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>> domestic violence, including child abuse, sexual assault, irresponsible ownership or handling of firearms, the illegal use of alcohol or drugs. these activities must be condemned and stopped. there will be changes to our personal conduct policy.ges i know this because we will make it happen. nothing is off the table. >> let's bring tornado theg is table. you whispered you like it. >> i like it, yeah. everybody likes a mea culpa. this is a man with a plan.yb they're going to make corrections, changes in their personal conduct policy. pl about time because the nfl hasgn now become the bad boys of all professional sports. that's not a title you want to have. clean ite up and i bet he'sant committed to do that. >> the first words out of his mouth were, i got it wrong. i'm sorry for that. >> then you have all the networks and cable stations tooi it live. we call it the lower third, that was the quote and that's what they need to do do. he needed to deliver that message initially.as t i called these do no harm press conferences, so i don't think that goodell did himself any harm. he might have done some good or at least stopped the bleeding. two of the comments that were negative about it were that it was one, somebody said was pointless. and it wasnless. but i think that actually it wat measured and smart. i think that you could tell he had practiced the speech. i thought the timing was interesting, so they do it on a friday afternoon so that by sunday, this story, they start to make a full pivot and all tht commentators on sunday will sayn well, they talked about it. t they're gog have a personal was conduct committee. moving on of the i think that'sy the best they can hope for. >> you said sexual assault, domestic violence, illegal use of firearms, drug, et cetera,na those were all going to be garnering attention in the nfl. i think he's saying things a lot of people want to hear. >> yeah. that's why i'm just bored by it >> that was the goal. >> yeah. when you hea r the word process> that mensa lot of consultants and experts are about to buy second homes because that's the real winner here, the people that are going to make money ofb remaking the nfl.'s could you imagine a press thisff inquisitive over something like the irs? the nfl doesn't collect our taxes. the nfl doesn't audit us. they don't go after the government as hard as they go after the nfl. has anybody ever done a study comparing the moral faults involving these differents issues with other industries, with, say, the music industry or movie industry, or media in general? could it be that there are more a holes in the media than in thi nfl? >> yes. >> i would say yes, because i'm one of them. >> i think we know that there are more, as you say, a holes in the general population than inye the nfl. i think the records would prove that out. juan, big football fan, right?te >> yeah. >> did roger goodell go far enough today? >> no. and i think i disagree with myg? friends here. it's nice to be in to see you,fo but i thought this thing now looks like it's going to go on and grow. i was surprised that procter &ll gamble said they might pull back. the u.s. military says they'rehn not comfortable with theird relationship. you hear the advertisers speak out. i think that's why he had the press conference today. it wasn't to bore greg. it was to try to calm the water with the advertisers and i don'e think heid it. i was watching some of espn today and the espn reaction, tha sports guys was that there is at lack of trust between the o players and goodell.he they think goodell is judge and jury, if we do anything wrong,ee we're out ofn here. how come goodell is still standing? i was surprised, but itg, seemsr the roger goodell who i met, i like. has now become a polarizing figure. >> to your question, why is he there and they're not? if you've committed a crime,>> then you might not be there.why good dell is not accused of co that. he's accused of bad judgment, which he copped to today. >> we're going to talk about th- sponsors in a minute. those complaints by procter & gamble and some of the other sponsors were prior to thisy press conference. it felt to me, the way those pushbacks by the sponsors were worded, they were looking for something like this. they were lookinmeg to hang ther hat on this so they can continue to advertise. >> they were running scared f aause they were afraid o boycott. this climate of fear,inue everybodies are has a target onc their back. i question theirpu sincerity. i think they're just being sankn moanious because they're scared about losing business. >> could we hear the sponsor? i know this will take you a couple seconds. could we get the address. roll that. >> what are your comments on the fact that procter & gamblego pulled its partnership plug a today? >> well, again, we've been in contact with our sponsors. several of them have promotions in the marketplace that are inconsistent with obviously what's going on here. we understand that. mar we're going to clean up our house. we're going to get this straigh. and we're going to make a difference. they want to see us make thate o difference. >> again, k.g., it's all about the money, it really is all about the money. the sponsors in my opinion were looking to that.oney it sounded like -- i'm going to go on a limb and say they hearde what they need to do hear. i >> he's covering all the bases. he's a smart man. he's been able to have the supportt and the confidence ofto the owners, as juan points out. he's got a little bit of a player problem 'cause there is a distrust issue. this is about money. this is about the big bucks. i think he covered that base. >> juan? >> yeah. i think look, he's got to make it so that procter & gamble, th military, pepsi, whoever says we don't have an image problem and we have relationships and now the nfl established a relationship with a group that is intended to respond to domestic violence.p they're going toro make this a cause. that's all great. it's the internal stuff. how do you deal with jerry jones and his behavior as an owner? all of a sudden it's like the owners are a kabal and protecting each other and protecting the commissioner and everybody gets itchy. this thingms is so popular, onea the things that stands out is over half of americans in polls say they don't like the way the nfl handled this. but we still watch on sunday! we love football! come on, do something to quiet this down. we don't want to have our football commentators delivering moral lectures. >> exactly. that's what's driving me crazy. every singlewe person in the mea and entertainment has spoken about this, even bin laden came back. >> is that right? >> yeah. to condemn the nfl. came back and said the nfl isise evil. c >> roner goodell -- we addressed this yesterday. he said the nfl is a microcosm of american society. i kind of buy into that. do you? >> well, yeah. i think so. the old phrase is it takes a lifetime to build your reputation and a second to lose it. they have done a very good jobe over the past 15 to 20 years. they've built fans and including a lot of women. that was one of their goals. it was ao marketing goal. 2 how do we bring more women into this? how do we make ita into more ofa family game so sunday becomes family games and mom has everybody there, everybody, ho gathers? the other thing was the merchandise. >> yeah. >> for breast cancer awareness.. >> that's true. o >> to make sure kids are out there doing their sports like an hour a day. but women really decide the family budget and what to spende money on. one of the things the nfl did an was say women want a new jersey every year. they want to you have a new within as well. i don't know why you're laughita at me. >> i was thinking, did the soap opera industry ever sit down and go, how do we get more men? >> no, because we tonight really care whether you watched or not. but the nfl does care. >> but i watched "all my children," "one life to live"my and" general hospital" for ten years! >> goodell then took questions. and a reporter which shall remain nameless, asked, are you satisfied? another reporter asked, would you step down? watch how he responded. >> have you consideredwe resigng at any point throughout this? >> i have not. i'm focused on doing my job an doing the best of my ability. i understand when people areyo critical of your performance, but we have a lot of work to do. >> why do you feel like you should be able to continue in this role? >> because i acknowledge my mistake. august 28 i said we didn't get this right. we're going to make changes. >> by the way, that was a cbs reporter and new york postrigh reporter. >> he said because i acknowledge my mistakes, august 28. it's not today he's saying, thir isn't the first time i came clean on it. he's prepared for that question. i like that he had a specific. that was well handled. >> you know what the problem here is for me?i the nfl all of a sudden is this lightning rod. it's concussions one day. it's the name of my favoritedden team. >> redskins. >> oh, my god! >> i have to go home. my wife -- she's a big fan of that washington team. you know what? of now she has her name plate on the sleeve. but i got to say, one minute it's concussion, then the name of thehe washington team. now it's -- it just goes on and on. i just want toto watch football. am i a bad guy? >> can i ask you, juan? because you're an african-american, where is al sharpton? >> where is al sharpton? >> you want al sharpton? i'm going to send him to your house. >> i thought you see him every morning. race is injected into every story. the past couple years, but not here.. >> wrong. wrong. >> where is he? >> i don't know where al sharpton is. >> he's going to appear somewhere frightening. >> wait, but you know, race is part of this because you look, all the players are black. and people talk about why theolo slavery thing, the switch and m the whipping and it's horrible.e okay. but here is ththe reality. then you have this white commissioner, right, and these's white team owners and you get -- i think part of the issue hererh is i'm a little older than you guys, but pete roselle had a great relationship with guess o who, the head of the players union. had gene upshaw. i don't think goodell delivered these. >> you have a blacknshi representative representing the players association, black coaches.n. 70% of the league is black.k the owners happen to be white because they're the ones who purchased the team. there is no restriction on whatt color -- >> no, no. >> for the players, there is onh color, too, money. everybody is in that game fore money. >> everybody is in it for the green. >> i'm glad i injected race into this.d >> my favorite was all of ato sudden you're in love with al sharpton? and you think i wakeb up with al sharpton? wait 'til my wife talks to you! >> i've seen the pictures.you >> he likes the track suits. a >> i thought it was interesting he said th?e agents, the representatives, that they get to weigh in as well. i'm really interested to see what their position is going to be, whether it will be individual or band togetherm re because when you have a personal conduct committee, how do youhey start choosing like okay, thisou behavior is acceptable. this is not. there is a committee now that gets to decide that?t? i'm not sure if i'm comfortable, again, with the nfl setting all societal norms. i don't want anyone to get hitwh in an elevator or hit with a switch. should i be on a commit to tell people what they should do? i'm not comfortable with that either. >> it'sc okay. a the committee has been filled. >> but just be prepared for ther next ten years, public servicet announcements with every solemn celebrity you can imagine telling you that it's bad to hurt people. we already know that, but we're going to have -- >> or football players. i bet you see a lot of footballr players, and eli manning did, ti his credit. before we go, a heckler who may have been a cast member ofing howard stern's interrupted the conference. watch. >> what are you doing! what are you doing? don't go in an elevator! don't take me topi an elevator! please! >> i told kilmeade to wait in the car. the elevator. got that. >> the divide between president obama and the military is getting worse and former military officials are worried his plan will not work. we'll hear what they have to say next officials voicing that his plan will not work. we'll see what they have to say next. i have a cold. i took nyquil but i'm still stuffed up. nyquil cold and flu liquid gels don't unstuff your nose. really? alka-seltzer plus night rushes relief to eight symptoms of a full blown cold including your stuffy nose. 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[ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. >> the press is starting to take -- -- and this from the "new york times," quote, on ground troops in iraq, obama and his general appear >> the frustration level this is all it is doing is immunizing the isis forces where we could be destroying them. >> when you take any tool off the table and if that may be to provide comfort to some segment of the american population, fine. but it also provides comfort to the enemy.mf >> you don't win wars with apo single dimension. you don't win wars by telling your enemy what you're not going to do. >> you don't win war by relying on unreliable allies. >> let's pick up on that last one. you like that kimberly. let me read you something. the most important people to be asking themselves the question about allies is sunni tribes in iraq and syria. his support is vital to defeat isis. but should they risk their lives in what could well be a losing cause which is the generals are saying we know from our to experience that this cannot work as described? are we saying that our allies should risk their lives if we, w are not in sure of our own? >> then put forward a policy that is going to work,k that is going to win, that instillsheir confidence and gets everybody to jump in with us with troops,r with funds, with weapons, whatever we can do to create a united front to get it done. if they're saying there is flaws in the j policy, make some suggestions about how we can fix it and what we can do better. there is certainly room for improvement. >> this is interesting, eric.sug thinking about we are ten days after the president's speech to the nation, prime time address to the nation and we are still having a discussion about whaten we are going to call it, what ie is going to be. there is a major state of confusion not only amongst our allies, but from the troops and that's affecting morale. you have you are enemy wondering where we're going to go and the white house seems to bemo at ods with itself. >> all i can say is thank god for the generals 'cause if you look, you have a president who t says -- initially calls isis the j.v. team. then in the speech, he says there is no credible threat to the homeland. meanwhile, we're stopping theyou nut job in rochester, someonehra who killed for jihad in new jersey. there is a credible threat. if you're looking for terroriste out there saying what does the united states think? you can look at president obama. hopefully you'll see the generals who are really callinge the shots. hopefully, i'm praying. they're a little bitit more fearful. maybe they don't -- they're noty as aggressive as they would be if the generals just fell in line and said you're right, president obama. they're jv team.fe there is no electric threat. >> i think the generals are looking to add more things to the tool kit. not take things out. that's what they're expressing in frustration. >> the hard part aboutut being n a free country is we debate ove our plan in public, whichee doesn't inspire confidence. we don't see isis squabbling. we only see their horrible deeds. i think we need to do that. we need to be like a dog flat less than, silent but deadly. also as -- >> don't talk about jasper. >> we're demanding the impossible. we want our government and our president to anticipate a threat, and we can't profile because that would be wrong. so we wait 'til something bad happens and then we respond. the c.i.a. had a curb on spyingc on foreign governments because they didn't want to hurt their feels. >> the looks that juan gave me. the generals know what they're>> doing. i wish we had a general as the commander in chief 'cause rightj now, well, maybe that willh happen -- >> one of the things that the white house has said, trying to redefine victory.r do you think that's the next goal is explain it? what do they mean when they say degrade and destroy? is that why we're having ay. communication problem? >> no, i think we're having a communications problem because the white house has to be political. if you actually ask the american people --ause >> why? >> because most americans don't want boots on the ground. >> why does the white house have to bane political? >> because the white house represents the american people. so it'was political. >> that's not political. >> you got to understand, already we have 1600 boots on the ground.po already we have agreed to participate with the air strikes. so the idea is going to be specific counterterrorism stepse taken, especially in some areas. but the idea that we are sending massive combat troops, it's not saleable politically and the white house is doing that. >> i don't think the white housd has to be political.es i think the white house has to lead. and those are two different things. >> no. i think the white house has to sell this because if the american people don't supportca, the war, we're in big trouble. >> then let'ser see some persuasion. >> it's coming. >> that's what the generals are trying toigig t do. >> you've seen most of the american people support what the president announced last week. yes, they do.an p >> they support destroying isis. >> exactly what he's suggested, which was no boots on the grounr and air strikes. i think it's more than two-thirds of the american people support that in severalhk polls.. >> coming up, hollywood's antiwar activists haven't saidae anything about obama's so-called sort of kind of war. that wasn't the case in the bush years. we'll look at what they said and try to figure out why they're so quiet now haven't said anything about president obama's sort of war against isis. want to change the world? 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let's get him out of office before he starts ruling from a bunker. >> wow, that was tough to take. but we're not hearing much from them these days. take a look at some of the biggest names that were against the war then, bruce springstein, george cloonie, sean penn. celebrities what do you think? do they have a point? where are they now? where are they hiding? >> they're hiding because they don't like what president obama's doing. you look at what the liberals are saying, i mean, they are worried that we are in a stampede to war, that america gets back into wars too easily. for them, i think they are silenced by their own hypocrisy, because if they're opposed to war, speak out. >> okay, well, i guess apparently tim robinson and assumption san -- susan sarandon are no longer together. >> they were married? >> now you're ruining my blog. >> i'm not even calling hypocritic hypocritical. i think they're doing exactly what they do. they're liberals. they're not celebrities, they're liberals. they supporting president obama by omission. and they're against everything that president burn did. i wonder if president obama has to send military personnel in, will they change their tune? >> that little montage made me very nostalgic for those days. i wish they would think of this as different. i think they would say i erroneously and very narrowly that the president is only in this position because of what george w. bush did. >> uh-huh. >> totally ignoring the fact that the president, meaning obama, for the last three years has let the isis problem grow so much that it has become a crisis. so it's a misdirected blame, but that's probably what they would say. >> the problem is, they blame it all on bush anyway. you don't see any kind of owner ship of the situation. they say, oh, look what happened, this was a bad idea. we shouldn't have been there to begin with. >> they got applause from a crowd and they love applause. >> they are very brave about specific things like #s. >> that's easy because you can do it in between lines of cocaine. but trying to actually face evil is harder. >> okay, so why doesn't funny or die do something on itsis, can you blame them for not making a video? because the last person that did a video critical of islam went to prison. >> they were cowards because they did not defend them. >> we did say that, dana, i might have said that first. >> isn't he in jail? >> i think he's in a halfway house, which is very strange. >> it had to be the roof. >> the bottomless house. that's a party. >> weird. >> anyway, are you guys selling tickets? for your show? >> no. but here's my theory. celebrities are only pacifists when republicans are in office. so technically we can only go to war when a democrat is in office. >> what about vietnam, republicans and democrats were. >> let's say something good. if you can avoid a war, it's better, and we don't want to be rushing to war. >> but you can invite a war by your lack of action. >> absolutely, you have to act smartly. but in this situation, what stands out is that they're not speaking out at this point, and i think that's because they are fans of the president. they are giving him space. they didn't give that to others. >> valerie jarrett called them and said could you please just keep your mouths shut. >> i thought you were criticizing the president earlier for not being more aggressive about this war. >> i am. i have three words for you. general jack keane. >> the only celebrity you should listen to is william devane, buy gold. this is my train, this is my ramp ranch. >> he's amazing. the whole 24 thing that came back, he was the best president ever. william devane played the president on the latest 24. >> this is no rehearsal. >> they're going to take your salary back after this. >> oh, no. >> that's what happened. okay. >> ahead on "the five" if you're looking for a job and want to make a lot of money, juan, there's one state that's exploding. the only trouble is you can't be the only trouble is you can't be allergic to fra [ female announcer ] this is our new turkey cranberry flatbread before we craft it into a sandwich. the tender, slow-roasted turkey, the zesty cranberry mostarda, the freshly baked flatbread paired perfectly with our autumn squash soup. a delicious meal made just for you only at panera bread. a delicious meal made just for you ♪ here's a good one seattle... what did geico say to the mariner? 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people are worried about the. water table. >> but the studies are great.ont >> department of energy said it's not a problem. >> people are worried. >> they should be fracking everywhere. >> this is the point, so why not? 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really? >> i think you want me to talk. the good news is it's fantastic. the bad news is, so far 1,000 people have died from it. it's covered in ebola. >> what are you talking about? >> you know, the phones -- >> are you trying to get people to get out alive? >> so i can get in line. it was a trick. you know what this does? it creates a new kind of charger panic. because your phone lasts as long as a goldfish on a hot plate. the moment you get it, it just runs out. so if you have this new weird stretch when you're walking around, is my phone going to work? >> that's one of the most effective commercials out there, everyone's sitting at the airport, sitting around two plugs. you have apple dropping this new phone that everyone's been waiting for, and alibaba. >> if you take ebay and you're able to pays on ebay, you put a little amazon in it for china. think about the growth there. if ever you wanted to tune in to the fox business network, you should do it now. >> and if you don't have it, demand it. >> this is very interesting to me, it's not only now that you can carry around the phone, but with this new iphone, you'll be able to pay when you go to the check out counter. you don't need your wallet. it's like a virtual wallet. >> i love that. this is why i only sure view at starbucks. if you go to starbucks, they have this little app, you can eat for a week. you can get whatever you like and you just swipe it. >> so dana, is this what i should look for under the tree from dana perino? >> if it helps you lose weight, it's what everybody will want. the features are a bit exaggerated. i don't know why the environmentalists aren't all up in arms. this requires a new charger. and also what about all the accessories. i got this little thing at j crew. >> you have an iphone easy bake oven, don't you? >> i never even got an easy bake oven. >> now i'm actually worried it's going to lose charge even quicker than any iphone. >> turn off your blue tooth and turn off your roaming. >> isn't it funny now that and system copying the android? >> apple was supposed to be the innovato innovator, the leader, the trend setter. they're custom made trains. you can't get any better than that. siemens trains are not your grandparent's technology. they're something that's gonna change the cities we live in today. i find it so fascinating how many people ride this and go to work every single day. i'm one of the lucky guys. i get to play with trains. people say, "wow, we still build that in the united states?" and we say, "yeah, we do!" 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fix the problem. nothing is off the table. i repeat nothing the off the table. >> domestic violence, including child abuse, sexual assault, irresponsible ownership or handling the firearms, the illegal use of alcohol or drugs. these activities must be condemned and stopped. there will be changes to our personal conduct policy. i know this because we will make it happen. nothing is off the table. >> all right, let's bring in around the table, because you whispered you like it? >> yeah, i like it. everybody likes a mea kulpa, there's a man with a plan. nothing's off the table. they're going to make corrections, changes in their personal conduct policy. about time because the nfl has now become the bad boys of all professional sports. that's not a title you want to have. clean it up. and i feel that he's committed to doing that. >> and you're an expert in the messaging, he went to the microphone, and the first words out of his mouth were i got it wrong and i'm sorry for that. >> all the networks and cable stations took it live. that was the quote, and that's what they needed to do, he needed to deliver that message initially. i call these do no harm press conferences. i don't think goodell did 4i8s any harm, he may have done a little bit of good or marry even stopped the bleeding. two of the comments that were negative about it. one somebody said it was pointless and that it was emotionle emotionless. and i think it was actually measured, if he had practiced the speech. i think the timing was interesting so that they do it on a friday afternoon, that was sunday, they start to make a full pivot, and they say well they have talked about it, they're having a personal conduct committee, and moving on. >> illegal use of firearms, drugs, et cetera, those are all going to be garnering attention in the nfl. i think he's saying things that amou a lot of people want to hear. >> yeah, that's why i'm just bored by it. >> that was the goal. >> i think that it's finally, you know, when you hear the word process, that means a lot of consultants and experts are about to buy second homes because that's the real winner here, are the people that are going to make money off remaking the nfl. can you imagine a press, this inquisitive over something like the irs? the nfl doesn't collect our taxes, the nfl doesn't audit us, they don't go after the government as hard as they go after the nfl. and has initiate ever done a study comparing the moral faults involving these different issues with other industries, like, say, the music industry, or the movie industry, or media in general. could it be there are more a-holes in the media than there are in the nfl? i would say yes, because i'm one of them. >> we know that there are more, as you say, a-holes in the general population than in the nfl. the records will prove that out. i'm a football fan, right? did roger goodell go far enough for you today? >> well, no, and i think i disagree with my friends here, it's nice to be in to see all of you. but i think this thing is going to go on and grow. i was surprised that proctor and gamble says they might pull back. the u.s. military says they're not comfortable with their relationship. you ear seeing the advertisers speaks out. it was to try to calm the waters with the advertisers, and i didn't think he did it. i was watching some of the espn today, the espn reaction, the sports guy, was there's a lack of trust between the players and goodell. they think okay goodell is judge and jury, if we do anything wrong, we're out of here. how come goodell is still standing? i'm surprised at that level of a ac rirks oh, mony. >> goodell, to your question, why is he there and they're not? if you have committed a crime, then you might not be there. goodell is not accused of -- goodell is accused of bad judgment which he copped to today. >> those complaints by proctor and gamble and some of the other sponsors was before this press conference. the way those press conferences were worded, they wanted to hang their hat so they could continue to advertise on america's most popular sport. >> this climate of fear, everybody's got a target on their back, i question their sincerity, i think they're just being sanctimonious because they're scared about losing business. >> can we hear the sponsors? the spot on the sponsors, he addressed that question. go ahead, roll that. >> what are your comments on the fact that proctor & gamble pulled it's partnership plug today? >> well, again, we have been in contact with our sponsors, several of them had promotions in the marketplace. that are inconsistent with obviously what's going on here. and we understand that. we're going to clean up our house. we're going to get this straight. and we're going to make a difference. and they want to see us make that difference. >> again, k garks, it's all about the money, it really is all about the money, the sponsors in my opinion were looking for and i'm going to go out on a limb and say they heard what they needed to hear. >> he's covering all the bases, he's a smart man, he's been able to have the support and the confidence of the owners. as juan astutely points out, he's got a little bit of a player problem now, because there's some distrust, but this is about the big money right now, it's about the benjamins and he covered that base. >> he's got to make it so that proctor & gamble and the military say we don't have an image problem, and now the nfl has -- respond to domestic violence, they're going to pour money introit. they're going to make this a cause. that's all great. it's the internal stuff. how do you deal with jerry jones and his problems. all of a sudden it's like the owners are a cap ball and they're protecting each other and protecting the commissioner. one of the things that stands out to me over half of americans in polls say they don't like the way the nfl has handled this. but we still watch it on sunday. we love football. do something to quiet this down. we don't have our football, the comment tate fors all delivering moral lectures. >> that's what's driving me crazy, every single person in the media, in entertainment has spoken about. this even bin laden came back and said the nfl is evil. that's where we are. >> roger goodell did stay the informal is a microchasm of american society. i kind of buy into that. don't you? >> well--i think so, i mean they spent -- what's the old adage, it takes a lifetime to build your reputation, and a second to lose it? they have done a very good job over the past, 15, 20 years, they have built fans including a lot of women. and that was one of their goals. it was a marketing goal. how do we bring more women into this, how do we make it a family day? mom is in the kitchen, she's got everybody there, everybody gathers. the other thing is the merchandise. >> a lot of pink stuff. >> breast cancer awareness. they did the place 50 campaign. but women really decide the family budget and what to spend money on. one of the things that the informal dnfl did was to say women want a new jersey every year. so they get a new jersey every year, everybody wants to have a new jersey every year. >> did the soap opera industry ever sit down and say how do we get more men? >> because we don't really care if more men watch or not. >> i watched all my children, one life to live and general hospital every day for ten years. >> it's abc domination. >> goodell then took questions and after a lame nbc reporter who shall remain nameless for now asked -- it rimes with either the moment finally arrived, we were all waiting for, another reporter asked, would you step down? listeni listen to how he responds. >> would you consider resigning after that? >> i will not. i understand when people are critical of your performance. but we have a lot of work to do. >> why do you feel like you should be able to continue in this role? >> because i acknowledged my mistake, august 28th, i said, we didn't get this right. we're going make changes. >> all right, so k.g., weighing in. that was a cnbc reporter and a "new york post" reporter. >> he said because i acknowledged my mistake august 28. he said this isn't the first time i came clean to tell you i could have handled this better. i like that he was prepared to handle that question. >> the nfl is all of a sudden this lightning rod. it's concussions one day. it's the name of my favorite team in washington one day. >> redskins. >> oh, my gosh. >> you know i have to go home. i have to go home and my wife -- no, she's a big fan of that war washington team. we went last week, now she has her nameplate on that seat. that's how big a fan she is of that washington team. but one minute's concussions then it's the name of the washington team. it just goes on and on. i just want to watch football. am i a bad guy? let me ask you one thing. where's al sharpton? >> where's al a sharpton? i'm going to send him to your home. >> race is injected into every story. >> i don't know where al sharpton is, i think that greg's being greg. it would scare the bologna out of me. race is part, because you look at all the players are black, you talk about why the slavery thing, the slich and the whipping, and it's horrible, right? here's the reality, then you have this white commissioner, right? and these white team owners and you get, it's a little bit -- i think part of the issue here is, i'm a little older than you guys, but pete rose sell had a great relationship with guess who, gene upshaw. >> you have a black representative representing the players association. >> yeah, yeah. >> you have black coaches, you have 70% of the league is black. i mean the owners happen to be white because they're the ones who purchased the team. there's no restriction, there's all one color in the owner's box, it's green. >> for the players, there's one color too, green. >> i'm glad you injected race into this. i have always complained about injecting race into stories. >> my favorite is all of a sudden you're in love with al sharpton? and you think i wake up with al sharpton? wait until my wife hears that. >> he likes the track suit. >> you said that the players, the agents, the representatives, that they get to weigh in as well. i'm really interested what their position is going to be, what it will be individuals or they will band together. when you have a personal conduct committee, how do you start choosing like, this behavior is acceptable, this is not, there's a committee now that gets to decide that? i'm not sure if i'm comfortable again with the nfl setting all societal norms. i don't want anyone to get hit in an elevator. i don't want to get anyone to get hit with a switch. but should i be on a committee to tell people what they should do? i'm got comfortable with that. >> it's okay, the committee's been filled. >> but just be prepared for the next ten years, public service announcements, with every solemn celebrity you can imagine saying it's bad to hit people. >> you'll hear a lot of football players come out and say, eli manning did to his credit. >> a heckler what may have been a cast member of howard sterns i interrupted the press conference called pink style. watch. >> don't make me go into the elevator! please! don't make me go into the elevator! >> please! >> i told kill meade to wait in the car. up next, the divide between president obama and his military leaders is getting worse and some former military officials voicing that his plan will not work. we'll see what they have to say next. >> the press is starting to take -- -- and this from the "new york times," quote, on ground troops in iraq, obama and his general appear at odds. general jack keane summed up the disconnect last night on "the five." >> the central command headquarters -- with the president and the white house issed a high as it has ever been. >> listen to this. >> we are not using the strength and the power -- >> these are pin pricks. this is all that is going is immunizing the isis forces when we could be destroying them. >> when you take any tool off the table, and if that may be to provide comfort to some segment of the american population, fine, it also provides comfort to the enemy. >> you don't win wars with a single dimension, you don't win wars by telling your enemy what you're not going to do. >> you don't win wars by relying on unreliable allies. >> let me read you something from max boot at the comment tear magazine. the most people -- whose support is vital to defeat isis, but should they risk their lives in what could be a losing cause. the generals are saying, we know from our experience that this cannot work as described. does this mean that our allies should risk their elys if we're not sure of our policy. >> put forward a policy that instills confidence and gets everybody to jump in with us with funds, with troops. if they're saying there's flaws in the policy, make some suggestions about how to fix it and how we can do better. i think there's certainly room for improvement. >> we're ten days after the president's speech to the nation, the prime time speech to the nation, and we're still having a discussion about what we're going to call it, what it's going to be. there's a major state of confusion not only from our allies, but from the troops. that's affecting morale, you u have our enemy, who's wondering where are we going to do, and the why is seems to be at odds with themselves at times. >> all i can says is thank god for the generals. in that speech ten days ago, as you point out, he says there's no credible threat to the homeland. meanwhile we're stopping this nut job in rochester, we have someone who killed for jihad in new jersey. if you're looking at jihadists out there, terrorists out there thinking what is the united states thinking, hopefully they'll see the generals who are really calling the shots, hopefully, i'm praying, maybe they're a little bit more fearful. maybe they're not as aggressive as they would be as if the generals just fell in line and said, you're right, president obama, there's no j vorks team. >> i think the president is trying to add more things to the tool kit not taking things out. >> the hard part about being in a free country, is that we debate over our plan in public. which doesn't inspire confidence. we don't see isis squabbling u we only see their horrible deeds, which makes them seem singular in purpose. i think we need to be like dog flatulence, silent but deadly. >> don't talk about jasper. >> we're demanding the impossible, we want our government and our president to anticipate a threat. but we can't profile because that would be racist, but you can't mass collect because that would be a violation of privacy. so we wait until something bad happens and then we react. >> that's what i was talking about, adding tools. >> oh, my god, the look that juan just gave me. the generals know what they're doing, i wish we had a general as the commander in chief. because right now -- >> our guy is hiding under the covers. >> one thing that the white house has said is that they have been at pains to redefine victory. what do they mean when they say degrade and destroy. is that why we're having a communications problem? >> i think we're having a communications problem because the white house has to be political. if you actually ask the american people -- >> why? >> because most americans do not want boots on the grountd. >> why does the white house have to be political? why can't the white house be the white house? >> because the white house represents the american people. >> that's political. >> all right we have 1,600 boots on the ground, already we have agreed to participate with the air strikes. so the add is going to be specific counter terrorism steps taken, especially in some areas, but the idea that we are sending masses of combat troops is just not salable politically. >> i don't think the white house has to be political, i think the white house has to lead. those are two different things. >> if the american people don't support the war, we're in big trouble. >> a lot of things that -- lists s let's see some persuasion. >> already you have seen that most of the american people support what the president announcement last week yes, they do. absolutely. >> they support destroying isis. >> exactly what he suggested which was no boots on the ground and air strikes, i think more than 2/3 of american people support that in several polls. >> we will continue to debate that during the commercial break, but anti-war activists haven't said anything about president obama's sort of war against isis. giving a little complement to general jack keen and apparently two of the members of the paneling are jealous. >> mr. bush, you have hijacked our pain, our loss, our fear. let us resist this war. >> we want to see americans protected. we do not believe that a military strike in iraq makes americans more safe. >> i do believe that the blood will be on all our hands, the blood of american soldiers, the blood of iraqis. >> your is ongoing commitment to this war allows people in other parts of the world to remain hopeful that america has the stuff to become again a country that they can love and respect. >> is impeachment still on the table? let's get him out of office before he starts ruling from a bunker. >> wow, that was tough to take. but we're not hearing much from them these days. take a look at some of the biggest names that were against the war then, bruce springstein, george cloonie, sean penn. celebrities