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good evening and welcome to "mtp daily." i'm steve kornacki in for chuck todd. we are expecting any minute now to hear from hillary clinton at the university of wisconsin in madison. she's expected to speak about the supreme court, about the vacancy caused by the death of the late justice, antonin scalia. she's going to be challenging republicans for their refusal to hold hearings on president obama's nominee to replace scalia, merrick garland. we also expect her to name-check both senator chuck grassley and republican presidential front-runner, donald trump. she is going to be calling on grassley. he's the chairman of the senate judiciary committee, she will call on him to do his job, at least has she defines that job, arguing that the court job should be at the top of voters' minds and that voters should be concerned about the kind of nominee trump might put forward. it's an issue where she appears to have the electorate on her side. our new nbc news/survey monkey online national poll as well as other polls have consistently shown the majority would like to see senators take up the nomination, rather than punting to the next administration. you see the numbers on your screen right there. and to that end, merrick garland, the nominee, was on capitol hill today. he was meeting with two democratic senators, joe donnelly from indiana, and ben cardin from maryland. and in this clinton speech, the one we're waiting for any minute now -- in fact, it looks like it's about the to start now. so let's listen into hillary clinton on the politics of the supreme court. >> >> thank you all very much. thank you. thank you. thank you and please be seated. i'm delighted to be back at this beautiful school and this this wonderful city and to have a chance to talk with all of you. i want to recognize former governor doyle. thank you so much for being h e here. somebody asked me, so why are you going to madison? >> i said, well, why wouldn't i? i love going to madison. i've been to madison quite a few times. they said, well, that's a place where your opponent is very competitive. i said, yeah, that's true, but i'm here because not only do i want to compete for every vote, i respect the people of madison and dane county. i want to have a chance to talk to you and i want you to know where i'm coming from with respect to one of the most important issues facing our country, as someone who's been fighting for progressive causes my whole life, i think it's important that we take a broad view about what's at stake in this election. i've been making the case in the campaign that we are not a single-issue country. our next president has to be able to break down all the barriers that are holding us back, not just some of them and there are so many challenges we need to take on that don't always get the attention they deserve on the campaign trail. so today, i'm going to talk about one of those challenges, something that matters a great deal to our future, your future, the future of our country, and that is the supreme court. if you stop and think about it, how many law students are here? do we have some law students here? so you think about this. but if you do stop and think about this, the court shapes virtually every aspect of life in the united states. from whether you can marry the person you love to whether you can get health care, to whether your classmates can carry guns around the campus. a lot of americans are concerned about money in politics and rightly so. it's a serious problem that we have to address. but supreme court justices are appointed for life. they're not making decisions based on campaign contributions. they're making them based on legal philosophy and in some cases, ideology. and for a long time now, the ideological bent of the court has lead our country in the wrong direction. especially when it comes to stacking the deck in favor of the already wealthy and powerful. if we're serious about fighting for progressive causes, we need to focus on the court who sits on it, how we choose them, and how much we let politics, partisan politics, dominate that process. and i can't think of a better place for this discussion than right here in madison , because these decisions will affect you. you know, before i was a senator from new york or a secretary of state, even before i was a wife or mother, for that matter, i was a lawyer. >> yes! >> i was drawn to the law for the same reason a lot of young people are. i put my faith in justice and fairness and i saw the profound impact that our justice systems has on people's lives, for better or for worse. and i wanted to help make it for the better. so when i was in law school, i volunteered for the new haven legal aid aassociation. after i graduated, i put my legal education to work at the children's defense fund. i ran the legal aid clinic at the university of arkansas law school, where i taught, supervising students, providing legal assistance to prison inmates and poor families. and when president carter appointed me to the legal services corporation, which is the largest single provide of civil legal aid in america, it was one of the greatest honors of my life. and we fought hard to convince congress that using the law to help poor families was a just and necessary cause and when he won that fight. we hired an army of lawyers to work on behalf of a million poor clients across the country. helping families avoid eviction, fight discrimination, receive their earned federal benefits, and so much more. but i also learned, when the administration changed and president carter went out and president reagan went in, that you couldn't ever rest in the fight for justice and fairness and we kept fighting and thankfully, we had increased legal services before that time, because it's been pretty much static ever since. because of these experiences, i come to the issue of the supreme court not just as a former senator, who took my constitutional responsibility to advise and consent seriously, but also as a lawyer who spent years fighting for people and weren't getting a fair deal in our system. and i carry all these experiences with me. all those clients and all those cases, every single day. so today, i want to share some of my thoughts on the supreme court, and then i would love to hear from you. we start with that basic premise that i already stated. the court matters. and it's best, the court is a place where the least powerful voices in our society are heard and protected. whether they be african-americans trying to vote or people getting an education in the era of segregated schools and poll taxes, or women trying to make our own health care decisions in the face of humiliating laws that would strip that right away. [ applause ] now, this may be hard for you today in 2016 to really believe, but i was in high school and the supreme court decided a case called griswald v. connecticut. that case recognized that women have the right to make the personal choice of whether to use birth control. before that, in some places in our country, like connecticut, it could be a criminal offense. so that case left a powerful impression on me. along with all the civil rights cases from the 1950s forward, i saw the court as a place where wrongs were righted and where just everyday folks could stand on equal footing with the most powerful people in the land. in reinyears, the court has made a lot of high-profile decisions. some that uphold this progressive tradition, and some that tarnish it. it effectively declared george w. bush president. it cut the heart out of the voting rights act. it overturned common sense laws addressing gun violence. it said that certain employers get to decide whether their female workers can access free birth control under the affordable care act. but it also made same-sex marriage legal nationwide, preserved the affordable care act -- [ applause ] not once, but twice, and ensured equal access to education for women. the death of justice scalia marked the end of an era. now, as you know, there's a fight over whether president obama should nominate a replacement, as the constitution requires. and that fight is revealing the worst of our politics. the same obstructionism that we've seen from republicans since the beginning of the obama administration, the same disregard for the rule of law that's given rise to the extremist candidacies of donald trump and ted cruz. it's corroding our democracy, and it has to stop. for those of you who may not be following the saga, the story is pretty straightforward. president obama has done his job and nominated judge merrick garland, one of the most respected judges in the country, to become the ninth justice. democrats admire him, republicans do, too. in fact, a few years ago, when another seat was open on the court, senator orrin hatch of utah, who is not exactly a liberal, said that if the president named judge garland, there was no question that he'd be confirmed. in fact, senator hatch called the judge a consensus nominee. now normally, this is when the senate would do its job, hold hearings, consider the nomination, call for a vote. but republicans say they won't. they won't even hold a hearing. it doesn't matter how qualified the president's nominee is or what the constitution says, or what our country needs. this is their job, but they refuse to do it. senator chuck grassley, the head of the judiciary committee, could hold a hearing tomorrow, if he wanted. but he says we should wait for a new president, because, and i quote, the american people shouldn't be denied a voice. well, as one of the more than 65 million americans who voted to re-elect barack obama, i'd say my voice is being ignored right now because of their obstructionism! [ applause ] you know, we chose a president. we chose him twice. and now republicans in the senate are acting like our votes didn't count, and that president obama is not still our nation's leader. now, i'll tell you, those are not high-minded principles. they are low-minded politics. and today i'm adding my voice to the chorus, asking senator grassley to step up and do his job. he should -- [ applause ] he should hold a hearing and he should schedule it as soon as the senate returns from recess. but let's keep in mind, this battle is better than just one empty seat on the court. by election day. two justices will be more than 80 years old. past the court's average retirement age. the next president could end up nominating multiple justices. that means whoever america elects this fall will help determine the future of the court for decades to come. just look at the court's docket, the cases that it's hearing this term alone. the court is reviewing how public sector unions collect the fees they use to do their work. the economic security of millions of teachers, social workers, and first responders is at take. this is something the people of wisconsin knows all too well, because your governor has repeatedly attacked and bullied public sector unions and working familiy ies have paid the price. i think that's wrong and it should stop. the court is reviewing a texas law imposing unnecessary expensive requirements on doctors who perform abortions. if that law is allowed to stand, there will only be ten or so health centers left where women can get safe, legal abortions in the whole state of texas. with a state with about 5.4 million women of reproductive age. so it will effectively end the legal right to choose for millions of women. the court's also reviewing whether texas should have to exclude non-voter s when drawin its electoral maps. that would leave out, among others, legal residents, people with felony convictions, and children. the fair representation of everyone in our society, including 75 million children, hangs in the balance. and on top of all of that, the court is reviewing affirmative action and president obama's executive actions on immigration, which called for halting the deportation of dreamers and undocumented parents of citizens and legal residents. it's also put a hold on the president's clean power plan. either america can limit how much carbon pollution we produce or we can't. and if we can't, then our ability to work with other nations to meet the threat of climate change under the paris agreement is greatly diminished. in short, in a single term, the supreme court could demolish pillars of the progressive movement. and as someone who's worked on every single one of these issues for decades, i see this as a make or break moment. if you care about the fairness of elections, the future of unions, racial disparities, and universities, the rights of women or the future of our planet, you should care about who wins the presidency and appoints the next supreme court justices. and consider, if you will -- [ applause ] . and consider the dangerous turn the court has taken in recent years. toward protecting the rights of corporations over those of people. now, you may have heard of the case citizens united. the court ruled that corporations have an unfettered right to free speech, just like you and me. that means no limit on what corporations can spend independently to influence elections and, big surprise, a flood of money, from rich people, corporations, special interests, has poured into our politics. citizens united opened the door to the creation of super pacs, and between 2008 and 2012 presidential elections, spending by outside groups tripled. in 2014, the top 200 donors spent nearly as much as all of 4750,000 donors in the country combined. the idea that money is speech turns our constitution upsidedown. wealth should not be privileged in the courts. it should have no privilege. yet at a time when einequality between working americans and those at the top is starker than ever with, the supreme court has given the wealthiest americans even greater power to affect what happens in our democracy. justice ginsburg says if there were one recent decision, she'd overrule, it's this one. i'm with her and i hope she gets the chance to do just that. now -- [ applause ] people forget this. but the citizens united case actually began with yet another right wing attack on me. it grew out of a wisconsin case about whether corporations can run issue ads, so-called issue ads, close to an election so we all have a personal stake in this. if the court doesn't overturn citizens united, i will fight for a constitutional amendment to limit the influence of money in elections. it is dangerous to our country and poisonous to our politics. but it doesn't stop with citizens united. this court has voted on the side of corporations on the interest of workers, unions, consumers, and the general public in case after case. it's made it harder for consumers to band together to sue a corporation, even if they are collectively suffering from corporate behavior. so 2 million comcast subscribers in philadelphia were told they each had to hire a lawyer if they wanted to sue for fairer prices. 1.5 million people, working at walmart, each had to hire a lawyer if they wanted to sue for sex zrims. that's a burden that the vast majority of people cannot afford. i know this sounds a little technical, but it points to an alarming trend. the court used to, in the 20th century, anyway, protect the little guy against the rich and powerful. more and more, it's doing the opposite. protecting the rich and powerful against the little guy. one study found that between 2009 and 2012, the one party most likely to convince the party to hear a case out of all the top petitioner from every part of our society and economy was the u.s. chamber of commerce. so the court was more likely to take up cases concerning corporate interests and then to decide in favor of those corporate interests. if i'm fortunate enough to be president, i will appoint justices who will make sure the scales of justice are not tipped away from individuals towards corporations and special interests, who will protect the constitutional principles of liberty and equality for all regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, or political viewpoint. who will protect a woman's right to choose, rather than billionaire's rights to buy elections. and who will see the constitution as a blueprint for progress, not a barrier to it. so i hope you and everyone across wisconsin and everyone across america, keeps the court in mind when you vote. some of you may have already decided to support me. some of you may have decided differently. i will keep working to earn your vote. but even if you are decided or undecided, i will be for you, but i ask you this. please, make sure the court factors into your decision. conservatives know exactly how high the stakes are. for years, they have used aggressive legal strategies to accomplish, through the courts, what they failed to accomplish through legislation. they couldn't pass a repeal of the affordable care act. so they tried to get the courts to do it. they couldn't stop the president's clean power plan and they couldn't pass immigration reform and they didn't want the president to act, so they got the courts to step in. now they are fighting hard to make sure the supreme court includes, as many right-wing justices as possible. as scary as it might be, ask yourselves, what kind of justice would a president trump appoint? or for that matter, what kind of attorney general? what kind of lower court judges? as you know, he believes muslims should be banned from entering this country because of their faith. what would that mean for a nation founded on religious freedom? he wants to round up 11 million immigrants and kick them out. what would that mean for a nation built by immigrants? he says wages for working people are too high and we shouldn't raise the minimum wage. what would that mean for working people? and a court that's already tilting in faefr of powerful corporations? let's be clear about what's really going on here. the current fight over judge garland is just the latest in a long line of actions aimed at disrupting our government and undermining our president. and the result is an america that's more divide d, more dysfunctional, and less secure. consider how republicans led by ted cruz shut down the entire federal government in 2013, rather than fund the affordable care act or how they almost shut down the government again last fall over trying to defund planned parenthood. remember what mitch mcconnell, the republican leader in the senate said back in 2010. that the single most important priority for republicans was making barack obama a one-term president. now, some people thought that was hyperbole, but i always remember mayaing angelou's adv. when someone shows you who they are, believe them. right? and today republican readers have been showing us who they are. in fact, for a long time blocking judge garland is just the latest evidence and we should start believing them. if you want to know where that kind of obstruction and recklessness leads? look at the republican race for the presidency. now every day another republican bemoans the rise of donald trump. thbz a trump nomination will set their party back decades. i agree. it will set the republican party back if donald trump is their standard-bearer. but donald trump didn't come out of nowhere. what the republicans have sewn with their extremist tactics, they are now reaping with donald trump's candidacy. it wasn't long after senator mcconnell said his number one goal was to prevent the president's re-election that donald trump started his racist campaign to discredit the president's citizenship. remember? the birther movement. and ted cruz embarked on his strategy of holding the government hostage to get his way. these things are connected. when you have leaders willing to bring the whole of government to a halt, to make headlines, you may just give rise to candidates who promise to do even more radical and dangerous things. because once you make the extreme normal, you open the door to even worse. [ applause ] and when you have a party dead-set on demonizing the president, you may just end up with a candidate who says the president never legally was the president at all. enough is enough. it is time for us to take a stand, and you can start right here in wisconsin. your senator, ron johnson, is bragging about blocking the president. he's in a tight race against former senator, russ feingold, an exceptional public servant. during his time on the senate judiciary committee, senator feingold actually helped build a stronger judiciary. so when you leave here, i urge you to call the office of senator johnson, e-mail him, contact him, if he has a facebook page, go on, express your opinion. tell him to stop playing games with the supreme court. and remember this, are this in november when you choose who stands for you in the senate. the incumbent will vote for corporations and against working people. his opponent will vote for a court that will listen to you. then keep these larger issues in mind when you go to the polls on october 5th. it's time to get back to what makes america already great. respect for the rule of law, statesmanship over showmanship, and people working together across party lines for the good of the nation. [ applause ] that's what this court fight is really about. that's what this election is about. whether we as a country are able to come together to meet the challenges we face and break down all the barriers holding people back. or whether we will be paralyzed by deadlock and divided from each other by bitter partisanship. at our best, american has united behind the ideal that everyone deserves a fair shot, no matter who we are or where we started out. and at its best, the supreme court has defended that ideal. like in 1954,hen the court abolished segregation in our schools. or 1973, when it ruled that women have the right to make intimate health decisions for ourselves. or 1977, when the court paved the way for public sector unions. or 1982, when it ruled that undocumented children had the right to go to school. or just last year, when the court ruled that marriage equality was the law of the land. you know, all jim wanted was to marry his partner of 20 years before his partner died of als. they ended up flying to maryland, because their home state of ohio didn't recognize same-sex marriage. john was so sick, he couldn't even leave the plane. but they got married right there on the tarmac in baltimore. and then flew straight home. and when john died three months later, ohio listed him as single on his death certificate. for the partner who had loved and cared for him, this was a bitter, painful blow. a rejection of the life they had built together over decades. until the supreme court ruled that jim and john's marriage was legal, everywhere in the united states of america. and in that decision, justice kennedy wrote, the nature of injustice is that we may not always see it in our own times, but generations that wrote and ratified the bill of rights and the 14th amendment did not presume to know the extent of freedom in all its dimensions, so they entrusted to future generations a charge, protecting the right of all persons to enjoy liberty, as we learn its meaning. that decision is the latest reminder of what the court can do when it stands for equality. or against it. when it makes america a fairer place, or rolls back the progress we've worked so hard to achie achieve. it depends on what the court decides, and it depends on who's deciding. which in the end means it depends on all of us. so think hard about the court. for years, people have tried to make people the supreme court a voting issue, and it's not easy to do. people are lightly concerned about their economic well-being, about the education of their children, about their health care, about their social security payment. about all the other issues that keep people up at night around millions of kitchen tables. but this election hasz ripped away the curtain and made it absolutely clear to everyone how essential the supreme court is to those decisions, as well. i will keep talking about it and advocating and calling on the senate to do its job. and i hope there will be a great chorus of voices across our land that will do the same. it's our constitution. it's our court. and it's our future. thank you all very much. >> all right. that was hillary clinton in madison, wisconsin, delivering a speech that was officially about the supreme court vacancy and president obama's efforts to fill that with judge merrick garland, trying to get republicans to schedule hearings. ultimately, ideally for the white house to schedule a vote on that. the speech, though, ending up more of a wide-ranging speech. clinton turning it into an indictment of the modern republican party. she says they are, quote, reaping what they have been sewing for years with donald trump's candidatcy. she's saying that donald trump is in keeping with the republican party that she sees these days. when you have a party that's dead-set on demonizing the president, you could end up with somebody saying that the president never legally was the president. that was the speech from hillary clinton there, demanding that republicans hold hearings and offer a vote on the nomination of merrick garland to the supreme court. i'm going to bring in now nbc's kristen welker, covering the clinton campaign. she's in the room where clinton is taking some questions. this sounded like a basic fire up the base speech. she laid out all the major issues that the supreme court is set to weigh in on the next few years, issues it could weigh in on, issues that are dear to democratic voters and basically said all of those issues hang in the balance this november, based on which president picks that justice. >> reporter: you're absolutely right. and i'm going to speak quietly, steve, because secretary clinton is answering some questions as we speak. but she has took some of her sharpest jabs to date at donald trump and to follow up on what you were saying, asked this audience to imagine what type of justice donald trump would appoint, ticking through a number of his policy issues on which she has sharp disagreement. particularly his call to ban muslims from entering the united states and his option to increasing the minimum wage. and as you rightfully point out, steve, she said that the rise of donald trump is the result of the obstructionism that we have seen from the republican party. this aimed at firing up the base, but also aimed at fighting the primary fight she is engaged in. you heard her cast this as a battle to make the court more progressive, with decisions related to affirmative action and climate change hanging in the balance. that clearly an attempt to win over some of those voters who might be torn right now between secretary clinton senator sanders. and of course, this comes against the backdrop of headlines today about her e-mails, an indication it's a controversy that is not going away. chuck grassley jumped on that opportunity today to prebutt her earlier and slammed her for that saying, look, she's going to have to answer questions from the justice department in the near future. i've been talking to her campaign about that throughout the day, and she says, that is something that she would welcome, because they want that fbi investigation