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A recent survey Commission Said by the National Parks Service Showed that only 7 of visitors to the parks center are africanamericans. Latinos also underrepresented. Dr. Carolyn finney explores this disconnect in an important new book called black faces, white spaces, reimagining the relationship of africanamericans to the great outdoors, which combines environmental history with cultural and race studies to give us a critical insight into why this has occurred and what we can do about changing it. Dr. Finney, its an honor to have you on this program. Let me start by asking why these numbers for blacks and latinos at the National Parks are so abysmal. Oh, my gosh. Well, we could talk about this from a whole lot of different angles, right . The first thing i want to say is that numbers dont tell you everything. Numbers are very particular way of quantifying something. And so we dont see blacks and latino people at the parks. That doesnt mean that black people dont have a relationship wi

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