what do you think? do they have a point? where are they now? where are they hiding? >> they're hiding because they don't like what president obama's doing. you look at what the liberals are saying, i mean, they are worried that we are in a stampede to war, that america gets back into wars too easily. for them, i think they are silenced by their own hypocrisy, because if they're opposed to war, speak out. >> okay, well, i guess apparently tim robinson and assumption san -- susan sarandon are no longer together. >> they were married? >> now you're ruining my blog. >> i'm not even calling hypocritic hypocritical. i think they're doing exactly what they do. they're liberals. they're not celebrities, they're liberals. they supporting president obama by omission. and they're against everything that president burn did. i wonder if president obama has to send military personnel in, will they change their tune? >> that little montage made me very nostalgic for those days. i wish they would think of this as different. i think they would say i erroneously and very narrowly that the president is only in this position because of what george w. bush did. >> uh-huh. >> totally ignoring the fact that the president, meaning obama, for the last three years has let the isis problem grow so much that it has become a crisis. so it's a misdirected blame, but that's probably what they would say. >> the problem is, they blame it all on bush anyway. you don't see any kind of owner ship of the situation. they say, oh, look what happened, this was a bad idea. we shouldn't have been there to begin with. >> they got applause from a crowd and they love applause. >> they are very brave about specific things like #s. >> that's easy because you can do it in between lines of cocaine. but trying to actually face evil is harder. >> okay, so why doesn't funny or die do something on itsis, can you blame them for not making a video? because the last person that did a video critical of islam went to prison. >> they were cowards because they did not defend them. >> we did say that, dana, i might have said that first. >> isn't he in jail? >> i think he's in a halfway house, which is very strange. >> it had to be the roof. >> the bottomless house. that's a party. >> weird. >> anyway, are you guys selling tickets? for your show? >> no. but here's my theory. celebrities are only pacifists when republicans are in office. so technically we can only go to war when a democrat is in office. >> what about vietnam, republicans and democrats were. >> let's say something good. if you can avoid a war, it's better, and we don't want to be rushing to war. >> but you can invite a war by your lack of action. >> absolutely, you have to act smartly. but in this situation, what stands out is that they're not speaking out at this point, and i think that's because they are fans of the president. they are giving him space. they didn't give that to others. >> valerie jarrett called them and said could you please just keep your mouths shut. >> i thought you were criticizing the president earlier for not being more aggressive about this war. >> i am. i have three words for you. general jack keane. >> the only celebrity you should listen to is william devane, buy gold. this is my train, this is my ramp ranch. >> he's amazing. the whole 24 thing that came back, he was the best president ever. william devane played the president on the latest 24. >> t >> they're going to take your salary back after this. >> oh, no. >> that's what happened. okay. >> ahead on "the five" if you're looking for a job and want to make a lot of money, juan, there's one state that's exploding. the only trouble is you can't be allergic to fra it's hard to find good news these days, north dakota leads the nation in personal income growth in six of the last seven years. of course connecticut and d.c. beat it in per capita income. is it a burgeoning market for sun flower meat. the sensuous appeal of fracking? how come the president doesn't point to north dakota and say, hey, there's pretty awesome? it's because north dakota's win is seen as their loss. which is weird because natural gas was something that liberals useded to love. it's true, when it was expensive, it was great. now that it's cheap, it's evil. it's like the suv, when only celebrities were chauffeured in them, we all got them. why does the left hate something that creates jobs, and makes us energy independent, because it's not government? the fracking revolution is a triumph of humanity, kwheen government gets out of the way, good things happen. it's sad that something so awesomely american is ignored by our government because they didn't create it. the only thing the president seems to make these days are excuses. >> eric, you're the expert in all things oil and fuel. fracking was once seen as green energy, because it was natural. why did all of a sudden they changed their minds? >> they're trying to change back into convincing people that it is safe. they were concerned about the water table, the water table is going to be safe. can i just point out how dumb these liberals are? in north dakota because the economy is so good and so strong, they're hiring people. but not only are they hiring people, they're paying them more to get there, so the wages are going up. so you have that benefit, but when wages go up, what else goes up? >> bingo. >> their schools are good. i'm surprised they don't want it more because it's better for the global warming problem. >> there's five problems, dana, that fracking sols, it makes us less energy department. makes money for the government. lowers energy costs. is there a down side? >> yes, billionaire some stier who is supporting democrats doesn't like it. >> forget about it. >> that is true. >> it creates 180,000 jobs in pennsylvania, it's banned in new york. do you think they have to lift that ban and help upstate new york become as rich as all these manhatt manhattanites. >> would you refer to live in north dakota or new york. >> i would love to live anywhere if i'm in walking distance to a lu liquor store or a strip joint. >> there's a reason, it's pretty obvious, yes their incomes are going up. you got to pay people to move there because they don't want to live there. and people are worried about the water tables. >> people are worried -- >> they could use some help. >> they should be fracking everywhere. >> this is the point, why not? because most experts will tell you if it wasn't for increased oil and gas production on most public lands, the u.s. might have slipped into more of a recession. you would think the government would want to move forward. but inge stead they seem to be against everything that makes sense. >> president obama was clearly against fracking earlier in his political career. he's come around since it's so successful, it's provided to many jobs, dropped the price of oil. he actually brags about the natural gas. >> he evolved on natural gas the way he evolved on fracking. >> it's friday, i'm mailing it in, people. >> remember the good old days, facebook friday? >> unbelievable. >> it's a combination of factors. okay, when we come back, how long would you wait in line for the iphone 6? some waited for two weeks. are they insane? of course they are. you'll hear from some of the biggest apple fanatics when we get back. so guess what, so, little old me, city mouse, actually country mouse came to big city today, new york city to see my friend and i can't even move around because the iphone 6 hit stores today. it's already generating massive sales. more than 4 million people preordered the phone in the first 24 hours after it was announced. thousands and i saw them are camped out at stores all over the world. to get their hands and their eyes on one today. here are some of those folks. >> the iphone 6 and the iphone 6 plus. >> it's amazing. it's so beautiful. >> i'm so excited. >> so excited. >> here it is. >> here it is. >> i had to wait in line for 16 hours. >> i've been waiting basically since march for this phone to come out. very excited. >> from what i can tell, it seems like it is a huge jump in quality from the 5 to the 6. >> really warm welcome when you get in there, which is cool. >> i got the 6 plus. >> big hands need a big phone. >> i'm telling you, it was like a celebration, it was like consumer heaven. i don't know what's going on. it has a bigger screen, as i understand it. you can have more megabites or giga bites whatever, but stand in line all night? really? >> i think you want me to talk. the good news is it's fantastic. the bad news is, so far 1,000 people have died from it. it's covered in ebola. >> what are you talking about? >> you know, the phones -- >> are you trying to get people to get out alive? >> so i can get in line. it was a trick. you know what this does? it creates a new kind of charger panic. because your phone lasts as long as a goldfish on a hot plate. the moment you get it, it just runs out. so if you have this new weird stretch when you're walking around, is my phone going to work? >> that's one of the most effective commercials out there, everyone's sitting at the airport, sitting around two plugs. you have apple dropping this new phone that everyone's been waiting for, and alibaba. >> if you take ebay and you're able to pays on ebay, you put a little amazon in it for china. think about the growth there. if ever you wanted to tune in to the fox business network, you should do it now. >> and if you don't have it, demand it. >> this is very interesting to me, it's not only now that you can carry around the phone, but with this new iphone, you'll be able to pay when you go to the check out counter. you don't need your wallet. it's like a virtual wallet. >> i love that. this is why i only sure view at starbucks. if you go to starbucks, they have this little app, you can eat for a week. you can get whatever you like and you just swipe it. >> so dana, is this what i should look for under the tree from dana perino? >> if it helps you lose weight, it's what everybody will want. the features are a bit exaggerated. i don't know why the environmentalists aren't all up in arms. this requires a new charger. and also what about all the accessories. i got this little thing at j crew. >> you have an iphone easy bake oven, don't you? >> i never even got an easy bake oven. >> now i'm actually worried it's going to lose charge even quicker than any iphone. >> turn off your blue tooth and turn off your roaming. >> isn't it funny now that and system copying the android? >> apple was supposed to be the innovato innovator, the leader, the trend setter. all right, time for "money more thing." i'm going to start it off, it's friday so it's time for -- okay, kanye west is a fool. that's not the breaking news. but mr. kardashian earned four a week because he demanded everyone stand up. >> i can't do this song until everyone stands up. there's two people left that haven't stood up. this is the longest i have had to wait to do something. >> yeah, turns out two people couldn't stand because they were handicappe handicapped, one of them held up a prosthesis. >> i have something amazing. so you cannot miss. >> i noticed. >> it's official, you've ruined it. all right, you cannot misgreta torrent. greta investigates the scandal on isis. you're going to learn a lot about this organization, where they came from and how they came into power and what exactly they have as far as tools at their disposal from a technology and media stand point. >> people may not have homes or cars or jobs, but everyone's got a phone? >> right, and isis has a immediamedia center. >> it seems that's sis has a response team. whereas the old style al qaeda sometimes can take weeks to responds. >> you don't want to miss it tonight. catch greta, she's got the full story tonight. >> well, you know that wednesday was constitution day for our great american constitution and i was the constitution day speaker at franklin pierce university in new hampshire and i won. i was given the marilyn fitzwater communications gold medal. i'm like the wizard of oz, greg, before you mock me. thank you so much for the school, and the bushes have a strong relationship to franklin pierce. molly fitzwater, who was not only press secretary under ronald reagan, but also under george george w. bush. >> i love marilyn, marilyn, excuse me. okay, this is not a funny one more thing, this is very serious. yesterday in central park, right by where i always go with jasper. there's a woman was -- a pedestrian was hit by a cyclist, who was peddling a $4,000 raceal bike, he hit her, he is now brain dead and he has admitted. his name is jason marshall, he has not been charged yet, but there's a question as to whether the light was red or not. i think maybe it's time for the park to make drastic action and eliminate the bikes in the park. >> they literally try to run you down. >> i want to thank rob port for the information on fracking, that's where i found it. but first or last -- i hate these people. >> all right, take a look at this video, it's absolutely disgusting. this poor little rat. stuck on an endless run on a rubber handrail and you see behind him, you can see the crowd there, they're just watching, they're not trying to help the rat. that's us on this earth. that's life, people. facebook.com/megynkelly. thanks for watching everybody. i'm megyn kelly. this is "the kelly file." welcome to "hannity." tonight for the entire hour i'll be joined by a lively and distinguished audience for a "hannity" conversation targeting the nfl. america, are you ready? it's time to roll. >> there were new developments today in the nfl scandal. the league took a number of hits last week with players linked to domestic violence. >> that's not me. my actions were inexcusable. >> something we saw for the first time today. and it changed things of course. >> i think when anyone

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fix the problem. nothing is off the table. i repeat nothing the off the table. >> domestic violence, including child abuse, sexual assault, irresponsible ownership or handling the firearms, the illegal use of alcohol or drugs. these activities must be condemned and stopped. there will be changes to our personal conduct policy. i know this because we will make it happen. nothing is off the table. >> all right, let's bring in around the table, because you whispered you like it? >> yeah, i like it. everybody likes a mea kulpa, there's a man with a plan. nothing's off the table. they're going to make corrections, changes in their personal conduct policy. about time because the nfl has now become the bad boys of all professional sports. that's not a title you want to have. clean it up. and i feel that he's committed to doing that. >> and you're an expert in the messaging, he went to the microphone, and the first words out of his mouth were i got it wrong and i'm sorry for that. >> all the networks and cable stations took it live. that was the quote, and that's what they needed to do, he needed to deliver that message initially. i call these do no harm press conferences. i don't think goodell did 4i8s any harm, he may have done a little bit of good or marry even stopped the bleeding. two of the comments that were negative about it. one somebody said it was pointless and that it was emotionle emotionless. and i think it was actually measured, if he had practiced the speech. i think the timing was interesting so that they do it on a friday afternoon, that was sunday, they start to make apiv they have talked about it, they're having a personal conduct committee, and moving on. >> illegal use of firearms, drugs, et cetera, those are all going to be garnering attention in the nfl. i think he's saying things that amou a lot of people want to hear. >> yeah, that's why i'm just bored by it. >> that was the goal. >> i think that it's finally, you know, when you hear the word process, that means a lot of consultants and experts are about to buy second homes because that's the real winner here, are the people that are going to make money off remaking the nfl. can you imagine a press, this inquisitive over something like the irs? the nfl doesn't collect our taxes, the nfl doesn't audit us, they don't go after the government as hard as they go after the nfl. and has initiate ever done a study comparing the moral faults involving these different issues with other industries, like, say, the music industry, or the movie industry, or media in general. could it be there are more a-holes in the media than there are in the nfl? i would say yes, because i'm one of them. >> we know that there are more, as you say, a-holes in the general population than in the nfl. the records will prove that out. i'm a football fan, right? did roger goodell go far enough for you today? >> well, no, and i think i disagree with my friends here, it's nice to be in to see all of you. but i think this thing is going to go on and grow. i was surprised that proctor and gamble says they might pull back. the u.s. military says they're not comfortable with their relationship. you ear seeing the advertisers speaks out. it was to try to calm the waters with the advertisers, and i didn't think he did it. i was watching some of the espn today, the espn reaction, the sports guy, was there's a lack of trust between the players and goodell. they think okay goodell is judge and jury, if we do anything wrong, we're out of here. how come goodell is still standing? i'm surprised at that level of a ac rirks oh, mony. >> goodell, to your question, why is he there and they're not? if you have committed a crime, then you might not be there. goodell is not accused of -- goodell is accused of bad judgment which he copped to today. >> those complaints by proctor and gamble and some of the other sponsors was before this press conference. the way those press conferences were worded, they wanted to hang their hat so they could continue to advertise on america's most popular sport. >> this climate of fear, everybody's got a target on their back, i question their sincerity, i think they're just being sanctimonious because they're scared about losing business. >> can we hear the sponsors? the spot on the sponsors, he addressed that question. go ahead, roll that. >> what are your comments on the fact that proctor & gamble pulled it's partnership plug today? >> well, again, we have been in contact with our sponsors, several of them had promotions in the marketplace. that are inconsistent with obviously what's going on here. and we understand that. we're going to clean up our house. we're going to get this straight. and we're going to make a difference. and they want to see us make that difference. >> again, k garks, it's all about the money, it really is all about the money, the sponsors in my opinion were looking for and i'm going to go out on a limb and say they heard what they needed to hear. >> he's covering all the bases, he's a smart man, he's been able to have the support and the confidence of the owners. as juan astutely points out, he's got a little bit of a player problem now, because there's some distrust, but this is about the big money right now, it's about the benjamins and he covered that base. >> he's got to make it so that proctor & gamble and the military say we don't have an image problem, and now the nfl has -- respond to domestic violence, they're going to pour money introit. they're going to make this a cause. that's all great. it's the internal stuff. how do you deal with jerry jones and his problems. all of a sudden it's like the owners are a cap ball and they're protecting each other and protecting the commissioner. one of the things that stands out to me over half of americans in polls say they don't like the way the nfl has handled this. but we still watch it on sunday. we love football. do something to quiet this down. we don't have our football, the comment tate fors all delivering moral lectures. >> that's what's driving me crazy, every single person in the media, in entertainment has spoken about. this even bin laden came back and said the nfl is evil. that's where we are. >> roger goodell did stay the informal is a microchasm of american society. i kind of buy into that. don't you? >> well--i think so, i mean they spent -- what's the old adage, it takes a lifetime to build your reputation, and a second to lose it? they have done a very good job over the past, 15, 20 years, they have built fans including a lot of women. and that was one of their goals. it was a marketing goal. how do we bring more women into this, how do we make it a family day? mom is in the kitchen, she's got everybody there, everybody gathers. the other thing is the merchandise. >> a lot of pink stuff. >> breast cancer awareness. they did the place 50 campaign. but women really decide the family budget and what to spend money on. one of the things that the informal dnfl did was to say women want a new jersey every year. so they get a new jersey every year, everybody wants to have a new jersey every year. >> did the soap opera industry ever sit down and say how do we get more men? >> because we don't really care if more men watch or not. >> i watched all my children, one life to live and general hospital every day for ten years. >> it's abc domination. >> goodell then took questions and after a lame nbc reporter who shall remain nameless for now asked -- it rimes with either the moment finally arrived, we were all waiting for, another reporter asked, would you step down? listeni listen to how he responds. >> would you consider resigning after that? >> i will not. i understand when people are critical of your performance. but we have a lot of work to do. >> why do you feel like you should be able to continue in this role? >> because i acknowledged my mistake, august 28th, i said, we didn't get this right. we're going make changes. >> all right, so k.g., weighing in. that was a cnbc reporter and a "new york post" reporter. >> he said because i acknowledged my mistake august 28. he said this isn't the first time i came clean to tell you i could have handled this better. i like that he was prepared to handle that question. >> the nfl is all of a sudden this lightning rod. it's concussions one day. it's the name of my favorite team in washington one day. >> redskins. >> oh, my gosh. >> you know i have to go home. i have to go home and my wife -- no, she's a big fan of that war washington team. we went last week, now she has her nameplate on that seat. that's how big a fan she is of that washington team. but one minute's concussions then it's the name of the washington team. it just goes on and on. i just want to watch football. am i a bad guy? let me ask you one thing. where's al sharpton? >> where's al a sharpton? i'm going to send him to your home. >> race is injected into every story. >> i don't know where al sharpton is, i think that greg's being greg. it would scare the bologna out of me. race is part, because you look at all the players are black, you talk about why the slavery thing, the slich and the whipping, and it's horrible, right? here's the reality, then you have this white commissioner, right? and these white team owners and you get, it's a little bit -- i think part of the issue here is, i'm a little older than you guys, but pete rose sell had a great relationship with guess who, gene upshaw. >> you have a black representative representing the players association. >> yeah, yeah. >> you have black coaches, you have 70% of the league is black. i mean the owners happen to be white because they're the ones who purchased the team. there's no restriction, there's all one color in the owner's box, it's green. >> for the players, there's one color too, green. >> i'm glad you injected race into this. i have always complained about injecting race into stories. >> my favorite is all of a sudden you're in love with al sharpton? and you think i wake up with al sharpton? wait until my wife hears that. >> he likes the track suit. >> you said that the players, the agents, the representatives, that they get to weigh in as well. i'm really interested what their position is going to be, what it will be individuals or they will band together. when you have a personal conduct committee, how do you start choosing like, this behavior is acceptable, this is not, there's a committee now that gets to decide that? i'm not sure if i'm comfortable again with the nfl setting all societal norms. i don't want anyone to get hit in an elevator. i don't want to get anyone to get hit with a switch. but should i be on a committee to tell people what they should do? i'm got comfortable with that. >> it's okay, the committee's been filled. >> but just be prepared for the next ten years, public service announcements, with every solemn celebrity you can imagine saying it's bad to hit people. >> you'll hear a lot of football players come out and say, eli manning did to his credit. >> a heckler what may have been a cast member of howard sterns i interrupted the press conference called pink style. watch. >> don't make me go into the elevator! please! don't make me go into the elevator! >> please! >> i told kill meade to wait in the car. up next, the divide between president obama and his military leaders is getting worse and some former military officials voicing that his plan will not work. we'll see what they have to say next. you fifteen percent or more on huh, fiftcar insurance.uld save yeah, everybody knows that. well, did you know that playing cards with kenny rogers gets old pretty fast? 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>> i think we're having a communications problem because the white house has to be political. if you actually ask the american people -- >> why? >> because most americans do not want boots on the grountd. >> why does the white house have to be political? why can't the white house be the white house? >> because the white house represents the american people. >> that's political. >> all right we have 1,600 boots on the ground, already we have agreed to participate with the air strikes. so the add is going to be specific counter terrorism steps taken, especially in some areas, but the idea that we are sending masses of combat troops is just not salable politically. >> i don't think the white house has to be political, i think the white house has to lead. those are two different things. >> if the american people don't support the war, we're in big trouble. >> a lot of things that -- lists s let's see some persuasion. >> already you have seen that most of the american people support what the president announcement last week yes, they do. absolutely. >> they support destroying isis. >> exactly what he suggested which was no boots on the ground and air strikes, i think more than 2/3 of american people support that in several polls. >> we will continue to debate that during the commercial break, but anti-war activists haven't said anything about president obama's sort of war against isis. he trains. he's psyched. ready for the knockout? 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let's get him out of office before he starts ruling from a bunker. >> wow, that was tough to take. but we're not hearing much from them these days. take a look at some of the biggest names that were against the war then, bruce springstein, george cloonie, sean penn. celebrities what do you think? do they have a point? where are they now? where are they hiding? >> they're hiding because they don't like what president obama's doing. you look at what the liberals are saying, i mean, they are worried that we are in a stampede to war, that america gets back into wars too easily. for them, i think they are silenced by their own hypocrisy, because if they're opposed to war, speak out. >> okay, well, i guess apparently tim robinson and assumption san -- susan sarandon are no longer together. >> they were married? >> now you're ruining my blog. >> i'm not even calling hypocritic hypocritical. i think they're doing exactly what they do. they're liberals. they're not celebrities, they're liberals. they supporting president obama by omission. and they're against everything that president burn did. i wonder if president obama has to send military personnel in, will they change their tune? >> that little montage made me very nostalgic for those days. i wish they would think of this as different. i think they would say i erroneously and very narrowly that the president is only in this position because of what george w. bush did. >> uh-huh. >> totally ignoring the fact that the president, meaning obama, for the last three years has let the isis problem grow so much that it has become a crisis. so it's a misdirected blame, but that's probably what they would say. >> the problem is, they blame it all on bush anyway. you don't see any kind of owner ship of the situation. they say, oh, look what happened, this was a bad idea. we shouldn't have been there to begin with. >> they got applause from a crowd and they love applause. >> they are very brave about specific things like #s. >> that's easy because you can do it in between lines of cocaine. but trying to actually face evil is harder. >> okay, so why doesn't funny or die do something on itsis, can you blame them for not making a video? because the last person that did a video critical of islam went to prison. >> they were cowards because they did not defend them. >> we did say that, dana, i might have said that first. >> isn't he in jail? >> i think he's in a halfway house, which is very strange. >> it had to be the roof. >> the bottomless house. that's a party. >> weird. >> anyway, are you guys selling tickets? for your show? >> no. but here's my theory. celebrities are only pacifists when republicans are in office. so technically we can only go to war when a democrat is in office. >> what about vietnam, republicans and democrats were. >> let's say something good. if you can avoid a war, it's better, and we don't want to be rushing to war. >> but you can invite a war by your lack of action. >> absolutely, you have to act smartly. but in this situation, what stands out is that they're not speaking out at this point, and i think that's because they are fans of the president. they are giving him space. they didn't give that to others. >> valerie jarrett called them and said could you please just keep your mouths shut. >> i thought you were criticizing the president earlier for not being more aggressive about this war. >> i am. i have three words for you. general jack keane. >> the only celebrity you should listen to is william devane, buy gold. this is my train, this is my ramp ranch. >> he's amazing. the whole 24 thing that came back, he was the best president ever. william devane played the president on the latest 24. >> this is no rehearsal. >> they're going to take your salary back after this. >> oh, no. >> that's what happened. okay. >> ahead on "the five" if you're looking for a job and want to make a lot of money, juan, there's one state that's exploding. the only trouble is you can't be allergic to fracking. we're going to tell you which state you want to month to. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. 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how come the president doesn't point to north dakota and say, hey, there's pretty awesome? it's because north dakota's win is seen as their loss. which is weird because natural gas was something that liberals useded to love. it's true, when it was expensive, it was great. now that it's cheap, it's evil. it's like the suv, when only celebrities were chauffeured in them, we all got them. why does the left hate something that creates jobs, and makes us energy independent, because it's not government? the fracking revolution is a triumph of humanity, kwheen government gets out of the way, good things happen. it's sad that something so awesomely american is ignored by our government because they didn't create it. the only thing the president seems to make these days are excuses. >> eric, you're the expert in all things oil and fuel. fracking was once seen as green energy, because it was natural. why did all of a sudden they changed their minds? >> they're trying to change back into convincing people that it is safe. they were concerned about the water table, the water table is going to be safe. can i just point out how dumb these liberals are? in north dakota because the economy is so good and so strong, they're hiring people. but not only are they hiring people, they're paying them more to get there, so the wages are going up. so you have that benefit, but when wages go up, what else goes up? >> bingo. >> their schools are good. i'm surprised they don't want it more because it's better for the global warming problem. >> there's five problems, dana, that fracking sols, it makes us less energy department. makes money for the government. lowers energy costs. is there a down side? >> yes, billionaire some stier who is supporting democrats doesn't like it. >> forget about it. >> that is true. >> it creates 180,000 jobs in pennsylvania, it's banned in new york. do you think they have to lift that ban and help upstate new york become as rich as all these manhatt manhattanites. >> would you refer to live in north dakota or new york. >> i would love to live anywhere if i'm in walking distance to a lu liquor store or a strip joint. >> there's a reason, it's pretty obvious, yes their incomes are going up. you got to pay people to move there because they don't want to live there. and people are worried about the water tables. >> people are worried -- >> they could use some help. >> they should be fracking everywhere. >> this is the point, why not? because most experts will tell you if it wasn't for increased oil and gas production on most public lands, the u.s. might have slipped into more of a recession. you would think the government would want to move forward. but inge stead they seem to be against everything that makes sense. >> president obama was clearly against fracking earlier in his political career. he's come around since it's so successful, it's provided to many jobs, dropped the price of oil. he actually brags about the natural gas. >> he evolved on natural gas the way he evolved on fracking. >> it's friday, i'm mailing it in, people. >> remember the good old days, facebook friday? >> unbelievable. >> it's a combination of factors. okay, when we come back, how long would you wait in line for the iphone 6? some waited for two weeks. are they insane? of course they are. you'll hear from some of the biggest apple fanatics when we get back. state is jump-startin business with startup-ny. an unprecedented program that partners businesses with universities across the state. for better access to talent, cutting edge research, and state of the art facilities. and you pay no taxes for ten years. from biotech in brooklyn, to next gen energy in binghamton, to manufacturing in buffalo... startup-ny has new businesses popping up across the state. see how startup-ny can help your business grow at startup.ny.gov hi! can i help you? 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really? >> i think you want me to talk. the good news is it's fantastic. the bad news is, so far 1,000 people have died from it. it's covered in ebola. >> what are you talking about? >> you know, the phones -- >> are you trying to get people to get out alive? >> so i can get in line. it was a trick. you know what this does? it creates a new kind of charger panic. because your phone lasts as long as a goldfish on a hot plate. the moment you get it, it just runs out. so if you have this new weird stretch when you're walking around, is my phone going to work? >> that's one of the most effective commercials out there, everyone's sitting at the airport, sitting around two plugs. you have apple dropping this new phone that everyone's been waiting for, and alibaba. >> if you take ebay and you're able to pays on ebay, you put a little amazon in it for china. think about the growth there. if ever you wanted to tune in to the fox business network, you should do it now. >> and if you don't have it, demand it. >> this is very interesting to me, it's not only now that you can carry around the phone, but with this new iphone, you'll be able to pay when you go to the check out counter. you don't need your wallet. it's like a virtual wallet. >> i love that. this is why i only sure view at starbucks. if you go to starbucks, they have this little app, you can eat for a week. you can get whatever you like and you just swipe it. >> so dana, is this what i should look for under the tree from dana perino? >> if it helps you lose weight, it's what everybody will want. the features are a bit exaggerated. i don't know why the environmentalists aren't all up in arms. this requires a new charger. and also what about all the accessories. i got this little thing at j crew. >> you have an iphone easy bake oven, don't you? >> i never even got an easy bake oven. >> now i'm actually worried it's going to lose charge even quicker than any iphone. >> turn off your blue tooth and turn off your roaming. >> isn't it funny now that and system copying the android? >> apple was supposed to be the innovato innovator, the leader, the trend setter. >> they're going to sell a lot this christmas. one more thing, hang with it. patented sonic technology with up to 27% more brush movements get healthier gums in two weeks guaranteed. philips sonicare discover the brush that's perfect for you. i make a lot of purchases foand i get ass. lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 50,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. and i earn 5 times the rewards on internet, phone services and at office supply stores. with ink plus i can choose how to redeem my points. travel, gift cards, even cash back. and my rewards points won't expire. so you can make owning a business even more rewarding. ink from chase. so you can. all right, time for "money more thing." i'm going to start it off, it's friday so it's time for -- okay, kanye west is a fool. that's not the breaking news. but mr. kardashian earned four a week because he demanded everyone stand up. >> i can't do this song until everyone stands up. there's two people left that haven't stood up. this is the longest i have had to wait to do something. >> yeah, turns out two people couldn't stand because they were handicappe handicapped, one of them held up a prosthesis. >> i have something amazing. so you cannot miss. >> i noticed. >> it's official, you've ruined it. all right, you cannot misgreta torrent. greta investigates the scandal you're going to learn a lot about this organization, where they came from and how they came into power and what exactly they have as far as tools at their disposal from a technology and media stand point. >> people may not have homes or cars or jobs, but everyone's got a phone? >> right, and isis has a immediamedia center. >> it seems that's sis has a response team. whereas the old style al qaeda sometimes can take weeks to responds. >> you don't want to miss it tonight. catch greta, she's got the full story tonight. >> well, you know that wednesday was constitution day for our great american constitution and i was the constitution day speaker at franklin pierce university in new hampshire and i won. i was given the marilyn fitzwater communications gold medal. i'm like the wizard of oz, greg, before you mock me. thank you so much for the school, and the bushes have a strong relationship to franklin pierce. molly fitzwater, who was not only press secretary under ronald reagan, but also under george george w. bush. >> i love marilyn, marilyn, excuse me. okay, this is not a funny one more thing, this is very serious. yesterday in central park, right by where i always go with jasper. there's a woman was -- a pedestrian was hit by a cyclist, who was peddling a $4,000 raceal bike, he hit her, he is now brain dead and he has admitted. his name is jason marshall, he has not been charged yet, but there's a question as to whether the light was red or not. i think maybe it's time for the park to make drastic action and eliminate the bikes in the park. >> they literally try to run you down. >> i want to thank rob port for the information on fracking, that's where i found it. but first or last -- i hate these people. >> all right, take a look at this video, it's absolutely disgusting. this poor little rat. stuck on an endless run on a rubber handrail and you see behind him, you can see the crowd there, they're just watching, they're not trying to help the rat. that's us on this earth. that's life, people. and we need help. >> and with that, have a great weekend. is president obama building a coalition of the unwilling? 