. everyone thought they would take the case. i think they are going to do the right thing and strike it down. the other case is much more complicated. the doma case doesn t affect any state decisions. where the perry case, the outcome that s the prop 8 case in california. exactly. thank you for helping me out there.