actually exold is by far the biggest climate killer in the world. many times more people die of cold than of heat. this is on every continent. focused on how to keep people warm and no way to keep 8 billion people warm without low cost reliable energy from fossil fuels. the people who claim to care about climate and our safety from climate is totally counter productive to oppose fossil fuels which indicates they are not really concerned about protecting us from climate. there is a broader hostility toward energy and industry going on. >> katie: you make the excellent case in your book that we should be using more fossil fuels so more people around the world can actually flourish when it comes to daily lives and accomplish and pull themselves out of poverty and be safe. we always heard and heard this in o omnibus bill flew down to e island where president biden was staying sign it all the green energy stuff in it and offset everything with the carbon footprint. but the clean green, you know,