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Had said he shared those encounters, those encounters where president trump may have attempted to obstruct justice, he share said those encounters with a small group of people. all of whom have now been either side lined or fired. and in the case of any mccabe he, of course, was sides lined weeks ago and now his firing as andrew mccabe was saying to undermine his credibility as a fact witness. the other thing we have to allude to is we havent heard from michael horowitz, the is inspector general...

This was coming, hat his time was up. but the state department it seems in a bit of candor that actually led to this individuals firing said this completely took him by surprise. so im not sure we can give this fuel credence and credibility knowing jeff sessions has squ d squandered a lot of his credibility. >> theres also an issue of proportionality. were not talking about andrew mccabe having paid someone off not to tell a story. were not talking about him having screwed up cases at the fbi. w...

Some degree set up or -- and he certainly indicates he believes he was trying to make the record as accurate as possible. >> and describes in his first round of trying to remember truthful answers about this, he says he was doing the best he could amidst the chaos that surrounded me. and i think we all have a feel for what that must be been. were joined now by phone by jill winebanks, and shes an msnbc contributor. jill, i wish you could be on camera so we could see your st. patricks green you w...

Investigation, that would have a discrediting effect in the context of a different investigation. whether its justifiable or not, of course, depends on the evidence that the public doesnt have access to right now. >> andrew mccabe has apparently just released a statement tonight. its a rather lengthy one. i will try to read some of it. actually, im going to start reading it and then, price, give us your reaction again to the possibility that this is actually, the timing of this is related to mue...

Lawrence. one is the the article itself says that the fbi officials that talked to the journal reporter who, by the way, is named -- at "the washington post" and is a very smart guy, the story says the fbi pushed back at that suggestion that they were trying to drag their feet, that they thought there was something to the clinton foundation investigation. so mccabe has come under a lot of criticism from the president, from republicans in congress who thought he was too favorable to hillary clint...

Was extreme. so i cant say that, you know, andy mccabes protestaceans of innocence are accurate about him. i can say that the situation stinks. and as i said before i will evaluate the evidence that supposedly justifies this action at the point at which it becomes public. and until then, look, a lot of what andy mccabe is saying in that statement is just plainly true. >> and ruth marcus, as ben just said we dont have the inspector generals report but we do have andrew mccabes written response to...

Court, and the name of the president of the united states typed in there by his lawyer also has an alias beside it typed in there by his lawyer. the president of the has a lawyer who refers to him as donald j. trump also known as david dennison. that is how the presidents lawyer represents donald trump in this case. a client with an alias trying to keep everything that stormy daniels knows about him secret. >> well, i think what is truly remarkable about this, if we just take a step back and rea...

His official retirement. we now have a full written statement by andrew mccabe that ive been reading here. your reaction to what we know about this so far. >> we take st. patricks day very seriously in chicago, let me say. >> i know you do. >> on a serious note, at 10:00 p.m. on a friday night before his sunday retirement becomes effective does throw some doubt into the credibility and reasons for the action. i do agree, of course, with ben that we need to have all the evidence before we pass ju...

Statement and i stand behind it. i dont think theres ever been an incident in the history of the united states where you have a president who undertook a personal vendetta against a private u.s. citizen -- >> okay -- >> -- who merely was looking for an opportunity to tell her version of events and seeking $20 million worth of damages. i dont think thats ever happened before in the history of the united states. its frightening quite honestly. >> your client has already spoken to "60 minutes." the...

We know from what director comey has said, written, he shared his encounters. the encounters where president trump may have attempt today obstruct justice. he shared those encounters with a small group of people, all of whom have been sidelined or fired. in the case of andy mccabe, he, of course, was sidelined weeks ago, and now his firing, i suspect as andy mccabe himself is saying was to undermine his credibility as a fact witness, as ben was alluding to. the other thing we have tomorrow is we...