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This is something trump does incredibly well, whether you like his policies or not, he walks into the dairy queen, everybody loves him. its a -- you can feel. is this stage, nobody wants to set next to either of those people on a long airplane trip. thats not what you want to. do you have to convey, that could get the cross somehow to the voters. because its to some extent a popularity contest. >> they did come right out of the, gate jamie, attacking one another. it was and therefore statements....