to come to an end. the e-mail controversy, hanging over her fight in the primary, and also potentially in the general. but the headline here today, steve, is where you started, which is that she is taking incredibly sharp aim at donald trump here in wisconsin, which is, of course, the next state to weigh in. steve? >> kristen welker, who is in that room. hillary clinton answering questions after delivering that address. thank you, kristen, for that. joining me now is msnbc's chief legal correspondent, ari melber. you were listening to that. what'd you make of it? >> reporter: the big headline to me is, steve, it's not every day you see hillary clinton calling any republican, let alone the front-runner, donald trump, someone calling a, quote, racist campaign. >> it seems like we are having trouble hearing ari here. we'll squeeze a quick break in. so, we're going to stay here. there's a lot to discuss, i'm glad. we have the panel right here. kerri sheffield, bob herbert, nick confessori here to dissect that speech. >> the white house has been to pretend this is not about other things she is saying it's actually about. she said, it's about procedure and history and blah, blah, blah. she's like, no, it's about power and issues who wins on those issues, us or them. >> and we've talked for years about how this issue, the issue of court nominations, the supreme court, this is one that fires up the republican base and one that gets republicans out to the polls. but if this stays unresolved, this antonin scalia seat through the fall, this is something that could fire up democrats too. >> i agree. and i have always thought the democrats should have made more in presidential campaigns about the importance of the supreme court going back 15, 20 years. so the scalia thing gives them that opportunity. almost forces them to do it. but i think hillary was operating on a few levels here. one, of course, the primary for her is the wisconsin primary. so it is -- it's an opportunity for her to attack the republicans. it's also -- she gives a speech in wisconsin, which it's really important for her to take this race against bernie sanders. and then another thing, you know, she stands up there with the flags behind her, and she gets an opportunity, talking about the supreme court appointment, to look presidential. >> and she wants those democratic voters thinking, this is a preview of the fall. donald trump will be up there, haib for the republicans, this is what it's going to look lick democrats, if hillary clinton is there, fighting him day to day. what did you see, kerri? >> i do agree with her, i'm terrified at the thought of a donald trump supreme court appointor. i'm part of the hashtag, never trump, movement. but i do note that 60 to 70% of republicans have voted against donald trump in every primary almost. sob there is a very good chance this could be contested, as we all know. >> but there is a agreement among republicans, all of those candidates, trump or not, that the president should not be appointing to supreme court justice this year. and she's taking aim at that assumption. >> i think she is. and she said, we elected a president, and we elected him twice, but also important to know we elected a senate and elected a senate with republican majorities, a congress with an overwhelming republican majority, not seen since world war ii. even if this were to come up for a senate vote, he probably would get rejected. this could be more political fodder, and you could argue this is just more politicization of the political process. >> why would they reject him? >> i think for all the grounds, as nick pointed out, have been laid out. i found it ironic that she pointed out gay marriage. the swing vote in that case, which i agree, was actually appointed by reagan. the swing vote in the obama case was appointed by george w. bush. so there's the sublayer that she seems to be ignoring as far as her policy outcomes she's arguing for. on the case of -- she talked about public sector unions and supporting the little guy. public unions? fdr was opposed to them because it was the big guy. public sector unions, average per capita income is higher than private sector workers. they have become corrupt in many, many cases. there were so many layers of irony i heard. >> the other thing that was interesting, she was praising briefly merrick garland, as impeccably qualified of this. i wonder if he's not confirmed, and she were elected, if she would turn around and nominate him. we'll go back to ari melber in the newsroom. we were having some audio difficulties there but you were saying? >> thank you, steve. sorry about the audio. i think the big political headline, obviously, is she's saying donald trump is running a, quote, racist campaign with birtherism against barack obama. that's stronger language than hillary clinton usually uses or democrats usually use. you hear a lot of private fuming about that and donald trump's roots and a lot of how he moved himself into the mainstream of republican party politics with those kind of attacks and challenging the president on his birth certificate, on his college grades. people may remember, going to new hampshire with it. i thought politically, it was strikingly strong language from hillary clinton on that point. that connects to number two, which is the idea that there is something illegitimate or wrong in the eyes of republicans with this president, and that's why his nominees are being treated somehow differently. of course, as we've reported, republicans strongly object to that, and they say this has been partisan both ways. on the law, on the jurisprudence she was citing in the speech, she was more detailed than usual, talked about griswald v. connecticut, a key women's rights and privacy case. she talked about citizen's united, which we've heard about, but got into more depth, saying, this was one of these big soft money videos designed to attack me, hillary clinton. she got into the voting rights act and said it was conservative ideology that cut the heart of the voting rights act. so she's doing something that's very different than the washington message from the white house, this has been solicitous in trying to show judge garland as this consensus pick. she did mention that with regard to orrin hatch, but went further and hit the talking points, and what a lot of democrats say is important in this race, that liberal goals hang in the balance in the supreme court and if you replace scalia with someone to the left or center left, it's a big difference, and if you don't, everything else is in danger. it's a much more strident or partisan emphasis she heard from washington. and ultimately, she's betting if she can win, she may put someone who's even more liberal. >> and also maybe younger and could have a few more years of service. >> ari melber, thanks for that. we'll take a quick break here. more reaction, and more analysis to hillary clinton's speech. a lot more going on in politics, too. some potential big news on the republican side breaking in wisconsin while that speech happened. we'll get to that right after # windows 10 really helps us get the word out about how awesome bugs are. kids learn to be brave and curious and all kids speak the language of bug. 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>> i don't think so, because it's a hillary speech. it's not an obama speech. if it was him coming out swinging then, it could have that effect that you're talking about. but what was happening here, hillary clinton doesn't want to go after bernie, her say, so she'll go after donald trump, and that's a much easier target for her in terms of getting the base. she knows when she walked in and gave her speech to begin, she acknowledged it's hard for her in wisconsin, because the people there tend to be very pro-bernie and very fired up, feeling the burn. for her, this is her way to get that rousing feeling, without having to go after bernie. >> bob, do you think there would be any budging here by republicans this year? >> oh,, i would actually be very surprised if they did budge. when i heard that scalia had died, it just struck me, as it struck so many other people, they'll never confirm an obama appointment. but it's very smart for the democrats to coo keep the press on. but your thought intrigued me about the idea, whether hillary gets elected, if she would want garland to be her nominee. and when you talk to democrats now, they think the garland nomination is a smart move politically on obama's part. but they really would like to see a more liberal nominee. and the republicans have made noises about perhaps having hearings after the election, but before the new president takes office, because they probably would rather see garland -- >> and some on the left say, the long game there is, after the election, obama can say, maybe hillary clinton, if she wins can say, we tried the reasonable approach, now we're going to go with a real -- >> a young hispanic liberal who's 40 years old, right? i think her speech, you know, shows actually a sense among democrats that they're worried about their strategy. that the president's strategy for dealing with this is good for the white house and good for their needs, but not as good for candidates who are actually running for election this year. he picked somebody who was defined to suck the ideology out of the equation. to make it as much an easy choice for republicans as a democratic path could possibly make it. she wants to come in and say, no, everyone should be really worried and excited and angry about this. and she has to have that for the election. >> but i don't think the democrats can have it both ways on that. i think obama can have the, like, sort of, middle of the road nominee he wants. and i think the democratic candidates can still talk about these issues that they feel the supreme court has fallen down on. >> final point? >> i find it funny none of the president's nominees have surprised us. the one we've seen that has actually approved, they have not split. they have been reliably liberal. it's actually surprising and i think it's great that he's trying to move more to the center. but i think if he would have been more conciliatory in the past, republicans would be more likely to believe that this would be a middle of the road kind of guy. >> kerri, bob, nick, thanks to all of you. still ahead on "mtp daily," a presidential candidate interview, libertarian garry johnson is going to join me live. ♪ ♪ he has a sharp wit. a winning ile. and no chance of getting an athletic scholarship. and that is why you invest. the best returns aren't just measured in dollars. td ameritrade. every auto insurance policy has a number. but not every insurance company understands the life behind it. ♪ those who have served our nation have earned the very best service in return. ♪ usaa. we know what it means to serve. get an auto insurance quote and see why 92% of our members plan to stay for life. donald trump didn't come out of nowhere. what the republicans have seaow with their tactics they're re reaping with donald trump's candidacy. these things are connected. when you have leaders willing to bring the whole of government to a halt, to make headlines, you may just give rise to candidates who promise to do even more radical and dangerous things, because once you make the extreme normal, you open the door to even worse. >> that was hillary clinton just a few minutes ago, going hard after donald trump and ted cruz. but what's the alternative? 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New-yorkUnited-statesArkansasDane-countyWisconsinNew-hampshireTexasPhiladelphiaPennsylvaniaCapitol-hillUtahIndiana tell you about a conversation that's happening in a lot of news rooms. what to do when sccandidates invoke innuendos and conspiracy series? the focus is on one candidate, donald trump. you could hear the frustration in jake tapper's voice. >> once again, journalists are in the unhappy predicament of trying to decide what and how to cover false allegations raised by a candidate for president of the united states. >> now in this case, tapper was addressing trump's latest for ray into conspiratorial thinking, this involves vince foster. donald trump made a comment that the 1993 death of the white house council, was fishy, that foster committed suicide. a fact backed up by government investigations and news investigations. but friends of donald trump's website say that -- saying it was a murder, falsely for 20 years, and it looks like trump has been reading those claims online. so what's the press to do about this? it's not as simple as you might think. so joining me now are three seasoned reporters. julie pate, the white house correspondent for the associated press, jonathan martin, the continue for the "new york times." and michael reski. you can say to the camera, these claims are all false. but still i wonder if it sticks in the minds of people and they think it's true. >> i think our role is clear, our role is to state what's true. so for example, we did a story earlier this week that actually tried to assemble as many of these conspiracy theorys that we could that trump has passed along or propagated and d. it's more about debunking the conspiracy theories because many of them have been around for years and we'll never settle some of these arguments. but the real issue is that by bringing them up again he's targeting them up against hillary clinton because they're all conspiracy theories that in one way or another involves the clintons or other democrats. and hillary clinton said she was going to get to the bottom of whether aliens have visited the earth. but what trump is doing is propagating disproving or at least heavily debunked conspiracy theories in an effort to discredit clinton. >> you wrote this week in the times that right wing media is getting its wish, why is that? >> if you follow politics closely, you know that what has happened in recent decades is that it's a constellation of conservative media forces, talk radio, the internet, notably drudge, and a few other sort of media outlets have effectively become a wing of the republican party and have been very powerful in pushing negative information into the kind of main stream media. and there is a sort of food chain, or there was at least a food chain here, an ecosystem, where a party operative would feed information to right wing media outlets and once it was posted on the web somewhere, or on talk radio or on foxes news, then those same operatives would get it in the media. trump cut out the middle man and he now traffics in all kinds of smears and isn't that concerned about the voracity of that information. he's happy to do it himself, to sort of send it around, no fingerprints, off the record, what have you. he himself has become a candidate who's willing to traffic in conspiracy theorys and we haven't seen anything like this in national politics, so i think it is incumbent upon us in the media when this does happen to step back and say this is not normal and what he is doing is remarkable and if he is telling mistruths or passing along mistruths, we should say that is not correct. >> the question i don't want to ask is is this effective. i think it probably is effective. but this is a show about media. so julie, what do you do? one option is to not quote him at all, is to not share if it is a conspiracy theory? >> if we chose to ignore what he was saying, that would almost be worse, we would be selectively keeping information or trying to keep information from the public and that's not our job either. what we do have to do in all of these cases is put as much context around what trump says as possible. it's irresponsible if we just simply put out his quotes or we just show a clip of what he says, we have to put in the political context, especially when it comes to things he says about hillary clinton, what message is he trying to get across to the public about hillary clinton. and then to jonathan and mike's point, we really need to put as much fact about these stories as we can. and i think one of the smartest thing we can do, use trump's words, use the questions that he's asked, his answers in full. because that is sometimes more effective than anything, showing exactly what he was asked and exactly what he said. >> we don't have an option of ignoring what he puts on twitter or instagram, or political things he brings up? i think it's an awkward thing to ask, because journalists do choose not to cover certain subjects, we choose not to pay too much attention to protests that might be about 9/11 truthers for example. >> we make choices and decisions all the time. that's what editing is. but what julie said is the most important point. this is a major party candidate for president of the united states, the public needs to hear what he has to say. we then can do things to try to expand or put context or just call it as untrue. when donald trump the other day said that hillary clinton wanted to repeal the second amendment. well that was false. she's never said that. she's never proposed that. on the other hand he may have been trying to get at something that he could have said that might have been a truth, which was that they have different views on how much guns should be regulated. but that's a very different idea. and it's really important for to us help people understand that. but there's no way we can shield the public from this or should. >> let's bring another sound bite. talking about other conspiracy theorys that trump has brought up in the past. watch the reaction from a trump supporter when he did this. >> vince foster's suicide, trump calls it fishy, he links autism and vaccines. he suggested ted cruz's father was involved in jfk's assassination and he still doesn't know if obama was born in theis u.s. is trump a spears theorist? >> no he just likes to get other people and to find out the facts. >> he likes to get people thinking was the answer there. i do wonder jonathan if this comes down to googling? is the answer here for viewers, for readers to take a more active role in checking what every candidate says, particularly trump's given his past reference to conspiracy theorys? >> yes, this election puts an add add added burden on the voters to get at the bottom of these questions and statements. but we should help the voters by being straight with regard to what these candidates say and if we don't, we're being irresponsible, obviously. >> we're going to bring the panelists back. right after the break, i want to tell you an untold story about the original trump conspiracy theory. when trump brought up the birther conspiracy. hear from one of the aides that was in the oval office when it happened, next. the big hilton world sale is on honors members save up to 25% on brands like hampton, doubletree, hilton garden inn, and waldorf astoria so stop clicking around. book direct at hilton.com now that's satisfaction. how do robots work? 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>> in 2007 and 2008, there were these e-mails going around, born in kenya, not eligible for the presidency, but they never sort of reached critical mass where the public was talking about it. the figures that were pushing these conspiracy theories and they didn't have the capacity to get on george stephanopoulus's show. when trump picked this up in 2011, he huged this huge megaphone, he was on the morning shows and the sunday shows making the case, and even when reporters pushed back really lard, people were saying headlines, people were saying twitter and facebook and we felt we had to respond if we were going to put this in the box and we were going to begin to focus on the very serious issues we were facing in 2011 s the goal was to be aggressive, it was fortuitous, in that the correspondents dinner was just a few days later, we had this big stage to handle trump in the way that we always thought was the best way which was ridicule. >> do you believe the theorys that that's what caused trump to get serious about running for president, the ridicule he experienced at that dinner that year? >> as much as i -- i don't think so, he could have run in 2012 and chose not to after he was humiliated in that speech. >> you're saying that should be the tactic, perhaps of the clinton campaign when it comes to dealing with more recent conspiracy theorys that come up? >> we were able to go to the state of hawaii and present a piece of paper that said exactly what trump said was not true. the sort of conspiracy theories he's alleged about vince foster and things like that are much more challenging because it's impossible to prove a negative. but i think you have to take him on and arm your supporters and your surrogates with talking points that they can be sharing on social media so there's two conversations happening, there's the trump supporters pushing the conspiracy theory and the hillary clinton supporters and hopefully the media pushing back. >> he tries to say he doesn't talk about that anymore, is that because you all effectively let's not going to -- >> i never try to ascribe too much strategy between what comes out of trump's mouth. there's about a nanosecond th that -- >> he deserves real credit for beating a lot of really good republican politicians, he had the advantage of being the candidate with the highest name id in the positions most consistent with the republican base, that candidate usually wins, this is a much different game that he's in now. >> when you look at how the press handles these conspiracy theories, about vince foster. do you wish there was something that was being done differently? >> i know journalists struggle with this, because trump is changing the norms of campaigns. despite what the public thinks, most politicians do not lie. sometimes they're misleading, sometimes they cherry pick their facts, but they don't lie. and this is not something reporters are used to. now we're on cnn, you work for cnn, i'm a cnn contribute for, but the reporter that deserves a lot of credit for addressing this in the most effective way is jake tapper, he takes them on aggressively and he doesn't treat them as a traditional misleading fact checking type station. i think more journalists should follow jake's lead on this. >> that's a blueprint for other journalists going forward. >> absolutely. >> thank you so much for being here. >> thanks, bryan. coming up here, bernie sanders, a lot of media types underestimate his appeal this time last year. is he making the and multi-layered security. it's how you stay connected to each other and to your customers. with centurylink you get advanced technology solutions, including an industry leading broadband network, and cloud and hosting services - all with dedicated, responsive support. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you're free to focus on growing your business. centurylink. your link to what's next. i like the bride more than the groom. turquois dresses... so excited. did all her exes get invited? 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or is there some legitimacy that this is still a competitive primary? >> i think the thing with sanders is it is definitely true that the media as a whole underestimated him last year, but the reason we focused on him and the reason he got more attention is that he started winning, politics, presidential campaigns in particular, you hear a lot got the narrative and the momentum, and rallies, but it really comes down to math, how many primaries are you winning. hillary clinton has a lead that is insurmountable unless bernie sanders is able to drastically flip the superdelegates, the math is the math and that's what it comes down to in this process. >> i wonder if the media is alienating some democrats who say the process is rigged and the press is part of the problem, should we be doing more to explain how this works in order to win those supporters over? >> we have a -- the relationship gene sanders and sanders supporters and clinton's campaign is a crucial one and a very important one. how well that comes back together in the next few weeks and months is goings to be a crucial piece of this campaign, so there is a real story there. >> it's an issue of not seeming too dismissive perhaps in taking on sanders supporters. sanders has said that he will not run as a third party. there are other parties, the libertarian party, we have seen more of the candidates garry johnson, also his vp, his running mate pick, do you think this uptick in -- by letting more people know that they're in the race, so to speak, could it tip the scales in some way? >> i think it could be significant absolutely. it's a question of how you define significant. if they do get ample press coverage this summer and fall, and there is no other viable third party candidate that emerges in the johnson-weld ticket, which hasn't been formalized yes, but if it becomes the defactor alternative in conservatives and republicans who can't bring themselves to vote for trump. it could determine what they get 3% in some places or 7% or 8% or even higher. >> should media pay attention to libertarian garry johnson, certainly i think voters need to know that there are other options besides the two primary partners. >> they're two former governors. >> let's look at this poll in march. this is monmouth university. you can see they're getting 11% against hillary and trump. it is enough to make him a spoiler, right? >> absolutely, and by the way, 11% for someone who is not known really at all, and was just thrown on to a questionnaire, i think it tells you about the dissatisfaction with the two nominees. >> that's exactly the right point, i think, jonathan, is that there is a real hunger out there, i was in pennsylvania most of last week talking to voters, i talked to 30 voters and all of them were dissatisfied with the candidates. almost a third alternative is very attractive at this point. >> it's almost at issue how a third candidate in the race could make a difference, and the press, let's be honest, tv networks, the website, it would be interesting to write about more than just two candidates, so that might be a factor. >> there's a long history of third party candidates effecting the outcome of american politics, from ross perot -- >> we're going back to the '9 # 0s again, we're talking about trump and bringing um clinton stories, we're now talking about ross perot. >> this is not actually that unusual a situation in american politics, not to cover it at all would be as bizarre as to overcover it. i very much doubt that there will be newsrooms that give all three candidates equal coverage, but i imagine that there will be a lot of interest. >> michael, julie, jonathan, great talking to you all this morning. up next, the role of race and racism in support for the trump campaign. why do so many journalists have a hard time talking about it? 