to the white house and every time i show up to hear testimony, i think it s probably 50/50 whether or not they ll show up. i would like to think that he could show the same courage that was seen with the witnesses so far. those who have put their careers on the line and unfortunately with the whistle-blower, those who had to put his life on the line to tell the truth. the top u.s. diplomat in ukraine, bill taylor, is willing to testify publicly. he s already been deposed behind closed doors. how influential will he be in an open hearing? look, just taking from his opening statement, it s clear he was witness to this scheme and he details this scheme of a shadow foreign policy led by someone who has no security clearance, no foreign policy experience, operating under directions by who knows who, mr.
person was off screen meaning it was a teleconference. said she was from the office of management and budget and her boss instructed her not to approve any additional spending of security assistance for ukraine until further notice. all that the omb staff person said was the directive had come from the president to the chief of staff to omb. and that is when bill taylor realized that his worst fears, jen, had come to pass. and that this other channel of foreign policy led by giuliani was, in fact, happening and tying up aid that he felt was so instrumental to ukraine obviously defending its own sovereignty. exactly. it ll be so interesting to hear today, alisyn, what we hear from d.o.d. officials. because they know the timeline, the chronology, the details of when the aid was supposed to move forward. when it was stopped. i expect democrats and others will dig into that today. but bill taylor was clearly
and goes. as soon as he got there, he describes for democrats and for everyone else in his opening statement how he saw two different things happening in ukraine, the normal foreign policy of which he was the face, and a whole set of shadow foreign policy outreaches to the new ukrainian government, which he really he was there to protect and defend. he wanted the united states to show its support for the new ukraine government and their anti-corruption agenda and their pushback against russia. at first he thought that was happening. as the summer goes on, he sees how that is not happening and he describes in a really detailed, as one lawmaker described to us today, damning portrait of how that sort of normal foreign policy is undermined by a shadow foreign policy led by people who were, in his view, doing the president s bidding.
foreign policy led by people who were, in his view, doing the president s bidding. ashley parker, ambassador sondland may grow wistful about his civilian life back home in chicago. he was a major trump donor, the job of eu ambassador sounded great. now he may find himself hauled back before congress for a do-over. can you tell our audience why that may be? the reason he would be called back is basically to clean up what he said before, which doesn t really track with the more full picture we re seeing. sondland there s a sense that he was maybe trying to protect himself and was not totally forthcoming. again, we don t know everything, we don t know everyone s sfonsz each question they were asked. but when you look at what he said, what he rormtd said, and then you look the what bill taylor said today in that
and taylor thinks about it a little bit. as soon as he got there, he describes for democrats and for announcing from tomorrow a large everyone else in his opening swath of land in northern syria will be cut in half. statement how he saw two russia s ally the syrian government in charge of the other. different things happening in this had been the kurdish homeland until president trump ukraine, the normal foreign effectively allowed turkey to policy of which he was the face, and a whole set of shadow invade it and then let the foreign policy outreaches to the new ukrainian government, which he really he was there to fighting continue. and i say and some people protect and defend. thought it was a great analogy, some people not, but it s like two kids on a playground, they he wanted the united states to fight, you let them fight for a minute and then you pull them apart. reporter: but these are not kids and this is no playground. show its support for the new ukraine government and