meetings that took place were between july, between the first assistant, the criminal chief, the palm beach office chief, and the line attorney and two fbi agents. you will notice that the initial meeting as outlined in this letter are all career attorneys. how they presented the terms, how epstein s attorneys were dissatisfied and asked for a meeting, how i subsequently went with their attorneys, along with all the career officials, however that meeting we then invited the chief of the child exploitation section from the department of justice to travel down. one of the things we wanted to make sure of was that he had, going back to the earlier question about the rule, that we had sufficient evidence to proceed ethically. and then the details a little bit on how epstein s counsel appealed the decisions to washington. i would refer you to the record.