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>> no, no, no. >> reporter: fred picked up the phone. >> hello? >> hello. >> hello. >> you there? >> yeah, whats going on bud? >> nothing much. >> reporter: and they agreed to meet 7:30 in the evening at a local restaurant. >> ill try to be there on time. >> all right, bud, thats all. ill see you around 7:30, bud. >> right. >> okay, bye. >> reporter: less than two hours later, frank, wearing the same hidden camera that the detective used to catch him, walked in to the restaurant to meet fred sch...

Frequent, unpredictable rages. abuse. a mother desperately trying to protect him. and so he would want to beat you with a belt, and she would try to prevent it, and that would produce an argument between them? >> and then he would beat her. >> reporter: how often? >> often enough that as a child i knew what was going on. but then, that was normal, so i didnt know it was wrong. >> reporter: you thought all families were like that? >> until i had friends really come over, and they noticed stuff, a...

Conducted a thorough search of the restaurant for those notes fred wrote. they found nothing. nor did fred contact anyone else that evening. and so the next morning -- >> we just showed up 9:00 in the morning and caught him in his pajamas. and disheveled. i mean, you could tell he hadnt slept a lot that night. >> reporter: he look shocked, worried, upset? >> very shocked and very upset. why were we there? and, you know, our response is, "were here to arrest you." >> reporter: they took him away,...

>> wait a minute, its their fault because they didnt prevent me from killing my wife? >> thats right. exactly. >> the claim was rejected. but now, on the day of his sentencing, he tried the same argument again. >> chutzpah. >> yes. that was the judges response too. he called it soefistry. and he called him a disgusting human being. and he did not mince words. >> fred was sentenced to life without parole. they all were. >> in a few sentences what you think the motive in this murder was. >> money....

Because now hes scared. >> reporter: back at the restaurant frank waited for an all clear signal from the detectives. and the waiter, whod frequently served the schockner family, stopped by to reminisce about lynn. >> shes very nice, very funny. >> reporter: putting frank in a very uncomfortable spot. >> theres nothing that anybody can say, so. >> reporter: he wasnt able to complete his thought, and soon fred would be having a very different kind of conversation with the police. coming up, wha...

>> reporter: so uncle john places a call to el cubano. >> hey, uh, frank? >> yes. >> frank, hey. hey, my names john. >> reporter: now to set the trap. hed say nick needs money for a lawyer. >> he seems to think you or fred will help out. he didnt want a [ bleep ] public defender. >> okay. >> reporter: frank tells uncle john he knows nick, but -- >> hes more of an acquaintance. i dont, you know, i really dont have money to help him out. >> reporter: at first frank doesnt seem to take the bait. >>...

If he had known that. >> part of the risk. >> it was like watching two old married couple arguing back and forth about whose fault it was that the, you know, dinner was cold or something. >> reporter: but of course, this argument was deadly serious. >> you have to understand, we need to [ bleep ] erase this problem. this is your problem, okay? you have to understand. listen to me. >> no. >> listen. >> no, its not my problem. its our problem, isnt it? >> i would have to say its more your problem....

You wanna make sure hes -- >> and what is he -- >> --not gonna say anything. >> and what does he have to trade? >> reporter: first, detective nelson decided, hed go for broke. by phoning fred schockner himself and claiming to be the hired killer, nick harvey. >> so, how did you go about doing this? >> i went to county jail and i used one of their inmate phones, cause i wanted the prerecording that says, "youre receiving a call from a california penal institution," blah, blah, blah. >> and he hun...

As investigators meet to move, news would travel to freds family. freds famison was about to rec an ultimate blow after his mother was killed. his father may have been the one responsible. >> you have to understand, im a 29-year-old man, fred. >> reporter: before he got mixed up with fred schockner, frank jaramillo, aka el cubano, had so many possibilities. hed just recently married a wonderful woman, a school teacher, who had no idea what her husband had done or what he was facing. >> theres no...

Detectives had engineered a face-to-face meeting between the murder middleman frank jaramillo and the suspected mastermind, lynn schockners husband, fred. this is where frank would attempt to get fred to say something to incriminate himself. except fred was late. had he finally realized they were laying a trap? nothing. if he didnt show this could all fall apart. then a signal from the surveillance van. there he was. >> the guys outside saw him kind of casing the place to make sure he wasnt bein...