hasn t had his exit interview. that after a mental rw memo was leaked that the department of public safety said that no one would be fired from this incident. extreme failure, zero transparency. refusing to hear the truth about what happened. you ve been as passionate and strong voiced on all of these issues, the families appreciate that. roland gutierrez, we ll continue this conversation with you sir. thank you for being with us. thank you so much. elise, so many mass shootings in this last year, you have to stop and read the stories again and remember what happened, you can t turn your head and move on from something like a bunch of fourth graders being shot in their school.
to think about that, i was working on some other reporting over here, delicate dumping, is there such a thing? i don t know. john: apparently so. sandra: cruel and toxic. john: like quiet quitting. if your relationship is not going well, end it. right? don t just like kind of string it out. sandra: conduct an exit interview, maybe not, maybe not. ok. john: cut the cord. sandra: i don t know if i can preach on that subject. john, in just moments the white house press secretary karine jean-pierre will give an update on the latest round of debt ceiling talks ahead of president s meeting with the big four congressional leaders. joining us in studio, dagen and garrett. welcome to both of you. what s the inside scoop on capitol hill, what s going to happen? something interesting here, democrats has been hopeful and
combative mayor who led chicago through crisis, some of her own making. nine of the tribune or other outlets were granted an exit interview with lori lightfoot, she said her administration created real change. one of the first thing mayor johnson will need to do, pick out a new police intendant. david brown is turning the mandatory retirement age. ashley: thank you. of course we are checking in with gianno caldwell, who is having breakfast with friends just outside of chicago to find out what voters think about the new mayor. 78-year-old u.s. citizen sentenced to life in china. he was detained two years ago by officials in southeastern chain. in a brief statement, the chinese courts he was found guilty of espionage, sentenced