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Committee. theyre trying to steal this election. >> theyre still saying it. >> i understand that. my point is -- >> the question -- >> is he convinced they havent done that. thats my point. >> i understand the president feels the need to be convinced. is the president adult enough to actually call the president-elect and say just that, to say you know what? congratulations on the race you ran. i want to play this out in the courts, but i, you know, and thats what were going to do as opposed to a...

He has a purpose. he has been through a lot. he is not a young guy. >> he is who he is. knows who he is. >> and there is a sense that that matters because of where he is and where the country is. >> thats a great point, because he has the freedom if he chooses to seize it of someone who has no other race in his future who doesnt have to be making those long-term calculations and who can take risks for the greater good. and if he takes advantage of that, you know, great things can happen. >> i al...

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Of the speech thats getting the most attention tonight. and rick santorum, to your point earlier, you heard vice president biden not saying, blaming republicans for an era of demonization. it was democrats and republicans and saying its a choice we both make. >> right. and thats why when he said that, okay, he is talking about both sides, not just talking about trump. he is playing fair. and thats really important. if youre going to go out there and youre going to reach out, you cant slap people...

Profile -- i mean her age, her -- the joe bidens age, the potential that he may only serve one term. >> this is unique, anderson. this is a unique political situation because rarely does -- never has a vice president entered office on the first day as the kind of presumed front-runner for the nomination four years later. and because of the dynamic that weve been discussing here, because she is seen by many on the left of the party as sort of their -- their person in the administration, the perso...

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Because there was this recognition, we just parked him in those states because he knew how to talk to folks there, he felt culturally akin to them. so, you know, i think he has a real claim to that. the question for the party is what happens post-biden. but right now, he was the right guy to put this back together. >> his complaint about hillary clintons campaign was that she didnt campaign in those states enough that youre talking about. >> but its not just that she didnt campaign there. she re...

Well see how much congressional republicans are willing to meet president-elect biden and vice president-elect harris on this field of decency and normalcy. its not just president trump that has been eroding norms of decency and -- >> hes had a lot of help. >> hes had a lot of help from a lot of people on capitol hill. well see whether or not they want to come back to planet earth and be good boys and girls and be decent and normal and adhere to facts and truth. i would say as a journalist tryin...