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breaking news, trump on top. donald trump with a commanding lead over his republican rivals in iowa. that's according to a new c cnn poll just released. an eight point lead. ben carson is seeing a big bump now in second place with 14%. former gop frontrunner in iowa, scott walker, he is down to third. moments after the polls released, donald trump claimed right here on cnn he was just that. >> i'm honored. i'm honored by your call and 22%, that's a big number. that's a really big number. it's a great honor. >> as for the democrats, hillary clinton is standing strong in iowa with a 19 point lead over sanders. jeff zeleny is "outfront" with us tonight. first to the republicans. trump is dominating almost across the board. >> reporter: he is without a doubt. we heard he is honored by the results. there's no questioning them, kate. he is in full command of this republican field in iowa, at least for now. his support extends across the board. that's why this is so interesting. with strong perceptions he would do the best job on several top issues. he is on top of the poll on illegal immigration and terrorism. this isn't necessarily surprising. his lead is so big that in the small specific issue areas, he is expected to hold more of a lead overall. in this crowded field, it's significant. he is the most electable in the field in a general election. i found that to be one of the more surprising things when you talk to republican activists and establishment leaders, most say he couldn't win a general election. that's not what iowa republicans are saying. it's important to point out this point. two-thirds of iowa republicans said they are still trying to make up their minds and they could easily change their mind in the coming months. >> still keep having to remind ourselves, it's still early. though we have been in it for quite some time at this point. there does seem to be one big sign of weakness for trump in this poll. late it out for us. >> reporter: it is. that's the gender gap. perhaps not surprisingly here, he is the choice of 27% of men but only 15% of women. the gender gap is very critical in a general election. democrats win again and again because of that. it's not quite as important in a republican primary. but it's still one potential sign of weakness. kate, one other thing that caught my eye as i was reading the poll this afternoon. on the area of which candidate represents the values of republicans, there's no clear leader on this. trump is right in the center of the rest of this very crowded field. values, of course, are key to all republican voters, certainly those evangelicals in iowa. >> absolutely, jeff. great to see you. thank you so much. "outfront" tonight, former deputy campaign manager for mitt romney, katie packer-gauge. also david gergen. and andy dean, a trump supporter who has worked for trump for seven years. great to see all of you. andy, trump no doubt loves these polls oh, so very much. they also show a very big gender gap, as jeff zeleny was pointing out. a sign of weakness. you need women to win. how big of a liability is this? >> well, first, if we take a step back and look at the numbers, it's excellent new for donald trump. ben carson in second place. the american public do not want a career politician. you are talking about almost half the electoral. if you look at voters who made up their minds, they go strongly for trump and carson. that's a good sign. as far as the women vote, that's to be expected. carson is at 20%. that's because he has been taking a pounding in the media. as that works itself out, i think you will see trulmp to th top. >> it's the media's fault. it is the truth right now, he is dominating in iowa. he is the top pick for the candidate with the best chance to win in the general. nothing seems to leave a mark on this guy. what is it going to take for the other republicans to knock him off the top? >> there's a difference between being the easiest candidate to beat -- or the strongest candidate in the general and being perceived by iowa caucus goers as the strongest candidate in the general. the reality is with all due respect to cnn news, this isn't really news. this is where he was a week ago. roughly 20% to 25% of republican primary voters, we have seen that nationally. i have maintained, i don't think that's going to change. i think it's a ceiling. he enjoys 100% -- nearly 100% awareness. all of the other candidates are just getting known. the reality is, if you look at the numbers, 78% of republican caucus goers in iowa are saying, no thanks. they have all the information about donald trump. they're saying they are not that interested. i think the gender gap is an issue. the reason it's not typically an issue in republican primaries is because there isn't this much disparity. it's unusual to see a ten point difference between two republican candidates or a handful of candidates. i think that this is really an issue for donald trump. he maybe has taken a beating to some degree but he had 24-hour news coverage on him. cnn has been the trump network for the last several weeks. he is enjoying more limelight. >> i think there are a few people that would dispute this is the trump network. >> starting with donald trump. >> it's a lot of coverage on him. >> he is the frontrunner. >> i will say one thing. katie packard just said trump has between 20% to 25% of the vote. it's not breaking news. it is breaking news. it shows the american people feel like he won the debate. >> it was news on nbc on sunday. it's not new. it has been consistent. >> show some manners for the love of god. i know in the romney camp they don't show manners. he is running against 15 other people. if you ask people who their second choice is, it's donald trump. that shows a lot. >> ding, ding. pause in the fighting for one second. david, get in on this. trump is leading on these key issues. he is not only topping in the big number. on the economy, on immigration, even on terrorism. this all -- he is leading on this without laying out specifics on these issues. how do you explain it? >> i think we're in times of turbulence and for many people it's a time of uncertainty. they're looking for a strong leader. donald trump exudes strength, masculine strength, sometimes to his detriment we have seen here with his behavior. nonetheless, i think people look for a strong leader. they are more willing to follow them. if we were in a time of contentment, you wouldn't see him leading. the bigger news to me out of this poll tonight is that it may be early but angry voters are on the march. the candidates who are doing the best are the anti establishment candidates. three in iowa, starting with donald trump but ben carson, a rise and car lly fiorina. sanders leads maybe, small gap over hillary clinton. walker, the governor, the establishment, went down in iowa. he was expected to win this thing in iowa. now he looks like he is struggling. jeb bush at 5% in iowa? that's a tough go. >> it's a tough go. on these issues, andy, i have to ask you. tr trump says the specifics are coming. he is afraid to go specific? don't voters deserve the details? >> kate, i just reject the premise of the question, because if you look at donald trump last night, he spoke for half an hour about the issues. during the debate, he wanted to talk about the issues. it was megyn kelly who brought up side issues. >> on the immigration issue, he talks about the wall. when you ask how are you going to get them to pay, he says, trust me. that's a -- >> last night on fox news he said, look, in trade negotiations, if i have to, will slap a tariff on mexico. he has been very tough on mex o mexico. look what china did a couple days ago. they devalued their currency which hurts our manufacturers and allows china to dump in cheap goods. he is very specific. >> do we know what he would do with the iranian agreement? do we know what he would do in syria? what's his policy in syria? >> absolutely. >> the israelis and the palestinians -- >> if i may -- >> i have heard more detail from andy tonight than from trump. >> he is clear about isis. bomb the oil fields. as for iran, rip up the agreement. he has been -- >> what does he want to do? what does he want instead? the best -- >> i can tell you. look, how was the iraqi program destroyed? syria, 2007, how was that destroyed? thank god the israelis destroyed it. we need to let the israelis take care of business. it's as simple as that. >> what i hear you, his position on iran is tear up the agreement and get the israelis to bomb? is that what you are saying? >> no. i am not donald trump. donald trump's position is he should tear up the problem. >> we hear tear up the agreement, but we don't hear specifics. here is a problem for the other republicans. katie, voters don't seem to care at this point. trump has this amazing way of turning a negative, not going specific, into a positive for him. here is another example. i have to get your take on this. he points out at every turn how rich he is, at every possible opportunity. for all of you out there, if you have been living under a rock, just listen. >> here is good news. i'm very rich. i don't have anybody giving me money. i'm the most successful person to run. i'm much richer than people thought. i'm not doing that to brag. i don't have to brag. believe it or not. >> he said he has a store that is worth more than mitt romney. he does have billions more. why then is mitt romney's -- was mitt romney's wealth a liability? trump has been able to make it his biggest asset. isn't there something to learn there? >> i done think it was his wealth. i think it was the way the democrats portrayed him and the way he accumulated his wealth. the democrats would do the same thing to donald trump if he came under that kind of scrutiny as the nominee. which i again will reiterate, i do not think is going to happen. i don't tli ithink it's the wea that's a liability. i think what is a liability is this breaux haveovado that is a to women. in a general election, it's a bigger problem. people want to point to it as this great success. i would remind people, mitt romney did win the nomination. so far, donald trump has been able to get 22% of the vote. if he wins the nomination, then he can give advice on whether or not bragging on your wealth is a great political strategy. >> we have more time to go. iowa polls just out. david, katie, andy, thank you so much. great to see you all. 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"outfront" tonight, ana navarro and jeb bush supporter and brad woodhouse, the president of correct the record. great to see you. brad, jeff laid it out well. clinton is ahead in iowa, but she can not seem to tamp down sanders' appeal. he pulled ahead in new hampshire. should the clinton campaign be raising at lae ining the alarm? >> every campaign should run like they are ten points behind. we have said they expect this to be a competitive primary. i don't think anyone should be surprised that the senator from next door in new hampshire -- next door in vermont is running well in new hampshire. i do think you have to look at more than one pole, the aggregate of the polls in new hampshire have hillary clinton ahead. a 19-point lead in iowa is pretty significant. not to mention, she has deep support among democratic constituencies across the country, far more support than any of her rivals. >> they are not concerned one bit about -- >> i didn't say that. >> i'm kidding. jeb bush is facing trouble in the polls as well. he has dropped from the top five in our new poll. is that all because of the debate, do you think? >> i think it had a lot do with it. i think it's what we have seen in the past where debate performances can make polls fluctuate points enormously. i would tell you that carly fiorina's surge is about the debates. people got to see her. her name i.d. went up. the debate had a lot do with it. we will see more poll fluctuations in the republican side, particularly as the field goes winding down and whittling down. i think hillary clinton's bigger problem is she's got joe biden on a family vacation this week who is probably reading all about her e-mail issues and is deciding and mulling over with his family and taking their counsel on whether he should run. if joe biden runs, he will take a huge chunk out of her, particularly out of her piece of the pie. >> brad, is that a consider? are you looking at that? >> look, you know, vice president biden will make his own decision. we have always said this would be a competitive primary. i think -- look at all of the focus. every republican at the debate, 32 types mentioned hill cry c e clinton. the entire focus is on hillary clinton. she's beating every republican. she's winning in iowa. she's winning across the country. given all the slings and arrows, she's in good shape. >> one person who is definitely going on the at tack -- >> she's not beating every republican in polls in the swing states. >> she was winning in every single state against every single republican they polled. >> it's so funny. we like the polls when we're on top and we don't pay attention to the polls when we're not. it's amazing. >> isn't it funny how it works that way? >> i think there must be something to it. ana, let me ask you this. one republican is jeb bush who has been on the attack on hillary clinton, especially when he was laying out in his big foreign policy speech. he was attacking her on iraq. this is something we have discussed. he stumbled over the iraq issue multiple times. why is he going there? is he just -- does he risk reminders of what could be his greatest vulnerability, his last name? >> i think every time that hillary clinton and jeb bush are duking it out over policy, it's good for american voters, because they get to see a stark contrast. it's frankly good for jeb bush and for hillary clinton. i think she would rather be duking it out with jeb on policy than having to give explanations about her e-mails being investigated by the department of justice. jeb needs to do this. why? because we face a huge threat from radical islam. anybody running for president, frafr frankly, should be laying out specifics and a plan, a strategy, something that this administration by their own admission has not had on how we are going to defeat what is an enormous threat to our country. >> a lot of people would welcome more specifics than less, except i've been seeing that a lot of voters don't seem to care about that. brad, ana, great to see you. "outfront" next, inmates charge that guards tried to beat information out of them to find out about the escape of two killers from a new york prison. are they telling the truth? breaking news, this huge, huge fireball has killed at least 17 people. ahead, why firefighters are struggling to bring it under control still. ♪ hp instant ink can save you up to 50% on ink delivered to your door, so print all you want and never run out. plans start at $2.99 a month. right now, buy an eligible printer, and get three months of free ink with hp instant ink. available at participating retailers. the most affordable way to print. hp instant ink. happens at the water's edge. here, they must look their best. smooth, beautiful skin is an advantage. the others can only hide in shame. introducing the new dr. scholl's dreamwalk express pedi. another day shackled by wires. how long do we have to keep untangling for just a little taste of power? who knew charging could be so... draining? you can keep plugging away... or, you can change the way you charge. the samsung galaxy s6 and s6 edge, with built-in wireless charging capabilities. tonight, shocking claims of abuse during the desperate hunt for two escaped convicts in upstate new york. inmates at the clinton correctional facility say they were beaten and placed in solitary confinement hours after richard matt and david sweat slipped out of the prison. "the new york times" first reported that guards even threatened to water board one prisoner during the interrogations. an investigation is under way to determine what really took place. miguel marquez is "outfront" tonight. cnn spoke to one of the prisoners who claims he was abused. what did he say? >> reporter: also in the honor ward with matt and sweat. he has been transferred to sing sing. he says he was roughed up in his cell. he was transferred without any cause whatsoever. while he was transferred, his ankles were shackled so tightly that it left bruises to this day. the producer who went to speak to him saw the bruises on his ankles. he was kept in solitary confinement for up to two weeks. he has filed a"the new york timn inmate next to matt. he said he was put into a broom closet. he claims a plastic bag was put over his head, they beat him, they threatened to water board him. he says the governor, when he went on the tour, walked up to his cell and said to alexander, i bet you heard a lot of sawing last night, didn't you, and gave him his best tough guy stare and then the governor walked off. all of this says the prison services of new york that is hearing the complaints says there are so many complaints out there and so many of them are of similar nature, it's worrisome. >> they are racking up, 70-plus at this point have been filed. what do prison officials say? >> reporter: the union -- the corrections union calls these one-sided complaints by convictconvict ed felons. these are allegations and says they are cooperating with the official investigation and doesn't want to take the concerns of convicted felons basically into account. they call it misinformation. the new york state department of corrections says there is an investigation being done. it has been referred to the inspector general of new york state. if it is found that guards abused any prisoners, they will be punished to the full extent of the law. >> miguel, thank you so much. "outfront" with us now, eric jensen, he served time with the escaped prisoners. also with us, jeff dumos, a former sergeant at clinton correctional facility. eric, you heard what miguel was laying out. you have inmates who are claiming they were not only abused, they were placed in son teary confinement. "the new york times" reports that one inmate said guards put a plastic bag over his head. do you believe it? >> from what i have seen in my experiences, i don't think it's too far from the truth. i do believe that these things do happen. now that clinton is in the spotlight and that people are beginning to speak out, the world is listening, because they want to know what goes on insides these places. >> did you ever see any retaliation like this yourself? >> i have seen many, many forms of retaliation, but i have never seen them put a plastic bag over anybody's head or use anything to choke them out, a windbreaker. i did see them check people out with their arms, their hands. they beat them up. they sent them to their cell, put them in solitary confinement because they want wounds to heal before they release them into the population. >> it's interesting, jeff, i heard a similar story what eric is saying, a heard a similar story from an inmate earlier today. what do you make of it? >> typically, what i think of this is that because the spotlight is now on clinton correctional facility, any inmate that has any type of grudge can now voice whatever he wants to and somebody is going to listen to him. these guys said -- actually, inmate jensen -- former inmate jensen across from you, he stated that early they're joyce mitchell had sexual relations with inmate matt or sweat in a broom closet. that was found to be untrue because there are no broom closets for security reasons. these guys that have been sitting in their cells for 20 something days watching tv have come up with the story of the broom closet. they said that people from ciu with the blue windbreakers came in and intear gated them, did whatever. but if you look at the new york daily news i believe, they had the front cover because ciu was used for delivering water and food and supplies to the certain members that were out in the field. they were not allowed in the facility. >> hold on one second. >> the interrogation -- >> answer to jeff. >> i have never said they had sex in a broom closet. there's a terrible room in the shop which i'm sure you are familiar with. if the allegations were true or not, they asked my opinion on that subject. i gave it to them honestly. it was the opinion of the shop at that point when we were in there working. allegations that are coming out, of course, people are going to speak up now. because they can be heard. when they couldn't -- when they didn't have a voice and nobody would listen and code of silence kept them silent in the walls, their screams were still coming out but nobody was listening. >> this speaks to -- jeff speaks to what we have heard from the guards union, that they say -- they point out that this information, these claims are coming from less than reliable sources is what they are saying. >> a human being is a less than reliable source. if it came from on other side of the world, it would be a reliable source. we all make mistakes. i'm a convicted felon. it doesn't mean everything i say is a lie. i do to some point maybe there is some exaggeration and embellishments from some inmates. in a consensus, i believe that some of these allegations did happen. >> when it comes down to it, it's an inmate's world againd a the guards. >> to a point. like what i was saying, you know, they implicated ciu. ciu wasn't there because it's been photographed, videotaped. the only people that were doing the interrogations were the new york state police and the interribi internal affairs. you have video proof. you have photo proof. then you have two separate entities separate than the facility doing the investigations. any time an inmate is injured, like these guys claimed that they were left in their cell, they didn't seek medical attention. any time that a convict says, i have injuries, i have been roughed up by staff, immediately he is brought up to medical and photograph are taken, front, rear, left side, right side. then we take individual pictures of any injury that he says he has on his body, whether there's one mark or 100, we take pictures of every single body part. there's proof everywhere you go. we have to cover our job. we have to cover ourselves. all the photographs are taken. documentation is there. with all those people in the jail, the governor was there by 11:00 a.m., you had the state police, ig and the fbi in there. you are telling these guys are trying to say that with all those entities, all those higher up people that they're getting beat up? i just -- i don't believe it. i think it's for money. >> we can see clearly here the mistrust and the challenge now that investigators have to weed through this. eric, jeff, thank you. 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>> paul may not want donald trump in the republican primary would a trump third party run be even worse for the gop. he keeps threatening it, will he do it. tom foreman is out front with tonight's money and power. >> reporter: of all the headline grabbing moments at the gop debate, nine word by donald trump may be all that really matters. his answer to the question. will you rule out running as an independent? >> you are not going to make the pledge? >> i will not make the pledge at this time. >> all right. >> essentially with this threat he is saying to the republican party, you know, it's -- a nice little party you have got there. it would be a shame to see something happen to tip. >> reporter: there are several factors to kid if an independent trump appears. first the votes. in the past five presidential elections the average margin of victory in the popular vote has been 4.5%. any independent who siphons off just that much could make a difference. and it has happened. >> i would only run -- >> reporter: in 1992, billionaire businessman, ross perot captured 19% of the vote. politicos argue over how that affected clinton's win over bush. but trump made his thoughts clear. i think every single vote that went to ross perot came from bush. second, the money. barack obama, mitt romney and their supporters spent close to $1 billion in 2012. so trump without a party behind him might have to pony up close to a half billion. as point of reference. perot spent $108 million inflation adjusted dollars remember he lost. and then there is election law. ohio for example has what is called a sore loser law. meaning a candidate who runs for a party's nomination and loses cannot then run as an independent in the general election. so officials there have already ruled. from is either a republican or he's off the ballot. all of that suggests if trump gives of on his hope of becoming the republican nominee and goes independent, he is almost ser tser -- certain to lose. but could be a factor shaping the election, pushing issues and deciding who wins. kate? >> he sure can. out front for us tonight. sal russo, political director for ross perot's historic third party presidential run. sal, thank you for coming in. you know third party runs. and you know donald trump. can he pull it off? >> i don't think so. i don't think he is going to attempt it. he is a smart businessman. the prospects for a third party are remote. i think he sees himself as leading the polls as a republican he is going to give it his best shot. if he makes it he makes it. if he doesn't he doesn't ac. a third party is doomed to failure. donald trump doesn't like failure. i've don't see him going that direction. >> that is true, sal. ross perot's bid was the most successful third party bid. trump has more money. why wouldn't he be just as successful or more so, what is it? >> he talked about running for president. i first heard it back in 1984 when heap was was at the repub convention in dallas. something on his mind the he shares the frustration so many americans. things aren't working in washington. his add ages, let's give it a shot. he captured the americans attention. leading in all the polls. ross perot was leading in 49 states in the general election when he first got into the race. there is some opportunities out there. just a difficult path. but right now, his focus has to be on trying to win republican primaries and, republican caucuses. i think that's what he is going to focus on. >> sal, thank you. great to see you. >> you bet. thank you. >> coming up next, jeanne moos with the midair collision between an eagle and a drone. here's the hint. the drone lost. with nutritious energy and strength. i'll take that. yeeeeeah! new ensure active high protein. 16 grams of protein and 23 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in. a new sea chance to tryew look. something different. this summer, challenge your preconceptions and experience a cadillac for yourself. ♪ the 2015 cadillac srx. lease this from around $339 per month, or purchase with 0% apr financing. but it is not the device that is mobile, it is you. real madrid have about 450 million fans. we're trying to give them all the feeling of being at the stadium. the microsoft cloud gives us the scalability to communicate exactly the content that people want to see. it will help people connect to their passion of living real madrid. happens at the water's edge. here, they must look their best. smooth, beautiful skin is an advantage. the others can only hide in shame. introducing the new dr. scholl's dreamwalk express pedi. small job? 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it's enough to make a gator glare and a ram wonder. does that thing bite? the latest confrontation pitted an eagle against a drone. the eagle used its talons to knock the drone out of the sky. the videographer wrote "this is the last thing a small bird sees when a wedge tailed eagle decide you are dinner. "the eagle said to be uninjured. the drone operator had some advice for his fellow pilots. if you see a bird of prey while flying, land. the same could be said if you see a chimp waving a branch at a zoo in the netherlands. tushie demolished a $2,000 drone and she and her friend had their mug shots taken as they examined the debris. who need a stick when you have got horns. a new zealand ram, named rambro, head butted a drone. then went after the guy who came to retrieve it. >> move out. >> reporter: at a zoo in naples, florida, an agitated alligator could do nothing but lunge. while elsewhere in florida, a swarm of bees engaged in aerial combat. with a tv news drone. >> when you see the video it looked like "star wars." >> even landing. >> he is sitting there trying to sting the lens. >> reporter: for a pair of weeping labs the drone was nothing but an expensive dog toy, a frisbee with blade. perhaps the most futile effort to down a drone, a golfer missed by a mile when he threw his club. that doesn't count as a birdie. but this does. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> "ac 360" starts right now. good evening. thank you for joining us. tonight the first cnn polling on the first big test in the 2016 presidential campaign winning iowa. there is new polling as well on the second challenge winning new hampshire. two big takeaways, nothing it seems can hurt donald trump in the eyes of republican voters. if they see you as a political insider, well right now you are in big trouble. outsiders whether donald trump, ben carson, or carly fiorina they're clearly in. that hold true to some degree over on the democratic side where vermont senator bernie sanders took his first polling lead over hillary

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this is a server that was in her home is she durning over anything helelse? >> it was in chappaqua, new york, when she was first becoming secretary of state. her advisors said she should have a private e-mail server. so she's turning that over and she's turned over a flash drive that has copies of all these other e-mails she had. this is something her attorney has been holding on to. it's something that have been so reluctant to surrender. we saw her say at the u.n. at this press conference in march 10, we both were there and she said "i am not turning over this private server." well, a lot has happened since then which led us to this point right now. >> we may not know the answer, i'm curious. are these pdfs on these flash drives or the actual e-mails? we're not sure, right? >> sounds like they are copies of e-mails. we have both waded through these copies that they've released bit by bit. >> so you have this e-mail controversy that's been following her throughout this campaign especially when potential voters are asked about trust. we've seen that, now she's trailing bernie sanders in new hampshire. sanders sits at 44%, clinton at 3% in this franklin pierce university and "boston herald" poll. how much do you think politics is playing into this decision to turn over the server? >> i think at least somewhat. there's no question the clinton campaign miscalculated how big of an issue this would be. is her trust and credibility numbers have fallen since she got into the race. that's been helped along by so much criticism of this. republicans have been piling on without a doubt but their refusal to cooperate with these things has played a role in this. so the clinton campaign says they are turning this over now because the justice department asked them to and they're more comfortable giving it to the justice department and fbi rather than one of these house committees controlled by republicans. the thing at issue here is the feds want to look at this server to see how it was protected, how it was secured if anyone could have breached it at any point but more importantly as well the inspector general of the intelligence community says that two of these e-mails at least were top secret. they weren't at the time. >> the highest classification, right? >> the highest classification of anything in the intelligence community so now they're labelled top secret. her defense is it was not classified at the time, just became top secret after the fact. but that's one issue will stick with her and it will ensure that this goes on and on and on throughout certainly the fall and i would guess into next year. >> thanks for breaking that down, jeff, very helpful, jeff zeleny for us. let's look at a monmouth university poll onner, the mail issue. 38% say hillary clinton has something to hide. look at the breakdown by party affiliation. 68% are republicans and 41% of independents but only 8% of democrats who think there is something to hide. that is a considerable difference. the e-mails are connected to the investigation into benghazi. earlier i spoke with congressman trey gowdy, the chairman of the house select committee on benghazi. >> chairman gowdy, i want to get your reaction to the decision by the former secretary of state hillary clinton to turn over her private e-mail server to the justice department. what do you think about this? >> about damn time was my initial reaction. we asked her in march to turn that server over to a neutral detached independent arbitor like the inspector general. i can't help but smile at the notion somebody is voluntarily turning something over to the fbi. they generally don't ask. they generally tell you to do so and i doubt very seriously that they asked her to turn her server over. if they have jurisdiction, they don't need to ask, they go get it. >> hillary clinton this week certified under penalty of perjury that she has turned over all of the e-mails related to her time at the state department do you take her at that word? >> well, i read that statement and it's easier to read egyptian hieroglyphics than it is to parse the words that her lawyer wrote in that statement. wherever you see the frayed "on information and belief" that should be a blinking red light for you to be suspicious of it. >> what do you mean that? on information and belief she believes this to be true. so explain to me -- with the legal perspective here, explain your concerns about that. >> i'll be happy to. did she go through the e-mails? of the 60,000 e-mails did she go through each one of them and separate them personal versus public record? no? her attorney did it. her attorney who has a fiduciary and ethical obligation to her, not the taxpayer, not the public but to her. so how in the world can she aver that the public record is complete when she herself did not go through and look at each one of those e-mails. we found 15 that she did not turn over to the state department so we know for a fact that that statement is not correct. remember the 15, the nine in whole and the six in part that sidney blumenthal gave to us that the state department never had? where are those? how did her lawyer miss those 15? so no i don't believe the statement. but statement wasn't to me, it was to a federal judge and i'll let him or her handle that. >> we've seen certainly some of the requests go from benghazi. there seems to be a concern about libya in general beginning with the invasion by the u.s. and its allies. is it committee expanding its purpose to include clinton's e-mail practices or just as they pertain to other issues you're interested in? >> just as it pertains to making sure the public record is complete with report to libya and benghazi. i have no jurisdiction over low li -- bolivia, i'm not interested in bridesmaids dresses or yoga routines. it's not my business and it's not my jurisdiction. but i am entitle to every document that relates to libya and benghazi and what our policy was in libya and whether anti-western sentiment contributed to the attack or a spontaneous reaction to a video as we were told at one point. i'm entitled to all those records and how in the world we can be assured that the public record is complete given this e-mail arrangement she had with herself, as curious as it was, that's going to be the challenge. >> i asked you that because a lot of democrats who support hillary clinton look at the committee and they say there's been mission creep on the goal of your committee. what do you say to that? >> i would say they need to look no further than their own putative 2016 candidate. i didn't advise her to have her own server or to rely on sidney blumenthal as her primary adviser on libya. i didn't advise her to keep her public records for 20 months after she separated from service and not turn them over to the department of state. i didn't advise her to say the record is complete and we find 15 e-mails where they weren't and i didn't advise her to say there's to classified information on the server when we know now that there was classified information on the server. so i get they're frustrated. i get they're disappointed her polling numbers are almost adds low as congress's but they need to look no further than her. they don't need to blame the republicans in the house. we're doing what we were supposed to do and i hasten to add, those other committees that looked at benghazi, not a single damn one of them figured out she had this e-mail arrangement with herself. so those investigations must not have been as thorough as we were led to believe. >> are you casting doubt on the findings, then? the other committees that found no issue with benghazi or certainly no coverup? >> give me a finding. those are two separate things. give me a finding you think a previous committee found and tell me whether or not they talked to every eyewitness who would have access to information. i can tell you they didn't. we have talked to 34 witnesses who have firsthand knowledge that no other committee talked to. so how in the world could the previous informations be complete when you're not talking to eyewitnesses, you're not accessing the documents and you haven't even bothered to talk to the secretary of state who was in charge at the time. how that is a complete thorough investigation into benghazi it would be laughed out of court and it ought to be laughed out of the court of public opinion. >> but you're raising questions about republican findings, too, right? >> that just proves how bipartisan i am, brianna. yes. republicans can run slip shot investigations just like anyone else can. >> trey gowdy there. we talked to him earlier. coming up, we'll get reaction to that from a hillary clinton supporter. why did she choose to turn over her server now? 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>> first of all you have to look at where chairman gowdy is coming from. he's chair of a committee that is the seventh or eighth -- >> but did she turn it over voluntarily or compelled to? >> she did turn it over voluntarily. >> she wasn't compelled? >> no, it's consistent what she's done since this issue came to light when she went to the state department and asked for her e-mails to be made public, something unprecedented in the history of senior cabinet officials. >> she had set before the server will remain private. now she's turning over the server. >> i think what happened when you see this bureaucratic wrangling between the state department and the inspector general at the -- for the intelligence community who said some of these e-mails might be classified, something which we don't know is true yet, the justice department had the responsibility, they were kind of jammed, i think, a little bit. >> but hasn't the inspector general for the intel community said that one of these e-mails -- didn't he tell congress one of the e-mails was classified at the time, may have been declassifiedeclassified. doesn't what run counter what she she said? >> i think anyone who works in the state department will tell you the intelligence community for all the good they do have a long history of claiming things are classified that aren't necessarily classified. they'll often tell you things you've read in the paper a week ago are still classified. it's not unusual for them to do this and the state department says they don't agree the information in these e-mails was classified. >> so i've heard this before, this argument about overclassification for sure. this is something that is discuss discussed the issue of these e-mails being top secret, is the argument that these were deemed top secret after they were sent or received? >> well, what we know, secretary clinton has said she never sent or received any e-mail that was marked secret, top secret, confidential, classified in any way at time. there's been no information to the contrary. now the inspector general has come back and said after the fact that this information was classified. but the state department disagrees with that. if you remember what happened when the senate -- the intelligence committee report was released, it took a year of wrangling between the intelligence community and the committee over what ought to be classified. so this is -- falls in line with what the intelligence community has long done. >> we see a new monmouth university poll that says 52% of americans think hillary clinton's e-mails should be the subject of a criminal investigation. this is a problem for the campaign and people who support hillary clinton. >> well, first of all, i worked at the justice department, the justice department doesn't make investigative decisions based on polls or what partisan members of congress say. >> but you have a plit l a background as well so i'm asking you about the politics of this. >> as people look more at this and see things like the interrue you just had with chairman gowdy really going overboard, demanding -- going far beyond the scope of his original investigation, turning it into a full witch-hunt, they'll see this for what it is, which is something blown out of proportion and pursued by republicans as a partisan agenda. >> so are there questions merited about the e-mail practice? >> of course. and i think the press has been right to ask those questions. i think some of it has been blown out of proportion but she answers those questions and continues to answer that. she is making voluntarily those e-mails public. something that is unprecedented. i don't think you could go back and find another cabinet secretary of either administration, either state, treasury, attorneys general who have volunteered to release their e-mails and i doubt any of the republicans who hold office would voluntarily release any of their e-mails. >> matt miller, appreciate it. still ahead, world markets in turmoil. the shock move by china that has stocks in a triple digit tumble. plus what it means for your bottom line. we have that next. n. aveeno® naturally beautiful results®. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. 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that will reduce the opportunity for exports going to china. of course it will greatly increase the opportunity in the opposite direction so chinese imports -- chinese exports to the rest of the world look that much better. but there's something else going on here, brianna, it's too simplistic, just to simply say this is about trade imports and exports. what's behind it is the chinese determination to get to grips, manipulate, whatever you want to call it their economy to put it back on to a former footing. they say to do this they need to make the yuan more realistically valued. that's what this does. >> what can you tell us about the u.s. companies that have been particularly is hard hit by this. >> it's fascinating. although you have the obvious candidates, you do have the bowings of this world that sell huge amounts into china. the other side, let's taken a apple. apple is a fascinating example. it goes both ways because obviously its source is in china, it exports from china therefore it should benefit to some extent from this currency devaluation with. but it also sends products back into china. so it's on both sides of the equation and when you see that sort of scenario you really are left with just simply saying uncertainty. we know the stock market's in trouble. we know there's property problems in china. the banking community, will show what's happening and they will save 7%. put all this together, with the moves we've just seen and you have investors saying we're not sure. >> well, some observers are talking about a currency war. do you think that's real? >> well, wherever a large trader devalues it's called a beggar thy neighbor policy and it works purely and simply. that's why not many countries do it because it really is a race to the bottom. and we're seeing it with australia new zealand columbia, brazil, you'll see all these other countries wonder whether they should let their currencies depreciate because they have such business with china. it's a very dangerous road a start down. one final point to make here, though, is whilst the doctor has devalued -- remember, currency is a frighteningly complicated stuff when you look at it at a global scale. while the dollar has devalued, the euro has gone up against the chinese currency. so you have these two massive trading partners absolutely at loggerheads and that's where you worry about a currency war. >> you're the best richard, thanks for breaking it down and to keep up with the work markets head to cnn money.com. still ahead, jeb bush's speech on iraq and isis. he took swings at president obama and hillary clinton and he barely mentioned his own brother. is that strategy going to work? plus, sensitivity to light and sound. excedrin migraine. wow, that was fast. yothat's lactaid®.k! right. 100% real milk, just without the lactose. so, no discomfort? exactly. try some... mmm, it is real milk. lactaid®. 