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And in the mueller report it says that he stopped them from getting to the truth of the matter. >> yeah. and so we havent seen any pardons. we havent darn weve seen a few public signs from trump saying that he might consider it. but i dont know. i dont know how to look at this. do you think that donald trump would go out there and pardon paul manafort unless paul manafort was doing something to actually help trump and needed to keep doing that? its unclear at this point if manafort, flynn have n...

Paul manafort unless paul manafort was doing something to actually help trump and needed to keep doing that? its unclear at this point if manafort, flynn have not fully cooperated. theyre sitting on information that would be worse for donald trump than whats already out there. so we do know that flynn has this new lawyer, sydney powell, who is a fox news commentator who believes mueller has destroyed evidence. >> right. >> who believe theres is an obama deep state plot against flynn, all the cra...