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it done. so, the democrats, i think, are being the adults in the room. they are going to just watch this happen. but what is really crazy and should be a bit alarming here is what happens after this. at some point, there will be a speaker, right? but what today told me is that this house is not headed toward raising the debt limit. and that is a very disastrous outcome. so, that is what alarmed me. okay. so, i had the same worry, substantively. that s the biggest thing i m worried about, the debt ceiling, and some sort of kamikaze mission that ends up in something awful, like some sort of forced posterity, like we had back in 2011, which was incredibly misery inducing for millions of americans. yeah, for years. for years really, and, i think, provided the path of donald trump winning. matt, what does this mean, substantively, for the operation of the house, from where you sit? well, we are seeing that they can t govern. they can t get past this first stage. even if you get pa
interests to not plunge the country into economic chaos by refusing to raise the debt limit, then he will raise the debt limit, air go, raise the debt ceiling. he might be induced to pass a budget to not shut down the government. and that kind of willingness to make even the most minimal compromises is so unacceptable to the party that has been kind of trained by donald trump, not just by train recruited into the party to see any willingness to compromise as treasonous. to your point, there is a substantive point here too, which is an interesting one, but it s not developed. it s his critique of the kind of k street lobbyist republican establishment, which is a totally legitimate deal, let s be clear, right? these people are creatures of the k street corporate lobbyist and it will give them what they want but that s not what our people want. but the question is what do you that is the end zone has. we are a blue collar party, right? we are a party of blue collar and rural and
and that is kind of what we saw today. and even though it is a small wing of the party, going into today, kevin mccarthy clearly did not know if he had the votes. he did not have the votes. and this is supposed to be the easy day, right? this is the day when you come back from college and you see old friends and you are buying your books. and you already know who is going to be the speaker. that is why this has not happened for 100 years. and instead, they could not get it done. so, the democrats, i think, are being the adults in the room. they are going to just watch this happen. but what is really crazy and should be a bit alarming here is what happens after this. at some point, there will be a speaker, right? but what today told me is that this house is not headed toward raising the debt limit. and that is a very disastrous outcome. so, that is what alarmed me. okay. so, i had the same worry, substantively. that s the biggest thing i m worried about, the debt ceiling, and some sor
as you said, the ideological stakes are very hard to discern. but i think that some of them actually correctly discern the same thing that you said about elise stefanik is also true of kevin mccarthy, right? where you could not identify a single thing that he believes in except the fact that he should be speaker of the house. and so i think that they are probably right in thinking that, if he sees it in his political interests to not plunge the country into economic chaos by refusing to raise the debt limit, then he will raise the debt limit, air go, raise the debt ceiling. he might be induced to pass a budget to not shut down the government. and that kind of willingness to make even the most minimal compromises is so unacceptable to the party that has been kind of trained by donald trump, not just by donald trump, recruited into the party to see any willingness to compromise as treasonous. to your point, there is a substantive point here too, which is an interesting one, but it s
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