100% real milk. no discomfort. you premium like clockwork. month after 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troops with iraqi forces. he says pulling u.s. forces out of iraq gave isis an opening. >> that premature withdrawal was the fatal error, creating the void that isis moved in to fill and that iran has exploited to the full as well. isis grew while the united states disengaged from the middle east and ignored the threat. and where was the secretary of state? where was secretary of state clinton in all of this? like the president himself, she had opposed the surge then joined in claiming credit for its success. then stood by as that hard-won victory by american and allied forces was thrown away. in all of her record-setting travels she stopped by iraq exactly once. >> let's bring in cnn senior political analyst david gergen and cnn political commentator and bush supporter ana navarro. so, david, this was a big speech. jeb bush's first major foreign policy speech of his campaign. how effective was it. >> it's getting lost in the stories but i think it's an important speech. it's being seen through a political lens ultimately. we'll look at it more substantive purposes. but politically there are two things that were smart about it. one, he picked a fight hillary clinton and not donald trump. there have been arguing that people on the republican side ought to go after trump. this was much smarter because you go after trump, it doesn't work for anybody, you keep him in the center of the story. this puts bush back in the center of the story. secondly the republicans are doing everything they can to undermine hillary clinton's chief claim to the white house and that is her time as secretary of state and, of course, the e-mail server story is playing right into the republicans' hands on that. that being said there's a considerable question among a lot of voters about -- excuse me? you're going to take on the iraq war and only blame president obama for how he got out of it? i think there are -- among foreign policy experts there is a lot of thinking that jeb bush is basically right on holding obama partly to blame but should not then give a free pass to his brother who actually got us into the war. and that's, i think -- that's where i think he's playing with fire. >> ana, both the obama administration and the clinton campaign reject this idea that they're responsible for the rise of isis. not surprisingly you have clinton's top policy advisor who says "this is a pretty bold attempt to rewrite history and reassign responsibility." and in a briefing back in may josh earnist said "we know isil was an outgrowth of al qaeda in iraq that did not exist prior to the fateful decision made by the previous administration to launch an invasion of that country and that is also a relevant fact." how tricky is this if jeb bush given his brother's decision to invade iraq and what you just heard david say there? >> well, look, i think it's tricky for jeb bush but i also think it's tricky for hillary clinton. the bottom line is that while jeb bush was governor of the state of florida and dealing with things like manatees and citrus kacanker, she was a u.s. senator who had access and saw the intelligence and heard classified reports on this issue and who voted for the war in iraq. so it's a tricky issue for both. it's smart for jeb to lead and be proactive bringing it up because it's going to come up. it's going to be part of this campaign. we've already seen it play a big role in some interviews. i think it makes sense for what was an important line in that speech which said rushing out of danger is just as bad as rushing into danger. i think that was an acknowledgment that both things were bad but what's getting lost in this blame game is the fact that he laid out specific proposals for how to deal with isis, how to deal with syria sand thank god for that. thank god that somebody is talking about the serious issues affecting the united states and our national security and we're not talking about the daily episode of the political mellow dr drama telenovella going on as the trump turns. >> david, some of those specific policies that he outlined for defeating isis, some of them are things the obama administration is already doing. do you think jeb bush drew enough distinction here between him and president obama/hillary clinton? >> well, i do. and i think he ought to avoid trying to make extreme changes in policy that will only give -- i think this was a more muscular speech than we have seen and a more muscular set of policies than we've seen from the obama administration about how to handle isis. and to integrate our special forces much more into the iraqi forces, take the fight to the enemy, no-fly zone in syria would be new. there are several things here that would go beyond where the administration has been and some of them -- hillary clinton was on the side as secretary of state of really beefing up our effort in syria and here's jeb bush coming along saying "well, we want to go beyond where obama has been." but i want to go back to the central political problem. there is such a thing -- there's a saying in leadership, when you have a problem, put a lantern on your problem. andn what that means is knowing that you have a problem as he done with iraq and his brother, fit a light on it, try to take a liability and turn it into an asset. on that point i think ana's got -- he's trying to take what could be a serious liability and turn it against hillary clinton if he can. we'll have to see if he gets away with it. i will tell you, the initial reaction of most people is going to be okay, it's fair to go after clinton but if you'll be honest you have to acknowledge your brother made mistakes. >> david gergen, ana navarro, thanks so much for that conversation. and for the latest in politics and all the presidential contenders check out cnnpolitics.com. ment. coming up, what's behind the massive appeal of bernie sanders and donald trump? will huge crowds and strong polls actually translate into votes? 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political spectrum but donald trump and bernie sanders are defying expectations in the polls. sanders leads hillary clinton in a new poll from new hampshire. trump is at the top of the republican field in national polls. not surprisingly he took aim after a sanders rally was taken over by activists. >> i would never give up my microphone. i thought that was disgusting. that showed such weakness. the way he was taken away by two young women. the microphone. they just took the whole place over. that will never happen with me. i don't know if i'll do the fighting myself or if other people will. that was a disgrace. i felt badly for him. but it showed he's weak. he's getting thes biest crowds and i'm getting the biggest crowds. we're the two getting the crowds. believe me, that won't happen to trump. >> well, let's bring in cnn politics senior reporter steven collins in and senior political reporter nia-malika henderson. nia, i mean, what do you make of these comments. >> it's hilarious. i don't know if i believe donald trump that he felt badly for bernie sanders when that black lives matter crowd -- protest movement took over his rally but sanders is attracting these huge crowds. over the last seven days it's been something like 100,000 people have shown up for these rallies. a lot of the attention and vibrancy of the democratic party is with bernie sanders. he's very much a movement candidate. he talks about taking out the billionaire class. it's sort of ironic, or maybe not, that you have this billionaire populous in donald trump and the populous on the other hand who wants to take down the billionaire class and that would be sanders. >> it's interesting. let's look at these poll numbers, they are fascinating, out of new hampshire. this is a franklin pierce university/boston "herald" poll and look at that. 44% sanders, 37% clinton and the margin of error is 4.7 points. so he's according to this poll beating her in new hampshire. this is huge. >> very interesting, new hampshire, of course, has always been a good place for the clintons. it was a firewall for them. bill clinton was the comeback kid there in '92. it was the place where hillary clinton won after she lost iowa to barack obama. >> both unexpected, kind of. >> right. having said that, if there was a place where bernie sanders could challenge hillary clinton it would be new hampshire. it's very close to vermont. he's known throughout the state. the burlington, vermont, media market bleeds over to new hampshire so he's well known. look at the demographics of new hampshire. he's -- it's on the democratic side it's an elderly perhaps older electorate, almost exclusively white. there are a lot of senior progressives there. that's exactly bernie sanders' demographic. that's why he can compete in new hampshire and may not be as much of a threat to hillary clinton in a bigger state where the electorate is more diverse, you need much more money to compete in multiple media markets. this is a sweet spot for him. >> that's right. if people expect that bernie sanders will win states, maybe new hampshire, maybe iowa. it would not make sense if hillary clinton was to run the board and win all of these states but democratic candidates haven't been able to do that. >> it didn't save her in 2008, though. she won new hampshire after being bested third place in iowa. >> but she has a different coalition now. she has the obama coalition. she's this firewall of african-american voters, that firewall of latino voters so they're very much competing for different crowds and i think they would look at a state like south carolina to see how bernie sanders would do down there. he's supposed to go down in the next couple weeks. >> maybe it doesn't matter as much as someone might think looking at new hampshire. but it would sting in you're hillary clinton. >> and especially hillary clinton is not doing as well as some people expected in iowa so if she were to lose iowa where bernie sanders has been getting good crowds and move to new hampshire it might cause a few worries and concern. >> you wrote a piece for cnn.com and asked a great question. can trump turn poll numbers into vote. i think you could ask the same question about bernie sanders. can trump turn poll numbers into votes. >> we'll see. moest pundits thought his campaign had imploded already. he's defied expectations again and again. so it's incumbent upon us to ask is donald trump for real? can he sustain this over the long term. it's six months before voters start going to the polls in iowa and new hampshire. is donald trump -- is his machinery going to be able to build a get out the vote operation, for example. is he going to need to have -- despite his vast wealth, will he raise money to do protective advertising? is he prepared to do the boring things that history shows you need to do to win an election? nobody's won the presidency using the tactics that donald trump is using right now. >> organization is the key, right? >> that's right. and that's something that hillary talks about, too, and that's what she's focused on and why she says oh, don't focus on the crowds and the media buzz. >> don't worry, i have this in iowa was her message. >> right. it's a boring thing you can see on the ground there. but you wonder, does donald trump show up to the iowa state fair and eat the fries snickers or whatever? we'll have to see. or in new hampshire, any of these states or does she just run this social media living off the land campaign and draw on his own bank account? >> we'll figure out if it works. nia, thanks so much. steven, appreciate it. republican presidential candidate john kasich has picked up a key supporter -- republican operative tom wrath joins the new hampshire campaign as senior national advisor and co-chair. he's a former gop committeeman and state attorney general. he previously backed mitt romney and he served as national advisor to george w. bush's presidential campaign. a new poll in the first in the nation primary state shows a post-debate bump in support for the ohio governor. cnn's dana bash sitting down with john kasich later today. that interview will hair in "the situation room" at 5:00 p.m. eastern. just ahead, china may be one of the world's biggest economies but it has a growing problem. we'll have a live report on the thousands of special needs children being left to fend for themselves. you premium like clockwork. month after month. year after year. then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. yeah... surprise... your insurance company tells you to pay up again. why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it? if you have liberty mutual deductible fund™, you could pay no deductible at all. sign up to immediately lower your deductible by $100. and keep lowering it $100 annually, until it's gone. then continue to earn that $100 every year. there's no limit to how much you can earn and this savings applies to every vehicle on your policy. call to learn more. switch to liberty mutual and you could save up to $509. call liberty mutual for a free quote today at see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. six people are being treated for injuries after a u.s. army helicopter made a hard landing off the coast of japan. military officials say the black hawk was trying to touchdown on the deck of the navy ship when something went wrong. the chopper's tail broke off. at the time there were 17 on bolder. all were rescued. china is home to a rapidly growing population of unwanted special needs kids. one case that attracted headlines was a baby pulled from a public toilet in beijing. that baby is out of the hospital. we're joined now live from beijing. i believe that baby was a healthy baby correct me if i'm wrong but it illuminates the issue of special needs kids being abandoned. >> exactly right. that's why we started looking into this. we wanted to know what happens next for this little baby who was left by her mother in a public toilet rescued by police and we were told she will be heading to a chinese orphanage will she will join sadly hundreds of thousands other orphans in this country who have been cast away. these are the faces of china's most vulnerable. surviving in a system overwhelmed. abandoned children like the newborn police pulled from a public toilet last week. her mother, long gone. the little girl likely becoming yet another chinese orphan. jaja's parents abandoned him outside a fertility clinic. he was 3 months old. surgery left him bar liparalyze the waist down. >> you lived here nine years. >> the oldest of 23 orphans, jaja is the big brother. no parents here. ♪ yes, jesus loves me >> only staff and volunteers like christina weaver. >> they don't deserve this kind of life. >> china's hundreds of foster homes are no longer full of healthy girls as they were at the height of the one child policy. today nearly all of china's unwanted children have disabilities. >> when i look in the their eyes i see stories, sadness and hurt. >> welfare experts say it lacks a social safety net resulting in hundreds of thousands of orphans. >> how big is this problem? >> huge. >> associate director says many parents can't afford to care for kids with special needs. >> it's very, very hard to find a family for jaja. we waited for nine years. he waited nine years. >> a family that promised to adopt him backed out. many of his friends found homes and move i away. now finally an american family is filing paperwork to adopt jaja. >> a mom, three sisters and grandparents. >> wow. that's a big family. >> the wilsons are trying to raise $36,000 in adoption costs. if i have parents he says i can live, i can have a life. jaja's new life is still likely months away. an eternity for a young boy waiting nine years for a family. suddenly no more words. only tears. pain felt by far too many children abandoned. >> it's okay. >> desperate to find parents. to have homes. to be loved. >> that's what really haunts me about this story is that jaja is not unique in china. we could have done a story about every single orphan in this foster home that would have been just as emotional. since we aired his story on cnn this is the go fund me page that his family set up after they received hundreds of e-mails from all over the world. in one day they raised $41,041. they exceeded the amount of money to cover the adoption fees and they say they're going to donate any excess funds to try to help some of the other children also find homes. >> that is so wonderful to see that, will. he's just one child and you see so many in need. i understand that there was this problem with abandoned children and chinese officials would open what they call baby hatches, places where people could turn in unwanted babies. many with these special needs. and many of them have overflowed right? there's been overcapacity? >> yeah. the chinese government started opening up these baby hatches five years ago because so many parents were leaving their children and they didn't have a place to leave them safely. so there were kids in trash bins. there was another incident in 2013 where a child was flushed down the toilet. the mother claimed it was an accident. and kids left in the streets or hospitals or in a fertility clinic. this one baby hatch that cnn profiled last year, in the first 11 days there were 106 babies, so many they had to turn parents away. what this says is that even though china has this new found warmth they don't have a welfare system in place. if they were to try to care for those kids they would be even more destitute and poverty stricken. these parents have no choice but to give their kids up. they end up in these orphanages, which is an awful situation. i'm glad worked shine a light on it and let the world know there are a lot of children here who need help and their parents and families need help to be able to keep and support them as well. >> it's such an 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kill him can only make him stronger. donald trump dominating the crowded republican pack. he has an eight-point lead in iowa. second place ben carson. former florida governor jeb bush surprisingly has dropped to seventh. >> let's be honest, trump isn't known for his humility, i guess but he expressed something kind of close to at this time when he was talking to cnn's jake tapper. listen to this. >>. >> i'm not really looking to offend people, jake. it seems to be every once in a while that will happen but i think i was mistreated a little bit but that's okay. i'm really honored. i'm honored by our call. 22%, that's a big number, a really big number. so it is a great honor. >> meantime on the democratic side, no surprises here. hillary clinton in the lead. she maintains a strong lead, 50% over her competitors and bernie sanders in second place. vice president biden is not even a candidate yet but if he does become one he has some catching up to do. he's in third place. >> these poll s are a snapshot of the 2016 race and show the candidates considered long shots are gaining popularity on established contenders. jeff zeleny looks at the spoilers and how they could affect who wins the white house. >> reporter: >> soaring summer for bernie sanders, his populous cry is catching on. >> we have a message to the billionaire class, and that message is -- you can't have it all. >> his candidacy is taking off. for the first time, a new university poll shows him with a seven-point edge over clinton. this as clinton faces new questions about the private e-mail server she used as secretary of state. she's agreed to surrender it to the justice department. it's given sanders an opening to be a potential spoiler of the 2016 campaign and he's not alone. >> president of the united states. donald j. trump. >> republicans have one their own. in iowa donald trump is leading the pact, our cnn poll shows with ben carson in second place. these spoilers are up ending the race, sending establishment stars like jeb bush and hillary to the back burner for now. >> jeb and hillary on the same day. they said donald trump has too strong of a tone. the world is cracking up and they are worried about my tone. >> reporter: instead of taking on trump, bush turned his attacks on clinton in a speech in iraq at the reagan library in california. >> where was secretary of state clinton in all of this? like the president himself she had opposed the surge, and then joined in claiming credit for its success. >> reporter: instead of challenging sanders, clinton is fixated on bush and the gop field. >> i have to draw a contrast with the candidates on the other side of the aisle. >> reporter: while trump is used to the spotlight, it's a new phenomenon for sanders, the 73 fwreerld vermont senator who calls himself a democratic socialist. his rallies drawing 100,000 people in recent weeks are the biggest of any 2016 candidate. >> are they under estimating bernie sanders? >> people often have under estimated me. i am in the race and running to win. >> bernie sanders is smiling a lot these days. he is benefitting from an environment where establishment politicians are no longer in as much favor as they were but it is a long road until the votes start in six months. jeff zeleny, cnn, washington. >> when you think of establishment politicians, jeb bush in the latest poll is up 5%. and then of course as jeff mentioned bernie sanders leading over hillary clinton in the latest new hampshire poll. could be interesting. >> 500 days away. >> can't predict. i know. >> it's fun to do though. another poll shows the majority of american voters think that hillary clinton's e-mails should be subject to a criminal zeginvestigation. >> of that split. it was conducted before clinton announced she would turn over the private server to the justice department. the issue has become a prime target for republican candidates. >> if classified information was going over a private server against the rules of the obama administration, and against common sense -- you are secretary of state. you are the second most important person in terms of the implementation of foreign policy, you want to be behind a firewall that is safe. >> i don't know frankly she will be able to run because it looks to me that the whole e-mail thing is a very criminal situation and could cause problems for years to come. >> she better hope the chinese don't do a document dump and reveal her e-mails. i nomar that stewart is her good friend and has been advising her on redecorating tips she may want to advise how to survive in prison instead. orange really is the new black. >> i will have more on the presidential race in this hour including a conversation with a national political reporter for the "washington post" on what's driving the latest changes in the polls. john? >> former u.s. president jimmy carter says he has cancer and it has spread to other parts of his body. carter said a recent elective surgery revealed the disease. he is rearranging his schedule to undergo treatment here in atlanta. today's local newspaper has published this cartoon in honor of mr. carter who was governor of the u.s. state of georgia before elected the 39th president in 1976. there's breaking news out of -- coming in of a deadly bombing in iraq's capital. according to reuters, police and medical officials say at least 60 people were killed, 200 wounded in a truck bomb in the satyr city district of baghdad. 60 killed, 200 wounded. we will keep you updated and bring you more information as it comes in. in the meantime, to china where emergency crews are suspending their efforts to put out a raging chemical fire in the city of tianjin, at least for now. officials say they need to learn more about exactly which smalls they are dealing with here. to update you, a massive explosion at a warehouse overnight set off a series of blasts. at least 170 are dead including nine firefighters. meantime, though, hundreds are injured. state of emergency is in effect. take a look at this. this is the scene a short time ago. that's the thick black smoke billowing in to the air. we know it is 13 hours since these explosions rocked the city of tianjin, a city of 10 million people. not far from the capital beijing. explosions so powerful that homes and buildings, entire neighborhoods were in fact set on fire. it's been reported that the blasts were actually spotted from outer space by a japanese weather satellite. in some cases, they were recorded as earthquakes, these blasts were so power ful. about the same power as 21 tons of tnt and of course there are emergency crews can which had been searching through the rubble looking for anyone who may be trapped beneath that debris. that is all on hold. the bottom line is they essentially do not know what capit chemicals are in the air and how dangerous it is. it is a major city in china. you probably never heard of it. it is tianjin. home to 10 million people and right now the toxic plume seems to be covering not just the immediate area but for miles and miles spreading out from the city. some people were feeling the noxious fumes in their throat. i did speak to will about an hour ago and he has the latest from the scene. we are standing two kilometers from the blast site itself. you can see the effects of the shock wave on this car. first of all, it clearly caught on fire. it's been torn apart. if you look at this convention center just beyond the car, you can see what was a door, an entryway there completely pushed in. a lot of the windows around here are smashed. we visited a housing block earlier and almost every window of every apartment -- it is too far behind me so we can't zoom in but many of those windows are gone. there are shards of glass on the ground. a lot of people so terrified running from their homes overnight when they heard the explosions they didn't have time to put on shoes or clothes. a lot of injuries hospitals are seeing and there are hundreds of people in the hospitals, people cut themselves on the broken glass. that's the most common injury we are seeing right now. i want to show you off in the distance is a smoke plume just beyond those buildings. that's where the explosion happened. the fire is still burning. they haven't been able to put it out. there is a bit of a chemical smell in the air. it is not as thick as overnight. but enough to tickle your throat a little bit and make you wonder what you are breathing in out here. most people we see don't have masks. they are not handing them out. a couple of police officers and a few emergency personnel have been wearing masks. everybody else is walking around in devastated streets trying to figure out what to do next. >> will, it is incredible to think that is a mile and a half way from where the blast happened. how do residents describe the blast? >> they ran to the parking lot -- we interviewed a couple of people in the parking lot. they ran to the parking lot for safety because the house they were in collapsed around them. what happened first of all during the overnight hours they noticed the orange fire ball outside of their window. they were asleep in their house. shortly after seeing the fire ball, so bright it woke them up out of bed, they heard the loud explosion and then another explosion 30 minutes later. so powerful that their house collapsed around them. strangers helped to carry them out of the debris. they grabbed a few belongings and ran to safety. a lot of people ended up here. they have scattered to other areas in the city. a terrifying, sleepless night. those were the folks who survived without serious injury. a lot of people had to go to the hospital. we saw a man moaning as he was wheeled in with severe burns. another man, one of the men who interrupted us during our live shot was on the ground sobbing saying why did they take her, why did they take my daughter away, why would god take her. we believe his daughter was killed. understandably he and his friends and supporters were emotional and upset that we were even there. they certainly showed us, john. it's a sign of how tense things are here after a terrifying, long, sleepless night. >> will, is that the background between that confrontation that you had earlier today with the security officials and residents there that were upset that, what, international reporters turned up to cover this? >> that's the impression that i got. as soon as they mobbed me during my live shot -- it was civilians, there were police officers in the crowd but they kept shouting in chinese, delete, delete. erase your video. erase your pictures. i explained i hadn't taken any videos or pictures but i was talking in to skype but that was lost in translation. thing got very heated. at one point they were grabbing me, holding on the me, not letting me leave. we were able to diffuse the situation and after a period of several minutes i was able to walk away unhurt, i'm fine. they are the ones who are not okay and i understand what they are going through and why they are angry. we are here trying to tell their stories, trying to show people what happened because there are a lot of people who need help as a result of this. >> terrifying images out of tianjin, china. our will ripley there. authorities don't know why the warehouse exploded but we will keep you updated. in the meantime, gruesome on-line images claim to show the beheaded body of a croatian hostage. tomislav salopek was abducted outside of cairo on july 22nd. the egyptian branch of isis demanded the release of all muslim women from prisons within 48 hours or they would kill their hostage. the images have not been verified but croatian's prime minister said the situation looks horrible. some important nep the fight against isis for the first time. the u.s. is using a base in southern turkey to launch manned air strikes on targets in syria. the pentagon had wanted access to the incirlik air base for a long time. the two countries did reach an agreement last month. the outgoing u.s. army chief of staff said if conditions on the ground do not improve, washington should consider embedding u.s. trainers with iraqi forces. >> i believe that if we find in the next several months that we're not making the progress that we have, we should probably absolutely consider embedding some soldiers to see if that would make a difference. that doesn't mean there would be fighting but maybe embedding and moving with them. i think that san option we should present to the president when the time is right. >> information minister says the turkish president isn't interested in confronting isis with this move. >> >> the air raids led by the west known as the alliance raids have been going on a long time. so this is nothing new. but actually what is in the mind of the turkish president is not the intention to confront isis. not any intent to confront isis. >> what do you make of america's air campaign against isis? >> translator: we have been clear since the onset of the air strikes by the alliance. we support and are with any party that combats isis by any means. either we are with them, or they are with us. but the problem lies with america. they say they want to confront isis. at the same time they don't want to cooperate with the forces fighting isis on the ground which is the syrian leadership. that's confusing and suspicious. >> you said that in guerrilla warfare it is not always the territory that you win that matters. what do you think victory would look like? >> translator: victory would be a victory over terrorism, not syrians over syrians. we'd like the armed syrian opposition to come and hold talks with us. when we talk about terrorism, we mean isis who consider us infidels. this is the mentality we should confront. a short break. when we come back, china's currency falls for the a third dave. we go to live reaction on the the financial markets. and once frosty relationships between the u.s. and cuba are warming with up with a symbolic ceremony in havana. we'll tell you about it after this short break. music: "thunder clatter" by wild cub ♪ ♪ ♪ most weekends only last a couple of days. some last a lifetime. hampton. we go together. always get the lowest price, only when you book direct at hampton.com esurwhich means fewer costs, which saves money. their customer experience is virtually paperless, which saves paper, which saves money. they have smart online tools, so you only pay for what's right for you, which saves money. they settle claims quickly, which saves time, which saves money. they drive an all-hybrid claims fleet, which saves gas, which saves money. they were born online, and built to save money, which means when they save, you save. because that's how it should work in the modern world. esurance. backed by allstate. click or call. sup jj? 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they have to manage the currency down so they too could take advantage of more exports. now you have the european central bank with a negative for the euro and european exporters hoping to take advantage of the currency to do business. what's the effect here? you go to the scandinavian country and the swiss, all of whom whom have their own problems now, meaning negative interest rates because they have to accommodate the currency. and in to all of this you have the u.s. dollar, mighty as she sails, but the high level of the dollar means u.s. exports are more expensive and of course, who wins, just about everybody else. richard quest, cnn, new york. >> nice explanation from our richard quest. >> professor quest. >> professor quest, yes. another story we are following. a huge moment in u.s. and cuban history on friday with the formal opening of the u.s. embassy in havana. secretary of state john kerry will be there when the flag goes up over the embassy. he will be the first u.s. secretary of state to visit cuba to set foot on the island in 70 years. >> secretary kerry sat down with oppenheimer a columnist with the miami herald and host with cnn espanol. >> i believe our ability to is enhanced by our presence with an embassy and with diplomates there. there's no question in my mind we will have a better opportunity to stand up and fight for human rights, right there, being there, with an ambassador, with an embassy, able to engage with the people of cuba. if that doesn't happen, then, you know, other things are options obviously. i mean, just, this will work. let's just let this work. give this an opportunity. >> when we come back, new poll shows donald trump firmly in front in the key early voting state of iowa. we will look at his surge to the front of the pub can presidential pact. ♪ ♪ hp instant ink can save you up to 50% on ink delivered to your door, so print all you want and never run out. plans start at $2.99 a month. right now, buy an eligible printer, and get three months of free ink with hp instant ink. available at participating retailers. the most affordable way to print. hp instant ink. plaque psoriasis. moderate to severe isn't it time to let the real you shine through? 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>> you have to look ate objectively. he has rick santorum's strategist working alongside anymore des moines, building the ground game there. in new hampshire and south carolina he has extensive staff and volunteers. he doesn't need many ads because he is on tv constantly doing interviews. this is a viable candidacy but early. >> to reference that poll again, when you look at the poll, jeb bush is quite low down, at 5%. and the democratic new hampshire poll you have got bernie sanders beating hillary clinton. are we seeing a rebellion against washington insiders or something else going on here? >> i think you nailed it. not a rebellion against a democrat or republican party, there is populous anger. when i'm on the campaign trail against the big banks, against the government that is frustrating their own economic chances. people are unhappy. whether you are liberal or conservative you may be floating to trump or sanders for that reason. >> switching gears, i want to talk about john kasich. he is someone i find interesting help spoke in new hampshire today. let's listen to what he had to say. >> i happen to be a republican. but the republican party is my vehicle and not my master. one thing that frustrates me is you don't know me. i was thinking about this last night. you don't know me. i would encourage you to find out who i am. >> who is the real john kasich? he talks about health care and social security and sounds like a democrat sometimes. is this someone republican voters can trust. >> the trump spectacle is dominating the race but i think he is the most intriguing if the field. served in congress 18 years and a personality that is similar to trump. loves plil political combat, lively. doesn't speak with canned talking points. that's appealing to voters. he's won in a swing state. establishment likes him as well. if you are wary of jeb bush, kasich maybe your guy. kasich and trump are the two hottest in republican policies. >> kasich speaks from the heart. i want to talk about bernie sanders. in the latest new hampshire poll, bernie sanders is beating hillary clinton. i think bernie sanders is far too much of an ied log to win the election but should hillary clinton look over her shoulder? >> she should. he could be a real threat in new hampshire from neighboring vermont. so many democratic activists when they look at what they want the democratic party to be post obama they want it more liberal. an independent socialist who isn't part of the wall street system, who's a political outsider. they see someone who represents their views in the same way frustrated conservatives see something in trump. that makes sanders a force. >> this election is all about outsiders. thank you so much. appreciate that. >> thank you. more now another one of our top stories. toxic chemical blast in the port city in china, tianjin. a teacher at an international school in that city is joining me on the line. there are concerns now by the crews that have suspended their efforts to put out the fire because they don't know what is burning right now. have you been told anything by officials at this point? any concern they have expressed to you? >> i haven't really heard much from them other than what's on the news about what happened. there have been reports that, you know, we should wear our masks when we go outside, just to be careful about the air. other than that, no, not really. >> how close are you living to the actual blast site? how much damage was done to where you live? >> that's a very good question. i'm one to two kilometers away from the plast site. we woke up to the first blast and went to check out what was happening of course out the window and saw huge explosion. we have line of sight from where it happened. only few buildings in the way and the shock wave just blew through our apartment. it blew out the glass. it blew out the doors. you know, just knocked everything over. knock 0ed out the power. it has really damaged a lot of buildings in my complex and other complexes that were facing other directions. these complexes are 33 floors tall. the windows in all of the apartments are blown out. it's quite substantial what's happened. >> so there was flying glass especially in your apartment, like in so many other apartments last night in tianjin. were you hurt at all? >> was i hurt, yes. i was standing near the window and had my hand on the curtains when the glass blew and cut my hand open pretty bad. i have cuts all over my legs. my wife cut her feet pretty badly and her arm. just glass and shrapnel kind of exploded everywhere. >> we know there were two explosions. the first not as powerful as the second. what did you think when you first heard that blast and then there was a second incredibly powerful explosion? what was your first thought that maybe the cause of all of this? >> yeah, at first i thought -- first i thought a bomb went off. of course there's nothing like that in china. so i knew something terrible happened. just from looking at the fire ball erupt in to the sky i had to -- craziest thing i ever saw. i had to get away from there. now that i'm thinking about it, it is a terrifying experience. >> always terrifying when you take a moment and think back at what may have been. of course we do know the death toll there has risen to 44. vafa anderson, we appreciate you being on the line to give your perspective of where you were a mile or so away from the blast. >> frightening scenes there out of china. we want to update you on other stories we are following. in south carolina the u.s. justice department opened a civil rights investigation in to a fatal officer-involved shooting. this time it involved the killing of a white teenager. zachary hammond was killed last month a restaurant parking lot. police say the officer fired if self defense as hammond drove his car toward him. his family said the shooting was unjustified and a violation of his civil rights. ham monday's mother also questions the integrity of the police. listen to this. >> i just don't feel the seneca police department is being honest about a lot of things. their stories keep changing and we have just lost a lot of confidence. confidence that we actually did have with the police. it's just shattered us, totally. >> zachary hammond's mother speaking there. hammond was unarmed. important to note at the time of the shooting. in the meantime we will take a break and have more news after this. no sixth grader's ever sat with the eighth grade girls. but your jansport backpack is permission to park it wherever you please. hey. that's that new gear feeling. this week, filler paper and folders just one cent. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. ♪usic: "another sunny day" by belle and sebastian ♪ ♪ such a shame it's labeled a "getaway." life should always feel like this. hampton. we go together. always get the lowest price, only when you book direct at hampton.com i'm sorta marge... you're not marge? 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>> everything. the popular dating app tinder and the crowe are braking up after five months. the company announced christopher payne is leaving and replaced. the director said both sides agreed it wasn't working out. >> the move is after tinder melted down on twitter sending out multiple tweets. it was denouncing a story in "vanity fair" magazine that linked the app to what it called an apocalypse in the world of dating as people seek casual sex opposed to relationships. it's getting hot in here. the company bic is apologizing for an ad that sparked outrage on-line. >> the fuss is about an ad for a pen that was supposed to be a salute to women in south africa. we have more from johanns in aburg. >> looked like a girl it claims act like a lady, think like a man, work like a boss. i was pen maker bic's attempt at celebrating women's day in south africa. it unleashed a social media storm. bic, please, nice soes dose of sexism. bic south africa responded we're sorry for offending everybody, they said. on the streets many women aren't surprised. >> it is like an old way of thinking of what being female and male is. >> some sate reflects the way that it is here. >> it happens to women now days where you have to act like a man because it is a man's world. >> i'm not offended. i think it is fine. >> i actually think it is fine. >> it's okay. >> i was surprised on the streets south africans more mixed than social media. but then they are used to advertising pushing boundaries. >> all of you foreigners. must go back where you came from. >> some companies like a fast food chain put out controversial tv spots like this to start a conversation. >> do you have anything to add to the conversation? 