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"hey cortana, remind me we have a play date tomorrow at noon" i need that in my world. anything that makes my life easier, i'm using. and windows is doing that. . welcome back to reliable sources. i don't know about you, but i have heard the following phrase about 100 times, economic anxiety. whenever experts are on tv and they try to explain trump's rise, they say it's economic anxiety. these are real factors, trump promises jobs and better days ahead. but are the talking heads missing something, when they pin it all on the economy? what about racial anxiety as a factor? i think this piece of the trump story has been overlooked. maybe because, i mean, less face it, it's a lot more difficult to talk about. but as it relates to mel bowie have said, among voters, higher levels of racial resentment have been growing. now he and others have asserted that make america great again, that slogan we see on those signs is really about restoring whites in an increasingly multicultural america. he said many racists are not poor and many poor whites are not racist. but for many voters, race and economics are not separate issues. so when reporters and commentators do separate them, aren't they failing to tell the full story of what's going on? tim wise, an anti-racism educator who's the author of several books on the topics, joins me now to discuss this. let me first go to you, do you think journalists are doing a disservice to the audience when we don't put the racial context of trump's support? >> if the only reason for trump's support is economic anxiety. 1/15th the net worth, nine years less life expectancy, in large part due to racial economics. there's a link between the kind of economic anxiety that white folks are feeling and this larger political or racial anxiety, really what it comes down to is if you think about it, it's the same way that southerners and i am a southerner, that the civil war wasn't about slavery, it was about civil rights, but you were fighting about the right to own people. a lot of people say i like that he says what's on his mind, but you like what he says about mexicans and the chinese and about black africans on the streets, in fact all of those things that people say trump is about, economics, the straight shooting, the straight talking guy, all of that still comes back to his perspective on othering other people, saying they're the ones who endanger your jobs, they're the ones to blame for your lack of safety in the streets, it's very much about racialized scapegoating and economics make it impossible to combine those things, but at the end of the day, it's still about risacial identity. >> i'm glad you're able to join us because you're traveling to so many states for the series, have you picked up on this? >> it's no surprise that there's racial anxiety. and we try to have conversations with people and not just shout slogans as trump is doing, and if you're able to start a conversation--trump is capitalizing on people's most based fears. >> let's take that as true if you believe it. why don't we hear it more often on television, why don't we read got it more often, why isn't it a more integrated part of trump's rise to the nomination? >> thanks for bringing the facts and figures, i appreciate that, tim. america is always afraid of a race conversation. not all of america, there's lots of media covering it, which is main stream media which is largely owned by white people is afraid of an honest and open race conversation. >> the media gets very intimidated by the thought that if they accuse his supporters of somehow being motivated by racial anxiety, trump will say, see, they're -- so i get some of the trepidation, but we have to start being honest, the biggest mistake, how many media folks have actually asked donald trump or any of his key supporters, hey, what does that hat mean? you're wearing this hat that says make america great again, when exactly was america great. when was it great for people of color? when was it great for lgbt folks? back when the tea party was saying they wanted to take america back, i asked the tea party person, what jeer do you think you want to go back to? and he said 1957. which makes perfect sense, because that was the year leaf it to beaver premiered. here's a slogan, it's right on his head every day and no one asks him what it means. >> i have heard interviewers ask him but what he has not provided is an answer. >> i want a year, a decade, an era, something, because any year you pick is go to not be a great one for anyone but the dominant group. if someone would nail it down, we could have a conversation. because any year you pick is going to be a nostalgiaized vision of america. >> you point out that the main stream media is mostly run by white men, and i wonder if there's something here about why networks don't have full-time race and ethnicity continues on tv. i think your show is part of the solution to this. but are there other recommendations that lives this every day and who thinks about these issues for your program? >> maybe it would be great to have a race conciliation person in everybody's office, but you also just need more people of color and more different kinds of people. even on my show, i was the only person of color on my show, and i would say things and people around me were looking at me like i was crazy, and i was like can i get a black person to step into the room now? it was about having a bunch of different people because there was more ideas in the room. you don't get great ideas from everybody who is the same. you have great ideas from people who are different and have different ideas. >> it's not about saying all of trump supporters are racist or even that many of them are racist, but it's lot the racial undercurrents got what's happening in this campaign. and i guess it's some of the rhetoric that we hear, the us versus them rhetoric. when you're speaking to his supporters versus them the others who are not his supporters. >> part of the reason we do not do well with these conversations is that many americans do not realize that the game that trump is playing by blaming black and brown folks for the problem for working class or struggling middle class white people. >> he doesn't come out and say, i'm blaming the black people. he doesn't say that exclusively. >> he says they're coming in as rapists and drug dealers, the muslims are terrorizing you and the chinese are screwing you on trade. >> you think i'm being too careful here? >> i understand. there's a -- i guess what you're trying to do, i respect you when you say that, but i think there's a fear of even calling trump supporters racist, but yeah, a lot of them are racist, there's a feeling in this country that we can't even apply it when it makes sense. when you see black people being beat up at trump rallies, i could call some of his supporters racist, but we can't use it even if it applies. we won't apply it to other situations, even when you say we are having these conversations, what you really mean is that white people are having these conversations, but black people, i just had that conversation before i got here, so there are people in this country who are having these conversations. >> to be blunt about it would perhaps go a long way towards having more of those conversations. coming up next here, is the king of conservative media about to be dethroned? a story about rush limbaugh you've got to hear. just a moment. soon. i like the bride more than the groom. turquois dresses... so excited. did all her exes get invited? 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shouldn't rush be benefitted more by trump's rise? has it had more of a ripple effect from rush, that rush limbaugh hasn't benefitted more from this incredible moment in conservative politics? >> i think in a way he has, talk radio has actually seen a ratings boost, they're actually calling it a donald trump bump. >> the same ratings increase that television has limbaugh hasn't been able to monetize it in the way television has, because the main problem is an advertiser boycott. no matter how many listeners he has, it's still hurting. >> that's why i thought your article was so interesting. why is this happening -- sandra fluke. let me put on screen what you wrote about this situation. you say four years after he called her a slut on the air, reams of advertisers still won't touch him. this is a rare ad boycott that's had a long-term effect. >> that's exactly right. four years ago is an eternity in the media universe. most people probably hadn't -- >> the forgotten about the case entirely. >> and i think you're not alone in that, but amazing after all those companies announced they were going to boy county limbaugh's show, they stuck by it, and that is has had a deleterious effect on his business. what is important to remember is limbaugh, as you mentioned, had a guaranteed contract, an eight-year countered, so, you know, every advertiser could leave him, and he was still going to get 38 to 50 million a year. now the contract is about to expire and he needs to renegotiate it. this is where his personal finances could be on the line. you reached out, but didn't hear anything about to them about what's going to happen in the future? its i didn't. i also also talked to a lot of people involved in talk radio, in writing this piece. they all these that premier doesn't want to re-sign him. he's still the marquee name. >> he's not going away, right? >> no, he's going to be talking somewhere. the question is how people will listen to him? and premier, all things being equal, would prefer to keep him, but the fact is they simply will not be able to afford the same salary that they gave him this time around. if he stays with premier, he'll get the paycut. >> does it say this about the talk radio more broadly, that it's not as strong as it used to be? >> i think as well as the effects of sandra fluke. the boycott affected all of talk road. what a lot of companies did, take j.c. penney's they loudly announced they were no long going to sponsor the news and traffic updates during the limbaugh show, but they pulled their advertising from all talk radio just to be on the safe sigh. in that way, what limbaugh did hurt all of his colleagues. the whole news talk format bake a no-buy zone. >> i usually roll my eyes, because i don't think they'll have an impact, budge in this case, it actually did. before i let you go, you mention indeed your story that trump has not been endorsed by rush limbaugh, nor attacked by rush limbaugh. he's taken this middle approach of not going all the way in for trump. is that right? >> that's right. i think now that the primaries have wrapped up, you know, he'll be pulling for trump, particularly against his hated hillary clinton. in the primaries, he was agnostic. i think that spoke to his business sense. he knew about half his audience loved trump, about half hated it, so he went down the middle. >> he is a mart businessman, but it seems like the ground has shifted underneath. we'll see what he does in july when the contract is up. ethan, thanks so much for being here. >> thanks so much. up next here on the program, does tech billionaire peter thiel pose another -- ko other outlaws as well? it doesn't make. sort of like marrying a man you met on tv. i love you. i love you too. yeah. world saleilton is on honors members save up to 25% on brands like hampton, doubletree, hilton garden inn, and waldorf astoria so stop clicking around. book direct at hilton.com now that's satisfaction. it's more than a nit's reliable uptime. and multi-layered security. it's how you stay connected to each other and to your customers. with centurylink you get advanced technology solutions, including an industry leading broadband network, and cloud and hosting services - all with dedicated, responsive support. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you're free to focus on growing your business. centurylink. your link to what's next. puwith meta appetite control. you and temptation clinically proven to help reduce hunger between meals. new, from metamucil, the #1 doctor recommended brand. huck hogan's invasion lawsuit just got even stranger. this week forbes.com reported that a billionaire is secretly funding the lawsuit, who? peter thiel, founder of paypal. his involvement had been suspected, but he had no proof when thiel proved it, confirming that gawker is a bully that deserving to be challenged. almost ten years ago valley wag wrote a blog post about thiel being gay. it wasn't completely a secret, but it wasn't well known. a couple years later, he was blunt with the hatred. he says some of his friends have been bullied by gawker sites as well. so here's the thing. thiel is also bankrolling other lawsuits. we don't know how many. it's perfectly legal to fund someone's litigation, but this sends up a chill of the spines of journalists. is this a new way to attack the media? you may not like gawker, but he said if this is the new weapon, few publications will are the resources off death wish to scrutinize them. he believes it could be a chilling effect on journalist. there's a connection between financing lawsuits and financing elections. the same questioning about transparency apply to each. so i leave you with this question -- should the injure that found gawker liable for $150 million have been told by thiel? 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ChinaFloridaUnited-statesMexicoNew-yorkKenyaPennsylvaniaHawaiiAmericansAmericaMexicansChinese until november and donald trump called for clinton to be charged in the e-mail investigation. mike emmanuel is live in new york with the latest. i can't believe he wants her charged, mike? >> reporter: good afternoon to you, heather. the clinton campaign hope that the fbi interview is over, they are one step closer to the e-mail investigation wrapped up. we'll see. this week on the campaign trail she will get help from democrats. president obama will campaign with her and then on friday from vice-president in scranton, pennsylvania. campaigning with top democrats just days after the three and half-hour interview on her e-mail probe. >> it is something i had offered to do since last august. i have been eager to do it. and i was pleased to have the opportunity to assist the department in bringing the review to a conclusion. >> reporter: presumptive republican nominee donald trump went after clinton on twitter saying it is impossible for the fbi not to recommend charges against hillary clinton. what she did was wrong. what bill did was stupid. bill clinton met with loretta lynch in phoenix. >> this is something she voluntarily did and last summer she wanted to do. this is routine and we'll see the investigation closing up and she like most americans wants this thing to be concluded and we can move and focus on the real issues of the campaign>> reporter: the clinton campaign accused trump of using antisemitic artwork. and trump said it is a sheriff star. >> doesn't everyone consider being questioned by the fbi an opportunity for three and half-hours? thank you, mime. > priebus asked republicans to rally around donald trump. many republicans are in doubt. but the controversial commentses draw criticism from gary johnson. >> just that he has said 100 things that would disqualify anyone else from running from president p. it doesn't seem to affect him and turn the page and now we have another reason that might disqualify a presidential candidate. that statement in and of itself. it is racist. jamie weinstein. senior writer for the daily caller joins us now. and nice to see you. >> thank you. >> you hear him saying what we need is unitty that is not a high bar? >> it is not a high bar. the republican convention will be unified as yugoslavia and the best you can can hope for is fake unity on the stage. 50 percent of the republicans wishing they have a different nominee and delegates trying to figure out the a way to dump donald trump and mitt romney refusing to endorse and both george bushes refusing to get behind trump. and the governor of the state where the convention is held john kasich not on board. it doesn't sound like unity to me. that is a pipe dream that priebus is hoping for. >> they will have tom brady and celebrities. does that work? these are truly unchartered waters. >> donald trump is bringing out people who don't traditionally vote for republicans. maybe sports stars and entertainment figures that will drive people in politics that are not watching the convention to come out. that is his hope and he is hoping even if there is not a unity in the convention. a lot of them vote for him maybe on issues like the supreme court saying at least he will appoint more conservative than hillary clinton. but there's not going to be a lot of love for donald trump in the party. you have passionate supporters and people who don't like donald trump. >> only 45 percent of the republicans say they are satisfied with with their nominee. what is important in the general election? traditional turn out. or new people that trump is promising to bring out? >> if he brings out new people that we don't know about and come out and vote for him in states like pennsylvania. maybe he doesn't need to unify the republican party. most people i see and writing experts don't think it will be enough if he can't unify the republican party. that is his quest and maybe he will toward november. people like to vote for the party they support and supreme court. you are not seeing much unitty and excitement. >> that may be true. the last time you had a true third party. a lot of swing states. and bill clinton won. it combining bush and perot, gary johnson whose sound bite we played. will he be a real player with so many people disinfranchised at the republican convention? >> having interviewed garry johnson. i don't think he can do it. and maybe be he will step in the never trump third party role and getting 15 percent and getting on the debate stages and pushing up the numbers. there is an effort to bring a third party candidate and better for america. and mitt rom no wants to jump in late he can do that. there is a threat that a third party candidate would compete with historically unpopular candidates with donald trump and hillary clinton. >> and a lot of money is going to third party attack groups and jamie, from the daily caller, appreciate your time. happy 4th. get a cheeseburger. >> still to come. the terror attack near the u.s. consulate and how it unfolded. there is fears that isis is broadening its reach. with the dimensions of the terror attack and the impact here at home. i thought i married an italian. did the ancestrydna to find out i'm only 16% italian. so i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors was eastern european. this is my ancestor who i didn't know about. what would help is simply being able to recognize a fair price. truecar has pricing data on every make and model, so all you have to do is search for the car you want, there it is. now you're an expert in less than a minute. this is truecar. has been a struggle. i considered all my options with my doctor, who recommended once-daily toujeo®. now i'm on the path to better blood sugar control. toujeo® is a long-acting insulin from the makers of lantus®. it releases slowly, providing consistent insulin levels for a full 24 hours, proven full 24-hour blood sugar control, and significant a1c reduction. and along with toujeo®, i'm eating better and moving more. toujeo® is a long-acting, man-made insulin used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. it contains 3 times as much insulin in 1 milliliter as standard insulin. don't use toujeo® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you're allergic to insulin. allergic reaction may occur and may be life threatening. don't reuse needles or share insulin pens, even if the needle has been changed. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which can be serious and life threatening. it may cause shaking, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurred vision. check your blood sugar levels daily while using toujeo®. injection site reactions may occur. don't change your dose or type of insulin without talking to your doctor. tell your doctor if you take other medicines and about all your medical conditions. insulins, including toujeo®, in combination with tzds (thiazolidinediones) may cause serious side effects like heart failure that can lead to death, even if you've never had heart failure before. don't dilute or mix toujeo® with other insulins or solutions as it may not work as intended and you may lose blood sugar control, which could be serious. toujeo® helps me stay on track with my blood sugar. ask your doctor about toujeo®. on this july 4th weekend, deadly terror attacks overseas. a suicide bombing outside of a u.s. consulate in saudi arabia, the death toll rising to 149 in the baghdad truck bombing linked to isis. and little investigation tops in bangladesh. we have developments from the london bureau. >> reporter: three attacks coin siding with the holy muslim holiday ramadan. latest in saudi arabia, a man tried to blow himself outside of the u.s. consulate. he killed only himself and wounding two guards. but the other two were quickly claimed by isis n. bangladesh 20 hostages were killed in the 11 hour stand off. the attackers were from privileged and educated backgrounds and including the son of a city leader. isis posted pictures of them on line. they shouted a llan ak bar. and torteured those who couldn't quote the ku'ran. one american was killed. she was a miami resident and student in emory university. and in bag dag the death toll is one pefb. it was the deadliest terror attack in a year. family members protested against the prime minister and hurling rocks and shoes and calling him a thief and saying he was unable to keep the capital city safe. terrorism in baghdad creates bigger problems and bangladesh there is a back lash. isis is successful when they kill people and starts to tear itself apart. >> it is that chaos they thrive in. thank you, benjamin. >> for more on the deadly terror attacks. we'll bring in tom >> why is this reach happening? and how far will it reach? >> the islamic called for a month of terror in ramadan. and we had it in paris, baghdad on saturday, massive truck bomb. and bangladesh. across the board. >> and the airliner in birut. it is a terrorist menace at the point p. and they are showing they are able to carry out operations anywhere at any time. >> and speaking of any time, i am getting information of a third possible terror attack that just breaking and happened in saudi arabia in medinna and we are working to get the latest information for you. another one. and a third one in saudi arabia today. >> it would not be be a surprise. the islamic state picked up the operational tempo and out paced by al-qaeda. al-qaeda is bigger in yemen and saudi arabia. but isis is agitating the attacks. >> we with talked about the statistics and it is amazing to think of this one in 2001, the year of the 9/11 attacks there were less than 50 that whole year. compare that to the latest numbers. >> 50 or less suicide attacks in 2001. isis is doubling that per month. first six months, isis claimed 100 suicide attacks per month. that is showing you how the ideology spread. very few people over all are willing to die on the jihadiist. and now they are blowing themselves in the name of the caliphate. >> benjamin hall talked about the terrorist in the bangladesh incident saying they came from privileged families. >> this is not a socio-economic problem. they try to reduce it to poverty or joblessness. ideology goes all across economic factors. and this was a big departure from isis style. we had evidence that they tried to separate out muslims from nonmuslims and that is a departure. >> and al-qaeda has practice. >> this is their mo. al-qaeda, they try to separate out muslimses and nonmuslims and try to target nonmuslim and isis is stepping up and doing that. usually they are discriminate. a truck driver drove up in blue up women and children. he killed a lot of shi tees. and what can we do to fight that when we have people willing to blow themselves. >> in baghdad, he killed a bunch of women and children. there should be messaging to undermine his claim to glory. >> 25 children and possibly rising in that incident. leland? >> hillary clinton is trying to contain the political fallout from the three and half-hour interview with the fbi about p the e-mail arrangement. will this drag her down in the convention and give donald trump a new line of attack and our political attack on deck to break it down. >> she understands she will have to earn people's trust and i give her credit for saying she made mistakes and will try to show the american people to work hard and earn their trust. i'm. he is. but i'd like to keep being terrible at golf for as long as i can. new patented ensure enlive has hmb plus 20 grams of protein to help rebuild muscle. for the strength and energy to do what you love. new ensure enlive. always be you. ugh. heartburn.g ] sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmmm. incredible. looks tasty. you don't have heartburn. new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. i don't want to lie down. i refuse to lie down. why suffer? 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>> exactly, you are talking about the convention, she has nothing to worry b. democrats lie in the bed of corruption. and you go toward the general election. you have the hillary and trump camps. how does it affect the independents and millennials. they are voting for more to trump. and millennials, she has to win over. obama coalition is won, and not inherited. >> we know that the person in the democratic side that was winning the millennials was not hillary clinton, how can she win them over from sanders. >> i don't think she would. she has obama campaign team. i don't think it is enough. he had the fact that he was barak obama. and he had voters supporting him last go around. she will not carry them this time. she can hope they stay home and they revolt against her and support donald trump or a third party candidate. >> and how does it. and is it possible for donald trump to use what is going on with hillary clinton in terms of honesty. >> it is a big deal with hillary clinton, you know, barak obama was a political outsider. he won millennials. and hillary clinton is a politician they don't trust. if they stay home they benefit republicans. i think that hillary clinton really has to focus on winning the young voterses. so does donald trump. if he produced the narrative of her being corrupt. if they stay home, he winses. >> it didn't help her argument when you have the incident with loretta lynch and bill clinton on the the runway in phoenix. >> no question, no question. we have sort of a cover up happening in the daylight. and like they are not covering up at this point. i wonder if bill clinton and loretta lynch wanted it to leak out. i question their motives. from the administration that we expected so much transparency. we are not getting it. it is it a fundmental frustration i have with the democratic party at this point. a lot of millennials are like that. >> and not only the e-mail investigation, but the investigation in to the clinton foundation and donations made to that. bill clinton could potentially be a witness. >> it was a horrible move by both of them and furthers the corruption narrative. and the new york times are saying that hillary clinton wants to keep lynch as attorney general. you are seeing the connecting the dots and corruption with the political elite. and that furthers the narrative. if you want it to continue as usual vote for hillary clinton. and millennials, 85 percent believe that everything coming out of washington is wrong. you combine those unfavorables. they will not turn out for her. and this time around, just like the last time they will decide the election by p not showing up. >> it will not benefit president obama and joe biden campaigning with her. >> it will not help her at all. >> thank you for joining us. appropriate -- appreciate it. >> 40 years ago today. fox news remembers the israeli commando raid. >> and we celebrate independence day and celebrate all of those that fought for our freedom and then this incredible medal of honor recipient, coming up. he was gravely wounded and on the torso. he was on the radio explaining to me what went o. that was the lynchpen of the battle. >> i owed it to do the same. you're late for work. you grab your 10-gallon jug of coffee, and back out of the garage. right into your wife's car. with your wife watching. she forgives you... eventually. your insurance company, not so much. they say you only have their basic policy. don't basic policies cover basic accidents? 