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Listening to former president poroshenko, the strategy is still to take kyiv and to try and install a puppet government, a government that will listen to russia and do its bidding. thats been his goal all along. its really to subdue ukraine and to bring it back into the russian fold. >> that clearly is the objective. i mean, you listen to former president poroshenko, i mean, unbelievable strong words, right, about just really staying there to try to protect the country. you have to rise above yo...

Fold that would be important to us. and he is changing the narrative into whether or not thats a reasonable thing to agree to or not to agree to when, in fact, all of this other stuff is unaddressed. russia in crimea is unaddressed. russia in georgia remains unaddressed. russias naked expansionism remains unaddressed. >> you said it better than i did. thats exactly right. he wants to change the channel to focus on this fictitious threat of ukraine joining nato. nato never attacked soviet union o...

Say nothing of moral logic would tell you that youre probably not going to seduce a country back into the fold by dropping missiles on it, by bombing it. history is full of examples of this kind of quote-unquote seduction through military means. and it -- and it fails. its quite likely that if vladimir putin wants to, his armed forces can take kyiv, can arrest zelenskyy and install a puppet government. but then what? but then what? how long does that last? how expensive is that? what do russians...

Their political orientation more towards europe, more towards nato over the last eight years. and now it feels that putin is saying, not so fast, you dont get to go away. you dont get to deny that previous history, you come right back into the fold. so, there is this feeling that russia wont let them out of this relationship and move on. and here where i am very specifically, is theres so much of a difference. i am very far east, im close to the russian border, close to the separatist areas, and...

Its maddening watching putin hold these cards. it feels like hes in charge, holding us all hostage, but not really. hes operating from a position of severe weakness, having failed to coax ukraine back into his orbit, a potentially disastrous invasion is his last resort. do you agree with that? >> yes and no. i think, you know, hes also weakening his position vis-a-vis ukraine every day that he does this. i talked to a friend in moscow who said, you know, if ukraine didnt have a national organizi...

Thousand to 5,000 american troops to eastern european countries with the potential to increase that number 10 fold if things deteriorated officials said. those 5,000 troops from the 82nd airborne division have already been deployed to poland where they are bracing for the worst. and prepping to process thousands of refugees who, im sure, biden will fly right here into america. but if biden increases their presence 10 fold, that means we may have as many as 50,000 troops in eastern europe on high...

Grows out of the barrel of a gun. >> i agree 100% and remember what putins goals are for ukraine, three fold. first, cause massive economic harm, so the threat of war means that theres a lot of capital flight and investors are wary of putting money in ukraine. his first goal. the second to destabilize ukraine politically. look at president zelenskys poll numbers, they are not that good right now, and thats a factor for russia in advance of the 23 parlimentary elections in ukraine, and the presid...

The world can come together in solidarity. thank you for bringing germany back into the fold of nato, they are finally going to put 2% of gdp against it like they agreed to back in 2014. just thank you for all of that and showing us that you really are a pariah and your nation is a pariah. all of his senior officers, his generals, ought to realize that. thats what youve done. hes brought the world together to show how despicable he has and how despicable his offered is in ukraine. you may not ha...

Really in his head but my sense is what he has said is ukraine. he wants ukraine. he wants to be the great russian leader who brings back ukraine into the russian world, into the russian empire, into the former soviet union space and nothing will do until he has full control over ukraine one way or the other. he tried, ali, as we know for a long time, the mince process through donetsk would give him this control. it didnt. it failed. the ukrainians pushed back hard. the germans and french were n...

Come right back. >> president biden: he wants to, in fact, reestablish the former soviet union. thats what this is about. and i think that his ambitions are completely contrary to the place where the rest of the world has arrived. >> harris: dont have a lot of time left with bill hemmer. what would that look like? >> he has a point. putins worst day in his life is 1989 when he looked at the former ussr and what it became. that argument goes the following issue. if he is successful in ukraine its...