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waving branch at a zoo if the netherlands. tushy demolished a $2,000 drone and they had their mug shots taken as they examined the debris. who needs a stick when you have horns? a ram head butt withed a drone and then went after the guy who came to retrieve it. at a zoo in naples, florida, an agitated alligator could do nothing but lunge. while elsewhere in florida, a swarm of bees engaged in ariel combat. ♪ >> reporter: the tv news drone -- >> when you see the video it looked like "star wars." >> reporter: even landing. >> he is trying to sting the lens. >> reporter: for a pair of weeping labs the drone was nothing more than an expensive dog toy a frisbee with blades. perhaps the most fut till effort to down a drone is made by a golf who are missed by a mile when he threw his club. that doesn't count as a birdie, but this does. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> that last shot had us saying ooh. >> in the meantime, thank you for watching, everyone. >> rosemary church is up next, mies no 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viewers here in the united states and around the world. this is "cnn newsroom." and we begin with a deadly bombing in the iraqi capital. we have just gotten these new pictures into cnn. the ministry of interior says a truck packed with explosives blew up in a crowded market in baghdad's sadr city district. is it a shiite area. the sunshine militants of isis have claimed similar attacks in the past. we will continue to follow that story and bring you the details as they come into us. but it is 2:00 in the afternoon in tianjian china where firefighters are suspended an effort to put out a massive fire in the city's warehouse district. unbelievable images there. and this is just one of several explosions that happened overnight in the port city. at least 44 people are dead including nine firefighters. more than 500 are injured. authorities say they pulled back from the fire because they don't know enough about what chemicals they're dealing with here. aerial video from a short time ago shows the black smoke still billowing from that site. many people say they thought it was an earthquake. cnn spoke with one witness 30 minutes ago. >> i'm one to two kilometers away from the blast site. we woke up to the first blast and went to check out what is happening at the window and saw a huge explosion. we have line of sight from where it happened. it is only a few buildings in the way and the shock wave just blew through our apartment it it blew out the glass and the doors. it just knocked everything over. we -- knocked out the power. it has really damaged a lot of the building in my complex that were facing that side and other complexes that were facing the other direction. >> tianjin is one of the most populous cities in china home to 10 million people. it's just to the southeast of beijing. will ripley is there. >> reporter: when you look around at the devastation here, it's really remarkable. one, just all of the damage that was done to this convention center building, take a look at this car. it clearly caught fire. the windows smashed. it's crumpled to bits and we are standing two kilometers from the blast site. we're not even close to the epicenter. that gives you a sense of just how strong this was and how scary this was for the 15 million people who live here in tianjin. a lot of the people we visited earlier many of the windows are smashed. there are shards of glass piled up on the ground. people didn't have time to put on their shoes. they were barefoot going through this. and hundreds of people are in the hospital with cuts because of all the broken glass. there are helicopters in the air flying overhead and looking at that gigantic smoke plume which you can make out through the haze in the distance. the fires are still burning since the first chemical fire and the first explosion and the second explosion and so on. the air has a thick chemical smell and we feel it a bit in our throats. we wonder what we are breathing in right now even though most of the people are not wearing masks either they don't have time to grab any or have any. the police and medical personnel have masks. at the hospital it was an emotional and sad scene. we have security telling us to move out of the way. security and onlookers are not happy we are filming and we were told to stop. i was knocked off the air and surrounded by an angry mob. these are people who have gone through so much. they haven't slept. they have loved ones sick in the hospital. one man had a loved one who died. and emotions are high right now. the grief is high. and people are trying to process all of this and what happened and why. why was this huge city rocked by these explosions overnight? it is the question that investigators look into as they assess the damage and treat the sick and emotionally scarred and figure out what happened and prevent it from happening again. >> we'll follow that story too. sad news to report now, former u.s. president jimmy carter says he has cancer and it has spread to several parts of his body. carter says a little liver surgery revealed the disease. the 90-year-old says he is now rearranging his public schedule so he can undergo treatment here in atlanta. the newspaper published this cartoon in honor of mr. carter who was governor of the u.s. state of georgia before being elected president in 1976. turning now to u.s. politics. and donald trump's brash and controversial style is not hurting him among republicans in iowa. the latest cnn/orc poll shows trump leading by eight pounds. ben carson is in second place. while former florida governor jeb bush has fallen to seventh place. no big surprises for the democrats. hillary clinton has a strong lead in iowa with 50% support. bernie sanders trails her but he is drawing large, enthusiastic crowds at campaign events. and vice president joe biden isn't a candidate but still comes in third place at 12%. now these polls are just a snapshot of the 2016 race. but they show that candidates once considered long shots are gaining popularity on more established contenders. we take a look at the spoilers and how they could effect who wins the white house. >> reporter: soaring summer for bernie sanders. he's front-page news today, vaulting over hillary clinton in new hampshire. his populous cry is catching on. >> we have a message to the billionaire class. and that message is you can't have it all. >> reporter: and his candidacy is taking off. for the first time, a new franklin pierce university poll shows him with a 7 point edge over clinton as clinton faces questions about the private e-mail server she used as secretary of state. she agreed to surrender it to the justice department. it has given sanders an opportunity to be a spoiler in the campaign. >> president of the united states, donald j. trump. >> reporter: republicans have one of their own. in iowa, donald trump is leading the pack with ben carson in second place. these spoilers are upending the race, sending establishment stars like clinton and jeb bush to the back burner right now. >> jeb and hillary on the same day they said donald trump has too strong a tone. the world is cracking up and they're worried about my tone. >> reporter: instead of taking on trump, bush turned his attack to clinton last night. >> was secretary of state clinton in all of this? like the president himself, she had oppose the surge and then joined in claiming credit for its success. >> reporter: and clinton is fixated on bush and the gop field. >> i have to draw a can trast with the candidates on the other side of the aisle. >> reporter: while trump is used to the spotlight is it a new phenomenon for sanders, the 73-year-old who calls himself a democratic socialist. >> are that you under estimating bernie sanders? >> people have often underestimated me. >> bernie sanders is smiling a lot these days. he is benefitting from an environment where establishment politicians are no longer in as much favor as they were. but it's a long road until the votes start in about six months. and earlier i spoke to a democratic strategist an republican consultant about what this all could mean for each party. >> this has been one poll and that is correct. in 2004, howard dean had his day in the sun as well. the poll was out of new hampshire which is right next to bernie sanders' vermont there. they know bernie very well and the liberal base is invested in him. seeing a surprise bump up there is nothing new. and if you look at the way the campaign has progressed, hillary hasn't started campaigning yet no major media buys yet. it has been slower on the democratic side than the republican side. hillary will close the ground, surpass and push toward the nomination. >> bruce haines, how damaging is this for republican party and how stainable is this trump surge? because he's out there. he's the loose cannon. he is taking the attention off jeb bush who was for a lot of republicans supposed to be the guy who was going to be nominated by the republicans. so talk to us about how long that can go on for without really taking a toll on the party. >> well i think, actually, if you look at it, account go on for a long time. you've got donald trump. he's leading in the state polls in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina. and he has access to a politician's best friend in a long campaign and that's ready money. he can spend. he's got big staffs of credible operatives in these states. he can go on a long time. i think whether it's damaging or not depends on does trump mature as a candidate? do his views become more well better formed? and does he continue to draw people into a conversation that republicans would like to have as opposed to one that sounds shrill and angry? >> and in the next hour we will talk about hillary clinton's e-mail server and jeb bush's low poll numbers. donald trump is offering his thoughts on foreign policy. he spoke with cnn's "new day" about how he would stop isis. >> you put troops on the ground? >> i would go in and take the oil and put troops to protect the oil. i would take the money source away and they would start to wither and they would collapse. >> but the outgoing u.s. army chief of staff disagrees with that and says an inclusive approach is needed. take a listen. >> we have to stop a long-term group -- a group that is potentially attempting to be a long-term influence in the middle east that is clearly promoting extremism and frankly suppressing the populations in the middle east. in order to resolve that you need the countries of the middle east and those surrounding the middle east to be involved in the solution. >> you did agree with donald trump? >> i do. >> the u.s. is getting logistical help for the first time. u.s. forces are using a key base in southern turkey to launch manned airstrikes on isis targets in syria. washington has wanted to use the air base for a while now and an agreement was reached last month. but syrian's information minister says turkey's move is not about confronting isis. fred pleitgen spoke with him exclusively. >> reporter: the air raids led by the west have been going on for a long. so this is nothing new. but actually what's in the mind of turkish president erdogan. so actually, not any intention to confront isis. what do you make of america's air campaign against isis? >> translator: we have been -- we support and we are with any party that combats isis by any means. either we are with them or they are with us. but the problem lies with america. they say they want to confront isis at the same time, they don't want to cooperate with the forces that are fighting isis on the ground which is the syrian leadership. that's very confusing and very suspicious. >> reporter: you've said that in guerrilla warfare it's not always the territory that you win that matters. what do you think that victory could look like? >> translator: a victory is a victory of terrorism not of syrians over syrians. we 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that the currency would have to drop a great deal more for it to be officially declared a war. you mention this is good for china. it's definitely good for their exports. there's no doubt about that. it makes their exports cheaper and more competitive on the global stage but many analysts, rosemary, are saying that this is really an indication that the chinese economy is hurting, that it's slowing and that the official figure is not a clear indication of what is actually happening on the mainland. we know that consumer confidence is down and they've been relying on that to pick up the slack, if you like with constructions ailing, financial services which were riding off the back of the stock market, they're also slipping somewhat. but really, this is perhaps a further indication that things aren't so rosie in china. their goal for 7% growth this year is being seriously questioned by analysts. even more so now with the devaluation of the rnb. but the official word out of china, rosemary, is that they're simply opening up the yuan to market forces that this is just a correction because the rnb has appreciated so quickly. it's up 10% since 2014 and perhaps they're loosening their grip on the currency exchange rate but the analysts are a lot more skeptical. >> the world is watching this story closely, as are we. anna coren thanks to you. images posted online appear to show the beheading of a croatian hostage held by the egyptian branch of isis. the images cannot be verified we the croatian prime minister who says the situation looks bleak. ian lee has the details. >> reporter: croatian -- was a topographer for a french company. he was kidnapped by isis and it appears they have executed him. the croatian government while not able to confirm, fears the worst. this is the road where isis reportedly kidnapped the man. there is not much out here but desert. it is an area known as the western desert famous for oil seekers and it is unpredictable and dangerous. a year ago out here, isis claims they killed an american oil worker. isis demanded the release of all female muslim prisoners in egypt in exchange for the hostage. giving the government 48 hours to comply but the deadline passed. >> that speaks to the heart of what is driving the angry islamist youth in egypt who in the patriarchal society that females are so dear. >> reporter: isis frees alleged spies and captured soldiers. but this brutal, deliberate killing of a civilian marks a turning point for isis in egypt. >> in the long term they might try to focus on more shock and awe type attacks, stuff like we see with this poor croatian man where they are trying to maximize the level of perceived brutality. >> a warning for the egyptian government and deeply disturbing for foreigners living in egypt. ian lee, cnn. cnn reached out to croatian and egyptian officials who haven't confirmed the death. an official with egypt's interior ministry said we have heard the news but we are working to confirm it. questions linger over whether the animas river in the united states which turned this yellow/orange color after a toxic waste spill earlier this week is safe again. utah's governor declared a state of emergency on wednesday to help local communities that are affected. but some people are angry over what they see as a lackluster government response to the incident as federal officials accept blame for what happened. >> epa does take full responsibility for this incident. we are doing an internal epa investigation and we're also going to seek independent review and investigation of what happened. the very good news is that the data so far is showing that water quality does restore itself to its prior conditions. >> reporter: a team from the environmental protection agency cleaning a gold mine inadvertently released the contaminated water into the river which flows through three states. cubans had a lot to celebrate during this year's carnival. >> the relationship between their 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the world. i'm rosemary church. it's time to update the top stories this hour. a bombing in a crowded market in baghdad's sadr city district has killed at least 36 people. 75 others are wounded. sadr city is a shiite area. there is no claim of responsibility. but the sunni militants of isis have claimed attacks in the past. a massive chemical fire is still burning in tianjin after a series of explosions overnight. 44 people are dead and more than 500 are injured. china's state news agency says dozens of firefighters are missing. authorities don't know what caused the explosions. the outgoing u.s. army chief of staff believes that russia is the greatest threat facing the united states. the general says the crisis in ukraine shows why. he estimates only a third of u.s. brigades can operate at the level of russian warfare in ukraine. one inmate is dead and five are hospitalized with stab wounds after a riot broke out at a california state prison. 71-year-old hugo pinel was killed in the fighting on wednesday. he was sentenced to life with parole three times and part of the san quentin six for their alleged role in a 1971 prison escape attempt. on friday, the american flag will rise over the embassy in cuba. secretary of state john kerry plans to be there for the moment. it marks the formal reopening of the diplomatic center for the first time in more than 50 years. cubans are celebrating the renewed relations. >> reporter: they play with heart and on a shoe string budget. havana's carnival is not an overthe top affair like rio's or mardi gras. those are beyond the reach of this island's battered economy. but perhaps this year cubans are in the mood to celebrate just a little more. the procession of floats begins down the street from the newly reopened similar. we want this, he says of the restoration of relations between the two countries. cuba has love for the united states. there don't appear to be many americans in the crowd. they can consider themselves invited to next year's. the americans should come enjoy carnival here and invite us to theirs the dancers tell me. the u.s. and cuba are endangered in a diplomatic dance. neither side completely sure where it will lead to. some cubans joke that their relationship between "w" the united states is like the conga. you take one step forward and one step back and you don't go fast but you get where you need to go. the restoration of relations is a hit with many cubans like francisco who proud hi wears an american flag t-shirt. if we are neighbors why are we always fighting, he asks? carnival is supposed to be a beautiful but fleeting dream. but in cuba there is new hope of waking up to a better reality. 80% of portugal is dealing with severe drought conditions. and our meteorologist derek van dam is here to explain what happened. this drought is not new but this situation that we're dealing with is. >> the fire started last saturday but the drought had been ongoing. they had a dry winter and spring and a dry summer right now. the wildfires which are burning in central and northern portugal are suspected in an arson case. the plot thickens there. and 600 firefighters battling the blaze right now. you can see just the wildfires, the 600 or so firefighters that are trying to put out these blazes. looks like southern and northern california. let's get to my graphic. and you can see the ongoing fires taking place in the central and northern portions of the country and that is just north of lisbon. and this area has been under a drought, a very dry winter and spring. that has led to 80% of portugal under severe drought conditions. but notice the red to the east of madrid. that is the area we have been talking about all summer long. they have had 56 consecutive days above 30 degrees celsius or 86 degrees fahrenheit. look at lisbon's forecast. we should be about 28 degrees. we'll be in the lower and middle 20s for the next several days and into the weekend. to the other side of the world this is argentina, we have had severe floods, impacting about 11,000 people and extremely heavy rainfall inundate this region which should be the driest time of the year. in buenos aires, we have quadrupled the average. you can see the flooding in that area inundating churches and houses. there haven't been reports of fatalities and injuries but that is one massive cleanup effort. >> we are seeing a lot of this. >> polar opposites. we wish we could bring that wet weather to spain and portugal. >> thanks, we'll talk about very soon. wednesday was world elephant day. up next, we take you to a national park are conservationists are fighting to save elephant calves orphaned by poachers. ♪ (ee-e-e-oh-mum-oh-weh) (hush my darling...) 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>> reporter: the team must work quickly. they closely monitor the bull's breathing. but the elephant fell on the wrong side. it's worse than we thought. >> we have to work on this one. we have to lift it up. again. >> reporter: after the first wound is cleaned and treated, the 6-on the giant must be rolled over. the arrow wounds are a couple weeks old. >> the poison gets into the abdominal cavity and kill it. >> reporter: he has treated some 500 elephants. >> we will inject our revival drug and the animal will be up. >> reporter: but the large animal has trouble getting up. he needs help. >> small team, but we work on big elephants. >> reporter: and he is confident this one will make a complete recovery. the outlook for the rest of kenya's elephants may not be as good. this woman believes that asia's appetite for ivory is driving the killings. >> something has to be done at the other end. there is a lot of poverty and unemployment. as long as he can get money from killing an elephant he's going to do that. but if there is no demand for the tusks there is no reason for him to go after the elephants. i doubt whether my great grandchildren will be able to see wild elephants live a normal life. they are going rapidly. one every 15 minutes. >> while they will likely mother many more orphans they remain determined to secure them a future in the wild. >> extraordinary report there. a mass grave unearthed in the middle of london. a grim discovery that may tell scientists more about one of the city's most notorious killers. that's coming next. ♪ the staff at this beautiful resort . . . will stay with you forever. ♪ especially if you don't leave. ♪ you got it booking right. booking.com booking.yeah try phillips' fiber good gummies plus energy support. it's a new fiber supplement that helps support regularity and includes b vitamins to help convert food to energy. mmmmm, these are good! nice work, phillips! the tasty side of fiber, from phillips'. ♪ look how beautiful it is... honey, we need to talk. we do? 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from the samples we can take, we might be able to tell exactly what path general is responsible for the outbreak and perhaps why it stopped. >> reporter: cross rail tunnelling has been under construction for three years now and exposed 10,000 artifacts spanning 55 million years. the link for modern day commuters also proving to be a priceless link to the past. kellie morgan, cnn, london. >> fascinating there. tom brady was in court wednesday in the latest round of the deflategate scandal. but all anyone could talk about was the courtroom sketch. of course, the internet has been poking fun at it. and here is a meme over the thriller video and over "the scream" and here is the sketch riding in the basket during the movie "e.t." you have been watching "cnn newsroom." i'm rosemary church. do stay with us. i'll be back next hour. ♪"once there was a hushpuppy" by dan romis man kind?eitlin ♪ are we good? go see. go look through their windows so you can understand their views. go find out just how kind the hes and shes of this mankind are. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com devastation. a pair of powerful explosions in tianjin, china kills scores of people and injuries more than 500. an e-mail scandal is hurting hillary clinton's presidential aspirations. also ahead, the perils of the angry e-mail. why some say it will only make you angrier. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. i'm rosemary church. this is "cnn newsroom." we start in china where the death toll has risen to 44 after a series of massive explosions in the city of tianjin. thick, black smoke is still billowing from the site and firefighters have suspended their efforts to put out the huge fire. they just don't know enough about what chemicals they're dealing with. it's not yet clear what caused the explosions but state media report the initial blast happened at a warehouse storing dangerous goods. more than 500 people are injured and dozens of firefighters are reported missing. many people were injured by flying glass as the explosion blew out windows for several kilometers. cnn spoke with one witness. >> i'm about one to two kilometers away from the blast site and we woke up to the first blast and went to check out what was happening, of course, at the window and saw a huge explosion. we have line of sight from where it happened. there's only a few buildings in the way. and the shock wave just blew through our apartment. it blew out the glass. it blue oew out the doors. it just knocked everything over. it knocked out the power. it has really damaged a lot of the buildings in my complex that were facing that side and other complexes that were facing other directions. >> and cnn's will ripley was one of the first international reporters to get close to the site. >> reporter: when you look around at all the devastation here, it's really remarkable one just all the damage that was done to the convention center building, the windows and doors smashed in. take a look at this car. it clearly caught fire. the windows smashed. it's crumpled to bits and we are standing two kilometers from the blast site. we're not even close to the epicenter. that gives you a sense of how strong this was and how scary this was for the 15 million people who live here in tianjin when they were jolts out of bed overnight. a lot of the people in the apartment blacks we visited earlier, there are shards of glass piled up on the ground. and people didn't have time to put on shoes and they were barefoot going through this. that's why hundreds of people are in the hospital, a lot with cuts because of the broken glass. there are helicopters in the air flying overhead and looking at that gigantic smoke plume which you can make out in the haze in the distance. the fires have been burning since the initial chemical fire and the first explosion and second explosion and so on. the air has a thick chemical smell. and we actually feel it a bit in our throats. we wonder exactly what it is we're breathing in right now even though most of the people are not wearing masks, either they didn't have time to grab any or don't have any. we saw police and medical personnel in masks. at the hospital it was an emotional and sad scene. we have security here telling us we need to move out of the way. that was an issue we ran into at the hospital. security and onlookers were not happy. i was knocked off the air and surrounded by an angry mob. these are people who have not slept. at least one man had a loved one who had died. and emotions are high right now. the grief is high and people are still trying to process all of this. exactly what happened and why. why was this huge city rocked by these explosions overnight? it's a question that investigators will be looking into as they try to assess the damage, try to treat the sick and the emotionally scarred and try to figure out what happened and how to prevent it from happening again. will ripley, tianjin, cnn. another explosion in the iraqi capital. it happened in the shiite neighborhood of sadr city. what are authorities and witnesses telling you about this deadly blast? >> reporter: well, rosemary, what we know from security officials in iraq is that at least 36 people were killed. and more than 70 others were wounded in this massive truck bombing attack that took place early this morning. as you mentioned, in the eastern part of baghdad in the predominantly shia district of sadr city at a vegetable and fruit market there. they expect the death toll to rise at this point. this happening at a time when this market is really packed. it's thursday. it's ahead of the weekend. they are in baghdad. and there is no claim of responsibility at this point. but this is one of the very -- wile in baghdad we have seen attacks and violence become normal. in the city people are used to bombings taking place, this kind of attack we have not seen in a long time in baghdad specifically. a truck bomb, this kind of single deadly attack is something people say is reminiscent at the days of the height of the sectarian violence in 2006 and 2007. in recent weeks we have seen attacks. just a few days ago, also, northeast of baghdad in the province that iraqi officials say they have, quote, unquote, liberated from isis earlier this year we have seen a number of deadly attacks taking place there. very high casualty figures. this sort of spectacular attack with big bombs ripping through markets and civilian areas. but at this point, no claim of responsibility for this baghdad attack. >> many thanks to you for talking to us on the phone. croatian's prime minister cannot confirm claims that isis militants have beheaded a croatian hostage in egypt but he says the situation looks horrible. tomislav salopek was abducted in july. the outgoing u.s. army chief of staff is offering a candid assessment of the efforts to stop isis. barbara starr says he is not ruling out the option of sending u.s. troops in. >> reporter: u.s. air strikes over syria trying to squeeze critical isis strongholds. in the west ramping up pressure in aleppo. in the east, striking raqqah, isis' capital. in iraq u.s. officials say iraqi troops may finally be getting ready to try to retake ramadi. >> good afternoon. >> reporter: but the top u.s. army general did not mince words about any part of the effort. on getting iraqi forces to fight? >> it hasn't gone as well as we like it to. >> reporter: on the overall situation? >> i think right now we're kind of at a stalemate. >> reporter: and a warning the president's strategy's specially in iraq may need fixing. raising the option of putting u.s. boots on the ground. >> if we find in the next several months that we're not making the progress that we have we should absolutely consider embedding some soldiers. >> reporter: as for u.s. training of syrian rebels, a program now in crisis since the first unit disbanded before it could fight in the field? >> i think we have to learn some lessons from that and figure out how we can best employ them to ensure their survivability in the region. >> i would go in and take the oil and put troops to protect the oil. i would go and take the money source away and they would start to wither and they would collapse. >> reporter: when you see donald trump we should move in with troops and take their oil and bomb the iraqi oil fields and take the oil away from isis. does anything like that even remotely have military ewutilit >> the problem we have had, do we achieve sustainable outcome? it's about sustainable outcome. >> reporter: you disagree with donald trump? >> i do. right now i do. >> reporter: but the general did offer one caveat. if there was a direct isis threat to the united states, if it was imminent, then perhaps he could see an option such as trump describes, the u.s. of military force. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. former u.s. president jimmy carter says he has cancer and it has spread to various parts of his body. carter says a recent liver surgery revealed the disease. the 90-year-old is rearranging his public schedule to undergo treatment here in atlanta. the local newspaper published this cartoon in honor of mr. carter. he was the governor of the u.s. state of georgia before being elected president in 1976. a majority of american voters think that hillary clinton's e-mail should be subject to a criminal investigation. the survey shows 82% of republicans, 23% of democrats and 54% of independents favor an investigation. it was conducted before clinton announce shed would turn over her private server to the justice department. >> i don't know, frankly, that she'll be able to run because it just looks to me that the whole e-mail thing is a very criminal situation and it could cause problems for years to come. >> i would have thought that her campaign advisers would have said let's disclose everything. and it looks like she is hiding. the fbi took it. it's different than disclosing it. >> another new poll shows clinton is now trailing bernie sanders in the key primary state of new hampshire. jeff zaleny has the details. >> reporter: bernie sanders is front-page news today. vaulting over hillary clinton in new hampshire. his populous cry is catching on. >> we have a message to the billionaire class. and that message is, you can't have it all. >> reporter: and his candidacy is taking off. for the first time, a new frankly pierce university poll shows him with a seven-point edge over clinton. all this as clinton faces new questions about the private e-mail server she used as secretary of state. she agreed to surrender it to the justice department. it's given sanders an opening to be a potential spoiler of the 2016 campaign and east not alone. >> president of the united states, donald j. trump. >> reporter: republicans have one of their own. in iowa, donald trump is leading the pack. our cnn poll shows with ben carson in second place. these spoilers are upending the race, sending establishment stars like clinton and jeb bush to the back burner for now. >> jeb and hillary on the same day, they said donald trump has too strong a tone. the world is cracking up and they're worried about my tone. >> reporter: instead of taking on trump, bush turned his attacks to clinton in a speech on iraq. >> where was secretary of state clinton in all of this? like the president himself, she had opposed the surge then joined in claiming credit for its success. >> reporter: instead of challenging sander, clinton is fixated on bush and the g.o.p. field. >> i have to draw a contrast to the candidates on the other side of the aisle. >> reporter: the 73-year-old vermont senator calls himself a democratic socialist. his rallies are the biggest of any candidate. >> are they underestimating bernie sanders? >> people often underestimate me. we're in the race to win. >> reporter: he is one of the candidates benefitting from an environment where establishment politicians are no longer as much in favor as they were. jeff zeleny, washington. we are learning new details about the 49-year-old rookie officer who shot and killed an unarmed texas teen including what he did before he joined the force. need to hire fast? go to ziprecruiter.com and post your job to over one hundred of the web's leading job boards with a single click. then simply select the best candidates from one easy to review list. and now you can use zip recruiter for free. go to ziprecruiter.com. . in the u.s. state of texas, the rookie police officer who was fired after killing a black unarmed teenager is fighting back. brad miller's attorney says his client only acted to, quote, save his and other officers' lives but the police chief sees it very differently. >> reporter: brad miller's lawyer says that the arlington's police chief's biggest fears are getting paper cuts and protecting his six-figure salary. that is the reaction to the firing of mr. miller. miller's lawyer says that the police chief is acting like a monday-morning quarterback and the decision was made in the middle of a heated confrontation. miller's boss was not convinced by miller's reasoning. >> this fear and feeling of isolation was the result of his poor decision to enter the building without assistance. >> reporter: former dallas area police officer and now defense lawyer pete schulze says that it has stunned cops on the force. >> it kills morale when you have officers who feel this is a rush to judgment. i have heard that officers think that the rookie was a scapegoat. >> reporter: brad miller graduated from the academy in march and in the final days of his field training. before becoming a cop he was a hairdresser in an arlington, texas salon. two of his co-workers describe him as very kind, someone who would bring flowers on mother's day. and he often talked about how he wanted to be a police officer. adrian and josh taylor question why officer miller shot their brother. >> he didn't do anything in that video that would sentence him to death or you know, anything -- maybe jail time, maybe. or you know, burglary charge, probation. >> reporter: taylor's family are not looking at the shooting as a racial issue. >> every person's life matters. yeah, my brother was black. he can't help that. so we're going to trust in the system. going to trust in god and keep praying. >> reporter: brad miller will no longer be a police officer with the arlington police department and he has to wait to see what a grand jury will decide if that grand jury will file any criminal charges against him. that is a process that will take several weeks. china has allowed its currency, the yuan to fall for the third day in a row. the central bank set the rate more than 1% lower versus the u.s. dollar. critics say china is artificially manipulating its currency to make exports cheaper. but the bank says market forces are driving the change. anna coren is following developments from hong kong and joins us now with more. what are analysts saying about what this tells us about china's economy right now? >> reporter: analysts believe, rosemary, that basically the chinese economy is suffering, that it's actually a lot weaker than what official figures suggest, hence the devaluing of the yuan. weakening the currency, as you say, it makes exports a lot more cheaper and certainly a lot more competitive and a report last week showed that exports were down 8%. this is something that is certainly front and center of the chinese government's mind. but this is only one thing that is going to stimulate the economy and there are real concerns as to whether the government has this situation under control. obviously their goal this year is for 7% growth. but after the devaluing of the currency, and even before that there were concerns whether they will reach that. there are serious question marks, rosemary, about the economic data coming out of china. people now seriously are questioning it. of course the official word from the chinese government is that they are simply allowing market forces to play a role in the value of the yuan. this is something of course that the united states and the imf, the international monetary fund has been pushing for some time. so they see themselves as, perhaps, loosening its grip on the chinese currency exchange. but obviously, rosemary, analysts reading it a little differently. >> indeed. china is not the first country accused of manipulating the currency to improve its trade prospects. richard quest explains how the two are linked. >> the world of trade is all about sending your goods to different parts of the world. and in doing so, you can use the currency to undercut each other. so, we have the yuan in china, which has been devalued by several percent. this will give those goods and services coming out of china a competitive advantage in the rest of the world. they will be cheaper. we've seen something similar in 2010 with the brazilian real where the level was high and the finance minister said he was worried about a currency war. so what happened of course they had to manage the currency down so they, too, could take advantage of more exports. now you have the european central bank with quantitative easing which is a negative for the euro and european exporters hoping to take advantage of the currency to do business. what's on the knock-on effect here you go to the scandinavian countries and the swiss who have negative interest rates because they have to accommodate the currency. and into all of this, you have the u.s. dollar, mighty as she sails. but that high level of the dollar means u.s. exports are more expensive and of course, who wins? just about everybody else. richard quest, cnn, new york. and now it's all perfectly clear, right? next here on cnn, a national poll shows hillary clinton trailing bernie sanders in new hampshire. should her campaign be concerned? we will talk to a democrat and republican strategist after the break. welcome back to our viewers here in the united states and of course all around the world. i'm rosemary church. want to check the headlines for you this hour. a massive chemical fire is still burning in the chinese city of tianjin after a series of explosions in the warehouse district overnight. at least 44 people are dead and more than 500 are injured. china's state news agency says dozens of firefighters are missing. authorities don't know what caused the explosions. a truck bomb exploded in baghdad's sadr city district killing at least 36 people. at least 75 others are wounded. sadr city is a shiite area and sunni militants have claimed responsibility for attacks in the past. the latest poll shows that hillary clinton and donald trump are leading their parties in iowa. trump has an eight-point lead in the republican field and clinton has a 19 point lead over bernie sanders. meanwhile, another poll shows hillary clinton lagging behind bernie sanders in new hampshire. and i asked two political strategists about the impact of the poll and the issues surrounding the election. joining me now to debate the issues confronting u.s. politics right now, a democratic strategist an a republican strategist. