political demonstrations but i think the bulk of people demonstrating, they want an end or a road map to some level of normalisation when it comes to zero covid or covid within this country. i cannot stress, if there is one case in the city, the whole city could be locked down and that has happened for the last three years. you are just so worried, when will the end come? we don t have any communication around an exit strategy and that is what people are calling for, some political demonstrations, we have heard some of the images, the videos you have played, the bulk of people are generally demonstrating for the end of covid or some sort of road map. stephen lynch from the british centre of commerce in china, thank you.
steven lynch is managing director of the british chamber of commerce in china, and is based in beijing. what evidence are you seeing of the protests? in 12 years i have never seen these levels of unrest. covid fatigue, a0 of the pandemic, dynamic zero covid policy, the rest of the world learning to live with the virus, we are seeing images of the virus, we are seeing images of the world cup where every country is coming together and what is happening here in china, back into mass lockdowns, harsh and some major cities. unfortunately it does not seem like there is any exit strategy, and insight, any end, for normal life to come back. people are fed up, scared and angry. it normal life to come back. people are fed up, scared and angry. fed up, scared and angry. it has been three fed up, scared and angry. it has been three years fed up, scared and angry. it has been three years of fed up, scared and angry. it has been three years of what - fed up, scared and angry. it has been thre
beijing, where people for at least the next few days have to remain indoors, and this is happening all across china. this country s strict anti covert measures have not stopped the country today recording its highest ever number of infections and it s putting enormous strain on the economy here. people who follow events here will have seen the workers at the largest producer of apple iphones clashing with police and there are pressures in different places, tibet, all along, people thinking when is this going to end. if the government has an exit strategy told people what it is that this is adding to the pressure on the system, the sort of panic and frankly people s faith in the government and its ability to control the situation is crumbling all over the place.
he would love to have a ceasefire, let him rebuild his forces, hang on to what he had, argue about sanctions, try to rebuild his military with high-tech components, have more time to work with the iranians to build their forces up and then he will get going again. there are a lot of well-meaning people in the west, in the united states and elsewhere, this is so horrible, we just have to stop the fighting. the problem is that s exactly what mr. putin wants. that is his exit strategy, if you would, not that he s going to leave, but he wants that pause to rebuild his forces. so it sounds like you re saying talking, discussing the possibility of a pause, not a good idea for ukraine. i think it s fine to do the talks as long as you can handle the domestic blow back on this. this is a problem for democracies because when you start talking, people who are outside the talks get the idea that peace is imminent and they want to cut the support to