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Your mother allowed you to be messy at home, creating projects, so, what were you making? you were a practical child? usually i was either constructing something out of materials such as papier mache, or i was painting. or i was sewing, one or the other. sewing is not so messy. the papier mache is quite messy. so, craft work, then? oh, we didnt call it that, dear. thats a new—fangled term. did you call it anything, or was itjust the stuff...? making stuff. yeah. and we had the full run of the ...

Then you wont get lost. your mother allowed you to be messy at home, creating projects, so, what were you making? you were a practical child? usually i was either constructing something out of materials such as papier mache, or i was painting. hmm. or i was sewing, one or the other. sewing is not so messy. the papier mache is quite messy. so, craft work, then? oh, we didnt call it that, dear. thats a new—fangled term. did you call it anything, or was itjust the stuff...? making stuff. yeah. an...

Mache, or i was painting. hmm. or i was sewing, one or the other. sewing is not so messy. the papier mache is quite messy. so, craft work, then? oh, we didnt call it that, dear. thats a new—fangled term. did you call it anything, or was itjust the stuff...? making stuff. yeah. and we had the full...the full run of the tool set, you know. that was very handy. a few years later, when you self—published your first book... yes. a book of poetry, double persephone, um... a very limited run, and i...