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for having us. >> two political outsiders, donald trump and bernie sanders are attracting attention away from the candidates who were supposed to be the leadership nominees. joe, one poll shows bernie sanders actually in the lead. is it time for hillary clinton to be panicking about that and the e-mails? >> no, i don't think so. this has been one poll and that's correct. in 2004, howard dean had his day in the sun as well. the poll is out of new hampshire which is next to bernie sanders' neighboring vermont up there. the liberal base is very invested in him. seeing a surprise bump up there is nothing new. and if you look at the way the campaign has progressed, hillary hasn't really started campaigning yet. there is not any major media buys yet. no debates or anything like that yet. hillary will close the ground quickly, surpass and push towards the nomination. bernie sanders will not be our nominee. >> we'll check about the e-mails in a moment. but bruce haines how damaging is this for the republican party and how sustainable is this trump surge? because he's out there. he's the loose cannon. he's taking the attention off jeb bush who was really for a lot of republicans, supposed to be the guy who was going to be nominated by the republicans. so talk to us about how long that can go on for without really taking a toll on the party. >> i think if you look at it, it can go on for a long time. you've got donald trump. he's leading in the state polls in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina and he has access to a politician's best friend in a long campaign and that is ready money. he has big have marco rubio. >> but they are overshadowed. >> they are getting overshadowed in august. it's a long campaign. but they're not completely overshadowed. we are seeing john kasich's poll numbers take a huge leap. jeb bush is holding steady. rubio is gaining ground. >> jeb bush must be a real disappointment for a lot of republicans. that's what the polls are showing. they're going you're not living up to expectations here. we're going to move our support and go to trump. >> i think they are very different candidates. i'm not sure they were going to get the same voter. in a large field you don't win with 50%. a republican is going to win iowa with something like 35%. >> joe, democrats had hoped hillary clinton's e-mail cycle will go away but it hasn't. it's getting messy now. how worried are democratic strategists about where this is going and what impact it could have on her campaign? >> i'd say it is darkest before the dawn. and what she did today by turning over the servers to the justice department and signed the affidavit that she had turned everything over. she is putting it out there on the line saying i have cooperated and given them everything they want and putting it all up for review. i think this is going to be a slow turn but a big turn on the corner that will finally put this to bed. if the justice department doesn't have anything they can work with which i believe that hillary believes they don't. it will be something that falls off the front page for a while. >> bruce haines is this e-mail saga going to fall off the front page? >> not at all. she turned everything over. now the question is what is in she turned over and analysis of that. and if you are republican when you look at this, the problem with hillary clinton's campaign is not something that is coming from the outside. it's not obama's policies or the sanders' energy and big crowds. the problem with hillary clinton's campaign is her worst opponent is hillary clinton and she's kind of losing to her. it's her e-mail server and her e-mails that have been deleted. and you know it's her remarks that have gotten her in hot water from time to time. you know, republicans look and see that hillary clinton may not be the insurmountable candidate after all. she may be similar to the one that lost in 2008 to barack obama. >> very interesting debate there. watching very closely. there's no doubt that u.s. politics is extraordinary, definitely for those of us not from america. thanks to you both. >> thanks. be sure to head outside for a spectacular light show. the persied meteor shower is streak through northern atmosphere at the moment. the vice president of the world governing body of athletics is speaking out to cnn. our exclusive interview, that's next. if you are in the northern hemisphere be sure to look up at the sky, celestial fireworks await you, the annual persied meteor shower will fill the heavens with up to 100 shooting stars per hour. these are images from europe and north america. the best time to see them is before dawn in the northeastern sky. this year's shower coincides with the new moon. and derek van dam is here to talk about this. we are not overstating this at all, are we? >> can i say that we have the best writers in the business. celestial fireworks lighting up the sky. i wish i could claim that one. it's good and it's true. this is some of the best meteorites -- shooting stars, i should say that we will be able to see this year. because it is coinciding with the new moon. we don't have the full moon washing out the sky. there are better viewing areas than others. let point that out for the viewers. look at the visuals behind me. this is an image from nasa. this is the earth at night and we look at europe and north america and you can see chicago and detroit, new york, washington, d.c. and mexico city and orlando and mize, those areas are going to be very difficult to see the persied meter showers at the moment because the city lights are going to wipe out the visibility. but if you can get away from the city if you can get a lawn chair and you will see upwards of 100 shooting stars per hour. this is one of the best of the year thanks to this coinciding with the waning crescent moon right now. we are currently at the peak. if you are tuning in in the united states along the east coast you have good viewing capabilities tonight. over the four corners region and mexico and texas, unfortunately, cloud cover obstructing your view. i want to take you to argentina, buenos aires, a spectacular part of the world. unfortunately, much of it is inundated by flooding at the moment. they have nearly quadrupled their monthly rainfall average for august when this should be the dry season for this part of argentina. you can see on the graphic here behind me that august should only see about 63 millimeters for entire month. but buenos aires clocked 223 millimeters from thursday into monday. and most of that rainfall fell in two different events, two 24-hour rainfall events that clocked in over 200 millimeters. the low pressure system moving through the area will continue with the bouts of heavy rain for southern argentina -- or northern argentina. but we are focusing on this region that will experience a significant amount of rainfall going forward with 100 to 150 millimeters of rainfall. some of the models have picked up over 350 millimeters in a few separate locations thanks to pulses of energy in the area. look at the footage coming out of parts of argentina. the flooding is inundating businesses, households and i think there is a shot of a church there. difficult scenes. that's going to mean a big cleanup effort going forward. >> it certainly will. thank you for taking us through that. appreciate it. one of the experts behind allegations of widespread doping in athletes says that the governing body lacks the drive to clean up the sport. last sunday the sunday times newspaper revealed details from a leak of blood test results from 5,000 athletes. anti-doping expert michael ashenden examined the data and says hundreds of suspicious results were not followed up on. in an open left to iaaf candidate he asked does it pursue the anti-doping mandate with the same single-minded all-consuming dedication that athletes adopt in their pursuit of winning. based on what i saw in the leaked database, my view is no. the vp of the international association of athletics federation sat down with our amanda davis for an exclusive interview. >> how bad a state is athletics in? >> it's in a strong state. >> people are talking about it as a sport in crisis. >> this is not a crisis. this is a very strong sport. our sport is about a great deal more than doping. but no change is not an option now. we need to do things definitely. >> can you categorically state there was no cover up from the iaaf? >> what i can tell you is every reading that was taken was followed up and acted upon. you know we chased some of the biggest names out of the sport and that doesn't come without a cost but we are prepared to do it. this is not a war we can allow ourselves to lose. >> how much is a successful world championships dependent on a successful usain bolt? >> we need usain in the same way that you know, in the '60s and '70s needed muhammad ali. >> how damaging would it be if a two-time drug cheat broke usain's record? >> i am not going to sit here and say i'm anything other than queasy at the thought that athletes who serve bans for a serious infringe judgment going on to win championship titles. i don't like it. >> should gatlin still be racing? >> yes. he is eligible to. >> should he be eligible to? >> i believe that lifetime bans are what we should have pushed for. i also accept because i live in the real world, that legally, that would not hold. that train left the station. so he is eligible to compete. and he should be respected for fact that he is eligible to compete. >> you broke three world records in 41 days. is it a sad indictment of where the sport is now that if you were to have done that this week that would have been put down to one thing? >> might well have been. and that is why i think moving to an independent anti-doping system is the next stage in really removing the perception, not the reality but the perception that there could be conflict and there could be cover up. >> was it ever levelled at you? >> of course. i came from nowhere to break three world records. of course people wanted to suggest that this wasn't done on anything other than hard work and natural talent. but sadly, that is the world that top athletes in any sport live in. >> were you tempted though? >> no. of course not. >> sebastian coe with amanda davis there. don't press send. a psychology professor explains why online venting may be bad for our health and gives some ways to control that anger. back in a moment. welcome back, everyone. some remarkable video of a shark off the coast of mexico gives new meaning to the words "great white." this is deep blue, thought to be the largest great white shark ever filmed. you can see just how big she is as she swims right up against a cage full of divers. she is estimated to be 20 feet. that's more than 6 meters long and 5,000 pounds. researchers estimate she is least 50 years old and also pregnant. the researchers who filmed deep blue are tracking pregnant great whites to protect their nursery grounds. how about that? have you ever been so worked up about something that you fired off an angry e-mail to get it off your chest? a psychology professor says that may not be the healthiest thing to do and venting in general, not just online, only makes us angrier. joining me now is professor of communication and psychology at ohio state university brad bushman. thank you, sir, for talking with us. >> my pleasure. >> you say writing angry e-mails makes us angrier. don't hit the send button. that part makes sense to me. but why is it not a good idea to write out that anger in an e-mail? >> expressing anger keeps the anger alive. it's like using gasoline to put out a fire. it feeds the flame. it keeps arousal levels high and keeps the angry feelings hot. so it's just a very bad way to get rid of anger and aggression to express it or to vent it. >> so you're not really in favor of venting. you say it makes us madder and meaner. but why not just write them down somewhere safe and never send it just get it off our chest. surely that's good advice. isn't that part of the human condition, getting rid of it so we can move on? >> i'm not sure that anger is something that we need to get rid of. anger is an approach, motivation. it motivates us to do something. most of the movements in the world have been motivated by anger such as the civil rights movement or the women's vote movement. but anger is not like a foreign substance that we need to get rid of it. people assume that their only two options with anger, you express it or you stuff it inside and both of those options are not good for your health. they both can lead to cardio vascular disease but venting can lead to anger against others. but trying to understand -- if you are writing in an attempt to understand what made you angry and understand your feelings, that's okay. but if you're just expressing it to try to get it off your chest, that will probably just make things worse. >> good advice there. that was brad bushman, psychology professor at ohio state university. he gave suggestions for reducing your anger. and you can delay your actions by counting to ten or even 100 if you are particularly angry. try to relax and take deep breaths or listen to calming music and one that may not be obvious, eat healthy food. our brains need fuel to exercise self control. there you go. thanks for your company. i'm rosemary church. 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with 18% and then this is where it gets interesting because you have jeb bush with 13% followed by ohio governor john kasich right on his heels with 12. ted cruz has 10% and carly fiorina stands in fifth place with 9%. so with all of these numbers. let's go to our chief political analyst gloria borger who is here to talk about this. there are a lot of story lines. on the top, donald trump. >> right. >> not really dinged by thursday. >> right. not at all. i mean, if you look at him in iowa, he's really taken some air out of the balloon of scott walker. the thing to look at in iowa is that jeb bush is nowhere he wasn't even on your list. >> that's right. >> throw iowa back up there. you won't see jeb bush's name. in fact, jeb bush is evangelical, everyone assumed iowa was going to be for him 2.4%. rand paul, 2%. jeb bush -- jeb bush -- >> he has the fire in the belly. >> that's right. he has a passion gap. i think jeb bush, his campaign will tell you they never expected to win iowa but they have to do a little better than they are doing here in iowa. again, if you look at the new hampshire polling, jeb bush, fine. but then again, you have out of nowhere after a breakthrough debate -- >> john kasich. we'll like this. we'll like this. john kasich did very well. it was a hometown debate for him and even since, the way he's been interviewed, watching him on "the state of the union" with jake tapper, and also carly fiorina, who at one point last thursday was googled more than donald trump, they didn't know her name and now she's polling much better. >> right. and let me say something. >> yes. >> this is early. this is really early. and you have republican primary voters who were looking at these candidates. the iowa poll, 20% undecided. okay? so there's a lot of give in this polling right now. carly fiorina, they saw her at the first debate, they liked her. when they asked people, should she move up to the upper tier, people said "yes." she will raise money off of this. john kasich already has a fundraising plea out in e-mails to potential funders saying, look at how john kasich has moved up. lots of people like the way he answered the question, for example, on gay marriage. >> yes. >> he seemed to be a voice of sanity. a voice of reason. and he had a way of taking on donald trump without taking on donald trump. right? >> but on donald trump, he was on this morning, listen, he's been doing the rounds. >> sure. >> he was talking to chris cuomo and he really hit on -- in a 20-second sound bite, hit on why i think people really support him. here you go from "new day". >> i didn't sit down and draw a plan, tomorrow i'll go and have a meeting. the next day i'll go and make an offer. i went in and got turnbury. everybody wanted it. i didn't wait to get a 14-point plan. a lot of this stuff, you don't want to hear about the plans. you've got to get in and you've got to get it done. >> get it done. he just wants to get it done. yes, he's not talking specifics on policy. he said wait until the next debate for that. that resonates with a lot of voters frustrated with washington. >> right. they just want to get it done. he is anti-establishment, anti-politician, anti-washington. they like his can do, get it done attitude. all of these republicans losing altitude as a result of donald trump are going to start attacking him from the right. we're asking for specifics. we're not getting them. the other candidates are going to say, okay -- >> rand paul is attacking him. >> that's right. and they are attacking him from the right and they are saying, you're really an imposter. you are not a conservative. you just said you might fund planned parenthood, for example. you are not a true conservative because now they are losing support and the way to go after donald trump for them is saying we are more conservative than you are and the republican base needs to know that before they decide that they like him because he is not really who he says he is. that is what they are going to do. >> i'm so interested to see how the tone will change. >> right. >> the cnn debate at the reagan library. >> oh, yes. >> gloria borger, thank you so much. really appreciate it. as donald trump is quick to remind all of us, he has made his name by building and buying expensive things. and all with his name affixed front and center, trump towers, trump palace, trump park avenue. he owns golf courses and a winery and a helicopter. you with me? you get the picture? of course, he has a keen interest in taxes as well. this morning, donald trump talked about tax reform on "new day" and how he'd like to put the tax preparation conditions out of business. >> from the fair tax to every single form of tax, our tax code is too complicated and we can simplify it so -- >> how? >> using intelligence. by having commonsense. >> but what do you simplify? you make the top 30% go to 20%? >> i want to put them out of business. a person with a simple tax return can't figure it out. they have to pay a lot of money to these companies to do your tax return for you. >> so here's a little bit of the trump backstory. he got his start with his dad and his dad became successful by catering not to the wealthy and powerful but by building homes for the middle class and apartments. his father was interviewed during the 1970s and when it comes to how they made their fortunes, there's a massive contrast between father and son. julia, thank you for swinging by. >> thank you. >> i guess the first question is, let's back up. how did fred trump make his money? >> he was a developer that we don't have today. he developed primarily in the boroughs and a huge scale. he began in the depression and ended pretty much in the 1990s. >> when you look at his background and you also look at where his son has taken the business today, this is my favorite quote, you were quoted as pointing out, it's so funny that donald does all of his government attacks because his entire heritage is from the government. it seems to me that these men had very -- in the same business but very different background as far as building. very different aspirations, professionally speaking. >> yes. yes. exactly. first, in the old days, beginning in the '30s but through world war ii and post world war ii, the federal government had a gazillion programs that were very difficult and complex and fred was a master of using government programs and mixing them. that's the first thing. the second thing is, fred was not and never would be a member of what development people called the royal families. >> didn't want to be? >> couldn't have been. up there in queens and brooklyn and doing working class and middle-class housing, it was a whole different things. the donald wanted to be part of the royal families and you can only do that in manhattan and doing that building big and building skyscrapers. >> that's a lot of the base and theme of his campaign. he says, look at me, look at my success in business and this is how i would function as a president. i'm curious, though, too, about personality. you interviewed fred trump decades ago. but knowing what you knew of him and what we know of donald trump, what are the similarities? >> oh -- >> personalitywise. >> i've actually never thought about the similarities. i mainly think about the differences. >> list the differences, then. >> because fred was very reserved, he was aloof. "the new york times" once said that he was dapper but not fancy. >> dapper but not fancy? >> right. and he was quiet. he was very successful developer so he had to have a major ego practically by definition but he kept it restrained. >> and his son? >> and his son, well, pretty much not restrained. >> it was a fantastic piece in the paper this morning and to understand where his father came from and to juxtapose that with donald trump, i appreciate you coming on. >> thank you. you don't want to miss our second republican debate, the second republican debate, i should say, on september 16th at ronald reagan library. cnn will also be hosting the first -- the sixth democratic debates that is october 13th. it's live in nevada right here on cnn. coming up next, agents back on duty after the bloody arrest there of a university of virginia student. i'll speak with martise johnson and get his reaction to that news and how he's moving forward. also, what the truck driver did moments before he crashed into tracy morgan's limo. new details into that deadly accident. and a possible game changer in the world of diet sodas. why diet pepsi is getting rid of this controversial sweetener and other soda makers will follow suit. you're watching cnn. ouse at a f. you heard right, just tell us what you need done and we'll find a top rated provider to take care of it. so i could get a faulty light switch fixed? 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here's his response? >> i would hopefully not have to say much to them. but had i saw them, i would probably hope that they were conducting themselves in an applied manner and interacting with students in a very cordial manner. that's all i can hope for from these officers. >> it's only been half a year since this happened and i have no idea how many times you've seen that video of yourself there on that sidewalk in charlottesville. as you watch it today, what do you see? >> i've tried not to watch it for quite some time now so i hadn't seen it for months, to be honest. but the last time that i watched it, i couldn't finish. it was such a horrific experience for me and it's still traumatic today. so when looking back on it, all i can think about is the possibility that that could happen to another student at this university with someone across the country. in fact, that it does happen and it needs to be stopped immediately. >> i think it's worth, since i have you, to go back to that night quickly. i know the issue was you didn't have -- you had lost your most recent license. you had given them a different license that had not the corresponding zip code that they were asking you for. there was confusion over that. tell me what happened afterwards. >> so once there was the discrepancy of my i.d., i was asked to step away because he couldn't let me in because i provided an incorrect zip code. so i had a cordial conversation with the owner of the bar and was immediately grabbed from behind by the officer. at the time i didn't know that it was the officer. naturally, if someone yanks you from behind you pull away because you don't know who it is. once i realized it was an officer, he continued to pull me and grab me aside. once that happened, i got into a brief conversation and two other officers approached. one officer grabbed my other arm. a third officer grabbed me from behind and i was slammed to the ground headfirst. so i've been recently working on a piece, actually, that i plan to put out to the public in the next week or two and a big portion of that piece is the concept of sanctuary and success. and so growing up, your parents always told you, if you just do the right thing, if you do what you're supposed to do and follow these sort of paths that lead to success, you'll always be okay. you'll never have a problem and you'll be successful. and i think that i had that notion and i internalized it for a very long time at the university until my third year when i realized that i checked au all of my boxes. i made it out of the streets of chicago, i came to a prestigious university and thought i was safe and that safety bubble was bursted when this situation occurred in my life. from this point forward, i'm preaching that there is no real sanctuary in success and until we change our nation, minorities throughout the country will never be completely safe. >> you talk about changing the nation. i mean, that's an overarching notion. to be specific, we're getting geared up for this campaign season and what's been interesting to watch is the candidates. one of the questions they are now being asked is about the black lives matter movement, about police brutality, especially bernie sanders who participated in the civil rights movement decades ago. a couple of folks from the black lives matter movement took over his podium over the weekend at the same time, his new national secretary is a black advocate, strong supporter of that movement. i'm wondering, that is context, martese, what is the one question that should be asked of these candidates? >> i think that generally they just need to be asked, what are they going to do for minorities who are being killed daily? i think that they have been asked that question but nobody has sufficiently answered it yet. >> what's a sufficient answer? especially considering that the bulk -- the majority are white. >> yeah. i think that they need to implement and alter policy that will prevent one officer from being able to treat people in the way that they do and 99% of them don't get found guilty of any wrongdoing. they also need to implement more intense training. so, for instance, in virginia had just gone through diversity training on prevention of these kinds of violent instances but that's only two weeks and that won't change a lifetime of implicit bias. i think there needs to be more policy implemented towards diminishing implicit bias and promoting the safety of minorities throughout the nation. i think many of the candidates have taken steps towards that in implementing their new platforms on criminal justice but i think there needs to be a lot more work and currently i would say that bernie sanders is the best hope for the black community in the nation. >> so he's your pick so far? >> yeah. and i don't officially endorse anyone at the moment but based on the way things are going right now, what's been put out, i think bernie sanders is definitely the candidate for the black community at the moment. >> final question, martese, you're going into your fourth year at uva. what's next for you? what's your post graduation plan? >> i want to -- that's a tough question. >> that was a deep sigh. this is an exciting time for you. >> i hope to continue with my speaking engagements and hopefully influence and inspire people to push for policy change in their communities as well as support for a cultural change. aside from that, maybe a career in consulting and be able to live a normal life, to some extent. >> good luck to you. thank you for joining me, martese johnson. let's take you to ferguson, missouri. overnight, more unrest as it's been one year since the killing of michael brown. unlike the night before when a man was shot, there were no serious injuries to report today. and as the city of ferguson is really struggling to rebuild after the unrest from this past year, you can help them. just go to cnn.com/impact for ways that you can help. next, soda drinkers, you know what, diet pepsi is shaking things up, changing a recipe that millions love to drink by replacing this one key ingredient. what that ingredient is and whether it can push other soda companies like coca-cola to change as well sfoo al. also, this leaked campaign memo. what i want to talk about today is his plan for the prison at guantanamo bay in cuba. not to shut it down. something else. trump's plan, coming up. ♪"once there was a hushpuppy" by dan romis man kind?eitlin ♪ are we good? 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i think of aspartame -- maybe it's because of all of the noise -- i think of it as this evil thing put in soda. is it? >> it's been around since 1965 when the chemist first discovered it by licking his finger after finding a treatment and his finger was sweet. >> ulcer treatment and sweetener? >> i don't think that drug ever actually got into the general use. the important thing to say is it's been around for over 50 years and no human study has ever showed that aspartame is not safe. all this mass hysteria came about was after a study in the '70s looking at rats and possible health issues related to hugely toxic doses of aspartame, way, way higher than anything that was ever taken and adjusted. >> so why would, to you, branding expert, would pepsi make such a drastic change? they are going to have to say -- i'm sure they will want to say, aspartame-free. >> this is a category where people's perceptions are really hard to change and so changing the fundamental ingredient and making news out of it is a really important way to get people's attention back on the product. aspartame in and of itself, changing that ingredient, doesn't have a lot to do with the overall composition of the product but what's been happening is, the core users, the core drinkers of diet pepsi have told pepsi, we don't like this ingredient in our product and if you change it, we're less likely to choose some other soda. we're more likely to stay with pepsi. that's the message that we're getting. >> quickly, because i was curious, i was talking to my team this morning because i swore off soda years ago although if you hand me a bag of sour patch kids, that's another story. people are drinking 25% less than years ago. do you think, though, with pepsi doing, this despite what you're saying about aspartame, do you think other soda manufacturers will follow suit? >> i think they probably will and the sucralose is perceived to be safer. huge numbers of studies have been done on that as well. it's a big issue. the perception is that aspartame, studies have looked at the cancer effect, the reproductive effect, the neurological effects on nerve function and brain damage. we know it's safe but the perception is aspartame is out and sucralose is perceived to be better. i think they will follow suit. >> my executive producer has just started drinking quite a bit of diet coke would like to know how much is too much of diet soda per day? >> it's a great question. we know with aspartame, the safe limits are if you are drinking less than 21 can as day, that's what the fda -- >> less than 21 cans? >> that's absolutely crazy, so -- >> give me a real number. >> we know that everything in moderation is important. but you're going to have to drink a lot of diet soda to exceed what is deemed the safe fda levels. >> i think later i might have to tell him that you really said two. thank you both very much. really appreciate it. next, what would donald trump do in the oval office? 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>> not on current law. there's already been established legal practice for dealing with americans accused of terrorism and every other week we're seeing the department of justice, the fbi arrest americans, sympathizers, et cetera, who they then process through the u.s. court system. this is something that goes back even in the bush administration, if you remember the american taliban, as he was known, captured during the first days of the war in afghanistan. he recognized as a u.s. citizen and was processed through the american system. even people accused of terrorism, if they are americans, they have rights and they are taken to court. they are not sent to guantanamo. the only case of an american sent to guantanamo was a detainee who they did not realize was born in the u.s. until after they got him to guantanamo. it was built, in effect, for foreigners and enemy combatants and not for americans who -- one trouble with the constitution, right, is americans have rights, legal rights. >> this is something that president obama talked a lot about when he was closing gitmo. where does that stand now? >> it's something that we're reporting out today. there have been delays over the course of years. one is the number of gitmo attorneys who returned to court, one in four. the other is when those are not returned to their home countries, where do you put them? the president says that they will have a plan that they will show to congress. one thing they are considering now, brooke, is putting some of the detainees into military facilities here in the u.s., military briggs as opposed to civilian prisons but they are still working on the plans and there have been a lot of delays. >> jim sciutto, thank you so much in washington for us today on guantanamo bay. >> thank you. now to this, we're getting chilling new details about the deadly limo accident involving tracy morgan in new jersey from last june. the result of that investigation has been released they revealed how long the truck driver had been awake moments before he slammed into morgan's limousine from behind, killing comedian james mcnair and seriously injuring tracy morgan. what did they find? >> the ntsb is blaming driver fatigue for this deadly chain reaction accident that happened on the jersey turnpike last year. his name is kevin roper. he had been awake for more than 28 hours before he rearended that mercedes limo that was carrying tracy morgan. the truck slammed into the limo at a speed between 47 and 53 miles per hour. that is pretty fast. it flipped the limo on its side and set off a chain reaction crash involving 21 other people in six other cars and roper drove his personal vehicle 12 hours overnight from his home in georgia to his workplace in delaware and that was a roughly 1800-mile trip. immediately he reported for duty. investigators say that the driver didn't apply the brakes when he was on the new jersey turnpike until he was within 200 feet of the limo. they say that the delayed reaction was because he was sleepy. >> rene marsh, thank you. >> sure. next, the slender man case. two girls accused of attempted murder for trying to kill a classmate when they were only 12 years of age, preteens. we have now learned that they will be tried as adults. let's get nancy grace's take on this one. also, a sucker punch in an nfl locker room means one quarterback is going to be on the bench. no sixth grader's ever sat with the eighth grade girls. but your jansport backpack is permission to park it wherever you please. hey. that's that new gear feeling. this week, filler paper and folders just one cent. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. you premium like clockwork. month after month. year after year. then one night, you hydroplane into a ditch. yeah... surprise... your insurance company tells you to pay up again. why pay for insurance if you have to pay even more for using it? 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>> after morgan stabbed her. and he has tendrils that are very sharp. >> do you see him in your dreams? >> oh, i see him in my dreams. >> wtmj is keeping the case in adult court to prevent the release of the girls when they are 18. with me now is host nancy grace. now we know they'll be tried as adults. do you think this was the right call? >> well, absolutely. and it sounds much more harsh than it is. and i'll tell you why. and the judge set it out very plainly. if these two girls, now 13, were tried as juveniles, their sentence and their supervision and medical treatment, basically it would be a dormitory and they would live there until they are 18, which is five years and then they would walk free. they are going to be treated in the adult justice system, which means after they do their time, they will stay in juvie jail with other children until they are 18 and at that point they'll move to adult jail. but when they get out, which i would guess would be between five and seven years, they will still be monitored and treated if they show a mental instability. >> why do you think -- just on the flip side, what would defense attorneys say? how would they argue that being tried as adults wouldn't be fair? >> other than the usual blah, blah, blah, they are going to say that they are going to be subjected to inhumane treatment behind bars with adults. but the reality is -- and i've had to do this myself many, many times, brooke, treat a youth, you try them as an adult so their sentence will go on after they reach adulthood. nobody wants to see children put in jail with grown people, grown men or women. you don't want that. and that's not what is going to happen. that is a misconception. defense attorneys are going to argue that they are children and should be treated in juvenile court. and the law provides for this. >> what considerations -- i'm just wondering, you have these at the time two 12-year-old girls. what considerations are made for young people and whether they are even mentally mature enough to realize what it is they did? >> interesting thought. because that is one of the main contentions by their defense, is that their brains are not fully formed and i agree with that. i agree that you would do things at 10, 12 years old that you wouldn't do when you're 35 years old. of course. >> that's right. >> because you are not fully an adult. however, the crime of murder in this case, attempted murder, is so heinous, 19 stab wounds and not just stab wounds, they told her to lie there and go get help when in fact they did that so she would bleed out. their words, not mine. so they would not be detected. okay? that is heinous. >> and then one of the little girls i guess had a picture of her family. she really believed she wasn't going home. what a case. what a case. nancy grace, thank you so much. be sure to watch nancy weeknights on our sister station, hln, 8:00 eastern. thank you very much. next, millions of gallons of toxic waste dumped into this colorado river. it looks like orange sludge. what is this? people are worried their drinking water could be poisoned. we're talking about that coming up. also, donald trump, he opens his mouth, not quite sure what will come out. his take no prisoner approach to politics seems to be paying off. we have new poll numbers in with great news for trump's campaign. that's next. we were in a german dance group. i wore lederhosen. so i just started poking around on ancestry. then, i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. it turns out i'm scottish. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and piano tuners were just as simple? 