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>> you said its not unusual that staff does the work. >> thats not true. the fisa court has not been around for decades and decades. this is a process that a lot of us are uncomfortable with. >> thats a different conversation. >> if the fisa process is being corrupted by political appointees because the department of justice is what and the fbi is politicized. >> why dont you want to know. >> youre motte going to tell me. theres a toxic conclusion and im not going to know the basis no matter wha...

>> there is a gang of eight process. i was in the gang of eight, so was mike when he became chairman, allow us to see information that the rest of the committee cant, so i assume that was the process that was followed. weve done careful oversight over the fisa process for years. in fact, until about 1990, i was not in congress yet, but each fisa application was reviewed or at least shown to the house and senate communities. we remanded fisa in 2008 to set up section 702 and there is sophisticati...

They see this memo, a lot of people are going to react by saying, thats what it is? >> gloria, you have new reporting about the lead-up to this. >> there are people that are familiar with this process that are worried about exactly what youre saying which is this could be over-hyped and that thats probably why the white house will send it back to congress and let congress release it. that the process has been so messy that it may not be as clear-cut as the people who originally talked to the pre...

Reasonable guy. bring back this mike. >> without running for office -- >> but you have to have leadership, mr. rogers. we have to have the speaker of the house, who is the leader of the republican majority, in the house of representatives. you have to get him involved. he said earlier today he would like to see both of these memorandums, the democratic memorandum and the republican memorandum, released at the same time. they ignored that. we t they rejected that. they simply went ahead and relea...

Didnt release the two memos simultaneously? >> i do. i think im stronger than chris stewart was on the chairman. there is a process that this information has to go through. >> couldnt they have waited? >> they could have waited. >> another week or so? what would have been the difference if they released them both simultaneously next week at this time as opposed to releasing just this one? >> you got me there, wolf. it would have been inappropriate, i think, for them to vote and make members vote...

Tries to stop oversight of fisa abuses over and over again on that committee for partisan reasons. thats a fact. >> thats beside the point of what were talking about. were talking about whether or not in the application, in the renewal of a fisa warrant on a specific individual there was an abuse of process. thats what this is about. what theyre -- >> we think. >> -- thats what nunes has said publicly. what were really faced with is the reality they dont like the steele dossier and want to try t...

Have problems again because this does affect our civil liberties. >> back now with the panel. mike, if this is the way oversight is supposed to be done and executed, how come this is so extraordinarily rare that the only time that i mean anybody in the last couple hours ive been asking can think of is when democrats released over objection of republicans the torture memos? >> i think two reasons. first of all, we dont know. i think we need to see the memo before we can start answering questions....

Without giving us particulars about what you saw, would you say its a bombshell, would you say the public would react in a -- with outrage? i mean, how would you -- >> i think, my own personal opinion, is that people when they see this memo, a lot of people are going to react by saying, thats what it is? >> gloria, you have new reporting about the lead-up to this. >> there are people that are familiar with this process that are worried about exactly what youre saying which is this could be overh...

Own appointee as director of the fbi, when you have his justice department and you have his director of national intelligence all urging the president not to release this memo, then its more than a partisan scrum. its a national security concern. >> right, but thats why you would think democrats would want more oversight and, yet, schiff tries to stop oversight of fisa abuses over and over again on that committee for partisan reasons. and thats a fact. >> thats beside the point of what were talk...

There will be a memo from the democrats and a big public debate about it. >> it doesnt help our national interest to have that debate. if youre a foreign intelligence officer in the great -- in great britain or in france or australia or any place else and you think, well, im thinking about sharing information, but wait a second, maybe i shouldnt be sharing that information because this could be the end result of it. it gets put into a political -- i cant that word, political process, and, theref...