hook for some of the statements that were made. so i m sure it s anxiety inducing for a lot of them and on top of everything else that they re watching politically, which if you look at any of the national polls that have come out lately, even though his base has remained solid, you see incremental degradation with the general electorate. losing to joe biden. i m sure some republican is going to come along and make that point in the primary. we ve seen very bad weeks for him before and he s managed to publicly at least in the court of public opinion he s been able to skirt around it. this feels different to me. and it may be different. first of all, when it comes to public opinion, something like 60%, 61% of the country does not want him to run in 2024. his base is solidly behind him and the republican voters are solidly behind him but the independents have walked away. in fact, the number goes up to 67% for independents don t want him to run. so things are not working th
next public hearing. the perspective could be a game changer in the quest to learn more about former president trump s efforts to overturn the 2020 election. sworn testimony from previous hearings puts him at the center of pivotal events including in the oval office on january 3rd shooting down the plan to replace the acting attorney general. on january 6th, two sources say he was with trump, watching the riot unfold on television. the next day tried in vain to get trump to call for the prosecution of the rioters. marshall, obviously critical testimony on capitol hill, what more are we learning about what happened in those eight hours behind closed doors. eight hours. it s almost miraculous that this even happened, right, phil. a year and a half has gone on since january 6th. the committee interviewed a thousand witnesses. but they couldn t get cipollone. now they did. and they got him on tape, on video, and hopefully in the coming days we ll finally start to see some of th
it s extremely crucial. it s one he s going to lose. there is no privilege here for any of these people. they re trying to claim attorney/client privilege. the fact of the matter is the people like the white house counsel were not his personal attorneys. they cannot claim attorney/client privilege for those conversations. as to executive privilege, that s been decided in u.s. versus nixon back in 1974. you cannot claim a privilege when you re talking about overthrowing the government. that is not covered by a privilege. it is not an absolute privilege, executive privilege. and generally with respect to any kind of privilege, whether it s attorney general, executive p privile priv privilege, marital privilege,
one of the things that i ve been very curious about, i think this is one of the reasons that pat cipollone was reticent to come in over the last several months is the idea of executive privilege. you worked in the council office, trump argues that his white house testifying sets a dangerous precedent. the white house council represents the office not the individual. what s your read on issues of privilege with this testimony in particular? there s kexecutive privilege and attorney-client executive p with joe biden right now as he s in the office. there are important institutional issues relating to attorney/client privilege that are very important that s why it s key that they negotiated his testimony, if you will,