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>> reporter: heather, operation thunder bolt was like a scone from a movie and in fact, it inspired the two different motion pictures. prime minister netanyahu's plane made a different publicized landing in uganda to the one made by p commandos 41 years today. they flew over 200 miles to rescue israeli passengers and 12 flight crew. a former hostage relieved how they were hijacked by palestinian terrorist on an air france flight where the president offered refuge. they rescued all but four. but prime minister said it is it a deeply moving day for him. only one israeli was killed in this mission. the prime minister's brother. >> when terrorism succeeds in one place, it spreaded to other places. terrorism is weakened everywhere. >> and one final note, president netanyahu and the israeli team are offering ugandat;:ez+ assis in anti- terrorism. that is rather ironic, heather? >> thank you, paul. >> as we celebrate america's birthday, we honor all of the brave men and women who put their lives on the line to protect us. army captain paul buka served in the vietnam war with a motley crew. when bukka's men were penneded down by the north vietnamese. he came up with a crafty plan to save his men. that plan earned him a medal of honor. >> you come back to west point and you remember what you were and the fire of integrity burns brighter. i come here for. that my youth growing up as an army brat they called us. i then was a in the military and accepted an appointment in west point. west point is the epitome of leadership and training and organization. and all of that based on a foundation of honor. after graduation, a went to stanford. i graduated from stanford as a first lieutenant as an air-borne ranger and assigned to the 101 first airborne. i am here to report to the ten onest. you will be a company commander and i said what company is that? delta 3rd. i didn't know delta had that. next month you will be the only one. that meant i would get anybody who didn't want somebody to send them and we would accept them. the losers of all losers. no one wanted to go to it war with me either. we were sent to the most dangerous place in vietnam. it was hell on earth. we wouldn't go out on a mission and sit for five days, you came in it from the mission. you went out 2 or 3 hours later. and the night of the 18th 4:00 in the afternoon, i had quite a few people med vacced out and left 89 of us. and we were at half strength. most of the time they stop and we pressed on. and they see people carrying rice. one of the alert people long range patrol. can we fire a few rounds to see what happens. the entire amount returned fire. i said oh, my god. i heard from the radio. another 6 or 7 didn't make it. i told everybody. we are going to throw hand grenades. outside of the perimeter and we are going to do is go around and i will say left right. and front back and they will fire and just throw hand grenades and i would do that all night long. and this is an idea to trick them. and wow, it must be a good unit f. they had known we were quoin people or 79 people, they would have attacked and wiped us out. and then, i got a radio call from an australian pilot. and i said who are you. >> i am a jet with 257 bombs. i said can you lower the hills and knock them down a bit. he said got. it keep your head down. and then the jet. and we bounced. and when i turned around my men were all laughing and i started laughing. and we realized we are not in this alone. i get a call on the radio. and they say it is time to move out. i said we have done enough. and i described these guys in the institution of the army had judged them as losers, they were among the most decorated in the war when where they proved themselves to be winners and when ten men died, and the person in charge failed to bring them home, somehow that legitimizes the story and i was notified i would receive it and i would turn it down. he said it is not about you. it is about your men. you wear it for them and if there is an attribute called "hero" they deserve be it and not me. every time i come to west point, they know their job. it will not pay them any money or send them to paris, france. it will send them to a place they can't find on a map and whose language they cannot speak and culture they do not understand and not go once but twice, 3 or 4 times and you are going alone and they still come. i am getting far more out of this than you are. and for that i apologize. i don't care, i have to get inspired, too. and when i meet them, they are inspiring. >> you would think the cadetses who are meeting the medal of honor recipients. they are inspired. and the each recipients of a medal of honor said i am not a hero, this is not me to the man. >> that is deserved recognition. and i met many of them on patriot's point in south carolina last year where they unveiled the vietnam memorial. >> i remember that, you did a great job. >> still to come. new detail its on the deadly alligator attack in the disney resort. we with are learning now two alligators are involved and what does that mean for a possible lawsuit, plus this. >> down on the ground and get your hand on the floor and i look and there is blood everywhere. >> a disabled cancer patient attacked by tsa agents at an airport. and the legal panel weighs in on the case up next. . . . . . . . . >> there is new information on on the tragic alligator attack in disneyworld that claimed the life of a two-year-old boy. two alligator was actually involved. the father said a second alligator bit him while he tried to save his son from the first lane. the boy was playing when the alligator snatched him. his body was recovered 15 yards from shore. legal panels are with us. doug burns and former prosecutor and defense attorney. you have to think it is a slam dunk case to take. wendy, does the idea of a second alligator change it much. >> some people say one alligator and maybe disney didn't know the alligators are in the lagoon. now it is worse. it is signs of the time. signage, no swimming, not danger alligators. and this by was wading and so close to the the shore line. and yes, it might be twice as bad. >> disney had an alligator mitigation unit and you talk about the sign. we have a picture of the sign that said no swimming and the new sign said danger alligator and snakes and they have a fence up around the lagoon. is that an admission? >> they have the subsequent repair rule. it is a different contest, when you make a change like that and put alligators and snakes in the area. that highlights and reenforced it was not there earlier. >> and practical. disney doesn't want extended negative publicity. it is it a good case and they will settle this case in my view. >> we heard of them make great overtours to the family and we know about that from the time we were down there. >> and the other case, this is disturbing pictures. the family of a disabled cancer patient is filing a case against the tsa. she had a 2015 encounter with security agents. the agents slammed hannah to the ground after she set off the body scanner. cohenand her mother were on the way home from st. jude hospital. she was treated with a brain tumor. and the tsa was told about this and still you have the incident. is that enough to sue, that picture. >> that combined with with what was observe ped in the scene. one of the things i gleaned from the case, you can't detect the disability by looking. the mother was explaining and tried to to tell the tsa agents. >> it is shocking they didn't care. i can't imagine them turning a blind eye. >> it looks so bad. you can imagine headed for a settlement. what can we learn from it and tsa learn how to handle the unpredictability and high anxiety to begin with. >> it is a horrible optic and just got down with cancer treatment and has tremendous jury a pole. but little bit of caution. and develop all of the facts. what did they tell tsa? what was the response and drill >> what was she arrested for. she spent the night in jail. >> disorderly conduct. >> and how does past practice of the tsa play in? so many problems and you go in to discovery, there are 15 or 20 cases involving the tsa accused of wrongdoing. does that play into it? >> there are so many facts and circumstances that tsa has to react to. they have to have eyes on and looking for things that that ar suspicious. somebody sets off a metal detector that doesn't have a weapon, as in the case of this girl. you look at past practices. they also look at cellphone footage, i hate to say it, everybody's got their cellphone out. you have to judge each case on its own facts and merits. >> thanks, we appreciate it. heather, what's coming up? >> fourth of july celebrations on this independence day. they're going on in a big day. abby huntsman has more from nashville, next. you don't let anything keep you sidelined. that's why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing... ...what you love. ensure. always be you. hei don't want one that's haded a big wreck just say, show me cars with no accidents reported find the cars you want, avoid the ones you don't plus you get a free carfax® report with every listing i like it start your used car search at carfax.com ugh. heartburn.g ] sorry ma'am. no burning here. try new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they work fast and don't taste chalky. mmmm. incredible. looks tasty. you don't have heartburn. new alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. #proudamerican. fourth of july celebrations are kicking into high gear. abby, you have been having a great time all weekend long, i'm jealous. >> reporter: heather, i wish you were here, we would have a blast together. i'm having too much fun, to be honest, the party is only going to get greater throughout the day. we've done the honkytonk, i recorded a song at one of the studios. i was able to pretend sing and even dance in front of 40,000 people. take a look at this. >> is there any way i can get a tour? 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detonated a device near what's called the prophet's mosque in saudi arabia, home to the second holiest site in all islam. the blast followed two other attacks today. this is the last day of the muslim holy month of ramadan where folks fast every day. today is also the start of a festival which is a big muslim celebration. we do not know who is responsible for this attack. isis, though, has called for attacks surrounding ramadan. pictures circulating on social media show dark smoke billowing from flames at that mosque in saudi arabia. and on this independence day, we do begin with news of tightened security amid major holiday celebrations in washington, d.c. and new york city, both holding large fourth of july events, because of the rise in terrorism all over the world thanks to isis. welcome to "happening now." i'm heather childers. >> nice to be with you at home. put another burger on the grill. when we a lot of news and politics to get to. i'm leland vittert on this fourth of july. crowds celebrating in washington, d.c. under very tight security. and 3 million people are expected to pack the shores of new york city's east river for the biggest fireworks display since 2000. those three terror attacks overseas in the past week, a number of terror attacks today, has the nypd rambling up security measures for the show and all across the city, also in your hometown as well. brian has more for us from battery park. >> reporter: leland, as you said, 3 million people are expected to hit the streets of new york tonight for the nation's largest fireworks show. it's the 4th anniversary of the macy's fireworks spectacular, pyrotechnics shooting off the five barges on the east river. given the events of today and what happened in orlando and turkey and bangladesh and in baghdad, all eyes are on security. today the nypd has pulled out all the stops. hercules counterterrorism units, plainclothes police officers, radiation detection units, and manpower. all 1200 new officers who graduated friday from the academy are patrolling the streets today. >> as we always have the capacity in new york to do, is put out a lot of resources. the name of the game in dealing with terrorist threats, as it is in crime, is to prevent to the greatest degree possible. certainly we'll have the capability to respond if something were to occur. but we're not anticipating that, but we'll plan for it, certainly. >> reporter: new this year as an elite team of eight elite canines called the vapor weight canines, trained to track and sniff out explosive scents in the air. they're the last line of defense to stop a suicide bomber in the crowd or somebody delivering a package. these vapor dogs were deployed yesterday for the first time ever when the bomb squad was called into central park when a tourist had his left foot was blown off in central park. officials say this likely was not put out purposely to hurt someone, but it has people on edge. again, no specific threat to anyone in the united states today, but be vigilant, given the events happening in the world today, leland. >> and also those calls by isis for attacks specifically during the month of ramadan. bryan llenas live from what is a calm battery park. fireworks later. thanks, bryan. heather has more. a blast hit a mosque, as we've been telling you, in the country known to be the second holiest site in islam. a suicide bomber carrying out an attack at the u.s. consulate this morning, coming in the wake of attacks in bangladesh and baghdad that left hundreds dead over the weekend. steve rogers with a former member of the joint fbi task force and a retired commander in the navy office of naval intelligence. thank you for coming in on independence day. as families celebrate, we're on edge because of these terrorist attacks that have hit home as recently as orlando. >> heather, the president of the united states has consistently said that isis is on the run. he's not telling us that they're running towards us. don't forget, keep in mind these attacks like in saudi arabia, they're killing muslims. >> targeting shias. >> exactly. they're letting us know they'll hit any time, any place. i believe our government has failed to respond proportionately to them. >> and what do you think that response should have been? >> it should have been and still should be a shock and awe massive military bombardment of isis headquarters, their command and control center, their supply lines, cut them off at the head. that will send a very clear message that they're going to have to stop this and stop it very, very soon. >> but we see them losing territory in iraq and in syria. but we see them as a result of that moving beyond those borders. >> heather, they've changed their strategy. they may be losing territory, but they've gained. they're taking what we use in military terms, the battle space, and moving it closer and closer to the united states. i've said it before, i'll say it again, we better wake up because the battlefield is not going to be over there. it's going to be right here in the united states. >> it doesn't seem to matter whether isis specifically and directly is involved in the attack or in it's someone, and i know a lot of people don't like this term, but a lone wolf. >> they're using their influence, social media, training clips, et cetera. isis, some way, some how, is always connected to someone who has committed a terrorist attack. we've learned that. the way we combat it in the long term is the ideology. in the short term, that massive military strike. unfortunately you've got to bring ground troops in and take control of that part of the world, because if we don't, they'll take control of this part of the world. >> what concerns me is how things seem to be changing just a little bit. if you look at the latest attacks, where they hold hostages and release pictures to try to get additional coverage, send it out on twitter and things like that. >> they've learned the longer they keep a military operation, and make no mistake about it, this isn't criminal elements, these are military combatants. the longer they keep hostages, the more news coverage they get. what they should have done in bangladesh is take them out immediately. >> why did they do that? >> poor training, poor operations. i believe if that was here, our police departments would have went in and taken them out immediately. we've learned you don't negotiate with tehank you so mue it. hopefully today nothing else will happen. >> let's pray that it doesn't. >> thank you. leland? donald trump is staying busy this fourth of july on twitter, tweeting out this morning that he will be meeting with iowa freshman senator joni ernst, as the trump campaign begins vetting vice presidential candidates. peter doocy is live in washington, d.c. with more. we've got ernst and mike pence. >> right, leland. today it is relative newcomer joni ernst. he writes, "she has done a great job at senator of iowa." yesterday also in new jersey, the presumptive gop nominee spent the day with indiana governor mike pence, another short lister who fits his running mate requirement, a lot of experience in d.c. he wrote later he was very impressed with pence and his family. pence says, quote, what i could tell you was that this was an enjoyable personal time between two families and we got to know each other a lot better. nothing was offered, nothing was accepted. trump is also responding today to hillary clinton's claim that she only knew her husband and the attorney general loretta lynch met privately after she heard about it on the news. trump writes now, quote, only a fool would believe the meeting between bill clinton and the usag was not arranged or that crooked hillary did not know. we are just two weeks away now from the start of the rnc convention in cleveland. for several months some bald face republican establishment types have announced that they don't want to speak if trump is the nominee. it doesn't sound like that's going to be a problem filling roster spots for trump because the associated press is now reporting that some of the stars trump wants to speak are don king, bobby knight, and tom brady. leland? >> a lot of questions, if those names will get television eyeballs and get folks out to the ballot box. jamie weinstein didn't seem to think so earlier. peter, appreciate it. >> those three, i think people will tune in to see what they have to say, for sure. >> i would. hillary clinton meeting for hours over the weekend with fbi investigators about her private e-mail server. how close are we to a resolution and will clinton's campaign pay a political price no matter what the legal outcome? plus tragic details breaking in the search for an american college student who disappeared just after arriving in italy. in the '70s, we were young naval aviators, all fired up. we went out to this restaurant in port-au-prince, haiti. this gentleman came he ever from a table across 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the timing is terrible, this couldn't come at a worse time. or could it have come at the best time? saturday, a holiday weekend, if you're going to meet with the fbi, that's the time you do it, and you roll out with president obama on tuesday. >> sure, it's a busy holiday weekend. people tend to be outside, not at home, paying attention to the news. i think it was actually an optimal time for mrs. clinton to face this interview with the fbi. still, it is wishful thinking for her democratic allies to say this is going to go away right now. a lot of factors say this is not going to go away for her and going to persist through the conventions and into the general election. >> i was talking to a democratic state senator from ohio a little bit earlier and she said, you know, people who are diehard democrats, yourself included, would probably agree with this, they don't really care that mrs. clinton was investigated by the fbi, but she said swing voters in ohio really are concerned about it and they talk to her about it. how does hillary clinton work to rebuild from right now a 30% honest and trustworthy number? >> it was just last week that hillary clinton talked about her trust numbers. and she said that she has some work to do and that trust is earned, and she's going to spend the next few months making sure that voters now that she is going to be the person who is fighting hardest for them. i think, though, what is very -- >> you just said two different things. one is earning trust, which is tough to rework a 25-year track record in two or three months. the next is fighting hard for them. which is the issue here? >> the 25 years, what i was referencing was the 25 years of right wing attacks on her. no words, no actions are going to be able to magically erase all of that. the reason those voters in ohio, talking to the state senator, are focused on this e-mail campaign is because we have in the media covered it so significantly, while at the same time has there even been a peep about the sexual assault charges that are a federal civil case against donald trump right now? look, there is -- >> susan, hold on. as a reporter do you think it's fair that the mainstream media has covered the e-mail scandal in a really aggressive way? >> why wouldn't they? she's a presidential candidate. she's the former secretary of state. she's the first presidential candidate to be under investigation by the fbi. i think the media has not covered it enough. >> correct me if i'm wrong, as far as i know "the washington post" didn't announce they're bringing on 20 reporters to look into hillary clinton's e-mail in the way they announced they're hiring reporters to examine donald trump. >> hillary clinton is the most scrutinized public figure in a lifetime. but she understands she'll have to face this trust issue head on. she said quite clearly she made a mistake. that will resonate with voters. they understand that other secretaries of state have used private e-mail 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away from home at times throughout my military career. i grew up in a quiet little town. life was always easy, life was always good. looking back, being a brand-new basic training, laying in this bed, never would have thought i would be here today. goes to show what life can bring toward you. the combat out post was at the time the most farthest north coalition force in the province. valley, surrounded by mountains on either side. very isolated, very remote. just a spot that you shake your head when you see it but you also accept the mission that's given. on october 3rd, 2009, just about 6:00 a.m., it wasn't uncommon to get shot at around that time. that was typically our wake-up call from them. got up and clicked on the radio and you could hear the intensity of fire coming in. and you just instantly knew this wasn't your daily kind of wake-up call. this was something different. they had done the research. they had instantly started suppressing our gun trucks on the perimeter, instantly was suppressing the mortar pit, couldn't get those guys up. had us surrounded 360 degrees. the helicopter support was going to be a while out. and unfortunately, yeah, within that first hour we finally got the word that the enemy was inside the wire, that we had lost contact and gotten isolated from a group of guys at the gun truck. finally, the call had to come out that we were going to hold up into what we call the alamo position, one of the toughest things to do, to sit there and say we've got three buildings that we can control, coming to the moment, if this this going to be it, let's do something drastic, going on the counterattack to recapture our analyst supply point. a group of volunteers just asked, hey, we're going to take this bitch back, see them stand up and tell me, we'll follow you anywhere, and to see that commitment that day, to go out and understand that if the roles were reversed, if we were stuck up at that hum-vee, we knew that gallegos and that team would come get us. we had to do everything to go get them. finally got some pretty good air coverage on to finally make it up and recover the fallen heroes we had lost. after almost 13, 14 hours, finally having control and accountability of everyone. you start dropping 500,000 pound bombs, it's unbelievable, it's also refreshing. we always thought we would rather take the chances of those great fly boys dropping precision bombs. i think they'll be good enough that we'll make it out all right and they'll put the hurt on the enemy pretty well. it wasn't until getting the phone call and then to finally go out to d.c. and they sit there and tell you, you'll be receiving the medal of honor. that's something that never in a million years did i think i would meet a recipient, let alone be one, and set there and understand that, you know, the medal is not something that's given out. it comes at a price. i wrote "red platoon" because as veterans, to share our stories, to make sure that people understand our service and sacrifice. and eight men never got to come home. i did. they gave up way more than anything that was ever required of me. if it wasn't for their sacrifice, i wouldn't be here. the medal is not mine. it's those men and women that are still serving today. my definition of a hero are those that don't come home. they give up everything to make sure we're free and safe. that's what a true hero is right there. >> absolutely. after 16 years, the war still goes on in afghanistan, with a lot of questions. >> in afghanistan, still guys now back in iraq, in more and more danger every day. special forces inside syria. as much as you admire these special forces, admire anyone who is out there fighting for us, you do have to wonder how much longer it's going to go on, how long this is. we had vietnam that was so long before. this has far exceeded any war the u.s. has ever been in. >> absolutely. one of the commanders said last week he expects 2016 to be worse than 2015 in 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liberty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance. a fox news alert for you. searchers have found the body of an american college student who had gone missing in rome. john