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Transcripts for MSNBC Breaking Hate 20190826 02:19:00

and because of the rally. and it doesn t matter to me whose side they re on, innocent people shouldn t die. this might come across i think if we were separated we wouldn t have these issues. just throwing everyone together and blending them together and then saying, hey, get along. obviously that s not working. the people who want to be living together in harmony and unity and whatever should be allowed to do that, but the people who don t should be allowed to do something else. what would you you do if given that choice? hm. i can t really say. if i had to make a split-second decision on it, i would have to go with the separatists. gabe can t imagine a world where different races coexist because he s never allowed himself to be a part of one. to help him escape the twisted

Transcripts for MSNBC Breaking Hate 20190826 02:52:00

susan s only daughter, heather, was killed by a white supremacist just six months ago. can i help you up? do you remember now. yes, just like that. to witness her compassion for a misguided young man like gabe is remarkable. want a hug? if you are not comfortable just say, it s okay to say so. okay. i give long hugs. at first i was reluctant to meet with heather s mom. seems like you guys connected. yeah, we did. i was glad she was able to see where i was coming from. this is a big step in gabe s journey. but it s not the last. y. but it s not the last. (woman speaking french) are you crazy/nuts? cyclist: pip! pip! (woman speaking french) i m here, look at me. it s completely your fault. (man speaking french) ok? it s me. it s my fault? no, i can t believe how easy it was

Transcripts for MSNBC Breaking Hate 20190826 02:48:00

this communist protester rebel. oh my gosh, so not her. heather came from a broken home. her dad had drug problems. he s clean now. but he was never clean while she was growing up. heather seemed to just take it all in, but i know it damaged her in ways. gabe, would you mind sharing your upbringing at all with susan? i mean when i was around 7 years old, my mom kind of went off on a bender for a couple of years. drinking and drugging and dating less than desirable men. one of those less than desirable men tried to kill her on christmas eve while me and my brother were in the house. that was that was fun. i m so sorry. it s

Transcripts for MSNBC Breaking Hate 20190826 02:07:00

resentment. and as i got older, i looked at it as, i don t have to take this [ bleep ] anymore. you shave your head, you put on some boots, and nobody s going to mess with you. before that i was just gabe. just nobody. now i m gabe the skinhead and everyone either respects me or fears me. according to the southern poverty law center, there are currently 78 racist skinhead groups in the united states. the hammer skin nation, my old crew, is the oldest and largest and have a reputation for being extremely brutal, a kind of white power special forces unit eager to engage in a race war. gabe was a hammer skin prospect for nearly two years, channeling his personal frustrations into the group s hateful agenda. i guess the difference between now and then is i was trying to change the world to make myself happy in it, instead of trying to change myself so i could be happy in the world that i already had. i m really happy for you,

Transcripts for MSNBC Breaking Hate 20190826 02:08:00

man, i m proud of you. you ve made a ton of progress. i ve got to be honest too, i m also concerned. since we started working together, gabe has severed ties with the hammer skins. but i found out just a few months ago he marched in the largest white power rally in more than a decade. jews will not replace us! jews will not replace us! on august 11th and 12th, 2017, 500 white supremacists descended on the small college down of charlottesville, virginia. white lives matter, white lives matter! calling themselves unite the right, they claimed they were protesting the city s decision to remove a confederate monument. more than 1,000 counter protesters met them in the streets.

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