house of representatives who have jumped into our present day and we believe into ou history in a way that we haven t seen, as he pointed out, since martin luther king was 2 years old, when he came to prominence as a civil rights leader it is what feels like a terrible moment for the country, but out of it there are thes absolute lightning sparks of hope in the form of those thre lawmakers who have bee unbelievably strong an principled, and just brilliantly the struggle, if you will a reason for hope in the darkness, i guess. one of those sparks of hope representative justin joins us gonna join us tonight. and so very glad to have reverend warnock kind of leading into that. yes, what a ticket. thank, you alex on this day, this very day, 60 years ago, the reverend dr martin luther king junior wa arrested along with 55 other and was jailed and birmingham, alabama. the notorious segregationist will conor ordered the arres of dr. martin luther king on april 12th, 1963, fo
asked what s the differenc between a protestant and a catholic what s the difference between protestant and catholic? she didn t grow up thinking in sectarian divides. joining us now, finnega o toole, columnist and write for the irish times. he is the author of the ne york times bestselling book we don t know ourselves, personal history of modern ireland. fintan o toole, for us it pretty surprising that a kid could now grew up in belfast and get all the way to hig school before wondering what s the difference between a protestant and catholic. and when i heard that question today i thought, oh, there is question, there is a questio for o toole tonight. let s see if it explained that one to america [laughter well, you know, lawrence, it i wonderful to think that that might be a question. because of course, for so long these identities were just s tribally opposed, that eac side thought of itself as bein