cabot university in rome making the tragic announcement of beau solomon. he had arrived days before in an exchange program. he went out with friends but when the group decided to leave, he was already gone. courtney walsh joins us on the phone. definitely not the news the family was hoping for. >> reporter: not at all, heather. we're still waiting for official confirmation. officers told me they had the family identify the corpse and complete the forensic identification. john cabot university issued a statement saying, we are deeply saddened to announce that the body of beau solomon has been found. the 19-year-old student had been planning to study on an exchange program. hours after arriving he went to a bar near tiber river and disappeared. the italian news agency say two people claim to have seen a man throw a person into the tiber the night he disappeared. his family is in rome and his brother jake said several thousand dollars had been charged to his credit card after he went missing. students who were there said he wasn't drunk. he survived cancer as a child. the bar is popular with tourists and students. italy does not have a legal drinking age and the so-called public pub crawl has become a classic. one student fell off a concrete wall along the tiber river one night after drinking. another walked into a tunnel and was hit by a train. tragically for beau, his first night in rome was also his last. heather, back to you. >> we know about these charges about his credit card, hopefully they'll get some answers. thank you so much. we appreciate the update. turning now to new fallout from the brexit vote that could affect not only your job but your 401(k) as well. nigel farage, a leading brexit spokesman and head of the uk labor party is stepping down. but there are plenty of questions in europe and here at home about the fallout from brexit. obviously the market is closed today for july 4th, but take a look at this. stocks tanked after the vote but a rally has brought it back to pre-brexit levels. are we out of the woods? are we out of the woods? the dow is back up, things are good. >> well, look. this situation has been really a disaster, certainly, for england. a lot of people thought it would be a good thing. it's proven to not be a good thing. i think short teller to medium term it actually will be good for americans in many ways, because certainly if you've ever wanted to go to england, now is the time, because the dollar is so much stronger against the pound. on the other side of the fence, there is the potential for things to slow down, because consumers in england won't have as much money. but the benefits to americans are great, because interest rates will either stay where they're at or actually can go down even lower. great time to refinance things, to do borrowing, et cetera. so all in all, it should be pretty good for consumers. >> you have to think it's unlikely that the fed is going to raise rates in a time like this. as you look at this in the broader picture here, we have no idea how brexit is going to affect things, we don't even know if brexit is going to happen, how it's going to happen, whether they're going to invoke article 50. how can you say it's proven to be a terrible thing when we have no answers to any of the questions? >> well, i think we do have some answers, which is it has great uncertainty. and for investors, leland, that's the big thing. uncertainty means i'm not going to invest. uncertainty means i'm going to stay on the sidelines. when people stay on the sidelines, when businesses don't invest, we have problems. it lowers economic activity. consumers retrench. certainly jobs are not there. so these are the things we do know. and it's a concern. it's a concern certainly in the united states, where this was being compared to what's happening in the united states. and sometimes what looks to be a good thing may not always be a good thing. >> fair enough on the timing of this. if you think about it last couple of financial crises that we've endured, everybody thought the greek crisis would melt down the world economy, we saw the run on banks in cyprus, we thought that would be the end of economic growth we've seen as of late. is part of the problem with brexit that you can't solve it right away, there can't be an overnight balanceoilout and poo move on to something else? >> you got it. because we have the uncertainty, we also have the question of how much can the central banks really do, how much can the bank of england really help. the big thing in all of this is it requires the will of policymakers. and we know, look, in the united states, that's the biggest issue. washington is inept, it's broken. it's not taking action. there isn't the guts to move forward. the same types of problems in england. and it really will require policymakers to step up, to cut taxes, to look at ways to be able to stimulate the economy from an infrastructure at some point. so unless that happens, you're putting a band-aid on things. >> last 30 seconds for you. moving this back home, you talk about uncertainty. a lot of uncertainty here at home is, whichever the new president is going to be, their economic policies are likely to be vastly different. president clinton, president trump, very different economic outlook. which does the market start pricing that uncertainty in? >> i think it's been priced in to a certain extent. i think as we get closer, really, depending on what flushes out with the different programs that these different candidates show, i think the market may get a little more volatile. the good thing is both candidates want to invest in infrastructure, which certainly isn't necessarily a republican issue on the part of trump, but it's a good one for the country. so i think that the markets will see that. and that could be overall a good thing. but look, it's hard to know. certainly, in the short to medium term, with respect to brexit, i wouldn't worry as an investor in the stock market. i think that the u.s. economy is still good, and i think that the fed will be watchful about what happens. so i don't think it will affect american investors. >> all right, eric schiffer, it certainly affected them for a couple of days last week. >> that's true. >> we appreciate your time, thank you. >> thank you, leland. the blue angels are back. it comes after the tragic crash on june 2nd that killed a navy captain during a blue angels practice flight in tennessee. the navy is still investigating the cause of that crash. this video shows the plane was free falling shortly after takeoff. welcome back. and as we move on here, space mission five years in the making. what scientists are hoping to learn from the juneau spacecraft that's set to drop into jupiter's orbit late 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clinton's lead over republican donald trump has narrowed to about 5 percentage points. as you can see, clinton with 45.6. trump, 40.4. trump also has high negatives. we'll break this down more as the hours go by. >> still a way to go, though. right now police in florida are investigating a deadly plane crash. a small experimental aircraft went down in the everglades west of miami. the police confirm the pilot was in fact killed. it took them seven hours to find the wreckage after it went down in a swampy area. still a lot of questions in outli outer space. scientists are hoping to get a look at the solar system's largest planet tonight. as we watch fireworks, this probe is expected to fall into orbit around jupiter. the billion dollar spacecraft has been hurtling through space for the last five years. it all comes down to one very precise maneuver in a few hours. claudia cowan joins us from los angeles. >> reporter: that's right, leland. the rocket burn is happening later on tonight. the juno spacecraft is on a mission to discover how the giant planet came to be. juno was put on auto pilot several days ago. this critical maneuver comes without any help from ground controllers. once it's in orbit, juno will spend the next 20 months helping scientists learn how jupiter formed. they say that could then unlock other mysteries. >> juno is really searching for some hints about our beginnings, how everything started, how did the solar system get started. but these secrets are pretty well-guarded by jupiter. and it's a pretty formidable. so the team, as you would imagine, is incredibly excited with anticipation, mixed with the incredible tension of the reality of what we face. >> reporter: and this is just the last part of juno's 1.7 billion mile journey. it used earth's gravity to sling shot to mars and then jupiter. as part of the billion dollar mission, juno will peer into jupiter's atmosphere and send back close-up images of its poles, that great red spot, and spectacular auroras. and get this, three legos are hitching a ride, galileo, jupiter, and jupiter's wife juno, intended to excite and inspire the next generation of scientists and engineers. once the mission is over, juno will burn up in jupiter's atmosphere to avoid any of its moons. leland, jupiter actually has more than 60 moons. and scientists say that juno could possibly discover even more. >> at least those legos will get a beautiful view before they burn up on their way through jupiter's atmosphere. thanks, claudia. >> poor galileo and his buddies. our next guest has tips on how to stay healthy during your next long flight or car trip. welcome back. aaa predicts a record 43 million americans will travel over this fourth of july holiday weekend. that means busy road, crowded airports, long wait times for all of us. but our next guest says we can use all that time to stay healthy. so let's bring in dr. losingy, -- dr. lucy, owner of active. we saw video of the one of the worst things that happens, the long lines at the tsa. so, what can we do to stay healthy when we're standing there for hours? >> correct your posture, engage your muscles and do movement. first, put the heavy bag down. use the bag as a weight, so every time the line moves, squat down, gate little leg workout, pick up the bag, moved forward, drop it back down, or just slide the bag with a leg so that works on your balance, your core, and hip strength. >> oh, okay. i'm not sure what people around me would think as i was doing squats with me suitcase. once you get on the plane, what about how to stay healthy the seat? >> you want to produce a little movement because movement helps the circulation and feelings of stiffness and fatigue. so when it is safe, get out of your seat and walk down the aisle, or if your stuck in your seat, move the body parts. so, things like ankle circles, knee to chest, even -- >> that can be serious, very serious. need to get up and move around, especially the longer the flight. >> you don't want to get clots followerring forming in the legs. >> other people will by hitting the reed. safety tips how to remain healthy in a car. >> try to stay balanced in the carment don't lean on one armrest or the other. don't touch your -- tuck your legs under you or put them on the dash. you shorten the muscles and feel stiff and you're clamping down on your own circulation, so don't want to get any nerve compression. >> what about nerves? just nerves in general? traveling can be very stressful. >> yes. you want to stay balanced -- take rest breaks that actually is important because you can stand up and move out of the car and just get the blood circulating, and just -- you'll get there in time. just -- >> also important tip to pass along to any children that may be traveling with you, large families. >> just have some entertain independent the car for them, and make sure that everyone stays well hide traited and as hutch -- much as possible try not to cross your 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VietnamRepublic-ofAustraliaTiber-riverItaly-general-ItalyParisFrance-general-FranceTurkeySyria and dramatic crash. it is all "happening now". and we begin with with the gop- led house oversight committee pursuing perjury charges against hillary clinton. >> hello, everyone. i am eric shaun in for jon scott. >> there is a letter from the u.s. attorney's office and detail criminal comments between the sworn testimony about the e-mails and what the fbi found in the investigation this they say contradicts what mrs. clinton claimed. >> we have catherine herridge with more in dc. >> reporter: the republicans released the video contradicting the testimony of hillary clinton with the fbi director. the 30000 e-mails and government records there are discrepance uponies. >> did someone physically look at 62000 e-mails or did you use search terms and date perimeters. >> they did all of that and went through every single e-mail. >> lawyers did not individually read the content of all of her e-mails as we did for those available to us. >> in the brief letter, the justice department made no commitment to act on the the allieses or is there a time frame provided. the fbi analysis comparing what clinton told congress and investigators should take weeks and not months. >> it is a record established what she said and the investigation is complete on what she said subsequent to that congressional testimony, that would be a relative simple matter to make a decision of perjury. >> reporter: the clinton campaign said the director comey testimony cleared up discrepancies and the republicans disagree on this point, jenna. >> something we will watch. the house committee highway lighted the video with the discrepancies. we'll take a look. >> there were two servers? >> no, there was a server. >> just one. and so just one server and that is what the fbi has. >> the fbi has the server that was used in the tenure of my state department service. >> secretary clinton used several different servers in the four years in the state department. >> i provided the department which has been providing you with with all of my work- related e-mails. >> the fbi also discovered several thousand work related e-mails that were not among the group of 30000 returned by secretary of state. >> and so is there a possible criminal case. >> saris a watch dog for the washington reporter. and dan is here also. dan, can mrs. clinton be charged with perjury to what she said under oath? does that make it criminal? >> certainly she can be. but the question is will she be? i doubt it. the statements to the committee were not true. perjury is a legal charge. are they convictable false statements she made to congress. that is a judgment call and since mrs. clinton is the nominee for one of the two major parties for presidency, they would have to be be absolutely certain they would be able to convict her and not charge her. >> sarah, what do you think? you think it will stay in the political realm. >> the reason why the fbi decloined to push charges against hillary clinton, they didn't find criminal intent behind her actions and that could be why the perjury case moved forward. they might find they don't match the evidence uncovered by the fbi. but they may find evidence that she knowing he filed false statements. you will find the case fail to move forward. >> how can you prove that? dan, three of the little c's that former president clinton called bull. but they were classifiededí6úq] material. and type e mails and discrepe pansy that she said they turned over all of the material to the state department. it was not true. >> no, it was not true, as a political matter, the e-mail is hillary clinton's biggest political vulnerability. >> why is that? >> it started in march of last year and she tried to explain what was going on with that server. and commentators said what she said that day was not credible. hillary clinton, from day one of the server story is half truths. and her numbers of credibility is under 30 percent now. and most americans do not believe most of the things that hillary clinton says now. and if donald trump were to raise this issue over and over in detail that this is a point, and effect her political a chilles heel. no one believes her. >> sarah, dan is saying that the untrustworthiness poll numbers started a long time ago and will continue. and they are going to release a summary of the evidence that could potentially lay out the whole case dealing with her, information that we don't know about? >> exactly. and beyond the fact that we are still waiting to see notes from the fbi about the investigation and beyond the fact that there is lingering questions of potential perjury, hillary clinton keeps the story in the headlines. every time she is faced with the issue her answers are called in question. she said she short circuited and told chris wallace that the testimony from james comey exonerated her. and her to not be willing to admit she was careless with classified information, that is making inrods in the e-mail controversy. >> it will not go away. the state department will review 110 classified e-mails. what happens if they come out, black, black, black and showing all of the classified material on this? >> most of the pnl will conclude there was classified material. and she denied that. and it raises issues of her own fitness to be president. they don't want to vote for hillary clinton for president. and this is one of the primary reasons that her inability to give a straight answer about anything related to the e-mails raised doubts about whether they want to put her in the oval office. >> if we see a e-mail that said dear madam secretary, and it is blacked out, the trump people could use that in a commercial. jenna? >> it is a hot bed of illegal immigration. donald trump and hillary clinton with different plans and both coming under fire. william has the story? los angeles. >> reporter: jenna, clinton and trump disagree on everything. trump wants a wall and hillary doesn't. she defends sanctuary cities and he would cut off federal aid. and deport 11 million illegal immigrants and she offers citizenship. >> those who patrol it disagree. >> people are turning themselves in and we are luck toe catch 40 percent of those who don't turn themselves in. >> reporter: hillary clinton promises to legalize the illegals that are here. >> let's move to comprehensive illegals. >> and trump would require employers hire americans first. new imdprapts need to prove they will not need welfare and require employers to verify immigration status before hiring a worker. >> he views immigration from a euro- sum kind of attitude and hillary clinton recognizes that immigration have for a long time continue to be a net positive for the country. >> clinton promises to stop deportations and close immigrant centers. >> i will not deport children or families. >> agents call that open border. >> we are allowing too many to come in unchecked and unvetted and free roam in our country. >> clunton said she would use executive authority and offer work permits if congress refuses to has. it has rejected comprehensive immigration reform five times in the last ten years. >> donald trump is holding a town hall tonight with sean hanitiy. >> there is new fears in the wake of the coup in turkey. the american war planes about 50, but are they safe in that unstable country. >> and the former secretary putting terrorist on the defense? donald trump said that is not the case. our next guest agrees with mr. trump. >> the rise of isis is direct result of policy decisions made by president obama and secretary of state clinton. it's a fact. kind of like bill splitting equals nitpicking. but i only had a salad. it was a buffalo chicken salad. salad. the search for relief often leads... here... here... or here. today, there's a new option. introducing drug-free aleve direct therapy. a tens device with high intensity power that uses technology once only available in doctors' offices. its wireless remote lets you control the intensity. and helps you get back to things like... this... this... or this. and back to being yourself. introducing new aleve direct therapy. find yours in the pain relief aisle. ♪ don't just eat. ♪ mangia! bertolli. to be taken care of. in good hands? like finding new ways home, car, life insurance obviously, ohhh... but with added touches you can't get everywhere else, like claim free rewards... or safe driving bonus checks. even a claim satisfaction guaranteeeeeeeeeee! in means protection plus unique extras only from an expert allstate agent. it's good to be in, good hands. >> we have a president that doesn't want to say the words. anyone who cannot name our enemy is not fit to lead our country. anyone who cannot condemn the hatred and violence of islam lacks the moral clarity to serve as our president. the rise of isis is the direct result of policy decisions made by president obama and secretary of state clinton. >> donald trump blaming president obama and hillary clinton for the rise of isis in the foreign policy address yesterday. and even before he started talking, mrs. clinton and vice-president biden were slamming his ideas. former national security advisor daniel benjamin said isis is on the defensive because of clinton's policy. >> her turn in the state department was a positive one and saw the virtual defeat of al-qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan. and that was the greatest threat we faced after 9/11. isis is on the retreat right now. and we have seen news that suggest that their territory has been reduced 40 or more percent. and the leadership is destroyed in iraq and syria and afghanistan and libya. and many other places and secretary clinton as president would be aggressive to pummel their sanctuaries. >> we is have the senior editor from the journal. mr. benjamin had a high position advising mrs. clinton and the state department. his claims one by one. is al-qaeda defeated? >> no, on june 28th. the presidential envoy to the coalition testified before the senate and said the front in syria was the largest al-qaeda affiliate in history. this is correct and we documented it in the long board journal and they were so worried about the scrutiny they changed the name and rebranded and much reported they had split. that is not true. this goes to show the fast disparity and what elite people say about these things. on the one hand al-qaeda has the largest paramilitary in syria right now. >> and the reason i wanted to focus on the statement, in 2012, we heard al-qaeda is on the run and that was familiar on the campaign trail and i wonder federal we would hear it from hillary clinton. i wanted to check out the facts. >> october of last year, the u.s. military destroyed the largest training camp that al-qaeda had in afghanistan. >> ever? >> before or after 9/11. it doesn't matter. they were putting hundreds of trainees through the camp. and the files recovered in osama bin laden's compound showed that al-qaeda had a massive foot print in afghanistan and aligned with the taliban. and the spent forces a political narrative and very few people are are looking at the facts. >> talking about isis. we are hearing that isis on retreat mainly pointing to geographical territory. >> isis has lost a grip on areas. but they can launch operations in syria and iraq. and the expansion of the anti- western and reaching out in europe and inspire attacks the areas in the west. we don't know what is directed by them. >> just because they have less territory is not less power. they want to control the territory for sure and that is a big important step absolutely. but the problem is, they pose more than just territory threats. >> trump is claiming that president obama and hillary clinton essentially created isis and the terrorism that we are facing today. that is a question that many struggled with. about who is to blame for terrorist; how would you answer that? >> his speech was better p than calling president obama the founder of isis. the legitimate argument is when the last american troops were pulled out. according to the state department the country terrorism report said isis had only 1 or 2000 fighters. flash forward they had 20 or 31000. some of us were arguing don't pull all of the american troops out of iraq. they need to stay there to keep it camped down. the american troops were pulled out so quickly meant we were not there to fight them. and there are many causes and this is one of them. >> not one person or political parrott owns that. >> sure. >> what would you like both candidates to talk about when it comes to america being more successful on the war on terror? >> we don't understand is not just terrorism. they are looking to it overturn political order of the countries that's why terrorism pops back up. they have spread the insurgency over all of the countries. until we come up with a strategy for rolling back their political rev lougz and their ideology and that's what i did like about trump's speech, until we do that terrorism will keep going on. >> and we'll look forward to having more fact checking. >> if that is not bad enough; there is worries about the american nuclear weapons in turkey where isis controls territory. >> and some are asking if those nuclear bombs could fall in the wrong hands. the next guest said it is time to pull the nuclear weapons out of there. >> and a cement truck crushes a mini-van. and rescue crews trying to free the couple trapped beneath before it is too late. tired of re-dosing antacids? 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>> the u.s. nuclear weapon that are there because of a nato/nuclear sharing agreement in place since the 1950. this is in cold war terms. this is something we moved on significantly. and now, they are largely for political reasons and not military value and now there is a risk, there is a reconsidering of having them. >> the risk what is it? >> the risk, the base commander was escorted off of the property involved in the coup, they were looking at intense security environment close by and sort of like air base is 70 miles from syria's border and we are talking about real risks. but there are security measures in place. if there is no military reason to have them there and a risk involved, we have to reconsider having them. >> the experts say you need a code to activate them and special planes to transport them, and so in and of themselves they are not that dangerous to sit around the air base; what do you say? >> they are still nuclear weapons and in an insecure environment and you don't know if the folks involved in the coup and seeing happening in and around surlek would be safe with the nuclear weapons. a dirty bomb could spread radiation cross the entire country. >> and you map out the other areas where we have nuclear weapons most americans don't know about. where else do we have the same sort of weapons stored? >> we have u.s. b- 61s. they are a nuclear weapon andous them on the battlefield. we have those in country s across europe and belgium and germ no and italy and many countries, have these stationed in them. and they would be used and delivered by other nato members or the u.s. would in the case of turkey have to fly in and pick up the weapons to deliver them. many military leaders say it is unlikely including general cart wright. the military use of the weapon system is practically nil. we would use a larger nuclear weapon. >> i hope you don't mind me asking this. you are a now mom and i think as a mom myself. you think of foreign policy in a personal way, how nervous does this make you in general that we have these nuclear weapons and how much risk does it pose to the american families over all. namerican families and i am a new mom and certainly i think about that. i have a six month old who will grow up and have to worry about these things. particularly the b61 concern me because they are notes inially going to be used. we have seen in other bases in europe, activist have gotten close to the weapons in the past. they are a subject of controversy for sometime and the fact that they are so close to the syrian border and hostile hands that is a thorough concern. >> you are raising a red flag. we'll put it out there for the viewers to read it in full and understand it and it is a fascinating topic. and lacy, i appreciate having you on the program. >> thank you for having me. >> that is thought provoking. obama loses another support isser. one of the largest insurance companies is cutting back on the obama care plans. and the death toll rise nothing louisiana. thousands of people are seeking shelter and look at that scene. coming up why the disaster may not be over yet. >> what is left if anything. everything i had is gone. everything. everything. you can run an errand. 