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Out there? it seems to me implausible if youre a company that makes guns and you want to see something happening in congress right now, youre not going to make smur that opinion is known? >> it may seem plausible to but that is the case. in 2000 when we had our last serious round of gun control debate near the end of the clinton administration smith and wesson did that. they tried to step out, make basically a big compromise with the clinton administration. the nra opposed this. the company was ...

He will be inaugurated, we believe, on sunday. and the church moves forward with the overriding goal of spreading the word of god. reading the scriptures and bringing more people in the fold. it seems like here in rome tonight, a beautiful evening. >> kimberly: interesting background that you highlight that this is a man of the people, a man from italian immigrants so he has roots in italy as well, which should please those that wanted someone to get back to the papal roots of rome. representati...

Of how to make it better with any trials or tribulations inherited with any size or structure. one way to do it with the government if you will. other ways bring in an upsider. of course the over riding concern is they are able to spread the gospel and bring more people into the fold. those are the challenges. we know there is something that we will be discussing. the bank prices became some of the discussion here. some may have been vulnerable to blackmail there may be money laundering going on...

People, who were so faithful to the catholic church, dwindling numbers across europe. dwindling numbers in north america, now latin america. the pope hails from there. there were a lot of tears tonight in st. peters square. it saw interviews on italian networks and beyond with people from argentina who said we are here just because we happen to be in rome. we are catholic and we wanted to come see. it saw a young woman say but i never even had any dreams it would be our pope. our humble man. our...

And bring the enormous bureaucracy, the curia into the fold. were talking nuts and bolts? >> the church does not run on hail marys. weve got to make it work in terms of personnel and money and being effective. i think the question is how effective is the curia in an internet 24/7 world. >> reporter: from the time a card nam become ace cardinal the race for pope son. theyre judged on their intellectual, religious and spiritual heft and even their ability to communicate in italian. politicking don...

As this goes on. the next few days should be interesting for catholics and noncatholics. think how many people are represented. 1.2 billion on every continent on the planet, and all challenges we laid out. what happens here today will begin to decide how theyre going to tackle them. with the government thats been in place for so long or the reformer who comes in and says, no, lets open it up, lets show what weve done wrong. explain where we made mistakes and correct them so the catholic church...

Will tell you dolan may not be bad for church, hes outspoken, to the point and very open about his desires to reform the church on so many levels from the banking scandal, to vati-leaks and the crisis in the church regarding children and sex, and whether that sort of openness would be welcome among the fold here in rome where, as you mentioned, for hundreds of years the italians had a lock and strong hold on the papacy, whether that would be a welcome and open things remains to be seen. >> well ...

Spoken here -- to be a very good thing. hay need to figure out what to tackle first. if you look across an organization, any organization in the world and you see multiple scandals, in many cases debilitating potential scandal, you have to decide what to do first. they have to decide how theyre going to handle the child sex crisis, how theyre going to handle vatileaks, how theyre going to handle the bank scandal and how theyre going to bring new people into the fold without alienating those alre...

Hundred years ago, but it could take a little time. there is division, and i dont mean to suggest that theres division in any way except to say that this is the way we believe this massive organization should go forward. and there are two camps. theyre not specifically defined as two camps, but in general terms there are two camps. weve got to clean this up, clean it up fast, and the other side seems to be saying we can work this out, we can work this out. lets keep it tight. the reformers would...

What is the big deal? >> well, it is a big deal and senator graham is right this is a bad person the i agree. this is a person that plotted to kill members. we know that. he is close to osama bin laden. he is a son-in-law. when you catch these bad guys they go directly to jail and they should go to gitmo and if they want to give him a blind fold and cigarette i am fine with that. >> well, it seems he was, all the tapes he put out and the videos he put out no doubt about his complicity. and now m...