but i think she really wanted to see scott and she would ve done just about anything maybe. it was truly amazing what they were telling me. it had taken more than 20 years, but police had finally stitched together a time line for what was certainly cindy s final weekend. the bait, a chance to be with the puppy love boyfriend scott, the boy s father waiting in his white van at the dairy queen. i remember him specifically saying to her on the phone, this was one of the conversations she told me about. that he didn t understand why ed zarzycki would ground her from walking home from the mall because it was no big deal. i think he was trying to make her feel comfortable with him. the story told by both girls, now adults, absolutely floored mac. various cops over the years, even mac had talked to them, but somehow didn t hear it or didn t extract it, or maybe it wasn t offered in the same way. despite his excitement, mac had one nagging question. was it true? i even asked them, wh
is told, right? right now? yeah. at first, it seemed like ream wasn t taking the bait. the two sparred. if it doesn t matter what happened, it doesn t matter. it doesn t. it does matter. why would it matter? if you don t care, the family don t care? nobody cares no, we didn t say we didn t care, we just said we have closure. mac stuck to the game plan, pretend like it s all old history. i said i m fine with it, i m going to move on, and this guy was like hanging on to my i m trying to get up. i said art you ve got five minutes to write me out a map. the ploy was working. ream could sense the curtain was coming down and he didn t like not being center stage anymore. i don t have closure, so how the hell can they have closure? because that s the type of people they are. do they want their daughter back? of course they do. he took his trump card, it was perfect. art had no more control, he couldn t be the puppet master. mac took it from him. anyway, we re don
if she d give him an address, he d tell her whether she was hot or cold. he says, yes, you should look there, well, no, that s not a good place to look. we re going to start off with any of these places, should i start with this place? it s a good start. is it really a good start? rule all these out. take it from there. do your homework. he s playing this kind of juvenile game? yeah. what s he getting out of this little game? oh, i think he enjoyed being in control. i think he enjoyed being a manipulator, he also didn t have to sit there in the cell, you know, waiting, he got to smoke and he was in a room. so he enjoyed it that way. you re opening up the damned box. i m not afraid to open up that box. cause i told you to wipe that one off the slate. and i shouldn t have said that. why? what was the best info you got out of him? the fact that he sat there and could tell me where the body
seriously flawed and botched from the get-go. now two decades later, mac asked theresa to come down to the eastpointe p.d. and go over her story yet again. this time it was a different experience. i knew right away walking in there that he was listening to what i was saying. very intently. the story that the two friends told had for some reason never made it into the police files. it had to do with a surprise birthday party for scott and a planned meeting at the dairy queen. cindy had been over at kathy s house that saturday evening. cindy said she was going to hook up with scott s father in the morning. and she had mentioned that she was going to go to this belated birthday party. in pontiac. she was supposed to meet art at the dairy queen the next day, sunday. how d she talk about this person, art? she was just very, you know, very friendly with them. that was pretty much it. did she talk to this art at
the initial strategy was to deal with him as though it were a gift, that everyone in that interview room knew ream had something to do with cindy s disappearance and now was the time to explain it all. if you could put closure to this thing right now today. and help a family out. you think about it right now, you need some paper, i ll get you some paper you can write it down. i m not going to write it down. why not? my spelling s not that good. in that first interview, ream controlled the game, just as the psychological detectives had feared. mac suggested he could do himself some good by giving up the location of cindy s body. i can t make any promises, but the prosecutors, do the judges listen to me? of course they do. then the accusations took a harder edge. you ve got information that will tell me where this girl is, and you re not saying nothing. and i just think that s bull [ bleep ]. he just sits there, doesn t deny it, doesn t refute it,