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Just yes or no. are we putting children in cage? >> to my knowledge, cbp never purposely put a child in a cage if you mean a case like this. >> purposely or whatever, are we putting children in cages as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that youve been at some of the areas -- >> ive seen the cages. i want you to admit that the cages exist. >> sir, theyre not cages. >> welcome back to "am joy." homeland security secretary kiersten nielsen refused to call a cage a...

Administrations stance that this is truly an emergency at the border. they threw out some numbers to justify that claim saying if the numbers continue at their current pace, that the number of illegal immigrants crossing could reach close to 1 million by the end of the year. now, that number in itself would not be record-breaking since there were more than 1 million immigrants that came across in the year 2006. but democrats continued to hammer secretary nielsen on trump administration policies....

In cages? >> to my knowledge, cbp never purposely put a child in a cage in you mean a cage like this. >> purposely or whatever, are we putting children in cages as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that youve been at. some of the areas -- >> ive seen the cages. i just want you to admit that the cages exist. >> sir, theyre not cages. >> what are they? >> areas of the border facility that are carved out for the safety and protection of those who remain there while...

Honest about the policy thats in place and, frankly, taking responsibility for the outcome, whatever it may be. whether you agree with it or not. now today, kirstjen nielsen, yet again, did not take responsibility. to begin with, she played word games over the first visual manifestation of the program, the detention facilities, the human holding pens along the border. >> are we still putting children in cages? >> to my knowledge, cbp never purposely put a child in a cage in you mean a cage like ...

We have our photo of people of color. >> laura: very dramatic when he whispers. the democrats stick to one, may be two notes and they are always off key. >> for the record, madam secretary, are we still using cages for children? >> sir, we dont use cages for children. in the border facilities event two, they were not made to detain children. to my knowledge, they never purposely put a child in the cage. >> purposely or whatever, are we putting children in cages of today? >> children are processe...

>> are we putting children in cages, as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that youve been at, some of them -- >> and ive seen the cages. i just want you to admit that the cages exist. >> sir, theyre not cages. >> the senate is expected to vote against the presidents national emergency declaration as early as next week. the house already has. the president is expected to veto it if it reaches his desk. in the meantime, theres still much more ahead on "world new...

In a cage. >> purposefully or whatever, are we putting children in cages, as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that youve been at. some of the areas -- >> and ive seen the cages. i want you to admit that the cages exist. >> sir, theyre not cages. >> were you aware that the zero-tolerance policy would lead to minors being separated from their parents, yes or no? >> as we increased consequences for those who break the law -- >> i have such limited time, madame sec...

She never answers a yes or no question with a yes or a no, and i think thats because if she did, she would have to say what we all know. that her departments treatment of migrant children, the policy of ripping those children from their parents is indefensible. despite her evasiveness and her previous lies on the subject, and there have been many, democrats still did their best to rtry to pin her down today. >> are we still using cages for children? >> sir, we dont use cages for children. >> mad...

Putting children in cages? >> to my knowledge, cbp never purposely put a child in a cage, if you mean a cage like this. >> purposely or whatever, are we putting children in cages as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that youve been at, some of -- >> and ive seen the cages. i just want you to admit that the cages exist. >> sir, theyre not cages. >> what is a chain link fence enclosed in a chamber on a concrete floor represent to you? is that a cage? >> its a dete...

Case? >> to my knowledge a child nerve purposely was put in a cage. >> purposely or whatever, are we putting children in case as of today? >> children are processed at the border facility stations that youve been at, some of -- >> i want you to admit that the case exist. >> sir, they are not case. >> what are they? >> areas of the border facility that are carved out for the safety and protection of those who remain there while they are being processed. >> so what did you do? i one its complicate...