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[applause] and we had a great day, both she and i have roots in scranton and we saw a lot of people that we are related to and a lot of people who tell us that we are related to then. but it just reminded me of how lucky we are to be part of a country that has provided so much opportunity. it is not perfect. we know that. but there is no place that has provided more opportunity to my grandfather who came here as a imdprant and worked in a fact row and created a great life for his family and my dad who was a small businessman in chicago and worked hard. and i want that story to be true for every american family and that is -- [applause] that is the principle motivation that i have. >> hillary clinton speaking in pennsylvania. if you would like to watch her live go to fox news.com. the news today of another big insurer dropping out of the health care exchanges set up in several states. we'll have that after a quick break. at safelite, we know how busy life can be. these kids were headed to their first dance recital... ...when their windshield got cracked... ...but they couldn't miss the show. so dad went to the new safelite-dot-com. and in just a few clicks, he scheduled a replacement... ...before the girls even took the stage. safelite-dot-com is the fast, easy way to schedule service anywhere in america! so you don't have to miss a thing. y'all did wonderful! that's another safelite advantage. 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>> actually, yes, for a temporary amount of time. but that's why we had the exchanges and why going forward more expapgz on the exchanges especially if hillary clinton is elected. >> but ceo of obama care blamedet in saying the companies need to be competitive. and he said 11 million americans are covered. >> when you tell a company you have to be competitive and then force all of these people to join and the people say no, we are going to pay the fine. is lesly seriously suggesting whennetna gotangry. they said we'll get even by losing 2 or 300 million. they lost a third of a billion dollars. this is baked in. this is a numbers game, you talk to the folks and if all you cover is primary sick is people and the healthy people don't pay premiums. the thing that is called the law of large numbers doesn't work. >> that is one of the issues and we are out on of time. we'll see how it goes and see if aetna changes its mind. it does cover people. jenna. >> there are war planes in syria. president putin makes power plays. what does he have up his sleeve? 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New-yorkUnited-statesLouisianaTexasIranAfghanistanKievUkraine-general-UkrainePhiladelphiaPennsylvaniaWashington ♪ this is cnn breaking news. >> we're following breaking news in the presidential campaign. donald trump just finished a speech in michigan. not only is he stepping up his attacks on hillary clinton, trump is defending his late-night twitter rant against a former miss universe that hillary clinton first mentioned in monday's debate. in a series of tweets, trump called elisia machado disgusting, and urged people to "check out sex tape." no such tape apparently exists. campaigning in florida this afternoon, clinton told a crowd she thinks trump's twitter meltdown is "unhinged, even for him." new polls show clinton on sturdier ground than before this week's debate. we're waiting a new national poll. also breaking, standing by for police in el cajon, california, to release video of an officer involved shooting of an unarmed black man, that has set that community on edge. businesses and schools have closed, as everyone awaits the release of the video. our responds, analysts, and guests will have full coverage of the day's top stories. let's begin with jason carroll who is following trump's latest twitter storm. trump isn't backing down at all, jason, is he? >> reporter: not at all. in an interview this afternoon, trump said it was a very effective way of communicating, referring to twitter. one adviser saying what goes on, on twitter is not the campaign message, but when the messenger is the candidate, there is no denying his words matter. donald trump up early this morning, and not letting up on his attacks on former miss universe elisia machado. the gop nominee tweeting before dawn, wow, crooked hillary was duped and used by my worst miss u. hillary floated her as an angel without checking her past, which is terrible. trump adding, did crooked hillary help disgusting -- check out sex tape in past -- become a u.s. citizen to use her in the debate, yet offering no proof that such a tape exists. hillary clinton responding with a tweet of her own. what kind of man stays up all night to smear a woman with lies and conspiracy theorys? during a campaign stop in florida later in the day -- >> i mean, his latest twitter meltdown is unhinged, even for him. it proves yet again that he's temperamentally unfit to be president and commander in chief. >> reporter: during monday night's debate, clinton raised machado's accusation that trump called her miss piggy and miss housekeeping after she gained weight in 1996. >> her name is elisia machado, and she's become a u.s. citizen, and you can bet she's going to vote this november. >> okay, good. >> reporter: trump has kept the story alive by criticizing machado daily, even as he pushes back on reports some of his advisers were not happy with his debate performance, and are considering overhauling his approach before the second meeting with clinton. this, as trump continues to cite unscientific, online polls that are not true measures of public opinion. >> every single online poll said we won, which is great. every single online poll. >> reporter: and as for those accounts of debate discord, trump tweeting, remember, don't believe sources said by the very dishonest media if they don't name the sources, the sources don't exist. it should be noted, citing unnamed sources are a common practice in the world of journalism. trump also at odds with the "usa today" editorial board. the paper's board has never taken sides in a presidential race, but is urging voters to consider anyone but trump this year, writing, donald trump is, by unanimous consensus of the editorial board, unfit for the presidency. as some gop leaders encourage trump to stay focused, he's leaving open the possibility of bringing up bill clinton's past infidelities at the next debate. >> i was going to do it, and i saw chelsea sitting out in the audience, and i just didn't want to go there. i thought it would be too disrespectful. but she was very nasty. we'll see what happens. >> if it does come up in the next debate, do you think maybe your past marital history is also fair game? >> i guess. they can do it. but it's a lot different than his, that i can tell you. >> reporter: on another note, while there has been scrutiny on the clinton foundation, now trump's foundation is under scrutiny, after "the washington post" reports the organization never obtained the proper certification new york requires before a charity can solicit money from the public. "the post" says by not registering, the organization avoid an annual audit that protected trump from outside scrutiny. wolf? >> jason carroll, thank you very much. jason carroll reporting. we're getting our first look at donald trump on camera, admitting his business interests were aimed at name calling of mexican immigrants. what are you finding out? >> we went for this video deposition, and one thing that caught our ear is this first clip where trump talks about the root of his lawsuit, the chef who planned to open a restaurant in his new d.c. hotel, and he backed out of that, saying he was offended and unhappy about the comments that trump made about illegal mexican immigrants. trump says that the chef was just grandstanding and reacting the way he did. but interestingly enough, trump also admits that those comments did hurt his business. >> if they would have gotten out very quietly, it would have been a lot better for everybody. they caused me damages, because they made such a big deal out of it. and they didn't have to make a big deal out of it. so that was disappointing. but that's what i meant, they wanted to be -- they thought politically correct by doing what they did. i think they made a mistake. >> reporter: the more serious and somber tone coming from trump in that deposition. he later went on to say that those controversial statements in his announcement were planned ahead of time, that it was something he planned out. although he is admitting that there was some business backlash over that controversial comment, he says that politically, this was a good thing for him, because he now is the nominee. this is what he had to say. >> i obviously have credibility, because i now, as it turns out, became the republican nominee, running against a total of 17 people, mostly senators and governors, highly respected people. so it's not like, you know, like i've said anything that could be so bad, because if i said something that was so bad, they wouldn't have me go through all of these people and win all of these primary races. >> reporter: there has been a lengthy back and forth whether to release this video or not. the trump team saying it could damage him politically and come up in tv ads that his opponent might use. the judge rejected that argument, citing with the tv outlets to get the video released. >> thank you very much for that update. there's other news we're following. brand new polls taken off monday's presidential debate show hillary clinton getting a very definite boost. correspondent brianna keilar has the numbers for us. we're getting in the first national poll taken completely after the debate. what do these numbers show us? >> reporter: that's right. what it shows is that donald trump is about even where he was and hillary clinton has gotten a little bit of a boost following the debate. if you check out these numbers from this fox news poll of likely voters, they say 43% of them say they are now for hillary clinton. that is up two points from september 11, when we saw the last poll taken. donald trump at 40%, that's exactly where he was in september. garry johnson stays even, and jill stein bumps up a point. what you're seeing here is donald trump continuing to struggle to get above these low 40s, which is an area where he really needs to expand there, if he's going to have a shot, wolf and really speaks to this idea that many people, you'll remember our poll after the debate, 2-1 said hillary clinton won that debate. so you're seeing the positive effects for her on this. >> that's a national poll. we're also getting several key battle ground state polls, brianna, polls taken after the debate. what are they showing? >> that's right. these are the states that are really going to determine who ends up being in the white house. so we're looking at the florida poll, we see hillary clinton leading donald trump by four points. when we look at the michigan poll, she's got a very comfortable lead there, seven points. and when you go to new hampshire, another comfortable lead at seven points, as well. and then in nevada, she's up six points. that's a bit of a turn around where she was weeks ago. donald trump was actually leading her in some polls here. and it also speaks to i think how she's trying to build on this. she had bernie sanders in new hampshire with her this week. he's going to be in michigan sometime soon. elizabeth warren is going to be in nevada next week. so she's getting a bump out of the debate, of course. there are many other obstacles to go ahead still, the vice presidential debate, still two presidential debates and weeks to go before the election. >> brianna keilar reporting for us. thank you very much. in the last hour, we spoke with hillary clinton supporter lanny davis joining us now and congressman mike kelley, a donald trump supporter. thank you very much for coming in. so donald trump, he's got work to do in these key battleground state it is you look at these polls, the numbers we just showed. what does he need to do? >> i think he's done quite well. you look at cnn polls, in colorado and ohio, he's up. >> that was taken before the debate. these are new polls taken since the debate, 85 million people watched that debate. >> that's right, i understand that. i think the first debate, most people thought donald trump had a wonderful night. in pennsylvania, we're talking about blue color people who look at what's happened to them and their lives. their wages have been frozen. in some cases, we've shut down coal mines. that was an objective of the president. he succeeded that. and mrs. clinton said we're going to have to continue to shut down those coal mines. when you talk about polls, remember, a lot of likely voters have been polled, but not people who have changed over or engaged this year. colorado, ohio, he's ahead. in pennsylvania, he's even. >> remember, those are done before -- >> i understand that. >> in the four states we have since the debate in florida, clinton up four. in nevada, clinton up six. in michigan, clinton up seven. in new hampshire, clinton up seven. and in this fox news poll, a national poll, clinton up three in the fox poll that was just released. all of these polls taken since the debates. so forget about the earlier polls, because clearly the debate had an impact. >> i understand forget about stuff. people say what happened today? we're still almost 40 days away from the election. there's a lot of ground to be covered and things to be said yet. i've watched these before. the bumps go back and forth. >> you're a politician -- >> i'm an automobile dealer. >> you're a member of the united states congress. >> yes. >> so you're a republican from pennsylvania, pennsylvania obviously a key state. could you see yourself getting up at 3:00 in the morning and tweeting about a former miss universe and alleged sex tape, could you see yourself doing that to your followers and say go watch this sex tape? >> i see a guy who has boundless energy. in the private sector, when somebody attacks, you push back. that's not unusual for people in the private sector to be up at 3:00 a.m., especially when you're the ceo. you rarely sleep. mr. trump is a high octane guy. if he was a coach, i would want to play for him. if he was a guy running a business, i would want to work for him. that's what the country needs is a strong leader. >> he's a presidential nominee. he's the republican nominee. doesn't he have aides that can do that kind of stuff for him? >> sure. >> is that respectful for a presidential nominee? >> i think what's respectful is for people to understand so many americans feel that america is headed in the wrong direction. i watched secretary clinton for 30 years. the president, since he came into office, has doubled our national debt. those are the things -- you know what people back home look at -- >> i just want to be precise, you don't have a problem with donald trump tweeting at 3:00 a.m. about a sex tape? >> wolf, i don't concern myself with what mr. trump says at 3:00 a.m. in the morning. what i do concern myself is with what mr. trump can do to make america great again. >> here's the problem. some of his aides acknowledge that hillary clinton laid the bait monday night and he followed up. he would not -- five days later they're still talking about it. >> polished politicians say the same thing all the time. stick to your talking points, don't let them get you off track. mr. trump is reacting to a way a person in the private sector -- back home where i'm from, somebody shoves you, you shove back. we all learn every day from our experiences. being in the public life requires different skills, people saying not what's on their mind -- >> we's now reading speeches from a teleprompter, he's been doing that for a month or two right now. even though he ridiculed politicians that did that. his aides want him scripted, but he's donald trump. >> he is unique. >> sometimes he can't control himself. stand by. we've got more to discuss. much more with congressman mike kelley of pennsylvania, a key battleground state, when we return. you tell your insurance company they made a mistake. the check they sent isn't enough to replace your totaled new car. the guy says they didn't make the mistake. you made the mistake. i beg your pardon? 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i don't know whoever the campaign probably advises him what he should or shouldn't do. i have watched him. i've been with him. i've never seen anybody with his energy level. >> he's a different campaigner, a different politician now, very, very tightly controlled by his advisers. they want him to read a teleprompter, they're trying to control him. and from their standpoint, it seems to be working. >> well, listen, i think we all take advice in our life. i've been a car dealer since 1970 when i got out of school, i worked for my dad. but you've got to pay attention. things can change so quickly. you have to pivot and face those challenges. >> how is mike pence going to do against tim kaine? >> if anybody questioned donald trump's ability to pick people, his judgment, they don't know mike pence. i served with mike pence my first time in congress was on foreign affairs with mike. he's a guy that i would go to any time, because he's that type of a person. so donald trump's judgment, can we really trust this guy? he picked a guy who is one heart beat away from being in the white house. when you look at mike pence, he's a solid man. i would trust him with anything. my checkbook, my wife, and my business and know when i came back it would be solid. >> former congressman, governor of indiana. i'm looking forward to that debate. we'll see what happens. thank you very much for coming in. >> thanks for having me. just ahead, breaking news. we're standing by for new video of a police involved shooting of an unarmed black man in california. later, who is president obama yelling at to hurry up, hurry up? watch this. attention! did you or anyone in your household work around asbestos-containing gaskets, packing, or equipment? if you or a loved one have an asbestos-related disease, you may have a right to vote on a plan to reorganize and pay claims in the garlock/coltec bankruptcy. garlock's and coltec's products were used in industrial and maritime settings, including where steam, hot liquid or acid moved in pipes. votes must be filed by december 9, 2016 call 844-garlock or go to garlocknotice.com in our breaking news, donald trump is defending his predawn twitter storm, in a series of tweets, trump continued to feud with a former miss universe, calling her disgusting and urging people to check out sex tape. let's discuss this with our political experts. mark preston, he was being pretty disciplined, reading speeches from teleprompter, not doing full-scale news conferences, but he seemed to lose that control overnight. >> yeah. we thought that perhaps we saw a new donald trump, we certainly heard that from republicans, certainly on capitol hill because they were happy because they didn't have to keep making excuses for donald trump. however, he seems to have no discipline whatsoever, which is playing right into the clinton narrative, that he is incapable of having like the competence and the level of ability to not go out and stop himself. he just can't stop himself. republicans are very concerned. in fact, one of them said to me, what they're telling congressional candidates right now, shelter in place, shelter in place, and just talk about your own race. >> he hasn't listened to them as far as reading rally speeches from teleprompters. he used to ridicule politicians and ridiculed hillary clinton and some of the republican challengers from reading speeches from teleprompters. but he can't -- sometimes he can't control himself to go off message and do these things. >> hes have a very difficult time letting go those perceived slights. any time someone goes after him, he feels like he needs to go back after them. but the fact that he was reading from a teleprompter and giving those scripted speeches, that was a good moment in his campaign, polls were looking better for him, he was delivering a consistent message against hillary clinton. but when he goes off script, he starts making mistakes. we saw that during and after the debate, which is one reason he's not given a press conference for a very long time because he's worried about making a mistake. but he sometimes does it on twitter, too. >> as you know, hillary clinton started this latest battle over miss universe at the debate monday night and five days later we're still talking about it, because he feels he was slighted and some of the aides say you can bait him with a tweet, and he's going to react. how much of a problem is this? >> right. it seemed to validate that narrative. donald trump's worst moments as a general election candidate has come when he's forgotten or ignored that you should never get in a fight with anyone that isn't on the ballot. the spectacle of someone that is six weeks away engaging in a twitter war is extraordinary. he managed in one single set of tweets to give ammunition to all of the core democratic arguments against him, that he's volatile, vindictive, racist, and sexist. and it does just kind of reconfirm that the principled obstacle he faces, the biggest head wind that is keeping his polls into the low 40s, are the personal doubts about him, the doubts about his temperament, qualifications, experience and self-control. >> "the washington post" has been digging into trump's business deals and charitable foundation, as well. they have a new report saying in new york state, he didn't get the proper certification to solicit funds for his charitable foundation, and as a result, because he didn't have that proper certification, he didn't have to provide annual audits, if you will. how much of a problem is this? >> well, it's also a very big problem, and it would be maybe even bigger if we weren't talking about these other controversies that donald trump has created for himself. but this is extremely relevant to this campaign, not least because donald trump has tried to make an issue of the clinton foundation, and this weakened his argument against hillary clinton and the clinton foundation. he's trying to make the case she used it for her own self-purposes, and now donald trump is having to answer questions about why he was using his foundation for his own purposes and other people's money, not even his own money, for his foundation. this could become a bigger story soon, because the new york attorney general is now probing his foundation. they could take action against it, fines perhaps, maybe even shutting the foundation down perhaps, because it did not have this certification to solicit donations. but it's definitely relevant to this campaign. >> and i want to play something for you and all of our panelists, sound from the 2004 interview that donald trump did with don imus on his radio show discussing a teacher, female teacher, who was caught sleeping with a 14-year-old student. listen to this. >> how would you like to be the husband of the wife that was, you know, playing around with a 14-year-old kid? unbelievable. by the way, did you see what she looked like? >> not bad. >> not bad? yeah, i would say so. i know a lot of guys trying to date her right now, don. >> i don't know what your teachers looked like when you were in school. >> none of them looked like that, believe me. do you think this 14-year-old kid is scarred forever? he might have put the move on her. it might have given him confidence actually. >> that clip is going to generate some controversy, as you can imagine. >> that's right. it just plays into a much larger narrative about how donald trump talks about women, how he talks about sex. there is also a report that i was reading today about how he and his wife watched a sex tape together and his comments that he made about paris hilton's attractiveness when he met her when she was 12 years old. so none of this is helpful for him. it is not the message you want out less than 40 days from election day, or really at any point in a presidential election. >> mark, when you're running for president of the united states, a lot of things about your life is going to come out. >> we talk about the woman vote and how women will be angry about his misogynistic statements and actions. but something like that plays to fathers, it plays to anyone who has a daughter. anyone who is married. you hear that and you say, he could have been talking about my daughter. and i think that's been lost in this whole discussion about where it could hurt donald trump. i think that could hurt donald trump. >> yeah, he's made so many crude comments over the years, on radio shows, howard stern and the like. it hasn't hurt him yet in a significant way, but now it's continuing to feed into this narrative, as you said, rebecca, about how he talks about women in particular, especially in light of this l.a. times report that came out saying that he -- alleging that he fired employees that were not pretty enough and the elisia machado comment, talking about her weight. >> is it going to have an impact, ron? >> we have to remember only a week ago we were talking about whether there was a risk to hillary clinton at the debate, because the clinton campaign and priorities usa had put almost all of their chips on personally qualifying trump on raising questions about his temperament, experience and values, rather than the agenda. he had the same opportunity that reagan did in 1980 after president carter raised concerns. and reagan was reassuring in the debate, the doubts resolved and he rolled toward a landslide. what we have seen from donald trump at and after the debate is this cascade of remarks, activity, behavior, performance, that have deepened these debates -- these doubts. it is those personal assessments, although i disfree a little with the panel, the personal assessments hamper donald trump, 60% saying he's not qualified. that is without question the principal head wind that's keeping his numbers stuck in the low 40s. >> everyone, stick around. we have a lot more to assess. we're also standing by for some breaking news. police in california, they have just released video of that deadly shooting of an unarmed black man. the shooting has the community on edge right now. stand by. you tell your insurance company they made a mistake. the check they sent isn't enough to replace your totaled new car. the guy says they didn't make the mistake. you made the mistake. i beg your pardon? 