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And go from there. >> former defenseretary bill ho cohen its a pleasure to have your analysis and perspective here. thank you very much. we have a lot of breakdowns of all the angles coming up, including what a full denuclearization of north korea will really look were talking with two people who know more about this than just about anybody else on the planet. didsident trump just supply kung with tim jong-e mother of all photo ops? all of it a propaganda push and all of it as we wrap up a ful...

Different thing from negotiating with dictators. i think if we didntrn anything else from the 1930s, i think we learned that happy summitry, emy words, potentially empty words and lots of flags and mony, dont necessarily lead to the consequences that we hope for. and so i think a dose of healthy, healthy skepticism here is important. this is the kind of thing that wouldap aong process, not begin one. perhaps this is the right way to do it. well see. but were not dealing with, in north korea, a k...

>> trump would make the argument planes, army needs to do it. thats what his argument would be. he would say youre making the case for him. >> heres the thing. all of that has an impact. all of that has helped bring kim jong-un to the negotiating table. all of those over the years have confined kims bad behavior to a limited sphere of influence. those things work. you could argue that exercises are useless if they dont work. weve seen over and over again they actually do work. if it was such a s...

Its supposed to be difficult but isnt that what is required? our allies, our friends and enemies know there will be consistency in our foreign policy regardless of who is sitting in the oval office? >> in principle i agree. it doesnt have to be in the form of a treaty, theres lower threshol thresholds, majority votes with executive agreements which are politically more realistic. i like the idea of hearings so the administration has to defend wh its done. what weve had in singapore -- it would b...

Those military exercises serve multiple purposes, not only do they deter aggression by the north, but they serve other interests in the asiapathpacifi region. >> joe? >> richard, we know what the north koreans got out of this. they had a murderous despot share the state with the representative of the united states of america. theyre getting the suspension of military exercises, which im sure our allies like the japanese may not be particularly pleased with. what did the united states get out of ...

From south korea. he said denuclearization just referro north korea getting rid of its weapons. is he concerned that the north may break its promises? >> how do you ensure that north korea is not all talk, no action? >> well, i think can you ensure anything? can i ensure that youre going to be able to sit down properly when you sit down? i mean, you cant ensure anything. all i can say is they want to thats what ido. my whole life has been deals. ive been great at it. thats what do. and i know wh...

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And different character traits of each player were taken into deep consideration as each player was trying to figure out how to work out some sort of commonality. we dont have that here and the over thing we dont have is regard for the human rights part of this which is swept away. we dont have regard for that and even deeper and more broadly we dont have a concept of where the united states should be in northeast asia. what will be our lowell this? you get the sense from the president he would ...

Thing about the most murderous regime, one of the most murderous regimes on the face of the earth. >> yeah. well complexity is not donald trumps friend, obviously, never has been and isnt here. suddenly that personal characteristic, his need to simplify everything, to make a deal out of it in which he is a protagonist and the person across the table is a co-star to some extent, is now intersecting with the life of nations. youre exactly right about president reagan. remember his said his psophy ...