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right? i feel like that's the opening secret on capitol hill. you were never going to get bob good on board or the freedom caucus. >> we've heard some say this is jon's third strike. they're upset about how he handled appropriations and fisa. they're kind of arguing the last straw. that being said, that i didn't pull the trigger to try to out him. >> that's the question. when does that happen and when does the threat expire? at what point do you call their bluff? >> i think to some extent he's in a position where he has to call their bluff. marjorie taylor greene, we heard her say yesterday she's not backing down from this. mike massey said this is like a john boehner thing where he gets powered out. i talked to andy biggs on saturday. he said, i don't really see the point of this, hopping on board.
in the things that you want to get done i can't get done. he did it is on this couch like pete points out and lay out priorities that are different than what's happening in reality. >> what he'll say is everybody had a seat at the table so the far right that's mad at him they would input he say and change measures and sending them back to the senate or first time they have priorities, and little changes. knew qans to them that republicans wouldn't have had if he were not the speaker i've done what i can on these things we have to get stuff passed and get it done. he's also talked about listen he changed his position on some of these things he said once i saw the intel i sat down, with members of the intel committee, and community and got a different perspective on some of these things regarding fisa regarding ukraine. yes i'll admit i've changed my position a bit on that but he also says we have briefings that members did not come to so they can stangsd and criticize some of this stuff but if they didn't come and see what i saw, then it is tough for them to question
people even if all of this money that we spend on replenishing here ramping our military industrial complex here, we really can't make a dent in what ukraine says they need to actually win. he also argues that ukraine doesn't have enough humans they don't have enough men -- even given the that's going on there to fill the ranks of soldiers. so we'll debate that too with the senator this is morning about, you know, how do they explain we're sending over tens of billions more if there's no finish line. what is the finish line? >> shannon i want to move on a moment. will: this is the third thing for speak speaker omnibus spending bill there's the fisa bill and now there's this. where his right flank is like what's going on. like what -- why is it that you seem to be so out of debate with debates or this wing of the party what would the answer be? shannon is it what you said a min ago i've got a one vote majority and these -- these are priorities yet still
as mike mccall and other republicans have said in leadership positions, and fisa. donald trump does not like fisa. they tried to get in the way of continuing the fisa program despite the fact that they know that is how we stop foreign terrorists. it does look like mike johnson is the wall street journal editorial page. it looks like mike johnson has realized you can't negotiate with these people. you have to run them over. >> i think my johnson made the decision he is going to govern and i think that is very admiral decision. the question going forward of course is, what does this mean for the last several debates after this. you mentioned fisa. that is a great question. what is going to happen on that is totally they can get aid for ukraine in israel and taiwan across the finish line almost in the form of coalition government in terms of what we
backbencher but another thing being on the armed services committee where you get until briefings. when you get the first intel briefing, when my johnson gets the first intel briefing on what fisa is really about instead of what donald trump says it is about, you suddenly realize the terrorist threats, whether it is from isis or al- qaida or another foreign terrorist group. our best shot of stopping those are three things like fisa. >> and i don't think people realize, we always talk about the intelligence community like it is some kind of big group of folks somewhere. i think people think of spy movies and stuff. the vast majority of the people in the intelligence community are veterans or active military. they are hard-working smart