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>> thank you very much, pamela brown reporting. there's breaking political news we're following. a just released national poll shows hillary clinton increasing her lead over donald trump. this is significant, because this new national poll was taken completely after monday's presidential debate. we're back with our political experts. let's go through some of the numbers. in this national poll, it's a fox news poll and by three points, 43-40, hillary clinton over trump. but take a look at these key battleground state polls. if you look at florida, for example, hillary clinton in florida right now, new poll since the debate, up four. take a look at michigan, new poll. hillary clinton up seven. in new hampshire, new poll. up seven. in nevada, up six. so she clearly got a significant bounce in these battleground states, which is where this election is going to be won or lost. >> right. and you kind of separate those out. you would put michigan and new hampshire in the inner core of states that are part of the easiest path to 270 for hillary clinton. you would also put colorado, wisconsin, pennsylvania as probably the other three that are remotely competitive that you would have to defend, as well as virginia, which is somewhat safer. if she holds all of those, she's there, regardless of what happens anywhere else. florida and nevada are icing on the cake. as we talked about it before, more important than the margin is the absolute number for donald trump. just in those polls that you flashed by, except for florida, he's at 40% or below in all of them, as well as some of the other polls that have been taken. the real challenge for donald trump is growing his support beyond the low 40s, while he's facing rejection from minority voters. the race gets closer when hillary clinton's problems are in the forefront and her number comes down. but it's been very rare for donald trump to get much above 42%. if he can't resolve the doubts that are keeping him there, in the end, it is very tough for him. >> that next presidential debate, the second presidential debate will clearly be significant, as well. by the way, we got some live pictures, hold on for a moment, air force one has just arrived back here in the united states. you see the president walking down with bill clinton and john kerry. they just came from jerusalem where they attended the funeral of the late israeli president and prime minister. they're walking down the stairs right now, back here in washington, d.c. you know, i want to point out, rebecca, that president obama and bill clinton, when they traveled to israel for the funeral of shimon peres, they had a light hearted moment as they were leaving tel aviv. they were leaving the tarmac, president obama was trying to hurry bill clinton along. watch this. >> clearly, the president wanted to leave. bill clinton has a hard time saying goodbye to folks on the tarmac. i was a white house correspondent for cnn during the clinton administration. he was always late for almost everything, because he just loved people that much, wanted to talk. >> clinton time is a little bit different than obama time, i suppose. i think that video went on for a little bit longer even than we were able to show, due to time constraints, because bill clinton was taking his time. >> and the president has to talk out of airs to and say, hey, bill, we're leaving, flying back to washington. >> maybe the only person who could hold up the leader of the free world, a former leader of the free world. >> flying back to washington. they've landed now back here at andrews. very quickly on this legislation that the president vetoed this 9/11 legislation, allows victim's families of 9/11 to sue saudi arabia. the president was badly humiliated, because both the senate and house rejected his veto, if you will. now there's some movement to reconsider. what are you hearing? >> there's definitely buyer's remorse from leaders, particularly mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, they expressed reservations, saying they're siding with the administration's concerns that this could have ramifications, particularly for americans overseas, opening them up to possible retaliatory lawsuits, say if the united states did a military action in the middle east, maybe one of those countries could sue. that's what is worrying the white house and worrying leadership and congress. one thing that right now we're seeing is a lot of finger pointing. mitch mcconnell saying it's the white house's fault for not communicating their concerns earlier, the white house pointing fingers back. but right now, there's overwhelming support for the law. >> if this was support for the president, why didn't he go public, make a statement, warn of the dangers of this? he was silent publicly, even though behind the scenes he is the top national security adviser. just the final point on. stay with cnn, for the debate between governor mike pence and senator tim kaine. our coverage of the debate begins 4:00 p.m. eastern tuesday right here on cnn. just ahead, new images from the besieged city of aleppo in syria, where civilians are trapped. syrian forces are poised to move in. what can the u.s. do about this humanitarian nightmare? 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>> thank you. rene marsh reporting. dramatic new video of the humanitarian disaster unfolding in syria. this month old baby just pulled from the rourvubble of a four s building that just had been air struck. estimated 3100 civilians have been killed since russian started air strikes a year ago. and now some 10,000 syrian-led ground troops are expected to begin a push into the city of aleppo. this horrific situation unfolding in aleppo. new information. this syrianen conflict is escalating. >> it is unimaginable that it is actually happening and we have some very powerfully video of an explosion. you can see the white smoke, and people running for cover. we don't know what this chemical actually is. but u.s. officials do believe it is some kind of chemical. a phosphorous, maybe a napalm. and this just shows the kind of incendiary weapons being used in aleppo right now. bunker buster bombs. people are trying to go underground but they can't because of the bunker buster bombs by russia and syrian regimes. they are out of food. the civilians in eastern aleppo are out of water we understand where the rebel-held areas are. and the syrians are attacking hospital frs. balances. it is such dire situation and only gets worse. >> and pressure on the bald field, putting an enormous amount of pressure on secretary kerry who's been trying to put some kind of cease fire with the russians. >> john kerry has been called the eternal optimist but even he is running out of hope. that the u.s. is going to walk away from talks. the cease fire they quotiented about two weeks ago is pretty much dead if they don't see action. and they don't have a plan b. and this is why secretary kerry really reluctant to pull the plug. a lot of discussion of some type of options they could do sanctions arming the allies. and just evidenced by conversation secretary kerry had with syrian rebels the other day. i fought to use force and i lost, wolf. >> and that month old baby image. you can imagine what else is going on there. horrific situation. thanks very much. that is it for me. thanks fvr watching. esht "outfront" starts right now.rin burnett "outfront" star right now. >> a new national poll out moments ago. did the debate hurt donald trump and are his attacks on a former miss universe taking a toll? and bill clinton opens up about his marriage and as trump threatens to bring up his political past. is it a coincide? and more. let's go o "outfront." good evening everyone i'm kate baldwin this for erin burnett. 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[ laughter ] against a former miss universe? >> but trump appears undaunted as his campaign released a strong attack ad against clinton today. >> why aren't i 50 points ahead? you might ask. >> maybe it's because the director of the fbi said you lied about your emails. >> there was classified material emails. >> or maybe it's because your policies have aloud isis and terrorism to spread or maybe it's because you call americans deplorable. >> you can put half of trump supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. >> why aren't i 50 points ahead? you might ask. >> do you really need to ask? >> i'm donald trump and i approve this message. >> meanwhile the commission on presidential debates admitted today that there was, in fact, a problem with trump's sound level inside the presidential debate hall. though it did not effect the actual tv broadcast. trump sounded off about it a short time ago in michigan. by the way, it was just announced by the commission that holds the debate that trump's microphone was defective as i have been saying. i mean, working that microphone was a hell of a lot more difficult than working crooked hillary clinton, that, i can tell you. i wonder why it was bad? think of that i wonder why it was bad? >> is this increasingly aggressive stance from trump what he needs to gain the you were hand against clinton? joining us now with reaction from philadelphia, richard good stein, an attorney and former hillary clinton advisor and from little rock, arkansas, sarah huckabee sanders, a senior advisor for the trump campaign. starlight with you. sarah, so the -- you know, everyone is talking about the 3:00 in the morning tweet that keeps this alicia machado story alive. tell us, dot the campaign say donald, put the twitter machine down when you go to sleep and if you get up in the middle of the night, don't pick it up? >> you know, one of the things that i just heard hillary clinton say, which i think is extremely telling is she just said what's he doing up at 3:00 a.m. well, we know hillary clinton doesn't get up at 3:00 a.m. and if the phone rings she certainly isn't there to answer it that's far more problematic to be president to not be there ready to take the charge, ready to lead. and actually be able to be awake at something like that. the biggest problem here is hillary clinton wants to make this a big issue. the problem with that is the most offensive thing that's been said on the campaign trail this year, and probably in modern politics is what hillary clinton said about millions of americans, including millions of american women, and that's that they are deplorable and irredeemable. that alone disqualifies her from being president, the utter contempt that she has for so many americans across this country. >> you know, richard, we played the trump ad hitting hillary clinton now when she very loudly wondered why she wasn't up by 50%. they go through the reasons why she wasn't up by 50%. the problem is we are spending most of the day talking about alicia that aiss a machado. >> a problem for who? >> the suggestion that somehow hillary is in the physically up to this. any of the 84 million people who watched that debate the other night saw one person in a red suit who was totally vibrant until the end and the other guy was leaning on that podium and kind of flagging from about 30 minutes onto the last 60. this, i mean, i hope the trump campaign predicates a strategy that somehow or the other hillary clinton doesn't have stamina. as she said he hasn't been to 112 countries. he hasn't stood up to. >> eric? >> i will let you get in here. let's point out a couple of things on the battle ground states. donald trump has visited 54 times the battleground states. hillary clinton 25 times. sarah, i want to ask you this though. a lot of people want to know. debate number two strategy. will donald trump come out a little bit more aggressive? will donald trump? and he hinted to this about this today. will he go ahead and talk about bill clinton's infidelities? >> you know, i think all things could be on the table. depending on the direction that hillary clinton goes. we now know she wants to get into the gutter so that she can distract from her own record. you know, one of the problems with what he just said, we are not worried about her stamina. we are worried about her credibility. this is a woman who has been in government for 30 years and has nothing but a failed record to show for it that's what we are worried about. that's why we don't want her to be president. that's why donald trump is doubling up on the number of stops that she is. it's not to show a discrepancy in stamina but to tell the story and to get that message out there in the contrast of if you want the status quo, you have got hillary clinton. if you want somebody to come in, shake up, and change washington, you have got donald trump who is the ultimate change agent in this race. >> so what about it, richard, do you think if donald trump does, in fact, go there and talk about bill clinton's infidelities, do you think it's fair tore him to do something like that? >> i think if he wants to, he should. you know, there are terms like clean hands, right? or people in glass houses. have you got him and his leading two surrogates giuliani and newt all of whom who have had three wives and won't talk about the circumstances how they got there look, the fact of the matter is, if donald trump wants to run against bill clinton for president in some alternative universe, great, he should do that. in this universe, is he living in a agreement world. >> richard. >> republican republicans have d the strategy, excuse me,. >> can play the victim but she also attacked some of the accusers of bill clinton who said -- she called monica lewenski as far as sits stick loony tune and were jennifer flowers a gold digger. that's someone who is blaming the victim, is it not? >> everything you just said happened as of the off year election to 1998 where newt then speaker of the house ran the campaign to reelect republicans on monica lewenski. guess what? for the first time in the history of the republic, the six year white house, one seat. the democrats won seat in that election and newt was no longer speaker as a result of that brilliant strategy. bring it on. i'm sure it will work well today. >> what will he do in debate two? will he change the strategy? he laid back. he wasn't very ayeive. i don't even think -- i may be mistaken. i don't even think he brought up the deplorables comment, did he? >> look, rimped, here's the problem. while the infidelity issue is problematic for the clintons. it's far from the strongest attack against hillary. have you got the pay to play scandal. have you got the email scandal. have you got putting our government and our national security at risk. and putting our government up to the highest bidder. there is a lot of content out there to come after hillary clinton. >> pay-to-play, you have heard of pam bondy, right? you talk about the trump foundation. >> yeah. >> what it did. that's textbook pay to play. it was illegal, too, to have him make that contribution out of his foundation and she shut down the foundation right after she got that contribution. that is textbook pay to play. >> the debate goes on about the debates coming up. we have to leave it right there. sarah, richard, thank you very much. billionaire provocateur mark cuban hits the no spin zone and talks presidential debates and athletes protesting the national anthem. we'll be right back with that. my business was built with passion... but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line. what's in your wallet? 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(vo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. highest profile supporters and loudest critics of donald trump. i spoke with him earlier today. >> so let's talk a little bit about yesterday when hillary clinton was on the campaign trail feeling very good about her debate performance and actually invoked the name of mark cuban as maybe being a little bit of help and support during the debate. listen at the debate the other night, one of my well known supporters mark cuban was there in the front row. and he really, i think, unsettled my opponent. >> so, what do you think, demarco, are you going to take credit for unsettling. >> i think she won the debate hands down. b, i'm not taking credit. i don't think i was the one unsettling him. but i certainly unsettled rudy giuliani when he saw me there, he was like what's he doing here? so, i got a big kick out of that i think what really unsettled him was, first, her ability to bait him. but, second, some of his answers, i don't know if you could hear it over the tv but he was getting laughed at by the crowd. i think that really upset him and that kind of made him really antsy, which turned in really combative. >> you know, mark, i was in the debate. i listened to it inside. at first it was a little bit unsettling, his microphone wasn't working. hers was. >> no, no, no, no, no. i'm not going to let you go there. >> i was there. i listened. >> i will not let you go there i was right there. i even talked to people who were there for the walk-through. during the walk through he complimented the audio guys. >> no, no, i'm telling you during the debate and i was there before it started, i was there probably 30 minutes before had to be seated at 8:30. when it started her microphone was louder than his. it wept out on tv equally loud. that was not an issue. i'm not crediting that with her success at the debate. i was pointing out there was actually an audible difference between the two inside at least. >> the whole trump family was right across the aisle from me. they were very observant of everything that was going on. i spent more time watching them than i did him. not a word from anybody before, during, or after. >> all right. so let's do. this you are a billionaire. donald is a billionaire. you started out calling him one of the best presidential candidates in the history of america. and now you are on her side. what happened? >> you know, very straightforward. i was excited to have somebody who was candid, who spoke what was on his mind i thought it would change the political process and a lot of respects he has. at some point and i said this to him directly via email. at some point you have to learn the issues. to me, you have to be -- in order to be a good president, because there is so much uncertainty that comes with the job, you have to be willing to dig in and learn. you have to be able to -- you know, not only understand your own policies but the policies of countries and leaders around the world. he made no effort to learn. and once he got past ted cruz. i told him specifically, donald, you have to learn the issues. you have to learn the policies. and that obviously was of no interest to him. >> you tweeted, i believe today, maybe yesterday or today, you tweeted that you thought donald trump would be -- if he doesn't win the election he would be broke in seven years. what do you mean? >> he has built his brand in properties particularly properties and hotels premium brand. plenty of studies that have said that trump was one of the top ten premium brands in the country. and i don't see that matching up with the demographics now that really are his following. i think, you know, he talks a lot about the elites and the insiders and the wealthy and how that's not his core following. and that's not who is voting for him. well, those are the people that really bought into his brand. and could afford to stay at a trump hotel who could afford a tee time at a trump golf course. that doesn't match up anymore. i think he is losing the people that were his customers coming in to the election. and gaining potential customers that don't really match up or can't afford his branding. >> and i think at one point you tweeted that the clinton brand was stronger than the trump bland. >> globally without question. >> okay. some of the things you associated clintons with, bill clinton, the infidelity, hillary clinton the mistrust. >> come on now, come on now. first of all, bill clinton is not running for office. second, if you want to talk infidelities, donald has him hands down and there is a lot of things people aren't even talking about and i won't go there. there is a global brand. bill clinton was the leader of the free world. he took a lot of steps. look, for all of the paparazzi oriented things we will talk about during the clinton presidency or now, those aren't the things that people around the world really pay attention to. bill clinton, through his foundation, has gone around the world and helped people that has helped build his brand. that has built awareness of who he is and created a very positive association. >> i will give that you. >> donald can't say that. >> i will give you that. in the news, collin kaepernick has decided he is going to create the protest against oppression, oppressive things going on in america. now, you are a team owner, dallas mavericks, if your dallas mavericks decided to take a knee during the national anthem? your thoughts on this? first of all let me do. this bill o'reilly talked about it last night in talking points memo. take a listen. >> the overriding nobility of america far outweighs individual bias and terrible mistakes on the part of a few police officers. colin kaepernick and others who despise their own country infantry do have a right to vent. by taking things out of context, by diminishing the proud history of this country, in freeing millions of people, all over the world, those anti-american displays insult us. >> your thoughts, do you agree with bill o'reilly. >> i agree with part of what he said. i don't think it's necessarily insulting. i will tell you what my dad told me and this is what guy by. my dad enlisted in the navy at 16. my uncle enlisted as well. one of the reasons he enlist sod early is because my grandparents came from a country where if you spoke out against leadership, there was a good chance you were going to die. that's why they left their homeland. and as i was growing up and there were things that were going on, he made it very clear to me that there were going to be times when you disagree with people. but in this great country of ours, they have the right to be heard. and there is going to come a time when if we don't support those we disagree with, if we speak out against power and we speak out against government, someone might not be there to protect us. and so what i told our players in our meeting on monday before i left for the debate. i said look, guys, i'm going to stand there with my hand hand on my heart and my family is going to stand there with their hands on their heart. whatever you decide to do do it upfront and do it as a team and i will support you. in this country just like my father and uncle taught me we have a first amendment and we will support it because if we don't support those we disagree with,ed when people in power come for me, and come for those that i love, there will be no one there to support us. >> all right. mark cuban. great friend, great american. just picking the wrong side this time around. [ laughter ] >> this election. >> thanks, eric. >> thanks for joining us. >> appreciate it, buddy. >> never boring talking with mark cuban. footnote. we spoke with mark before commission admitted there was problem inside the debate hall but not on the television broadcast of the debate. next on the rundown, a wave of new post debate polls just out and they may not have the news hillary clinton was hoping for. right back with that. narrator: it wasn't that long ago. years of devastating cutbacks to our schools. 30,000 teachers laid off. class sizes increased. art and music programs cut. we can't ever go back. ryan ruelas: so vote yes on proposition 55. reagan duncan: prop 55 prevents 4 billion in new cuts to our schools. letty muñoz-gonzalez: simply by maintaining the current tax rate on the wealthiest californians. ryan ruelas: no new education cuts, and no new taxes. reagan duncan: vote yes on 55. sarah morgan: to help our children thrive. in the campaign 2016 segment tonight, the state of the presidential race, there is a flood of new post debate polls out today. the new fox news poll of likely voters shows hillary clinton with a modest 3 point lead over donald trump. that's a 2 point gain for clinton since early september. libertarian gary johnson comes in 8%. green party nominee jill stein has 4%. and there are key swing state polls just out showing slight movement for hillary clinton. joining us to analyze caitlin huey burns political reporter for real clear politics. arnon michigan director of the fox news decision desk. we will talk to you very quickly. the fox news poll is a change from prior to this debate to after the debate. >> precisely. >> donald trump stayed the same at 40%, right? >> hillary clinton had a 1 point lead prior to the debate and now she has 3. >> exactly. >> she moved up two ticks and he stayed the same, any surprises in that. >> the big surprise in that is that frankly she has not closed the deal. clearly she had a great week this week. she did very well in the debate. 61% of voters in the fox news poll said she won the debate. and she has continued to talk about that for the rest of the week. even -- nonetheless, only two two thirds of those people who say she won the debate are voting for her. she has not closed the deal it suggests that actually there is still some room for opportunity for this election to change. >> caitlin, your thoughts on the fact that post debate and a lot of people think she did win the debate and as arnon points out it's not making voters flock to her. >> i think this does show the debate had impact on the polling. close race a couple of points is kind of a big deal, right? what she did do was she improved on the negative things that were hurting her. so, honest and trustworthiness, she is now on par with trump on that measure, which is significant. she gained points on temperament. he has not. when you are looking at the polling, and when you look at the aggregate. trump is scheduling to get out of low 40's. that's what we're seeing here. even though she had a modest increase he has had no movement at all. >> talk with us about the independence, i think he has a 12 point lead. >> he has 12 point lead in independents. to me the most interesting thing about the poll is not that there is a lead clinton has. she has this lead in all swing state polls that you talked about that came out today, nevada, colorado, and one other state. the key thing is to look at the people who are not voting for either hillary clinton or donald trump in the polls. if you look at nationally in the fox news poll, 17% of the country, are either voting for johnson or stein or undecided. those people are what i would call the movables. they are going to move in some way in the next four weeks and that's going to determine our next five weeks. >> they have to if they are going to vote they are going to have to. >> when you look at those people, and we have seen this across a number of polls, 90% of them say they want change. 