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>> dan simon, we'll keep a close eye. thank you very much. very important to watch that. also, just in, some pretty big news out of the nfl, another fight involving a big named quarterback. the jets quarterback geno smith will miss some games after a sucker punch by a player in the locker room. rachel nichols is on the phone. >> this is unusual, unless you're a fan of the new york jets. normally nfl starting quarterbacks don't get in the words of their head coach and hit by a teammate in a locker room. they had an argument, we don't know what it was about. the head coach, todd bowles, told us it was nothing to do with football, he says. it was very childish. he said he would leave it to the parties involved to say if the players wanted to tell the media what was going on. but he did say geno smith got sucker punched. he has a broken jaw. geno smith needs surgery. he's sent a photo saying, i'll be back, a terminator reference there. we won't see him back until week three or maybe even as late as week seven of the nfl season. >> rachel, this comes a day after the whole cam newton incident. what happened there? >> well, again, it is unusual for starting quarterbacks to get involved in a tussle but it was a much more usual thing that we're used to seeing. their emotions are high and they are hitting against their teammates which is not something that they do during the regular season. and on the field, we often see a training camps in one spot or another teammates going at each other and cam newt ton's case, he was throwing a cornerback, intercepted a pass and in a way that he didn't like. they got him chased down on the field and they got into it. we're used to seeing that. we're not used to seeing something in a locker room when tempers are much more relaxed and going up and punching the starting quarterback. this is huge. >> rachel nichols, thank you so much. >> talk to you soon, brooke. >> thanks. and we'll continue on. top of the hour, i'm brooke baldwin. donald trump speaks. controversy follows and as new polls out today show, he keeps a tight grip atop the presidential race on the republican side. first, let me show you numbers from iowa. trump has pulled out ahead of scott walker. that is a switch from the two previous polls that showed walker leading trump. marco rubio has 10% followed by ben carson at 9 and cruz and carly fiorina at 7%. the boston herald and franklin pierce university poll here shows trump leading the field with 18% and they were ohio governor kasich at 12% and cruz at 10 and carly fiorina at 9. let's begin with dana bash who joins me now. here you have donald trump at the top of the polls and all of the conversations, he doesn't seem to be dinged too much. >> he really doesn't. and not just that, one of the things that, frankly, surprised me about the iowa poll was that the controversy had to do with women and then a controversy about what trump said to cnn's don lemon about megyn kelly. guess what, women actually say he should be the presidential nominee. he's winning better than anybody else in that poll. the one thing that is a little bit of a warning sign for donald trump in iowa is that 55% of the viewers in that debate said that they were less comfortable with trump as a candidate. that is a warning sign but given what i was hearing on the ground in cleveland from republican establishment figures about how poorly they thought he did pretty good for him. >> you had carly fiorina who did an excellent job and then home field advantage with john kasich, ohio governor nor and now we're seeing a bounce in the polls from the performances and especially given all of the eyeballs on the screen, people are now -- but they are learning. >> they are absolutely learning. he was barely registering in polls before that and just announced a few weeks ago, a few weeks before that debate, obviously he did well and maybe the more moderate stance he took on same-sex marriage, that he went to one, he would not judge his daughters. >>s that wa a huge applause line. >> but talking to more of the activists who work on these things, they said maybe it would hurt him. guess what new hampshire is called, a live free or die state. one of the biggest lines before the debate last week was, why isn't carly fiorina taking off more? she has a good resume and it's all about being an outsider right now, she's a woman. she did extraordinarily well in that debate and it's paying off for her in the iowa and new hampshire polls. which put her on the stage with the big boys. we'll see. no promises. >> i cannot wait until september 16th. >> i want to ask you a question about that. please, my friend, stick around. i want you to be part of this next panel. a panel of women are with me now. anchor for "the blaze," comedian judy gold and also susan is with me from manchester, new hampshire, also a supporter of the women for trump coalition. welcome, welcome, welcome to the women here. this is donald trump talking about the women who work for him. >> i have many women executives and i've always had. when i was back in the construction days, the big construction days, i had women in charge of big developments. >> do you pay them what you pay the men? >> so i was very, very pro women years ago and i have found that they are incredible executives. >> do you pay them the same? >> they are absolutely incredible executives. so i get the picture the same as anybody. >> do you pay them the same? do you pay the women at the top of your organization the same as men? >> yes, i do. absolutely. >> because that's what it comes down to. not that everybody is equal but you're equal when you deserve it. >> i pay, in many cases, the women more. i have women that get paid a lot of money. >> we laugh on the panel. by the way, we can't fact check that. private companies, and trump moved into the lead and the poll found no real gender japgap, po comments on women and the whole blood comment, we don't have to go there now and what i said now about megyn kelly, he didn't seem to be too dinged by the debate. amy, you first. >> it doesn't surprise me at all, brooke. i wouldn't accuse donald trump of being a sexist. i think he's juvenile and i wouldn't say he's a sexist and those who support him are well aware and familiar with trump's bombacity. >> susan, 30 seconds, thoughts? >> i don't believe that he keeps any secrets. he's right out there. he speaks his mind. i think people really like that about him and i certainly do. i appreciate it a lot and i believe him when he says he pays his women a lot of money and more money than he pays some of his men. and we know that there are rumors that there are other people who haven't paid their women as much as the men get, especially in the executive branch of the government right now. i know that women are not being paid the same as men and i just think that trump is right up there. people are really responding to him and i know a lot of women, myself, i communicate with all my friends and they are loving him. so -- >> okay. okay. >> i don't know what to say. he's really great. >> got you. judy gold, thoughts? >> hi, brooke. you know, look, donald trump is a personality. that's what he is. he's a personality. he's making the race exciting. come on, for a comic? this is like the greatest thing that ever happened to me. but, you know, he is who he is and we're always talking about, can you believe he said that? he says stuff like that all the time. it's the people who love him, like the woman -- the women that -- i'm fascinated more by the people who are going to vote for him because his personality is not really presidential. i can imagine him going overseas to negotiate -- his wife is a fat slob. you know, it's not how you do politics. and i just want to say, i know i'm tall and i know i'm a lesbian and i can't get a guy. i just want to -- donald. and i'm not funny. >> dana, let me bring your voice in here. >> gee, thanks, brooke. >> you're welcome. when i was watching with tapper on "state of the union" on sunday, i thought his interview with john kasich was great and trump said, listen, my campaign manager is a woman, i'm surrounded by women. whatever women touch is basically gold. paraphrasing. do you know how many women are in trump's campaign and especially in the upper echelons? >> his campaign is quite small. his spokeswoman is a woman but, beyond that, there are a lot of men but i also don't think that it's because he's not hiring women. i just don't think he's hiring many people at all. he is kind of his own adviser, his own spokesperson, his on strategist, his own everything. the one thing that i was thinking about was his daughter. >> yes. >> we all want to talk to his daughter. she is the top female -- >> can i finish? >> point of fact. the co-chair of his iowa efforts is a female and she's been very vocal is saying that she thinks megyn kelly is fair game. you saw those women who made a video saying, don't touch our trump. we love our donald. there are women who love this guy. he's basically jesse ventura with a billion dollars. >> you know, the scarier group of women are the women who will vote for rubio who believes that even if the case of rape or incest, that a woman should -- you've got to look at these people's -- >> dana? >> that's an excellent point by judy. what i've actually been hearing by some republican activists in the days after the debate is that on -- never mind kind of the personal issue that he got in with megyn kelly and so forth, but just on the issues, the issue of abortion, for example, that judy was just talking about, scott walker and marco rubio in the eyes of some republicans i've talked to, their position not wanting any exceptions of a ban on abortion, for any reason, whether it's the health of a woman, rape or incest or so forth makes then unelectable and donald trump is not there. he said to chris cuomo that he very much supports it for those reasons. >> honestly, i'm going to butt in here for a second and then -- >> go ahead. and then i have another question. >> okay. just really quick, we're not looking for a priest or a pastor. we're looking for a president. >> we're looking for a president. point taken, absolutely. and what donald trump keeps saying over and over, listen, i'm sick of this political correctness in the nation. we need to move past that. this is someone who doesn't forget things and doesn't apologize. >> right. he is who he is. he makes no apologies for it. a larger question is, they are having a debate and why did they talk about their relationship with god? that was one of the topics on the debate was god. and they don't talk about gun control. i mean, it's -- there's -- >> well, we are talking about the republican primary. >> right. >> but what led him to go there? >> republican leaning voter who is are most likely going to be second amendment voters as are all of the people on the stage. >> that's a big controversy among a republican candidate. >> right. but the question about -- >> what about trump on the contraception issue and planned parenthood, he might have made a big mistake with republican female voters this morning when he suggested to chris cuomo, your colleague, that he wouldn't necessarily want to defend planned parent hood, the things he likes, not the abortion. he's very unprepared to address issues for -- particularly, for republican primary voters. >> yeah. yeah. you think he should be specific on that? >> absolutely. >> if he was really specific on his policies and his plan, you know, perhaps we would take him more seriously. but we don't. >> or perhaps give everyone else a year and half to pick it apart. >> it's really like a reality show now. >> susan, finally to you as a trump supporter, here we are, you hear bombacity and these words being thrown around. hillary clinton yesterday called him entertainment before going on to jab jeb bush instead. what do you think? >> i think -- i'll tell you what i think about the entertainment part of it. i'm more entertained by hearing the talking heads and the people who are the experts in all of this and they are running themselves around in circles trying to figure out what it is about donald trump that is so successful and strikes a nerve so deeply and i'm entertained and happy to watch people wondering about this. i think he's straightforward, he says what he means and i'm hoping that we can have america back again and make america great again. >> can i just -- >> i think right now america is not great. >> are you raising your hand? >> yes, i'm raising my hand. >> i think the point is, no matter what he says, he gets a reaction out of everyone and that's maybe good, bad, he gets a reaction. and people are still interested. so please stay in the race so i can more jokes. >> for all comedians in america. thank you all, ladies, very, very much. appreciate it. let's do this again. coming up, he says it's one of the toughest decisions he's ever made. senator chuck schumer explains why he's voting against the deal. and the story out of michigan, have you heard about this, two state representatives caught up in this alleged sex scandal with one accused of faking an e-mail smear campaign. there is so much more to that. we'll unpack that for you. and a rapper with a massive following on the internet, lil b is making national news because he's now taking his support away from hillary clinton, rallying behind bernie sanders. we will have him join us live to discuss lil b, live on cnn. we got the new tempur-flex and it's got the spring and bounce of a traditional mattress. you sink into it, but you can still move around. now that i have a tempur-flex, i can finally get a good night's sleep. 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it would still need a whopping 44 needed in the house and 13 needed in the senate. nine are vowing to vote "no" and on the senate side, schumer appears to be the only to oppose the deal so far. he's hoping to be the next senate minority leader. i just want to bring you back, especially because of your interview days ago with president obama where you went through this in detail, if i may, if people haven't seen it, this is what he told you is on the line with regard to this deal. >> it's a complicated piece of business and we are negotiating with a regime that owes a debt to america and doesn't have a high approval rating here in the united states but the people who know most about the central challenge that we're trying to deal with, which is making sure that iran does not get a nuclear weapon, they are overwhelmingly in favor of it. >> i should point out, that was before senator schumer publicly said he would be a "no" vote. we ran through the numbers. do you think the deal is in jeopardy? >> i don't. because, first of all, you have a firewall in the house. house democrats, it's going to be very difficult to get those many house democrats to cross over not just vote against the president, vote against the party but also vote against the standard bearer of the party in 2016. remember, hillary clinton very early supported this deal. you'd be voting against hillary and the party and i don't think you'll find enough house or senate democrats either. >> what about the fact that we've heard senator schumer say they just need to start all over. that seems -- is that p preposterous? >> it's inconceivable. remember, this is a deal where first you had to put the sanctions in place. you had to get international coalition to get the sanctions in place. the united states has had sanctions again iran for 36 years. many of them stay in place. this is all about the international sanctions put in place during the obama administration. then you reach out to the iranians and then you get them to the table and the p5+1, the permanent members of the security council, russia, china, france, great britain, plus germany and they all sit down. you have to map out a coordinated position with all of these countries. so you're you can talking about other moving parts. every other nation with iran thinks this is a good deal. the u.n. security council voted 15-0 to support the deal. at this point, because the united states wants to go back, it's difficult to imagine you would be able to do that. >> you mentioned going back the firewall in the house and we know there's a contingency of congress, men and women in israel right now. just on the numbers, most notably, 22 democrats, including the number 22 ranking steny hoyer. most of them are undecided. the fact that they are in israel and this is all going on, which way will they vote, do you think that this will be a decision-making trip for them? >> look, it's entirely understandable that they should go and that people in israel are worried. israel faces a much more direct security challenge from iran than the united states. israel has many enemies in the region i think what they will discover is there are many people in israel who believe that this deal is the least of the bad alternatives that exist. the deal does a lot of things that retard the iranian program, that push it back in significant ways. they have to destroy 98% of their uranium. now, is it perfect? no. military strikes have many complications of its own. someone once said, we're in a land of lousy options and i think there are a lot of people in israel who recognize that of the lousy options, this may be the least lousy and i think it's a good idea for the house to hear that. of course, they will hear from many people in israel who are absolutely opposed to this deal. you know, which is, again, as i say, israel has real security and security concerns and it's entirely understandable they feel that way. i would just ask them, run the tape forward. you know, the last time iran walked off from the table, it had 164 centrifuges. it built up to 19,000 under international sanctions. in the year before it froze it is program during the negotiation, it built 5,000 centrifuges. so the likelihood is if they walk away, they are not going to sit back and do nothing. they are going to start building centrifuges again. that's not something that is good for the security of israel. >> fareed zakaria on the iran deal having just spoken with the president of the united states, thank you so much. love having you on the show. make sure to watch fareed every sunday morning here on cnn at 10:00 a.m. eastern, " fareed zakaria gps". coming up, a new poll showing that donald trump is maintaining his lead. and bernie sanders, look at these crowds, drawing 27,000 strong. can he turn this momentum into votes? we'll talk to one internet famous rapper who says he's leaving hillary clinton and now backing bernie sanders. plus, a sex scandal like no other. a lawmaker under investigation for allegedly devising a smear campaign against none other, himself. that's next. is rivaled only,cken cad by the goodness felt while eating one. panera. food as it should be. bottom of the hour, you're watching cnn, i'm brooke baldwin. michigan statehouse is conducting an investigation into a representative accused of faking a smear campaign all in an effort to deflect his attention over a reported affair with another state representative. let me bring in boris sanchez to explain to me all of the pieces of this puzzle. >> it's a complex story. >> yeah. >> the state representative is accused of coming up with a self-directed smear campaign to distract from an alleged affair with a fellow state representative. now investigators are looking at whether he inappropriately used funds to cover up an alleged affair. >> i will [ bleep ]. >> this is a recording, allegedly of michigan state representative todd courser. the republican making scandalous accusations about himself. >> most days he is high, stoned, on drugs and alcohol while he's supposed to be voting. in between, he has seduced and taken advantage of rep gamrat. >> this was made in secret with an aide that explained to the paper that courser can be heard reading from a draft of an e-mail that courser wrote himself. the e-mail alleged courser had sex with a male prostitute outside of a lansing nightclub. it was later sent to michigan representatives under a made-up name. >> what does this do? i need to, if possible, inoculate the herd against gutter politics that are coming. >> courser devised the e-mail after he reportedly received text messages threatening to reveal his alleged affair with fellow state representative cindy gamrat. >> he's a christian and just doesn't talk the talk but walks the walk. >> the two, who share an office, are both tea party conservatives. >> i'm a little to the right on every issue, even in the republican party. >> reporter: known for their stance on strong family values and featuring their families in their campaigns. >> together we can make a difference. our children are depending on us to get this right. >> reporter: but three days after the recording was made public, courser responded with an audio statement apologizing for his actions saying cindy had nothing to do with it and claiming that he fabricated the story and e-mail because he was being blackmailed and push to resign. he claims the whole plot was designed to smoke out the blackmailers. >> it was not my finest moment. it was the only option that i felt would be unpredicted by the blackmailer. >> reporter: serious allegations from a man who says he won't back down. >> i refuse to leave quietly and have decided that these efforts really need to come out. >> reporter: while todd courser has spoken out, cindy gamrat has not spoke about the allegations. cnn reached out to them multiple times and neither has responded. two aides were fired in july and another left his office in april. they released a joint statement saying in part, quote, attempts to blame others instead of accepting responsibility is unfortunate. most important, an investigation will reveal the truth. there is absolutely no truth to the accusations against us by mr. courser, as will be proven. i spoke to somebody at the statehouse who said that this investigation will take quite some time. >> boris sanchez, thank you so much. coming up, does hillary clinton have a bernie sanders problem? >> tonight, with the overflow crowd, we have more than 27,000 people! [cheers and applause ] >> on the same day, bernie sanders packed 27,000 supporters, he picked up a major union endorsement and a rap artist switches alliances from hillary clinton to sanders. this rapper is making the headlines today. he joins me to explain why he's now supporting sanders for president. i'm ready to crack like nobody's watching. why? because it's red lobster's crabfest. and there's so much crab, so many ways. and with dishes like this luscious crab lover's dream or savory snow crab bake. i'm just getting started so hurry in and get crackin' because 100% whole grain oats are incredibly good for you. because they're heart healthy because they're good for kids. and granddads and everyone else in the family. everything we do is because of what really matters most. the goodness of oats and the people we love. no sixth grader's ever sat with but your jansport backpack is permission to park it wherever you please. hey. that's that new gear feeling. this week, filler paper and folders just one cent. office depot officemax. gear up for school. gear up for great. boy: once upon a time, there was a nice house that lived with a family. one day, it started to rain and rain. water got inside and ruined everybody's everythings. the house thought she let the family down. but the family just didn't think a flood could ever happen. the reality is, floods do happen. protect what matters. get flood insurance. visit floodsmart.gov/flood to learn more. all right. 25-year-old rapper lil b doesn't have a record deal but you may recognize him from this. ♪ >> moderately famous hit called "van." he has youtube posts netting 60 million views, a catalog featuring thousands of songs, more than a million twitter followers including this man here. ♪ presidential candidate bernie sanders talking about lil b. in it, a nod to the now presidential candidate hillary clinton. the song a tad too inappropriate to play here on cnn but includes this rap endorsement. shoutout to hillary clinton, you going to win that presidency. but it's short lived. as much as i want a woman leading the usa right now, it's all about bernie sanders. he's the real deal. he loves us. hi, lil b. >> hi. >> thank you for joining us. you resonate among so many people, including the black lives matters movement and, if i may, i think the new yorker wrote about you a couple years ago summed it up the best. "lil b is the strangest rapper. he has no record deal but he is a celebrity on the internet." lil b, for people who have never heard of you, why do you think you're so influential when it comes to politics issues. >> to be honest, my range reaching everybody from the poorest of the poorest to the richest of the richest to the middle class. just me being honest and spreading love through music, having fun and, you know, just really being myself, priding myself on being myself, you know. >> in being yourself and in being honest, you have now made national news by declaring your support for bernie sanders and pulling away from hillary clinton. why did you switch? >> well, you know, the people that support lil b and support my music, they are so eccentric and have different viewpoints. when people bring things to my attention, i start to really pay attention because i know these people are special and have different viewpoints. a lot of people started talking to me about bernie sanders and they are like, hey, you need to pay attention to him and this is from all of the candidates, from republican to democratic. and i started paying attention a little bit more and, you know, really seeing that bernie was a part of fighting against segregation, that was something that really touched my heart and i appreciated because, most likely i don't think that was cool for him to do that back then but he still marched. as well as i heard he was for free education, which that makes me so happy because there's a lot of poor kids that might want to learn, that actually do want to learn and -- but just like health care, people are scared to go to the doctor because the bill will be so expensive. and i know for a fact that there is free education and that will lower black on black crime, you know what i mean, and crime in general. >> i hear you. all of these issues. so the people who love you so much are bringing these issues to your attention. granted hillary clinton just did unveil a college education program that would be loan-free. i hear you on bernie sanders, especially when it comes to his involvement in the civil rights movement. here's my next question. why do you think the black lives matter movement continues to interrupt her at events? also, important to mention, though, his -- bernie sanders' national press secretary is a black criminal justice advocate and is a supporter of the black lives movement. >> well, i think bernie handled the black lives matter demonstration, i think he handled it very classy. he didn't leave the stage. he let them speak. he was on stage with these ladies that felt the urgency to really speak and, you know, there's a lot of issues in the african-american community, the black community, whatever you identify with. and they need to be spoken about. a lot of people suppress these things. i am a victim of suppressing these things. i tend to turn the cheek on black violence because i've been -- it's been normalized to me. you see a black person get killed and you're like, oh. and i feel horrible about that. so i commend the people that are taking a stance and fighting. there's times where i actually do feel horrible and i do want to take a stance. it's just that i've been so desensitized and it's a frustrating position to be in. my mom calls me a republican sometimes and i'm like, i don't know about that. >> let me stay on that. it's important that you bring that up. and i think it's also, you know, noteworthy that a lot of these different candidates on both sides, the democrats and republicans are getting asked this question about the black lives movement, about race, about police brutality, a number of stories we've been covering for the best part of the last year. when you listen to these candidates, how do you judge which candidate gives the best answer for you on that? >> just really seeing which candidate goes -- who are they with the people, you know, just trying to see and with the people i mean the youth, the african-american people, the people that they call immigrants. or minorities. and that is where it hurts my feelings because i consider myself american but when i have to fill out a job application, i have to either pick african-american or black or something like that. which all ends up being statics and it's confusing. but -- so when i judge these candidates, i really just try to look at their authenticity because we're all judging and it's sad that we do that and we categorize. >> we do. we judge. >> yeah. i'm a victim of it because i judged hillary clinton. you know what i mean? and i'm not against hillary clinton. i support the clinton legacy. bill clinton, i support him so much that i love hillary on top. but -- >> you know, can i ask you, since you brought up hillary clinton, to use your word, is she cursed? >> right. can you repeat that, please? >> to use your word, is hillary clinton, now that you're not supporting her, is she cursed? >> hillary clinton is not cursed. >> there you. >> no. all love to hillary. >> thank you so much. >> good luck. >> yeah, thank you. love. >> we'll be right back. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months. and otezla's prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. otezla may increase the risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. side effects may include diarrhea, nausea, upper respiratory tract infection, and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take, and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ask your doctor about otezla today. otezla. show more of you. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, carpenters and piano tuners were just as simple? 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all right. fine. i'm gonna get something to eat. the boy's kind of a drama queen. just wait. where's my burrito? [ chuckles ] worst apocalypse ever. protecting you till the end. now, that's progressive. we're learning new details about the crash that injured tracy morgan and killed james mcnair last year. the time of the crash, walmart truck drover kevin roper had been awake for 28 hours and driving 20 miles per hour over the speed limit. it happened when roper slammed into the back of a limo carrying morgan, mcnair and several others. he has been charged with death by auto and four counts of assault by auto. and before i show you this next video, keep in mind we are showing it to you because i can tell you this guy survives. it's tough to watch, keep your eye on the highlighted bike on the left of your screen. >> that guy's hurt. >> i don't care how many times you watch that, it's just -- the first cyclist, he broke several ribs, punctured a lung, fractured his pelvis. other than all of that, he is okay. that was the support vehicle that he slammed into, it happened on a mountain during the tour of utah. okay. enough, before i go, you don't want to miss the second republican debate on september 16th at the ronald reagan library in california, and cnn will be hosting the first of the six democratic debates, the october 13th debate live from nevada right here on cnn. that does it for me here in new york, i'm brooke baldwin, thanks for being with me. see you back here tomorrow. in the meantime, keep it on cnn, "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. he seems to get stronger each time he tram bells on the political playbook, now, donald trump tells cnn, that's his campaign strategy. i'm jake tapper this is the lead. the politics lead, news for those of you tired of hearing donald trump speak. now says he's going to keep wining and wining until he wins. the new iowa poll shows this strategy might be just crazy enough to work. the world lead. what north korea has been up to, while the world has been focusing on iran. why melting snow may reveal a major upgrade to

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that shook the ground miles away and the rush to save lives right now. good afternoon, everyone, our politics lead lesson number one in candidate training school, at least for right now in this presidential election cycle. i'm going to teach it free of charge -- repeat -- i am not a politician by profession. that worked so well for one guy, he became the standard by which all other reps measure. that was ronald reagan. that pitch is working for candidates right now. perhaps because voters are so angry at washington. you can understand how the three people in the republican field who had never before held office are winning more and pour support. donald trump is on top. dr. ben carson and carly fiorina rising up. no apparent damage done? >> the big numbers, all good news for mr. trump. let's look at the number, just releasing now, 22%. moved him up a second place. p third play now, for scott walker. jeb bush is dropping down into the middle of the pack, and the mention the carly fiorina, the breakout performance in the second-tier debate, now now in the top. if you said to see one warning sign for mr. trump, it's here, 27% of men, only 15% of women. perhaps some damage here from the showdown with fox's megyn kelly. he likes to tell us he went to the best school. the support, though, the highest and those who have not tanneded colleges. here's an interesting point, jake. mr. trump has spoken favorably about single payer health care, and yet he's leading the pack among those who say they are tea party supporters. if you are mr. trump, thanks so much for calling in it doesn't seem to matter who you offend. are you at all surprised? >> i'm not really looking to offend people, jake, it seems to be every once in a while that will happen. i think i was mistreated a bit, but that's okay. i'm honored by your call, and -- so it's a great honor. now he's in third place behind you and behind dr. ben carson. why do you think carson is rising? if you look at wisconsin, they have some problems, some deficits. that's a lot different than the billion they were supposed to make. there's been a lot of divisiveness, dissension. it's a great state, i love the state, but it's not been an easy journey. you're right about a month ago, i was actually number two, i think i was number three, now number one by quite a margin. so i'm honored by that. >> we have a target on your back, you and senator rand paul have sparred a bit in the past couple week. his campaign is going hard after you, using some of your own words again you in a new tv ad that they say will begin airing night. we'll run a brief snippet, i'd love your take. >> hillary clinton is a terrific woman. i'm biased, because i've known her for years. i've been around for a long time, and it just seems that the economy does better under the democrats than the republicans. >> i wanted to give you an opportunity to respond to rand paul's ad, your words praising hillary clinton -- this is more than ten years ago, but how you identify more as a democrat. >> sure, if you look at hillary clinton, i contribute to everybody. i was a world-class businessman, built a net worst of more more than $10 billion, and i contributed to everybody. frankly, the people in the tea party who i love so much and they seems to like me so much, everybody understands that. i have to go for whatever it is. if i did not -- i'm not saying this is a good things for the country, jake, but if i go in for a meeting and i let's say stuff somebody, as the expression goes, when they come up to my office all of a sudden they don't get treatment. so i don't think it's a great thing for the united states. i'm not sure the system should work that way, but as a businessman, i did what other businessmen did, and i contributed to everybody. everybody took my call and i got what i wanted. if i go back in two years, three years, four years, they remember that. that's important. as far as other elements are concerned of, you know, what you're saying, it's all old stuff, all old hat, and i think that's been well vetted. rand paul is failing in the polls, he's weak on the military, pathetic on military. he calls me a year ago, oh, let's play golf, can we go and play golf? i ended up playing golf with him probably seven, eight months ago. he couldn't have been nicer, he wanted my support, he wanted to know if i would contribute to his doctor situation, which is very good, where he helps children with the eyes. i think he's a far better doctor than a senator, and, you know, it's -- i mean, it's fine, they're trying to do a bit of a number. the last two people that did it were lindsey gravm. he's right now at zero, and rick perry was at 4%, he came at me really hard, and he went down to 2, and look rand's campaign is failing. hasn't his whole team been indicted? >> i think that's the super-pac supporting him. >> yeah, they've been indicted, so he's a mess, no question about it. >> we're told that you told "the chicago sun times" you would strongly consider a woman as your running mate, should you get the nomination. is there any particular woman or women on your short list? >> no, they asked me the question, and it was a terrific reporter, somebody i have a lot of respect for, and i said very openly i would be very, very delighted if it were the right person, but it would be a great honor to have a woman as a running mate. if we had the right person, i would certainly consider that. it's obviously too soon to think about it. they immediately wanted to know who, but i would certainly consider it. this week hillary clinton responded to news of your campaign. take a listen. >> where was secretary of state clinton in all of this? like the president himself, she had opposed the surge, then joined in claiming credit for its success. >> that was jeb bush, and not hillary clinton. i apologize for that, but the democratic -- >> it sort of works, and i'll tell you why. unlike jeb bush, unlike the brother who got us into the whole war, i was totally opposed to the war. you look at 2004 in reuters, headline -- trump opposes war in the iraq. i'm the most militaristic person you will ever meet. however you have to know when to go and how to use it. iran will take over iraq, lots of bad people like isis will take over the oil. that's exactly what happened. and i'm the only one, of all of the candidates running, i am the only one, the absolute only one that opposed the war. so, you know, one of those things, and you could call that vision, to be honest with you, jake. you could call that vision. >> i appreciate your rolling with the p punches and responding to the jeb bush video. i want to get your response to something that hillary clinton had to say about the campaign. take a listen. >> it's all entertainment. i think he's having the time of his life, you know, being on the stage, sake whatever he wants to say, getting people excited both for and against him. i didn't know him that well. i mean, i knew him. i happened to be planning to be in florida. i thought it would be fun to go to his wedding, because it's always entertaining. now that he's running for president, it's at more troubling. what is your reaction? >> she right about one thing. i am enjoying it, as you heard, last name we were in michigan. we had 3,000 people and they turned away a tremendous number of people, because the place couldn't hold anymore. it was absolutely fabulous evening, and it was, you know, standing ovations all over the place. i talked about the wall, talked about china with the devaluation of their currency, which they did yesterday, which is shocking they can get away with this. what they are doing with us is unbelievable with the devaluation, taking the money right out of our pocket and we have people who don't know what they're doing. we talked about the iran deal, how pathetic that deal is. we had a good time talking about horrible subjects, to be honest with you. there's not a lot 9 good news for the united states. >> any response to hillary clinton saying that you've gone from entertaining to troubling? >> i think the poll numbers indicate that maybe it's troubling for her. i think i would be her worst nightmare in a sense. i think nobody has tougher on hillary. i said a long time to you, long before this came up with the fbi the last few days, what she did is a criminal act. there's no question about the fact that it's a criminal act. you look at general petraeus, they destroyed his life over something much less. the documents were much less important, much less high level. what she did is a real problem forrer her. i don't know frankly she'll be able to run, because it looks to me the whole e-mail thing is a very criminal situation, and it could cause problems for years to come. >> i'm being told you have to go. i appreciate your calling in and taking mice questions as always. >> again. and thank john. >> i will. thank you. one man is focused on one early voting state. john kasich is in new hampshire and the way governor talked to cnn just moments ago, sharing his position on a key issue that has divided his party. we will have his conversation, next. big day? 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why have you moved on from it? >> because i think it's -- because i'm -- when i think about it, i don't believe it should be a fundamental part of this whole thing. i think it remains dividing, to be honest with you. look, congressman from ohio, somebody says that somebody comes in illegally and they have a kid, i think we need to get over that. these people who were born here, be citizens and that's the end of it. >> you know, sometimes -- what made you change. >> knowledge. >> was there a moment? >> no, no don't make too much about it. >> i'm just curious. >> i'm telling you it's not a big deal. it doesn't strike me as the right thing to do now, that i better understand the whole issue. >> reporter: so the way that mol politicians say it, he evolved on that issue, but watching him in his town hall which he had just before our interview, which was a classic setting in a new hampshire diner, he's having a great time. obviously it helps to be doing well in the polls. as you mentioned, he went from almost not register to third, almost second in new hampshire thanks to the debate performance he had last week, but he really does talk -- as somebody who has been in politics for a very long time, he tends to talk like a person, if people out there understands what that means and that allows him to connect with people. >> dana bash, thank you so much. let's bring in jeff zeleny, the odds-on establishment favorite, hillary clinton and jeb bush a few months ago. this is not playing out the way they thought it would, and they're going to have to start addressing the candidates that they initially regarded, and i don't know that they can anymore, as spoilers. >> i think it's definitely fair to say by now the script has been flipped on this 2016 campaign. it's important to remember it's only summer, but for now at least the establishment candidates are having a bumpy, bumpy ride. soaring summer for bernie sanders, front-page news today, vaulting over hillary clinton in new hampshire. his populist cry is catching on. >> we have a message to the billionaire class, and that message is -- you can't have it all. >> reporter: his candidacy is taking off. for the first time, a new franklin pierce university poll shows him with a seven-point edge over clinton, all this as clinton faces new questions about the private e-mail server. she's agreed to surrender it to the justice department. it's given sanders an opening to be a potential spoiler of the 2016 campaign, and he's not alone. >> the president of the united states. these spoilers are upsending the race, sending them to the back burner, at least for now. >> jeb and hillary on the same day said donald trump has too strong a tone. the world is cracking up, and they're worry about my tone. >> bush turned his attacks to clinton last night in a speech on iraq at the reagan library. >> where was secretary of state clinton in all of this? like the president himself, she had opposed the surge, then joined in claiming credit for its success. >> instead of challenging sanders, clinton is fixated on bush and the gop field. >> i have to draw a contrast with the candidates on the other side of the aisle. >> while trump is used to the spotlight, it's a new phenomenon for sanders, the 73-year-old vermont senator, who proudly calls himself a democratic socialist. he rallies draw more than 100,000 people in recent weeks are the biggest of any 2016 candidates. >> are they underestimating bernie sanders? >> people have often underestimated me. i'm in this race and we're running to win. bernie sanders is smiling a lot these days, drawings some of the biggest crowds yet, but it's important to remember it's not only a national campaign that starts, so sanders, trump and other surging candidates must build an organization to sustain them into the winter months when it really counts, but both sanders and trump heading to iowa this weekend. they're on the to a pretty good start. >> i like the fatherly pat. they always underestimate me. thank solve. is this e-mail and private server situation hurting hillary clinton's chance toss win the white house? 