of difference for sky news australia. you re definitely looking for a point of difference for gb news, up against sky news, bbc news and talktv now. andrew neil has subsequently said of his involvement, his mistake was putting his name on the tin without understanding what would be inside it. what did you want this network to be when you sat down with him, when you sat down with others? what was the plan? the plan has never changed. and in fact, i think that when andrew made that comment, it was more probably around the fact that he found the start up environment difficult rather than there was. there was no shift or no leap to any direction left, right, up, down, whatever. what we are delivering today is exactly what we promised right from the start broad, opinion based programming where we talk about things that often are not talked about in the broader media landscape. but if i look at the programming that you re putting out and the subjects you re discussing, from the royal fam
there are many people journalists, producers working on the output as it goes on. and we re going to consider what s definitely been a tumultuous 12 months. i m joined by angelos frangopoulos, the ceo of gb news. thanks for being with us. thank you very much for having me, ros, and welcome to gb news. you re still going? we are going strong. in fact, it s been a tumultuous start, but i have to say it s been an exhilarating journey for the entire team and it has been something that really has been very typical of a start up, i think, particularly in the early days. tumultuous. there were probably other words being used as well. were there moments in that first week, that first month, where you thought, maybe this isn t going to hang together ? not at all, not at all. very typical of a start up that some things go right, some things go wrong, some people come through, some people don t. and the reality is that you almost need to go through some of that pain although admittedly,
what did you want this network to be when you sat down with him, when you sat down with others? what was the plan? the plan has never changed. and in fact, i think that when andrew made that comment, it was more probably around the fact that he found the start up environment difficult rather than there was. there was no shift or no leap to any direction left, right, up, down, whatever. what we are delivering today is exactly what we promised right from the start broad, opinion based programming where we talk about things that often are not talked about in the broader media landscape. but if i look at the programming that you re putting out and the subjects you re discussing, from the royal family to immigration to cancel culture, this is hardly the only place i can go to get those things. yeah, i think that they re probably the only place you can get those things in a television environment, certainly. you have a breadth of subject matter and viewpoints that exist in print
the necessary facts attached. i mean, the suggestion that there s some sort of agenda is absolutely wrong. so, that is fact. now, let s talk about where you ve got to because, as you rightly say, the launch is a while back now, 12 months. from the start, you were always clear that tv ratings were not the only metric of success. you were very open about your digital ambitions. two things i d like to understand there. one was your definition of success in the digital arena. and then how do you make money off it? those are good questions! so the fundamentals of gb news as a business is that it is a digital business at its core that has a tv station and a radio station attached to it, so it s kind of the opposite to the traditional establishment media landscape. from a digital sense, we have products that. we tell stories in different ways to suit different demographics.
the facts are checked, and they do go through a process. and if we get something wrong, we say we ve got it wrong, just like any good journalism business. well, let s take a couple of examples on that. 0n the 30th of may on michelle dewberry s programme, you had a guest talking about climate change who said that sea levels weren t really rising sea levels are rising, the facts are are out there and yet you didn t have a scientist on with that guest to correct it. or we could take mark steyn, another of your presenters. he s in the evening. michelle dewberry s a little bit earlier on. full fact, the fact checking operation, found that he was wrong to state that a covid booster increases your chances of hospitalisation and death. is it a concern to you that these kind of statements which aren t true are getting through the net? well, i think it s very important to remember that we answer to a regulator, not to full fact. full fact is not the regulator. sure.