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Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 23:27:00

presidential candidate, ron desantis. his office has pushed a vague law that mandates school books be, quote, age appropriate and there be review by a government media specialist. now, like any broadly described policy, this could go any number of ways, but the way they re doing it looks like censorship with images like this circling online, teachers have to move or wrap up bookshelves or face felony charges that don t fit desantis s view of appropriate. considering the 16th singt, fig leaves placed on michelangelo s david to cover what the catholic church had deemed by its own arbitrary or religious views was immodest. centuries later attorney general ashcroft faced quite the backlash because at the doj where they have a statue of lady justice that is semi-nude, they put in curtains to cover the

Transcripts for MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240604 19:11:00

the debt ceiling was raised. so it did back down in 2011 for all of those who think they didn t, they raised a construct for this over and over again. they choose this in the white house dhechlt not have this fight when a republican was in the white house. would very that as evidence. so they do this when the other party controls the white house. and they re not honest about that. but it s obvious to anybody with a half a brain that s what is going on though. are there fig leaves that the white house may be willing to give this to the republicans to get this done faster and smoother and less messy, susan? sure, and the point now, they won t negotiate, at the end of the day, it is entirely possible they will have talks with republicans if and when the republicans have a unified position. they ve done things in the past, that rather than raise the debt limit, they suspended the debt limit and they agreed to that deal when john boehner was

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 03:52:00

to abandon the nato objective so, that surely is wishful thinking? i think he kind of changed his mind back towards the ukrainian constitution, which foresees the strategic goal to become a nato member, and from my perspective, i don t see any other security guarantee, neitherfor ukraine nor basically for nato, besides ukrainejoining nato, and that will make both actors, both ukraine and nato, much stronger, from my perspective, and that s the only way, i don t believe in any fig leaves, as budapest memorandums or other arrangements that are being discussed at this particular moment. if you say that actually ukraine is intent on nato membership, itjust makes me feel that in the end what we have is an existential conflict with vladimir putin, which can only end in one or two ways, either he wins

Transcripts for BBCNEWS HARDtalk 20240604 03:52:00

and so, that surely is wishful thinking? i think he kind of changed his mind back towards the ukrainian constitution, which foresees the strategic goal to become a nato member, and from my perspective, i don t see any other security guarantee, neither for ukraine nor basically for nato, besides ukrainejoining nato, and that will make both actors, both ukraine and nato, much stronger, from my perspective, and that s the only way, i don t believe in any fig leaves, as budapest memorandums or other arrangements that will be discussed at this particular moment. if you say that actually ukraine is intent on nato membership, itjust makes me feel that in the end what we have

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