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>> jim tillman, i know you have to run, but the last information i think you said grasping at straws, did you not say that? >> yes, i did say that and mean it tonight even more. >> all right, when we come back, the australian prime minister says they are very confident they know the position of the black box within some kilometerinkilomete kilometers, meanwhile, they say the fifth ping is not related to an underwater beacon. i always say be the man with the plan

That when this ping starts radiating out it hits the temperature layer and then it can come back down. so youve got these things. so now youre dragging your pinger through here, the tpl, and from here to here, maybe seven minutes. from here to here, maybe its five minutes. >> i see. >> okay. >> okay. >> so you may not necessarily be -- i got a lot of lines going up there. >> you do. youre going crazy. i dont know what to do with you. let me ask you about, how does the fifth ping, the fifth ping ...

Area because any chance of hearing the ping, you want it to be as pristine and quiet so nothing interferes with that. >> the fact that they heard a fifth ping, a false alarm, the fact that they havent heard any since the first four, that would reinforce the notion that the batteries are most likely dead? >> its also important that the false positive, the sonobuoy may have had a hit, thats fairly common in sonar work. you look at the accumulation of evidence and how things line up. they are doing...

Explain. >> this is a problem for the interception of a criminal investigation once its on the way. a criminal investigation does not proceed in a straight line. it mir ree an ders. if you want to inspect the investigation and i understand why the media and relatives want to do that. what you have to be prepared for is the changes of a line. that happens in any criminal investigation. why wouldnt it happen in this one? >> is there any reason to believe that passengers should be under suspicion? ...

Fifth prince, deekted it by another. youre not surprised that the fifth ping, detected by another means, would turn out to be false? >> no, that one was -- get that one out of the mix. >> get rid of that one right away. so the big search is still on the surface. they havent found any debris, anything from the cabin or any place else. but theyre searching an area roughly, what, they say the side of new hampshire and vermont combined. but the search under water is tiny compared to that. thats wher...

The captain and co-pilot, but as of right now, authorities were speaking with, sources saying theyre still nothing too suspicious jumping out at them. theyre still trying to put everything into context. this investigation continues here in the u.s. and elsewhere. wolf? >> take another look at those hard drives which is smart. thanks very much, pamela, for that. lets go to perth, australia, right now, the base of the search operation. michael holmes is on the scene for us. whats the latest ther...

Malaysians will be on the ship, they will be there but this is going to the australians because they can look at it within six or eight hours. the americans and the malaysians will be there. the malaysians will make announcement but -- >> do the australians have experience dealing with a black box that the ntsb, the u.s. has? >> they are very similar. they have the same kind of equipment. they cross-train. i have full confidence that they can take the lead and the americans will be there with th...

Its dark down there. if its in deep sit, its going to be a tough task. wolf. >> the fifth ping we talked about so much over the last 24 hours, that now seems to be not something coming from one of those two black boxes, something else, right? >> yes, that of course the first four pings came from the ocean shield vessel towing that u.s. navy ping locator. this other thought to be ping or possible ping came from sonobuoys dropped from aircraft, dropped down about 1,000 feet, and listen in as well....

They cast shadows. the sound waves cast shadows on things that the waves bounce off of. so you need somebody to kind of interme interpret the pictures that result from the side scan sonar to see if they identify anything manmade. then theres the whole fact they dont really know whats down there so, you know, like what was being said, you have to worry about tangling the bluefin-21 into something, some wreckage or some kind of features on the bottom, and if you lose that, then youve lost a whole ...

Thats why it only runs for two hours. it captures an event which caused a problem and either the aircraft landed safely or it crashed and it helps investigators figure out what caused the event. now, the normal procedure is if something goes wrong, you follow your checklist and you land the aircraft and then as soon as everything is done, you pull the circuit breaker to shut off that recording so it doesnt record over the event data. and evidently what happened was the air crew in the malaysia 7...