numbers of them every day on the phone, they say they want the world to know the truth about what they are seeing about what they are going through. many want outside help, but they don t want others to liberate them. we hear that time and time again. they want to liberate themselves. i spoke with another protester and he told me this revolution has to belong to the people fighting for it. one thing i m happy about right now is that we are we are taking things into our own hands. i mean, unlike with all due respect to the iraqis, somebody came in to give them democracy. you know, this way this is like we earned it. hopefully when we do get it that s what you want, you want democracy? yes. and we want to earn it by ourselves. they want to earn it. another voice telling the story from tripoli. 168 others are beginning to tell their own stories from malta tonight. americans who finally made it
with the opposition closing in, gadhafi appears to be digging in. one american evacuee told cnn he saw carnage in tripoli. he said the army was using automatic rifles against little kids that were carrying nothing more than pebbles. little kids, he said. i want to play again what gadhafi said today in tripoli s green square. listen. translator: we are prepared to break any aggression by the people, the armed people and the time will come when all the ammunition warehouses will be open for the people to defend the country. how brutal will the end game get and what will it take to stop gadhafi? i spoke with bob bear, intelligence columnist and the author of the company we keep. he s a former cia officer. and also i spoke with professor assad, a former gadhafi aide and now a history professor at western connecticut sate university. in the late 70s, he took part in a plot to overthrow gadhafi. the plot was discovered and the
and they didn t say specifically, but they said it is substantial sums by any account. fouad, the sanctions make any difference whatsoever to what happened in tripoli? no, we ve seen this movie before about the sanctions. gadhafi endured a generation, 15 years or so of sanctions. we also have another case of sanctions, which our viewers will remember very well, which is saddam hussein, who endured sanctions from 1991 to 2003, when president george bush decapitated his regime. the sanctions never worked. anyone with money, anyone with a huge amount of money as gadhafi does, can break these sanctions, can bust them with great ease. and one thing we know about the sanctions, to pass sanctions, if you come to the security council and do a round of sanctions in the security council, there you need the russians and the chinese. the only kinds of resolutions and provisions that would pass in the united nations are really mild.
how much control do they have over the oil in the east in anti-gadhafi territory now? well, in the eastern part of the country, they have complete control over that oil. and there is a lot of pressure to completely cut it off. but i spoke with somebody in the committee that runs benghazi, and they said that just to strangle just to cut off the flow of funds to the government of tripoli, they would be more than happy to completely cut it off. but technically, it s a problem. some of these pipelines are so old, that if you stop pumping, they quickly become blocked with wax from the residue of the oil. so they have to maintain a certain level of production. but our understanding is that the workers in those oil fields and the engineers along the pipeline are fully in support of the anti-gadhafi forces. anderson? jill, what are you hearing about the next steps in terms of the administration? are there next steps?
there is also new video coming in by the hour, just now we discovered some footage. we don t know the precise location, but we do know it was taken today, just as the person who took it was hit. [ gunfire ] [ screams ] we don t know what happened to the person taking those images. we have no reliable casualty figures either from that incident or many others across tripoli. the terrible truth is we simply do not know and we do not know what happens to the people in these video clips. to the badly wounded protesters like this man here. or elsewhere to this injured mercenary, this is a remarkable moment, though. you see a mercenary apparently a foreigner in camouflage, the man on top of him, apparently shielding him, covering him with his body. he and a small circle of