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>> the justice department asked for it, as part of a security referral by the intelligence community to ensure there was no compromise of sensitive information, so clinton handed it over before it was taken, but it is something she had initially resisted. answering justice department concerns about the security of her private e-mail serve, hillary clinton is now turn it over along with a thumb drive of work-related e-mails. her spokesman says the former secretary of state pledged to cooperate with the inquiry and will answer any remaining questions. in march, a defiant clinton refused to turn it over to a house panel. >> the server contains personal communication from my husband and me, and sfep i believe i have met all of my responsibilities, and the server will remain private. >> today the republican chair of that committee was unimpressed. >> about damned time was my initial reaction. we asked her in march to turn it over to a neutral, detached arbiter. >> this amid new disclosures from the intelligence community. two e-mails contained top secret information, but the info was never moarked classified, and clinton may not have known it should remain on a secure server. >> i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there's no classified material. >> clinton told cnn last month the controversy would not damage her presidential campaign. >> i trust the american voter 100%, because i think, you know, the american voter will weigh these kinds of accusations. >> but as the e-mail probe expands to her former state department staff, a new monmouth university poll finds that more than half the registered voters think the e-mail should be sunday to an investigation. an opportunity for concerneder to excite their base, governor scott walker saying, quote -- hillary clinton put her own personal convenience ahead of the safety and security of the american people. >> and tonight the clinton camp sent out a message to supporters, trying to clear up what they call misinformation, and asking them to help set the record straight. clinton has said she wiped the server clean. that does not mean there is not recoverable information. that's what the justice department wants to determine, as well as what kind of system it was, and whether there was any indication any information was improperly secured. >> all right. elite labott, thanks so much. let's talk about this with co-host of the podcast the pollsters, margie, and kevin -- margie, you just had a baby seven weeks ago. look at you, already in the studio, you look fantastic. congratulations. let me start with you, do you think the clinton team has handled it well? >> i think they have. you see them cooperating with the fbi, you see them being open and talking about it. i think the challenge here, a lot of folks want to tie what's happened today with what's going on with polls numbers, with what's going on in new hampshire, and what's going on with bernie sanders. i'm not sure they're all related. it's not really how a lot of voters are processing the race. >> kevin, you would disagree i imagine? >> they are absolutely related. when hillary clinton, when this news first broke, she was riding high, not even the presumptive gnome near. what we are seeing steadily the trendline is more and more americans question her trust worthiness, question whether or not she's hiding something. as a result, you see bernie sanders bleeding in the pohe -- leading in the polls. the clinton campaign has done two things in the beginning. they tried to demonize anyone who was a critic, and then tried to distract. look at the polls. americans care about this. >> margie, i just spoke with donald trump. he said he would be hillary clinton's largest nightmare. who do you think she would least like to face? >> i don't know. i think right now you have a field that's having a hard time getting traction. you have donald trump leading, just a sign of how unhappy people are with the field, the fact that something has no experience, a former democrat who says completely outrageous things about women, recently, regularly, is leading the field just shows how lackluster the field currently is. >> and a socialist leading the democrat field in one state. so i'm actually surprised that -- i think most of the democrats are worried about marco rubio. hillary clinton seems tore trying to put together that coalition that obama was so successful with. >> also some something of a washington republican establishment figure. what's going on? donald trump is cleaning the clock of everyone. and like all of them must be sitting here going what in the heck is going on? >> yeah, you mentioned it at the top of the show. it's anti-politician. so many voters right now, they want something that's counter to the status quo. the other thing, too, is they're putting a premium on someone who is a fighter. right now donald trump seems to have the most fight, seems to be the most disruptive to the political system. many americans look unfavorably upon that. >> do you think this is part of the sanders phenomenon, in places like new hampshire, where he's drawing the biggest crowds? >> it is cnn poll that just capes out, 15% of republicans say they have decided. there's still a lot of time for people to move around. if you look at" the boston herald" there they had two thirds of sanders ease voters saying they support him, because they support his positions on the issues. i don't think that's why trump is doing well. the other polls i've seen is the attitude they like. for sanders, at least from the polls i've seen, they like his position. >> i think they feel he's more authentic progressive. given the fact that hillary clinton spent the last year giving speeches on wall stre street, she has a hard problem getting to the relatability and connecting with a lot of voters where the energy is on the left. let me play a little bite from donald trump. he was asked about the incident over the weekend when two black lives matters protesters interrupted a rally in seattle? >> yes, sir, gave up a microphone. >> i would never give up my microphone. i thought that was disgusting. that showed such weakness, the way he was taken away by two young women. they just -- i felt badly for him. but it showed that he's weak. you know what? he's getting the biggest crowds and i am. we're the two getting the crowds, but believe me that's not going to happen to trump. >> i don't know that donald trump is feeling the burn, as they say, but going after bernie sanders pretty hard there. >> look, sanders had -- he wanted to be inclusive. trump is looking at this in terms of who's got the power in this interaction and what's my media strategy and what's my tactic, which is not how voters want their president to be. whoever the candidate, they want people who are going to be wanting to hear what people have to say, what voters have to say. >> margie omehra, kevin, thank you so much. what an interesting election season. new images from china showing the force of a major explosion. we know one strong blast triggered a series of others. now we are learn of several people hurt, if not worse. the latest information coming in, coming up next. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain. and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis from the inside out ...with humira. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further joint damage and clear skin in many adults. doctors have been prescribing humira for nearly 10 years. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis serious,sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. visit humira.com and talk to your rheumatologist. humira. this is a body of proof! hiking brought us togetherdom hikers. but that's not the only thing that keeps us coming back. here's to friends who reach for better. fewer carbs, fewer calories, superior taste. michelob ultra. the superior light beer. we don't use msg, bha, bht or partially hydrogenated oils. why? 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slaughter isn't just painful to us. it's unconscionable. >> that was senator chris murphy of connecticut there. he led the filibuster. he says this morning that it worked. that republicans have agreed to some key concessions. we'll tell you what those are and whether they really matter. that is ahead. also on our agenda, just be quiet. a frustrated donald trump with a message for republican leaders who aren't on board with his hard line response to orlando. >> just be quiet. because they have to get tougher. they have to get sharper and smarter. we have to have our republicans either stick together or let me just do it by myself. i'll do very well. >> the presumptive republican nominee seeing some republicans turning their back on him after his controversial remarks threatening once again now to go it alone. and also rounding out our agenda this morning, the latest out of orlando, florida. president obam avice president joe biden traveling to that city today to meet with the families of the victims of that attack last weekend. new information this morning on the gunman to tell you about. and also police recovering the body of 2-year-old lane graves. he was attacked by an alligator at the walt disney world resort. did disney do everything it could have to keep people safe, to keep that family safe? all that and much more still ahead. we'll begin with our top story. an old-fashioned filibuster on the floor of the u.s. senate. it wrapped up early this morning. senate democrats saying they have won concessions from republicans on gun control. connecticut's chris murphy whose state was the scene of the horrific sandy hook school massacre four years popping he took to the senate floor wednesday afternoon and stayed there for 14 hours and 50 minutes, finally standing down at 2:11 in the morning this morning next to a picture of one of the students killed at sandy hook, 6-year-old dylan hockley. >> this has been a day of questions. and so i ask you all this question. if anne marie murphy could do that, then ask yourself, what can you do to make sure that orlando or sandy hook never, ever happens again. with deep gratitude to all those who have endured this very, very late night, i yield the floor. >> murphy says republicans who control the senate have now agreed to hold two votes on gun control measures. first, a vote on closing the so-called gun show loophole and expanding the background check system. and second, a vote to prohibit those who are on the government's terror watch list from being able to purchase firearms. our reporters are covering all angles of this story this morning. let's go first to capitol hill. nbc's luke userussert has the details on what democrats say is a win for them. let's start with these two votes. one on the terror watch list. one on background checks. the questions are, if you have the votes, it's still the republican senate. will they pass? even if they pass, you have a republican house. is this still going to go anywhere? >> let's start with your second question. that's the most important. whatever comes out of the senate would have to go through a republican-led house and it's safe to say if there were to be some sort of bipartisan compromise, really has a possibility of being watered down. and we've seen that on a whole bevy of issues. 14 republicans voted for a bipartisan immigration bill. there was a lot of hope something like that would go through the house, and it was dead on arrival. these two votes are significant. the one about no-fly, no buy, there has been some movement to have a bipartisan bill regarding those if they are on the terrorist watch list not to be able to buy guns. this is something john cornyn of texas put forward an idea on. dianne feinstein has had an idea about it. yesterday pat toomey, republican senator from pennsylvania, put forward his idea. if the vote sothe feinstein amendment it will probably go down. if it's on something more bipartisan and able to pick up mark kirk of illinois who has been supportive of this in the past, those vulnerable republicans from blue or purple states, ayotte, johnson, portman, it's certainly a possibility. the manchin/toomey proposal about closing the gun show loophole and more stringent background checks for private sales has gotten a lot of opposition over the years, steve. >> we always look at these tragedies and say is it going to change anything, break up the opposition that's always been there from one side of this. maybe change the way supporters approach it. when you look at the republicans who have been opposed to these gun measures in the past, are you seeing movement from them you haven't previously seen? >> i think it's fair to say those from the vulnerable senate seats definitely do not want to look like they support terrorists being able to purchase guns. and they realize that even if they have these votes, democrats can make some very nasty ads against them that would be very hurtful if they get into a fight about due process and legalese. all that being said, the nra is the single most powerful lobby on capitol hill. they have members that if they tell them to say yes, they say yes. if they tell them to jump, they ask how high. the nra wants to do something, they'll do it to the republican party on capitol hill. it's very difficult to break that logjam. >> luke russert on capitol hill. thanks for that. speaking of the nra and its role in all of this, donald trump, the presumptive republican nominee, announcing yesterday that he will meet with the nra soon and suggesting that he may be pushing the group to support that measure luke was just talking about. a ban on those on the terror watch list buying guns. the nra has previously opposed legislation to do so on the grounds that law-abiding individuals can land on that federal terror watch list without any due process. and then not have any recourse to get off of that list, even if they've done nothing wrong. trump also holding his position that more people carrying guns could prevent massacres like the one in orlando. >> if some of those great people that were in that club that night had guns strapped to their waist or strapped to their ankle, and if the bullets were going in the other direction aimed at this guy who was just open target practice, you would have had a situation, folks, which would have been always horrible but nothing like the carnage that we all as a people suffered this weekend. >> comments like that from trump coming as another republican governor, this time larry hogan of maryland. that's obviously a very blue state. saying yesterday that he will not support donald trump for president this fall. hogan telling "the washington post," quote, i guess when i get behind the curtain i'll have to figure it out. maybe write someone in. i'm not sure. let's bring in msnbc's hallie jackson. luke russert just set this up and said when it comes to congress and what, if anything, it's going to do on gun issues in the wake of orlando, a huge factor here is what the nra does. and here's donald trump suggesting maybe, maybe it's always difficult to read into what these tweets mean but suggesting he may try to prod the nra on this issue of the terror watch list. >> it's an issue there's daylight between donald trump and the nra. we know trump met with the executive director of the nra in new york earlier this week and those tweets about another upcoming meeting. trump's endorsement, or the nra's endorsement of trump is something they talk about often on the campaign trail. even given their differing positions on the no fly, no buy rules or potential bill, will trump's influence trickle down into congress and the senate? i talked with senator joe manchin this morning. and senator manchin said -- made the point which is valid that there is plenty of daylight between trump and his fellow republicans on capitol hill. you've seen that over these last two weeks. you are seeing that with, for example, the daylight between larry hogan, some of these other blue state governors like charlie baker from massachusetts, who have not been able to back donald trump yet. so when you talk about his influence on sort of this issue when it comes to congress, the question is, how much will he have? so far the answer seems to be not much. >> it's interesting, too, because either this mix with donald trump of these very hard line positions, very hard line pronouncements that sometimes can get him into trouble or at least stir up controversy but at the end of the day, if what he's teasing yesterday does play out, you'd have the spectacle of a republican nominee being at odds with the nra. that's something that's been unimaginable. >> and at odds with a lot of people within his own party. people he's representing now in his bid for the white house. so now this comes back to what donald trump has been talking about or what he's been speaking to or representing for a while now which is at points on certain issues, a very different position than members, the mair majority of his party, at least the establishment elite. >> hallie jackson in washington, thanks as always. meanwhile, when it comes to the democratic, the presumptive democratic nominee, hillary clinton on the trail yesterday going after trump for his rhetoric, calling him, quote, temperamentally unfit. >> not one of donald trump's reckless ideas would have saved a single life in orlando. it's just more evidence that he is temperamentally unfit and totally unqualified to be commander in chief. >> for more let's bring in nbc's kristen welker. when you just do the bottom line on this, you look at the polling in this race, this has been a good week politically for hillary clinton. she's moved ahead significantly in some polls. a new one out yesterday that had it at 12. she's opened up a bigger lead. her campaign is going on the offensive with new ads in battleground states. >> this has been a good week for secretary clinton. no doubt about that. secretary clinton off the campaign trail today but ramping up her general election campaign releasing $7.3 million in ads in battleground states. this is her first big ad blitz in the general election in these states. let's take a look at some of those states. virginia, ohio, iowa, colorado, new hampshire, florida, north carolina and nevada. so this really covers a broad swath. some of the ads are going to be hitting donald trump. but a lot of them, in fact, most of them are going to be these new bio ads that are just out today aimed at reintroducing people to secretary clinton and increasing her favorability ratings. that's been an issue for her in this campaign. take a listen to one of the ads just out today. >> for hillary, it's always been about kids. and when millions couldn't get health care, this first lady worked with republicans and democrats to fix it. creating the children's health insurance program. >> so that every child gets the health care that child deserves to have. >> now 8 million kids are covered. that's the kind of leader she is. and the kind of president she'll be. >> so as hillary clinton focused on the general election, senator sanders still in this race. he has not dropped out yet. in fact, this evening, he is holding an online discussion with some of his grassroots supporters and it is being dubbed the revolution continues. >> kristen welker in washington, thanks for that. coming up, president obama and vice president biden are set to depart in about an hour for orlando. they'll be meet with survivors and families of the victims. chris jansing is there ahead of those meetings. later, republicans backing away from trump as his unfavorable numbers rise. trump says he can win it by himself. can he go it alone and win in november? 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indicated you wanted to get there. you weren't there yet. in the time since then, the last six weeks, have you moved closer or further from backing donald trump? >> my fear is that donald trump is the head of the narcissist party rather than the head of the republican party right now. i think that he's being very selfish. the republican party is a broad inclusive party, probably best defined by speaker paul ryan right now and the agenda he has. it includes a lot of wonderful people like kelly ayotte in new hampshire and rob portman in ohio. we've got wonderful republican leaders that we should be talking about. donald trump cannot win it all by himself. and he should be lifting everybody else to victory, not just folk cusing on the selfish aspects of a donald trump narcissist. i want to see him demonstrate he's a republican. i'm giving him a chance, but he has not earned my confidence right now. and i am ready to work very hard for the republican party. and especially for the agenda paul ryan has put forward. >> if he sat down and said, andy, i want your support. i want to earn your support? what's the one thing you'd tell him the most important thing to do is? >> to have the courage to listen honestly to advice from other people. taste his words before he spits them out. and demonstrate that it's not all about him. it's all about leading this great country. and making sure the republican party is best positioned to have not only a republican president and a republican vice president, but a republican infrastructure that can be supportive in the house and the senate to ride real direction and optimism. the american party is the party of optimists and entrepreneurship and i'm going to say compassion. and so far donald trump has not demonstrated the broad expectations that we have as republicans, not only for the republican party but more importantly for the united states of america. i want him to demonstrate that he understands that the united states can't be alone in the world. we've got to be part of a relationship with other nations that have common interests. and we should be the maker of those common interests and invite other people to join us for the better good for all americans and everyone around the world. and donald tends to be a divider, not a uniter. we've had a divider as president. i want to see a uniter as leader of the republican party so we can have a uniter as president again. something i've witnessed republican presidents do. ronald reagan, george h.w. bush and even george w. bush even was a uniter. he brought the world together to fight for causes very important not only to the united states but also to the greater world. >> there has been some talk in the last couple of days as donald trump as these poll numbers have started to go pretty sour for him. there's been some talk that, hey, look. he's not the official republican party's nominee for president. still has to get through the convention. some talk there could still be a movement to deny him the republican nomination this summer. do you think there is any prospect of that? >> i tend not to believe that's a viable expectation that any republican could have right now. i think there should be a discussion about what we should be doing to make sure the republican party is strong moving into the fall elections. but it's not just about winning the presidency. it's also about doing well with our house and senate candidates and holding on to the house and holding on to the senate. we have an agenda paul ryan has outlined that's exciting for america and one the republican party can stand behind. i hope donald trump will stand with that agenda and help to bring it to reality. >> andy card is the former white house chief of staff. currently the president of franklin pierce university. thanks for the time. appreciate it. some breaking news just coming in. we want to tell you about. we are learning the search for egyptair flight 804 has now yielded the flight's cockpit voice recorder. the black box that has been located. let's go to nbc's bill neily in london. what do we know? >> well, this is potentially the biggest breakthrough so far in the search for the cause of why egyptair 804 twisted from the sky and plunged into the mediterranean. it's just broken in the last few minutes. we understand the cockpit voice recorder, one of the two black boxes has now been found. the egyptians have produced a statement saying that the john leathbridge, which is the ship specifically charged with trying to find those flight recorders. the "john leathbridge" has found the cockpit recorder. it was damaged but they retrieved the party that contains the memory unit. the box itself is damaged but the memory unit appears not to be damaged but that will now be brought back to cairo where investigators, french, egyptian investigators also from the u.s. will look at that cockpit voice recorder and try to work out what happened. no word yet as to the flight data recorder. it was only less than 24 hours ago that we learned that that ship had, in fact, located the wreckage. we understood the wreckage was in several pieces. so it's actually a great success that they've managed to find the flight -- the cockpit voice recorder quite so quickly. but it will take some time to get that back to cairo and even longer for that to be analyzed. remember, this is still one of the great aviation mysteries. what on earth caused that plane to plummet into the mediterranean. there were reports that there was smoke in the cockpit, possibly coming from the avionics bay, but it was still unclear whether this was a technical fault or whether it had something to do with terrorism because, remember, this flight was going from paris to cairo. so the connection of those two countries made many people initially think that terrorism was indeed a possible cause. but the cause still unknown, but this is definitely the biggest breakthrough so far in this investigation. back to you. >> and, bill, quickly, the clock was really ticking here, too, in terms of, if i understand this right. another couple of days, maybe a week, if they found it later it might not have been good anymore. >> that's right. there's, as we know from mh-370. there's a pinger on these cockpit voice recorders. the batteries traditionally only last around 30 days. we were right at the end of that. but once the ship had located the aircraft debris itself, there was an extra window, if you like because once you've got the debris, the flight recorders are found in the tail section. so you can pretty much narrow down the search. but, yes, it was a race against time but now the biggest breakthrough so far n we'll probably have to wait another week or ten days to know exactly what the data in the cockpit voice recorder tells us. >> bill neely in london with the news the cockpit voice recorder from egyptair flight 804 has been found. bill neely, thank you for that. turn to headlines at the half hour. president obama set to leave the white house less than an hour from now. he will head to orlando, florida, the site of that nightclub massacre over the weekend. the white house says the president will visit with survivors and with families of the victims. this an attempt to show solidarity with the people of orlando and the lgbt community. 15-hour filibuster on the floor of the united states senate ended just after 2:00 this morning. but not before connecticut democratic senator chris murphy says he received commitments from republican leaders to hold a vote on new gun control measures. newly declassified documents reveal details about cia enhanced interrogation programs in the aftermath of 9/11. they also reveal that president bush expressed concern about the mistreatment of detainees. and tonight, bernie sanders is set to deliver a live online video message to his supporters. although he hasn't revealed what it will be about. at the same time, sanders losing his very first congressional supporter, arizona congressman raul grialva. the first member of congress to come out and endorse sanders last year. today he is announcing he'll back hillary clinton. authorities in florida have released a picture of the toddler snatched by an alligator while wading in a manmade lake at disney world. this is 2-year-old lane graves. searchers recovering his body in that lake yesterday. gabe gutierrez is live in lake buena vista. new questions this morning about what disney had done or really hadn't done to prevent something like this. >> yeah, that's right, steve. the debate is really exploding on whether parents should have paid more attention to the no swimming signs that are here in certain places in the park, or whether disney should have given them more warning. today investigators are still trying to identify the alligator responsible for the death of lane graves. but there are still many questions about leading up to that, whether disney should have done more. disney has released a statement saying there are no words to convey the profound sorrow we feel for the family and their unimaginable loss. we are devastated and heartbroken by this tragic accident and doing what we can to help the family during this difficult time. on behalf of everybody at disney, we offer our deepest sympathies. disney's ceo released a similar statement expressing condolences. but a disney official did tell me that alligators here in florida are a fact of life. and they are in their habitat. local sheriff believes disney will review its policies regarding signage. they do have no swimming signs here, but at the seven seas lagoon there were no signs specifically referring to alligators. and several industry experts have said that out of shape guests may or may not know that alligators which are very common in florida are in the lakes here. there are still a lot of questions about whether disney could have done more. >> gabe, i think we might have just been showing it there. i'm not sure. there's some video, i understand nbc has obtained. we've been showing that. that's just from a few days ago? a sighting of an alligator in this same lake a few days before this happened? >> that video was posted on youtube. and it appears to show an alligator at the seven seas lagoon taken by a wedding guest on june 3rd. that is earlier this month. it appears to show an alligator in that same lagoon. of course, it wasn't -- we don't know if that was the alligator. we certainly don't know that. and we should point out that authorities have removed five alligators from that manmade lake as they search for the alligator responsible. others have been posting videos throughout social media, other visitors here to the disney resort showing toddlers playing really close to the water here throughout the park, and those parents, it seems to show that toddlers did it very often, right here on the beach, even though there were alligators in those lakes, steve. so certainly disney facing a lot of tough questions today. >> and, gabe, if you could just -- for people who haven't been down there, just to sort of describe a little more detail what this scene is like. i mean, it's sort of a mixed message here. there's a sign that says no swimming. at the same time, there's a beach here. there's sand. there's beach chairs. it makes it look like the water isn't that dangerous. >> yeah, and that's, you know, what some of those videos, the parents that posted them are outraged. disney isn't giving enough warning by simply posting the no swimming. they don't say why people shouldn't swim. some industry experts say that might be enough and disney is not fulfill ting its duty here d some are outraged because it's happening. >> gabe gutierrez, thanks for that's. more breaking news to tell you about this from the uk where there are reports that a member of parliament has been attacked. we're working to get the details. going to take a quick break. we'll share what we 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her family. let's go to msnbc's cal perry. we know jo cox is a labor member of parliament over there. what else do we know? >> 41 years old. meeting with constituents in the uk. it's called a surgery. that's the place you go to meet constituents. if you have an issue with your passport, pension, you want to go see your member of parliament, that is what she was doing today in the town of burstol in leeds in northern england. 41 years old. she's done a lot of humanitarian work before becoming a member of parliament. worked for ox-fam and the bill and melinda gates foundation. we've heard from the mayor of london and the prime minister of the uk write, i'm very concerned about reports jo cox has been injured. our thoughts and prayers are with jo and her family. she was meet with constituents when somebody both shot and stabbed her. there's been a massive police sweep of the area. it's unclear if the assailant is still out there or if they've been detained. we'll obviously update. >> any word on her condition, on -- >> yeah, according to the hospital that she was taken to, she's in, quote, serious condition. keep in mind this just happened about an hour and a half ago. this is very fresh. people in the uk are shocked by this. it's breaking news across the major networks in the united kingdom. >> shocking news there and around the world. you think back in this country, gabby giffords, about five or six years ago, a member of congress who was shot but she survived. >> eerily similar. it was because she was meeting with constituents. we're going to turn back to politics and get back to our most important number of the day. we've known that donald trump has been struggling in the polls lately, but there is one particular number that may really surprise you. we'll show it to you next. it's time for the "your business" entrepreneurs of the week. omar and camille brown knew nothing about the restaurant business when they opened ke ee cafe. they want to keep growing but they 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check this out. this is a brand-new abc news "washington post" poll. donald trump's unfavorable rating among all voters has hit 70%. 7 out of every 10 voters this fall right now saying they have an unfavorable view of the man the republican party is poised to nominate for president. we have never, i repeat never, seen a number this guy for a major party's presidential candidate at this point in the race. a 70% unfavorable score. let's put this in a little perspective. look at donald trump's opponent. this would be a terrible score. if we debidn't know donald trum was at 70% and you saw hillary clinton had a 55% unfavorable. you'd say hillary clinton is in grave danger of losing this election in november. this used to be about the worst score you could imagine. 70%, significantly worse. hillary clinton when it comes to the favorable/unfavorable question, she's in pretty good shape right now. let's compare this across different groups. excuse me. i pressed the wrong button. let's do this among different groups. among african-americans, donald trump's unfavorable rating right now, 94%. among hispanics, it's almost 90%. even among white voters, he's there at 60%. this crosses gender lines. less unpopular with men than women. over 60 in both case. hillary clinton, these are not great numbers by and large for her but compared to donald trump right now, much better. this is not the position donald trump wanted to be in a month or so after becoming the presumptive republican nominee. these numbers had started to improve, it seemed. he had drawn even with hillary clinton in the polls but the last month or so, with the controversy over trump university, over the judge, we will see how his handling of orlando plays out. but the past month has brought his numbers to truly, truly historic depths. a 70% unfavorable score for donald trump. if he's going to become president of the united states this november, he has got to bring that number down. coming up, could trump go it alone and pull that off? what we're just talking about. going to ask some political reporters. that is ahead. ok team, what if 30,000 people download the new app? we're good. okay... what if a million people download the new app? we're good. five million good. we scale on demand. hybrid infrastructure, boom. ok. what if 30 million people download the app? we're not good. we're total heroes. scale on demand with the number one compa in cloudnfrastructure. owen!hey kevin. hey, fancy seeing you here. uhi live right over there actually. you've been to my place. no, i wasn't...oh look, you dropped something. it's your resume with a 20 dollar bill taped to it. that's weird. you want to work for ge too. hahaha, what? well we're always looking for developers who are upor big world changing challenges like making planes, trai and hospitals run better. why don't you check your new watch d tell me what time i should be there. oh, i don't hire people. i'm a developer. i'm gonna need monday off. again, not my call. donald trump is showing some willingness to move and all i can say to mr. trump, you're on the right path here, my friend. >> well, there's an interesting change of pace. we've been talking so much about republicans distancing themselves from donald trump this week but lindsey graham, his old nemesis in the republican party saying positive things about him today. the reason he's saying he thinks donald trump might be moving on right direction on something he's talking about, guns right there. talking about potentially backing an effort to keep people on that federal terror watch list from purchasing weapons. let's bring in mike pesca and jackie kucinich for the daily beast. we put up these unfavorable scores and donald trump hitting 70% in the newest poll and hillary clinton at 55% unfavorable. i guess the question strategically for trump is, is the effort to bring that 70 down to 55 where hillary clinton is or is the effort to try to bring her 55 up closer to his 70? >> the striking thing about that poll, he also dropped with republicans. at this point in the campaign usually, we are so far from usual it's unbelievable, the republican party is consolidated and aiming fire at the democratic nominee. we're not seeing that. donald trump is still having trouble bringing his party together let alone looking to attack hillary clinton. i think to answer your question, it's two-fold, he has to bring the number up. you better believe he's going to try to bring her down as well. >> trying to figure out donald trump and what the strategy seize pursuing is could be a full-time job and then some. but the comment from graham is interesting, he's talking about guns right there. there's so much talk about donald trump taking hard line stands maybe in some cases that have been previously out of the mainstream of american politics on this idea of banning muslims from coming into the country. if he follows through on what he's suggesting on guns here, he would actually have on the issue of guns, a more moderate position that be we've seen from previous republicans, breaking with the nra. >> that gives way too much credit. he says one thing sometimes within the space of one sentence and contradict himself, look at abortions and all of the walk backs, talk of a pivot. i have this hash tag, contradiction not a pivot. he constantly contradicts hixself. that's what we're seeing on guns and what we're going to see. i don't see it playing well. i loved your question to jackie, just trying to drag down the electorate, so alienate all americans that only 2 people show up on election day and neither is latino. >> the key here too, if he follows through, so far we have the tweet and talk of a meeting with the nra. we'll see if that produces anything. i want to play -- we showed a cut earlier, how donald trump is talking about his relationship with the republican party right now. we have reports of friction with the republican national committee. we have other republicans like larry hogan saying they are not going to support him. here's what trump is saying about that just yesterday. >> the republicans, honestly, folks? our leaders have to get tougher. this is too tough to do it alone. i think i'm going to be forced to. >> we have to have our republicans either stick together or let me just do it by myself. i'll do very well. i'm going to do very well. okay? i'm going to do very well. a lot of people thought i should do that anyway. >> so look, jackie, the conventional wisdom would say this is a disaster of a major party's nominee separates himself from the party's national committee and leaders. is there a piece of this that could work with donald trump in terms of showing independence? if he has the entire republican establishment distancing itself from him, does he establish more independence that way potentially? >> sure, but he's saying one thing behind closed doors to republican leaders and then doing another. we've seen it time and time again. you've seen reince priebus say he's going to tone it down. once he gets in front of the crowd, without a teleprompter, the same candidate throughout the primaries. donald trump really doesn't have any ties to the establishment republican party. he was elected from people angry at the republican party. so i mean, in fairness, there really is a disinsensitive for him to march along with the same washington set of rules that we've seen in so many cycles before. >> mike, do you think when we show a number like the 70% unfavorable rating right now, do you think this registers with donald trump in a way that would get him to change course meaningfully? >> i don't think he's a candidate that relies on favorable. his brand is i'm the tough man, i'll be your sob, do that for you, the dissatisfied white downwardly mobile voter. it's beyond rhetoric the fight he's picking with the republicans. maybe that's a thing to say on the stump but he needs the get out the vote apparatus. he has almost no staff. he needs them desperately. right now the republicans are worried they are worry the about losing the senate. might lose the house and their ideas can be destroyed. paul ryan has this anti-poverty agenda, this is what he believes in. this is what he's dedicated his life to. if people say in future elections after trump loses, that's a donald trump idea, let's not go with conservative ideas, that could hurt conservatism for years to come. >> we have the question, obviously terrible poll numbers here for donald trump, the one encouraging sign, you look at the events right now, so much focus on terrorism. you ask the question when candidate would be best to handle terrorism. there's a new one out that has hillary clinton slightly ahead of trump. there was a poll out that had trump slightly ahead of hillary clinton. when you look just at this issue of terrorism, there may be more of an opening there to get back in the conversation? >> i think you hear him talking how he does about terrorism. he also refers to hillary clinton and democratic party, including president obama as weak. and as long as i can get mileage out of that, you're going to see him do that. >> that should be a natural advantage. if he's only leading slightly, he's really screwing up. >> thankds as always, appreciate it. that is going to wrap up this hour. i'm steve kornacki. msnbc live continues jose diaz-balart right now. >> good thursday morning. it's another supreme court decision day if there are any major decisions we'll know at any moment and we'll bring that to you live with our own pete williams. but first this hour, we're following breaking news on the egyptair crash. nbc news has learned the cockpit voice recorder has been recovered and after the wreckage was found in the mediterranean. tom costello joins me for latest. >> this is critical because the cockpit voice recorder will contain the conversations between the pilot and the co-pilot as well as any a.m. bee ent noise in the cockpit. would it have detected any sound of explosion or sounds that might suggest a plane was coming apart? what about the conversations between the pilots, hopefully the cockpit voice recorder will contain that. we're told it was damaged, however, they were able to extract the memory unit. that's critical. also critical, they did this just in the nick of time. this is the pinger right here on the black box. the batteries on the pinger were set to expire in about another week or so. they managed to find the cockpit voice recorder just in the nick of time before the pingers expired. however, there's yet another black box they need to find and that of course being the flight data recorder. they would love to be able to hone in on that in the wreckage field. that brings us to the point of what they were talking about late yesterday, they found two locations where they think they have identified the wreckage from egyptair flight 804 there in the mediterranean. the question will be, where is the flight data recorder? it is also damaged like the cockpit voice recorder. that's critical. they need to not only hear what the conversations were like inside the coke pitd but see what the plane was doing and how it was performing. the flight data recorder contains 1,000 perimeters of information about engine performance and wing configuration and any electrical systems were failing and engine systems were failing, all of that,

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