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Then we get the information from a man that turned state evidence and admitted he lied. semantics aside, he said one thing then and another thing now. is that accurate? >> yeah. but what youve seen over the course of sessions testimony, that hes been evasive. like what hes talking about today. saying he couldnt recall particular instances on the campaign until he remembered it when he saw news accounts. he remembered certain things just telling george papadopoulos that he shouldnt go and set up ...