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Transcripts For CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240707

the riot once it got under way. we will see them drive that point home today. thank you very much. this morning new testimony from a veteran member of far right extremist group the oath keepers admitting the group had a stockpile of weapons including an ar-15 stashed outside washington on january 6. afterwards, fbi agents were seen carting several gun cases and other evidence from the courthouse. cnn s whitney wild is live with us at the u.s. district court. she has more on. this whitney? brianna, this is quite a moment in court. what this man kerry krucummings testified to, he had not seen that stockpile of weapons like that since he was in the military. he traveled to washington with one of the defendants and brought his own ar-15 and ammunition. it was when he was here in washington that another defendant told him to return to virginia which is where that weapon stockpile was to prepare for what they called a quick reaction force. that quick reaction force has been o

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 12:06:00

something. that s right. if they were trying to hide something, they were not entitled to hide. interesting. that is what we might imagine they re looking into right now. the january 6 committee holds the final hearing before the mid terms today. you defended trump in his second impeachment trial. there have been things that have been revealed, new evidence and testimony that s come out that adds to the story from when you knew the defendant in that trial. i want to xbu two specific instances. the testimony from cassidy hutchison that donald trump was told at his rally on the oval that there were people who were armed and were not able to get through the magnetometers outside the event. he said they re not here to hurt me. taking the f ing mags away. let may people in. what is the importance of that testimony? if it were true, it s significant. i just don t i don t believe it. i don t have any reason to know

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 12:25:00

it may very well stand up. i think what was compelling about this story was how repugnant the things that were said were and how much these families were put through. but in terms of questions of law, was it an unusual case? no. it really wasn t. it was just like any other defamation case. other than as you said, the violent things that were said and the speaker who made them. one oddity is that there was no merits trial. here he defaulted essentially. he really refused to show up. and so it was aat this trial. that was a bit of an oddity. no, it s a classic defamation case. the plaintiffs had to meet the burden of the elements of defamation like any other plaintiff in any other courtroom. jrt found this was an outlier in terms of the things that were said and the damage that s it caused. you spent your days and nights lurking in these world

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 12:43:00

out this entertainment with really no opportunity for the people on the other end of the story to tell their stories. and then you know, lifetime has this movie out recently here about gabby tito which, i mean, it feels like it just happened. she was just murdered the other day. and they came under criticism as well for not consulting the family. that the turn around on that one was just, you know, whiplash. i think the gabby petite yoe story is particularly interesting. director said she thought that the movie would be an educational one for young women. and in some ways i think that is true. i think it has lessons to teach people about looking for the signs of domestic abuse. but at the same time, gabby s fably is very clear they were not asked about this movie. it does feel like this crime just happened. and it just seems like it was too soon. and people feel rightfully that it s a violation of privacy.

Transcripts for CNN New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar 20240604 12:42:00

cold blood, helicopttrue crime popular. it is considered to be an art form in and of itself. is there something different about this that makes it more objectionable to people? well, i think we re just reaching a sort of different moment in true crime. i agree. true blood captivated the entire world. it is a great primal level, interesting for everyone just because there is something sort of horrifically interesting about the stories. i think there are several things that are intertwined here to make this a different case. first of all, we really didn t need another telling of the story of jeffery dahmer. it s not like this is a little known story that no one knew. and also i think social media has really played into it in an interesting way in making people aware of different voices whereas before you basically had often white men telling the story of the crimes and putting

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