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>> the uninsured didnt need to be convinced that getting them insurance was a good thing. >> exactly. we were going to be giving them something they needed, and didnt have. the people we had to worry about were the people who thought they were going to lose something. we never focused on that. >> this is an important point. if you take out of the population the people who are covered, as i am through my employer, the people over 65 on medicare if they want it, the people who get medicaid, the pe...