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Theres a clear contract between the brothers. danny says tamerlan tsarnaev was the clear leader and dzhokhar was the follower. tamerlan was the ring leader, calling all the shots. dzhokhar was at his beck and call, doing whatever he asked. tamerlan wanted dzhokhar to take his card and use it at the atm machine. it is important to remember even though tamerlan was the ring leader, according to danny, and dzhokhar was the quiet one, dzhokhar still had an input in all of this and still had a choice...

Trying to save his own life. john? >> pamela, you sat down with the carjacking victim, you said over an hour you spent with him. what was striking to you about what he revealed to you? >> well, zoraida, what was most striking is his description of the dynamic between tamerlan and his brother. essentially he said that tamerlan was the leader and dzhokhar was the follower. he said tamerlan was very talkative, very outgoing, kept asking questions. at one point, tamerlan turned to him and said, this...

Helped make the bombs, and we will have more on all of that in a few minutes. first, we want to check in with our chief intelligence correspondent, kathryn he cathee herridge live in washington. what are we learning about a new intelligence review? thank you, and goorn. the president defended the handling of tamerlan tsarnaev, that he was a follower of radical islam, calling the internal review by the intelligence community and the handling of the intelligence up to the attacks in boston standar...

Was a follower of islam were adequately investigated and shared. with the traditional al qaeda leadership in the tribal areas of pakistan and afghanistan, he says the brothers appear to be poster boys for the radical islam. >> one of the dangers we now face are self-radicalized individual of individuals who are already here in the united states in some cases may not be part of any kind of network. but because of whatever warped, twisted ideas they may have, may decide to carry out an attack. >> ...

Sort of external training. again, until we get the answer to questions from that group of individuals, the fbi is now interviewing, were not going to be able to draw a final conclusion here. so it really could go either way right now, but most people assume that they did not do this on their own, but we have to see where the investigation leads. >> mike, weve been hearing a lot about the mother. she turns up on this phone call recorded by russian intelligence. tell us about that and what are the...

Brings up the very important question, how do you prevent a religious follower from being drawn-in by radical extreme ideologies. lets discuss this with my next guest, a for lutheran who converted to islam. hes also a volunteer laison for police. mohamed, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thanks for having me. >> you knew the family of one of the suspects in that canadian terror plot. police even talked to you about it. i wonder, were there any signs of radicalization there? >> well, i t...

Skinny. he was like a little puppy without his mama. >> shes not my girlfriend, shes my exgirlfriend. >> shes at college? >> yes. >> shes trying to study to be a music teacher. >> i have seen people like him before. i know his situation. he got caught up in something that he never should have got up in. he was running with the wrong crowd. he was a follower. he is a good kid. but he is good as gold. >> i aint got nothing. >> gaffney pushed aside his white supremacist views to learn spanish from ...

To 9/11. lindsay graham said i have no idea who bears the blame, the ultimate blame i think with the administration. joining me nbc news national investigative correspondent, michael isikoff. i want to talk to you about the fbi -- failure, the fact that both the c.i.a. and the fbi eventually had tamerlan tsarnaev on their watch list. but not in coordination with one another. the fact that the russian government had to intervene. what are you hearing about how serious this intelligence coordinati...

Russia apparently had information that tsarnaev was planning to travel there, and he was going to join up with some unspecified underground groups. and they said they made the request because he was a follower of radical islam, strong believer, that he changed drastically since 2010. what we dont know is why russian officials didnt take him away when he was there. he was in the region for six months. >> and also, joe, just so im clear, as far as we know, did any russian officials actually talk t...

Typically interview the suspect up to 48 hours before readings them their miranda rights, martha. martha: hard to understand why they would cut the time so short and they have exemptions to specifically to have that period of time with them. a lot of questions, catherine, about the sharing of information because we also learned that the cia received a similar heads up from rusher shaabout tamerlan. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence official cons firms to fox news that the cia was contacted by russi...