when are open to looking at reality, he gave a long speech to russian people before he invaded. he has a lifetime of saying same things, said greatest disaster of 20th century was the collapse of soviet union. he is committed to reestablishing the russian tradition, ukraine is a key part of russia. i think he has been shocked because the ukrainians slowed down, and someplace defeated the russian army. i think he thought they would collapse, it not clear he could ever occupy all of ukraine. and yet, i think he can t figure out an exit strategy, he is out on a limb. i think that the job, this is the crisis of western democracy. if we don t have the guts to
far too fast, we might cause putin to be upset, putin doesn t need an exit strategy. putin started a war, and it needs to be finished by the ukrainians. general clark, ambassador dalder, thanks to both of you. really appreciate your thoughts this evening. secretary of state antony blinken says we cannot become numb to these atrocities. we re going to talk to a member of ukraine s parliament about how these images out of bucha affect her personally, what consequences she would like to see for russia. that s next. rself an average of seven hundred and thirty dollars. (custotomer) that s something. (burke) get a whole lot of something with fararmers. we are farmers.bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-m-bum this is a game changer who dares to be fearless
being killed in the russian military. high deaths in terms of russian generals. now the russians are relying on mercenaries, people being forced in from syria, forced in by hezbollah. if the russian army can t get their own people to sustain this fight and the ukrainians are inspiring more of their people to fight, i think this battle, not only is it protracted, it goes on a long time, but i don t know how the russians win or can take anything away. the last part, joe, that you mentioned, this is that land bridge down here. they ve not even been able to secure mariupol after an entire month essentially of besieged warfare and this is a thin strip. we ve seen the ukrainians essentially launching or lobbing missiles towards the naval port down here. with all of the big picture i m not sure what putin s exit strategy will be. he will want to claim the east but it could be weeks or months and i think we want peace in between. clint, a quick follow up.
not changed and has actually gotten more aggressive against civilian populations. and they may be doing that just to give themselves time to regroup because of the logistics challenges that we ve been talking about over the last couple of weeks in terms of food, water, medical supplies. or it may be that as part of putin s narrative, he needs an exit strategy which is essentially, you know, sort of burn the place down as he exits. so we just don t know yet but there s really nothing to trust at this stage except for to continue to arm the ukrainians and support the ukrainians in the fight against the russians. do you feel that s going to be enough to pour more resources into ukraine to help them, you know, fortify their strategy, their response when russia clearly is regrouping, perhaps repositioning itself, but still in country? right. so this is the challenge we
document is prepared. are negotiations simply futile and at this point, the international community needs to be getting a more cohesive plan together on how to save, rescue, ukraine because negotiations with russia, especially under these kind of conditions, it just doesn t seem feasible or logical? well, so this is the theory of the book is essentially you don t want to be in a position which you only have one lane toward success. so what you want to see in any war or any exit strategy is multiple lanes. so i would never say at this stage, cut off a potential lane for peace for ukraine. remember, this is the goal now. the goal is not, we hate putin, we hate the russian army. the goal is to help ukraine survive. and the larger goal may come later. and so i would never, in terms