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There, at all, indicated -- >> what if he did get information from the russians, what if they did have nefarious, damaging information on hillary clinton, dirt as they promised him, and he took it and used it. after all donald trump himself said its normal to take meetings like this. what about the argument then, congressman that many will make and have been making already that the republicans are putting party over country with this. this was an attack, russians attacked democracy, they attacke...

When we disagree, but the fact that his hand was on the bible, there was a parade route of people with "impeach him" signs. in trump country, russia scandal doesnt resonate. there are critics and skeptics out there that say this is why remembers are not going after the president when they would under normal circumstances. theyre just afraid of trumps base. >> we cant change the fact pattern of what took place here. there are people who are opposition to the president who want to see as a resul...

Was the hillary clinton campaign. it was the dnc. >> i said that. >> just a minute. just a minute, though, because youre talking about the ukrainian government versus the russian government. that in itself is a distinction. the intelligence community also has talked about the russian, specifically, having an effort, a coordinated, sophisticated effort to hack the american election system. thats another point. let me follow up with the fact that clinton is not president right now. donald trump is...

About clinton. theres a lot of dots out there. >> yes. absolutely. the context is important. and to what you were saying before about russia and the lack of surprise, remember theres a history of russia business with the trump organization. i know donald trump has denied some of that history, but donald trump jr.s quotes about it, the relationship with the miss universe pageant, people having real estate deals here in the russian oligarch community through trump, so its not as if theyve never do...

Integrity. >> eric: they are saying that he is presumed innocent under the constitution. wendy, the defense argument, fantasy side is nothing in reality that he carried out. >> sometimes we look at -- and she made some good points. wheres the balance? its evidence and predisposition. those i think they give us a good idea as to what who are garlic at the sites and carry out these fantasies. very dangerous. what this meant basically dead was he was doing that research, but remember, all of the co...

Assigned to to be the lone wolf. now, the initial reportings as to, you know, this is not eye ses, and again, the fact pattern is such that if one -- this is not isis, and again, the fact pattern is such that if this is mass casualties, the similarities begin to depart. for example, we have learned now that it seems likely that one of the perpetrators was taken alive in custody, and that is not something that tends to happen with the previous attacks. so even though there is a vehicle connection...

So if you get the information out there that mueller is investigating the president, that makes it much harder for the president to go ahead and do that. >> doesnt it, though, seem really obviously, though. given the fact pattern, that mueller had to be investigating the president for obstruction of justice because it would be negligent not to. you have bread comes everywhere -- >> by the way, i thought that was a very -- an investigation -- you want to investigate something doesnt mean its a fo...

Limits here. the corruption statute, we have seen other prosecutors reach hard with, you think its less likely? >> i think less likely well see honest services. thats typically used with local state or government officials dipping out of programs that are funded by the federal government. much more likely here, if that sort of a fact pattern develops, will be the federal bribery statute. that, of course, would be if we find at the end of the day evidence of a quid pro quo. cynthia makes a great ...

Labor day. this wont be a report that would be damning to the president. might make him look improper and all that, but not nixonian. >> based on what we now know -- we dont know everything that mueller has. based on what we know now, theres no obstruction case. its in the eyes of the beholder. its a great point you made. its always in the eyes of the beholder. thats why you have to show a high level of intent. its always in the eyes of the beholder. you have to have a fact pattern and they dont...

>> what do you make -- this washington post report, its one thing obviously comey was fired. for him to go to coats to try to get to comey. >> you have this -- as carl is pointing out. you have a fact pattern. he went to coats. he went to yocomey to try to influence the investigation. he ended up firing him to influence the investigation. trump was obsessed with this investigation for some reason. just to add one more thing, he asked comey to lay off of michael flynn as national security adviser...