to cut a deal. i think it s wise for her because it places great power in her hands. i was asking kaitlan what she thought and i wonder what you feel, this feels from someone who s not a d.c. insider different from bernie sanders and angus king who caucus with the democrats and are pretty reliable. do you think it s different? totally different. i think most americans don t regard senator sanders as an independent because we re used to seeing him run for president as a democrat. remember in the recent election, evan mcmullen ran as an independent in utah, put up a good showing but was unsuccessful. there was a question of this and i asked it of evan, okay, you re going to be an independent but will you caucus with either party because if you don t won t you lose any committee standing. he cited for me on cnn, a senate rule, i think it was 25 but don t hold me to it, he said