i m trying to bring economic growth of the country and democrats are more interested in trying to hurt me politically and that is what s going on. it was faithless electors, eliminating the electoral college, russia, collusion, obstruction, if it s not ukraine at something else. clearly the whole game is trying to hurt president trump politically. melissa: i think we are talking about the argument each side will make. one thing that s clear, they ve been sitting there ready to go for a while and that s something that would help a lot of different people. nancy pelosi and the democrats get the blame for that right n now. katie: nancy pelosi and chuck schumer are on the record saying we need a replacement to help out the labor voters we claim to be supporting so that s on them. but i want to get back to the house judiciary committee hearing they ve announced and the substance of that, jerry nadler in his letter said they
by doing that, he s threatening our democracy. what i find infuriating about what she said there, democrats are the ones who are threatening our democracy by casting doubt on the legitimacy of president trump. they are the ones were undermining our faith in institutions, particularly the electoral process. remember, it was democrats, nancy pelosi s daughter who was leading the charge in 2016 encouraging faithless electors. it s been democrats who boycotted president trump s inauguration saying he is not a legitimate president, saying he was a russian stooge. we have been lied to about the russia collusion narrative amount democrats want to move forward with an impeachment process offending the 2016 election and 63 million american votes.ri they are the ones that are threatening our democracy. tucker: what is so weird is hillary clinton have the election stolen from her.ha that s the official position of the democratic party.
december 5th with an op-ped by a texas elector planning to defect from donald trump. the next day the paper explored how would the electoral college dump donald trump and published a letter to the editor entitled a plea to the electors: vote your conscience. explained why gop electoral college members can vote against trump. i think a lot of this is the press. we love a narrative of tension, and the idea that somehow this could get thrown open at the last minute, while very titillating, and a great story, is just not going to happen. reporter: when it was all over with more faithless electors elect ers deserting hillary clinton, the paper said it settles donald trump s victory but little else. an abuse of the american vote. reporter: it was the same with green party nominee jill stein whose candidacy garnered all of 37 seconds on the broadcast network eegs evening shows. the clock is ticking. reporter: but whose longshot recall effort drew 12 times as
that was the most faithless electors deserting someone. they deserted hillary clinton, since 1872. we re back with the panel. charles? justice, she should set the indoor record for the most faithless electors. look, it was a joke from the beginning. what we heard in the first sound bite, it is our responsibility to stop a man who could be a demagogue. the fact is that s why you have elections. that s why you have a year and half of campaigns. that s why you have one primary after another. and in the end, you count up the delegates and get a nominee. in the end, you count up the votes and you get a winner. that s how it s done. you don t stop them after the game. after the game, the score is determined. i mean, this is simple. i think it was just a lull in the transition, most of the big cabinet slots had been
have no comprehension. some 28 states have those laws against so-called faithless electors. you said you received 90,000 e-mails. that s even more than we get here at cnn. what do they say? what does the average e-mail say? basically, they say that i should be looking to not vote for trump because of russian intervention and, you know, facebook postings and, hey, the problem with hillary clinton is she had no message. and she has very bad character. and i mean, from my perspective, i go back to the late 60s, early 70s when he was affiliated with the communist who wrote the book, rules for radicals. let me ask you this. i don t think there s any question that over the last 200 years, that electors don t go faithless by and large. but i m curious, as an elector yourself right now, what s your reading of the constitution and the 12th amendment, where it s