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And i go -- and she goes, no, the piece of paper here. >> the torn paper was an old direct mail sales coupon for a construction glass on one side and on the other, a "have you seen me notice" for cindy zarzycki, with her picture and a 1-800 call line for leads. >> were ecstatic. were sitting there, why would this guy have this on his property? >> maybe because his son was involved and it was the girlfriend and maybe the son had put it in there. >> we were thinking the same way. were going, man t...

>> seriously flawed and botched from the get-go. >> now two decades later, mac asked theresa to come down to the eastpointe p.d. and go over her story yet again. this time it was a different experience. >> i knew right away walking in there that he was listening to what i was saying. very intently. >> the story that the two friends told had for some reason never made it into the police files. it had to do with a surprise birthday party for scott and a planned meeting at the dairy queen. cindy ha...

>> hed mapped out a place where he used to keep bees. >> how large is the area? that you actually dug out for her? >> did you go pretty deep? >> probably four feet. >> even if he was telling the truth, locating cindys body would be extremely difficult. it had been 22 years, shed been buried by a river known for flooding its banks. maybe her bones had carried downstream. even though mac had promised her father, maybe poor cindy was just destined to remain missing. coming up, a dramatic journey,...

>> mac, the father of three daughters and a son, asked the couple to understand his situation. >> i said, listen, i said, im going to do everything i can, but im kind of limited to what i can do, because of my workload now. linda was great. she even said ill do anything. ive got secretarial skills, i can help you file, type up things, do this and do that, just so i could spend more time dealing with her familys case. >> linda zarzycki, the stepmother, would go to the eastpointe police station on...

Officers. >> he was actually even joking a lot with us on the way home. yelling at the truckers for not driving well and laughing with us. >> jen may have been the one in the car intrigued most by psychology and the criminal mind, but it was mac who had the idea for the head game they were about to play on art ream. theyd make a stop before the police station at the cemetery where reams son, scott, had been buried 13 years before. mac told his partner to pull over at a flower shop, he bought a d...

Art, thats the problem here. thats the whole problem of this whole investigation. >> the initial strategy was to deal with him as though it were a gift, that everyone in that interview room knew ream had something to do with cindys disappearance and now was the time to explain it all. >> if you could put closure to this thing right now today. and help a family out. you think about it right now, you need some paper, ill get you some paper you can write it down. >> im not going to write it down. >...

Interviewed both cathy and theresa. i said, what was the last time you two even talked? thinking they might have concocted some story. and they said, we havent. i havent talked to her since cindy disappeared. and i go, really? and she goes, yeah. and they told me almost identical stories. >> do you believe their stories? >> oh, absolutely. >> mac and jens investigation was finally gaining traction. coming up -- a search of art reams one-time warehouse and a big discovery. >> she goes, oh, my g...

>> the first meeting he has with art doesnt go very well. >> so macs boss suggested a new ploy to sneak inside the mind of a killer. take away his control with some psychological jujitsu. drill into realms head that he doesnt matter anymore. no one cares about his aimless ramblings, he was yesterdays news. >> mac and i talked about it, macs office is next to mine, so we talked about this case daily for years. and as he was filling me in on the details, i said, mac, i think you need to take a dif...

Firm in chicago where mac had taken courses on how to interrogate criminals. immediately, the young intern was fascinated by cindys case file. she picked it off her boss desk when he wasnt looking. >> ive since admitted it to my boss, i read the file, and it really was contagious. i took that file home with me almost every single night and just kept rereading it. >> jen leibow, was at the time, an undergrad studying for a communications degree. she quickly became obsessed with suburban detroit t...

On his desk back in 1995. >> mac pulls it off beautifully, and it was almost like someone hit art in the jaw with a right cross because he didnt see it coming, totally got him off guard. and i think -- >> he stews on it and a week later, come on back, im going to give you a map, huh? >> thats exactly what happened. i think mac was masterful in what he did and it worked out better than we could have hoped. it didnt take long and i think he realized that he didnt hold the trump card anymore, he wa...