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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130919:00:10:00

and not let it go otherwise. and if they decide that they want to shut down the government, with this position, then that is going to be on their backs. but i ll tell you what. i just came back from the field of doing a lot of town halls. and people are awfully glad for the insurance bill of rights that is now giving them a fair shake for health care. and oregon is putting out ads for the obama care exchanges, well put them up. senator murphy, who is instrumental on the draw. if you were happy about that, senator jeff murkley played a big role in that. thank you so much. all right, congressman a, you and i do not agree on the substance here. so we ll stipulate that and say we will not solve that in the news segment. so i just want to talk strategy here, okay? you guys are going to pass a continuing resolution that

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130919:03:11:00

arrival in the senate? what happens here? it depends, one of the best things that chris says and i happen to agree with him, is what it does is move to the senate which is where the battle needs to take place. we re house supporters of what rand paul and lee are trying to do on the house floor. if it was just up to the house we would have solved the obama care issue a long time ago, so the battle needs to be over. you re already doing the thing the house republicans are doing already. which is shift the blame to the senate, which is likely to be a failure. i see people pointing fingers because everybody knows the results of the fight. chris, that is not entirely true. there is an idea here that we are the house, they are the senate. you make it sound as if we can magically wave a wand here and do something in the senate that is automatically going to pass. this is how the system works,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130919:00:07:00

better to get it out of the system now. but what i think will happen is they have a big battle. they will not succeepnz we all know they re not going to end up getting rid of obama care. so then they re going to double down on this fight on the debt ceiling. because what happened, as you said, look, ted cruz went around the country. he got everybody worked up. all the far right folks. now it is going over in the senate. he is not going to be able to prevail, ted cruz. so then they re going to try to take this whole fight it is only going to make that fight worse, they will lose this and double down in the next fight. in fact, if you look at the plan that came out of the house republican caucus today, it was plan b, plan a was let s do this on the continuing resolution. but backup plan b, okay, if we don t succeed we ll take it to the debt ceiling. as you know, it is bad enough to be playing with government shutdown, but you re playing with the economic equivalent of

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130919:03:06:00

says all right, buddy, you get this. this is the ted cruz hilarious passive/aggressive statement. at this point, republicans must stand firm, hold their ground and continue to listen to the american people, as in sorry, bro, we can t get this done. to which john boehner says we trust the republicans in the senate will put up a fight worthy of the challenges that obama proposes. the fight over the continuing resolution, the budget shutdown, rather than a month when the full faith and credit is on the line. well, chris it would be better to get it out of the system now. but what i think will happen is they have a big battle. they will not succeed. we all know they re not going to end up getting rid of obama care. so then they re going to double down on this fight on the debt ceiling. because what happened, as you said, look, ted cruz went around the country. he got everybody worked up. all the far right folks. now it is going over in the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130919:03:01:00

and if we were to put obama care into the senate, we were risking shutting down the government. that is not our goal. in march, house speaker john boehner was making it clear shutting down the government to de-fund the president s health care law was not on his agenda. do you want to risk the full faith and credit of the united states government over obama care? that is a very tough argument to make. six months later, the speaker has reversed course. this week, the house will pass the c.r. that locks the sequester savings in and de-funds obama care. the question is, how did that conversion happen? after all, today s huge

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