80% of them say donald trump doesn't have the right trump temperament. and 70% of those undecides say hillary clinton. >> do you know what that sounds like? and this is what is going on with the millennials, caitlin, talk to you about this, 2008, 47% turenelsd out millennial vote. in 2012, 41% turned out. this election cycle sounds like the millennials are the movables they are not going to show up. >> this is the problem for clinton is that it's not that she is losing young people to trump. she is still leading trump among young people. she is something like 20 points behind where obama was in 2012 and in 2008. it's that enthusiasm measure. that's why you hear her and bernie sanders, elizabeth warren out on the campaign trail. michelle obama saying don't vote for a third party candidate. come to our side. that takes a lot of work. >> let me throw another one at you guys, start with you arnon. good friend of mine runs hispanic company. 30% of all new small businesses in america are run by hispanics all the new ones. 40 million hispanic run businesses in the country. if you are hispanic and starting a business, which candidate is your candidate going forward? >> according to the polling, the hispanics are likely to vote very heavily for clinton. >> but if you are a business owner, and you want to hire people, and you want a more friendly business environment, tax structures, who are you going to vote for. >> here is the thing, republicans have been trying to reach out to latino voters on that measure, talking about business, talking about the economy. the problem is that trump is not doing those things. is he not messaging to them on the economy. is he not really talking about the economy right now. we have seen over the past week is he talking about lots of other things, except for the issues at hand. so that's the problem here. that republicans feel like they have a message, but they can't -- they don't have a candidate who is giving that message. >> that's such an untapped asset to donald trump. is he the guy perceived as better on the economy. hispanics are very, very intune with what's going on in the economy. 27 million hispanics are going to vote this time. >> he has not reached out to the hispanic population. he has tried to reach out to the african-american population. there is some argument about is he doing that to reach out to african-americans or is he doing that to reach out to whites who are sceptic call about him. but he has not reached out to the mile-per-hours, one thing he has done very effectively is that he is the candidate of change. >> there you go. and those are the bernie sanders voters who are looking at maybe jill stein and johnson. maybe that's it. maybe they want -- i got to go guys, sorry. i ran out of time. thank you very much. bill o'reilly squares off with donald trump over his presidential debate performance and his game plan for victory in november. don't miss it. >> the vice presidential candidates take center stage, representing their running mates. proving themselves on the biggest stage in politics. governor mike pence. >> democrats are about to anoint someone who represents everything this country is tired of. >> senator tim kaine. >> the trump campaign just feels like trump's next big con. >> it's the contest that could sway america's votes. bret baier and megyn kelly anchor powerful coverage of the vice presidential debate on october 4th starting at 9:00 p.m. eastern on fox news channel. my insurance rates are probably gonna double. but dad, you've got... ...allstate. with accident forgiveness they guarantee your rates won't go up just because of an accident. smart kid. indeed. it's good to be in, good hands. ...as a combination of see products.. and customers. every on-time arrival is backed by thousands of od employees, ...who make sure the millions of products we ship arrive without damages. because od employees treat customer service... ...like our most important delivery. od. helping the world keep promises. in the personal story segment tonight, donald trump in the no spin zone zone. before speaking at rally earlier this week. trump faced on with bill o'reilly offer debate performance. lester holt and how he will deal with hillary clinton leading up to the next debate showdown. >> is there anything hillary clinton said in the debate that you will use, your campaign will use against her in the weeks ahead? >> i think there is. and i will tell you what really happened during the debate that was very interesting to me. i saw when she is talking and talking about what she's going to do and how she is going to do it and all of this, i realized she has been doing this for 26 to 30 years. and nothing ever gets done. even when she went to the united states senate, representing new york, she said she was going to bring jobs back to new york. and it was a disaster. upstate new york is a total disaster. but as she was talking about the various things. and i started to say wait a minute, hillary, have you been there for 26 years. and you vice president done it. why all of a sudden are you going to do it? you are not going to do it. get votes and after the votes see you later. four years or whatever. you were not real critical of hillary clinton at the time. >> i was if a businessman. i was all over the world. i was doing great. frankly, i got along with all politicians. it was my job to get along with politicians. i don't think about it now i think about it. i always got along with politicians. it was very important aspect of my business. >> okay. those who know manhattan know that's true. they are going to come after you, they being the clinton campaign, on the statement that you made that you were smart for paying as few taxes as you could possibly pay. you know that's going to be in the next debate. it's going to be on campaign ads. do you have any defense for that right now? >> no. i didn't say that what she said is maybe you paid no taxes i said well that would make me very smart. >> right. >> i have to till you something, tax is a big expense. i would mind paying taxes a lot less if our politicians knew thousand spend money but they don't. i saw the other day a report came out, $6 trillion. 6 trillion spent on the middle east. we have coo have rebuilt our country twice. >> now, the other avenue they are going to come after you is the women card all right? they are going to say that you are a mean guy and you don't respect women. do you have anything further to say on this miss universe thing? >> no, not much. i mean, look, i halderly know this person. this is a person 20 years ago. she did not do well. she had a lot of difficulties. and, you know, they wanted to fire her. the company itself wanted to fire her. i saved her job. look what i get out of it i get nothing. a lot of things are coming out about her. i really just don't know her. >> do you think that was a cheap shot by secretary clinton to bring that up? >> well, i think it was. and now a lot of things are coming out that i wasn't aware of like they say that she threatened the life of a judge and they got involved in all sorts of problems. if that turns out to be true, a lot of the things that are turning out to be, perhaps true, i think it's going to make hillary look extremely bad. >> do you believe that you have to do better among women, american women to win the election or do you believe you have enough support now? >> well, i think i'm doing well and i have been doing well with especially with married women. you saw the numbers. they went way up. hillary has spent over $200 million on ads against me. many of those ads are false. they are vicious and they are false. >> now, i'm asking you to grade lester holt, the debate moderator. a is best. f is worst. you say? >> c. you know, when i first did it, i thought i was fine. i wasn't thinking about it. but when i reviewed it and i saw all the commentary because a lot of people thought he was terrible. and i looked at all of the commentary, i realized he was much, much tougher on me than he was on hillary. it was like a day and night. and then he started, he hits me with the birther question, of course, and he likes to correct things that where i happen to be right, like we talked about stop and frisk and he was 100 percent wrong. but in the meantime i had go and prove the point it turns out that i was right. >> he interrupted you 41 times and interrupted hillary clinton seven times. >> i think he did. >> that's more than i interrupt you by the way. that's more than i do. >> he was worse than you and i agree. >> that's bad. charlotte, north carolina, the guy was shot dead, served six years in a texas penitentiary for shooting another guy. that was not reported. i have said that the protests are fine if you believe that the police are not fair to african-americans, you should protest. however, individual cases we should all wait until all the data comes. in all the facts are in. you agree with that correct? >> yeah. i do. i always agree on waiting and trying to get the information before you make a judgment. >> why did you not -- then why did you not say to hillary clinton, hey, you jump the gun by saying that we have -- this is deplorable, this is terrible. we have to solve this police problem. why didn't you go are a her on that. >> because i had many other things that i did go after her. a lot of people, you know, the whole evening was an interesting evening. a lot of people liked what i said about her. and, frankly, it was pretty tough what i said. you can't hit every single point. >> no, but you are the law and order candidate. >> it's called answer in 30 seconds. i thought her answer, having to do with the police, was very, very disrespectful to the police. she was petrified to talk about them in a positive way. and i thought, frankly, that was a disgrace. >> i thought you were going to bring that out. >> i thought it was very disrespectful answer to the police. there is no question about it. but i -- you know, you can only say so much in 22 seconds. >> i got it, but i was surprised because the law and order thing got into the stop and frisk and i thought the cops were going to come up. you got two more shots and she has two more shots at you. and we always appreciate you coming on. thank you very much. >> in the wake of this week's first presidential debate, the stakes just got higher for the next two. not to mention the vice presidential debate just three days away. ed henry joins us with a special preview right after this. i'm claudine and i quit smoking with chantix. by the time i was 30, i said "that's it, i'm a smoker for life." i wanted to be a non-smoker and i did it thanks to chantix. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse or of seizures. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you have these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have heart or blood vessel problems, . . most common side effect is nausea. this is for real. i'm a non-smoker. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. 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two kind of low key guys? >> more policy-based i think there will be less of the personal attacks. out on the road you hear a lot of people on n. both parties saying if you flip these tickets, it would be a lot less of a circus and lot more serious talk about policy. both of these people, i think mike pence and tim kaine, both of them show that donald trump and hillary clinton pretty good judgment in terms of picking people. in both cases they have helped the base a little bit. but, also, they have been out there and been good surrogates. but they haven't been what you normally see from vp which is the attack dog. the red meat. do you know why in the top of the ticket is doing all of that. they are attacking the heck out of each other. they don't need the number two to do it. how could it be any tougher, any nastier than. >> we're so used to the attacks. if we set down for a policy debate with the vps, we might all fall asleep. >> so you don't. >> surprise. i think expectations are so low for the vp debate that maybe something interesting will happen. but the truth of the matter is, everybody in both parties senior officials tell me they are waiting for the second presidential debate. that's the main event. >> is there going to be any changes? i assume hillary clinton wants to do the same thing because she feels like she did a good job. >> i was talking to people very close to donald trump today say look, where they think they scored very well is obviously the first 20, 30 minutes on the message of you have been at it for 30 years. you are all talk, no action. hillary clinton, now when back and look at the tape had no real answer to that it's a mystery as to why donald trump moved off of that number one. number two, i heard from one person inside donald trump's camp that a line of attack they were planning to use but didn't use for whatever reason. >> why not? >> maybe he forgot. maybe there was a lot happening. people close to trump say that lester holt kept driving it in to tax returns and other issues. so he couldn't go to this other issue i'm going to tell you about that he really wanted to do which was how hillary clinton made all this money in public service. >> remember the big thing when hillary clinton brought up alicia machado, lester holt asked him a different question. donald trump you called her, commented about her looks. she didn't look presidential. he commented and then she took it and she. >> twist it and that's where donald trump has to learn something between the first and second debates. you put your finger right on it. which is that all of this talk about lester holt is a distraction. if he asks you a b. your tax returns, you can pivot to anything i want. what i hear inside the trump camp is some line of attack he wanted to use but did not is how did she leave the white house saying we're flat broke then make tens of millions of dollars? speeches, books, the foundation, all of this stuff, and meanwhile the clintons are attacking donald trump for making money as a businessman, when they both have been in public service making tons of cash. that was a library of attack, left not on the table but under the table somewhere. donald trump has to bring that. >> debate 101, answer the question you are asked in one sentence and 90 seconds on what you want to talk. >> much more effective at that donald trump is a businessman who has been through all kinds of pit falls, bankruptcies and always come back. people have counted him out. let's not forget in 2012 who won the first debate mitt romney and got his clock cleaned later. first debate night not matter. >> bill clinton, don't do it. not turning for him does he do that? >> if he makes this even nastier then it becomes boomer rang on donald trump. it's a race about him. only wins this race when he talk to people in both parties. donald trump wins this race if it's about hillary clinton. if it's about him. is he more likely to lose. meaning, look at her record, syria, bengals, all the foreign policy problems and challenges. and the fact that, again, on the domestic front, and overall leadership, when asked, what you have done for 30 years beyond give speeches, she had no good answer. >> three days we have a vp debate. 10 days we have a presidential debate. 10 days after that another presidential debate. boom, boom, boom. this thing in the next 23 days, that's where the sweet spot is. >> get the seat belt ready. >> thank you very much, ed. up ahead, geraldo rivera opines on the mainstream media hysteria over donald trump this week. my blood pressure might reach dangerously high levels. don't go away. attorneys can help you every step of the way. with an estate plan including wills or a living trust that grows along with you and your family. legalzoom. legal help is here. in the back of the book segment tonight, the reason i took a triple dose of blood pressure med sign today is geraldo rivera. let's talk about the usa today. they have never done it today but today they decided to say we're not going to introduce -- >> well it's not just the usa today. but dallas morning news, san diego union tribune, cincinnati inquirer. i think sometimes you live in a bubble and don't realize how much of the republican establishment has rejected donald trump. and it seems to be growing. every time he does one of these outrageous stunts, like the miss universe in the last debate he loses more of the establishment, i believe. you know one of the things, new york republicans -- >> what do you mean? >> george h.w. bush. >> he never had him him 15 months now. >> something is motivating the editorial boards to take a position -- >> they're nonsubscribers. >> you lose a couple here and there. look at the chicago tribune. tribune is the solid rock of the republican establishment. they endorsed garry johnson who can't name one foreign leader. >> the day after he couldn't name one foreign leader. who owns the tribune? anyway, the point is the day after he can't name one single foreign leader that he looks up to, ten, 20 days later he says what is aleppo. >> and endorse gary johnson. >> detroit news also, the same thing. >> why? >> because donald trump is giving a lot of people the vibe that he is unsuitable to have the nuclear codes. you can't start tweeting at 3:00 in the morning -- >> so don't endorse anybody. but gary johnson, you really want that guy with if nuclear codes? >> i wouldn't gary johnson to be the mayor of hoboken. it is what it is. donald trump is not attracting people who traditionally wou would -- >> they're not legitimately endorsing anybody. >> you can suggest that editorials don't mean anything bf au after a while they start to mean something. >> let's talk about howard deen who, for whfr reason, decided to tweet that post debate he alluded that donald trump may have had a coke problem. >> everybody noticed donald trump sniffing. i think howard dean is the only one that went to that unsubstantiated wild and hurtful rumor. today i heard you with mark cuban. you were right there there were audio problems. the debate commission admitted that there was something wrong with his mike phone. i think they had it jacked up too high and that's why you could hear him breathe in a way that was unnatural. but for how ward dean to say that -- >> awe doubling down on msnbc. today he apologized for innuendo. was it innuendo when he accused donald trump of having a coke habit? >> i think it's immature, he should be ashamed of himself. >> let's get to alicia machado. >> she set him up. hillary clinton absolutely set him up. he could have handled that with ease. he could have said to her, you want to talk about miss universe from 20 years ago, lock at the middle east, there are 300,000 dead syrians, libya, you got rid of gaddafi and now it's a mess. you want to talk about miss universe? i submit to you that's what's wrong with your candidacy and your party. but what he did do, he went to sleep with a chip on his shoulder, got up and started tweeting. >> remember when mitt romney was fact chekted, he didn't have it in his back pocket saying no, you're wrong, i'm right on this issue. why didn't he have it there. why didn't he go back and say this is not what the question was. >> because he was unprepared. he was unprepared. you can't wing it. sometimes you just can't wing it. even you come on the show, i'm here to talk to you three, four minutes. you read, you do background, check things out, put things in perspective. you don't just wing it on basic knowledge. he thinks because he's charismatic -- and i love the guy. i've known him forever and i'm so proud of the way he advanced through the republican primary process. but you can't -- >> if you're donald trump do you change? >> you have to. today he was many michigan and he read a teleprompter speech, thank god. he should do just that. you sit with experts, sit with someone who plays the role of hillary clinton. how could he not be prepared for birtherism. >> i have to go. maybe he's got to come out with a west coast offense. >> i think he played wing it. >> bill will be back on monday. i want to congratulate bill. his book "killing the rising sun" is number one on every single best selling list in the world. has lrnd 1.3 million copies in front. after picking up his book, check out my book "wake up america." but when we come back, jesse watters at the presidential debate. a sneak peek at the watters world that you won't want to miss. minutes away. and when they save, you save. that's auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance, an allstate company. click or call. esurance does insurance a smarter way, which saves money. like bundling home and auto coverage, which reduces red tape, which saves money. and when they save, you save. that's home and auto insurance for the modern world. esurance, an allstate company. click or call. a farmer's market.ve what's in this kiester. a fire truck. even a marching band. and if i can get comfortable talking about this kiester, then you can get comfortable using preparation h. for any sort of discomfort in yours. preparation h. get comfortable with it. before we go tonight, i cleared my saturday evening schedule for one reason, an all new episode of watters world. watters didn't miss is golden opportunity to go to monday's presidential debate. >> why did hillary go so negative right from the jump. >> she didn't go negative. >> this isn't an election. it's a contrast. >> elections are a contrast, okay? >> well this episode airs saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on fnc. don't miss it. there's a brand-new podcast up today features new information on the warrior scandal. check it out. it's a very good one. that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching the special edition of "the o'riley factor." i'm in for bill o'reilly who will be back on monday with powerful analysis of where trump stands with his matchup with hillary clinton. please remember, the spin stops right here because we're looking out for you. breaking tonight, we have new numbers from the first major polls since the presidential debate and they give us significant insight of how the showdown of hofstra is affecting this race. well come to "the kelly file" everybody. i'm megyn kelly. that was taken after the debate by hillary clinton and donald trump. we'll get to it in a moment with chris stirewalt and howie kurtz. with 39 day to go before the collection, charles crout hammer offers his advice to the candidates. over the past 24 hours we've witnessed a remarkable series of attacks from the two candidate
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[ laughter ] against a former miss universe? >> but trump appears undaunted as his campaign released a strong attack ad against clinton today. >> why aren't i 50 points ahead? you might ask. >> maybe it's because the director of the fbi said you lied about your emails. >> there was classified material emails. >> or maybe it's because your policies have aloud isis and terrorism to spread or maybe it's because you call americans deplorable. >> you can put half of trump supporters into what i call the basket of deplorables. >> why aren't i 50 points ahead? you might ask. >> do you really need to ask? >> i'm donald trump and i approve this message. >> meanwhile the commission on presidential debates admitted today that there was, in fact, a problem with trump's sound level inside the presidential debate hall. though it did not effect the actual tv broadcast. trump sounded off about it a short time ago in michigan. by the way, it was just announced by the commission that holds the debate that trump's microphone was defective as i have been saying. i mean, working that microphone was a hell of a lot more difficult than working crooked hillary clinton, that, i can tell you. i wonder why it was bad? think of that i wonder why it was bad? >> is this increasingly aggressive stance from trump what he needs to gain the you were hand against clinton? joining us now with reaction from philadelphia, richard good stein, an attorney and former hillary clinton advisor and from little rock, arkansas, sarah huckabee sanders, a senior advisor for the trump campaign. starlight with you. sarah, so the -- you know, everyone is talking about the 3:00 in the morning tweet that keeps this alicia machado story alive. tell us, dot the campaign say donald, put the twitter machine down when you go to sleep and if you get up in the middle of the night, don't pick it up? >> you know, one of the things that i just heard hillary clinton say, which i think is extremely telling is she just said what's he doing up at 3:00 a.m. well, we know hillary clinton doesn't get up at 3:00 a.m. and if the phone rings she certainly isn't there to answer it that's far more problematic to be president to not be there ready to take the charge, ready to lead. and actually be able to be awake at something like that. the biggest problem here is hillary clinton wants to make this a big issue. the problem with that is the most offensive thing that's been said on the campaign trail this year, and probably in modern politics is what hillary clinton said about millions of americans, including millions of american women, and that's that they are deplorable and irredeemable. that alone disqualifies her from being president, the utter contempt that she has for so many americans across this country. >> you know, richard, we played the trump ad hitting hillary clinton now when she very loudly wondered why she wasn't up by 50%. they go through the reasons why she wasn't up by 50%. the problem is we are spending most of the day talking about alicia that aiss a machado. >> a problem for who? >> the suggestion that somehow hillary is in the physically up to this. any of the 84 million people who watched that debate the other night saw one person in a red suit who was totally vibrant until the end and the other guy was leaning on that podium and kind of flagging from about 30 minutes onto the last 60. this, i mean, i hope the trump campaign predicates a strategy that somehow or the other hillary clinton doesn't have stamina. as she said he hasn't been to 112 countries. he hasn't stood up to. >> eric? >> i will let you get in here. let's point out a couple of things on the battle ground states. donald trump has visited 54 times the battleground states. hillary clinton 25 times. sarah, i want to ask you this though. a lot of people want to know. debate number two strategy. will donald trump come out a little bit more aggressive? will donald trump? and he hinted to this about this today. will he go ahead and talk about bill clinton's infidelities? >> you know, i think all things could be on the table. depending on the direction that hillary clinton goes. we now know she wants to get into the gutter so that she can distract from her own record. you know, one of the problems with what he just said, we are not worried about her stamina. we are worried about her credibility. this is a woman who has been in government for 30 years and has nothing but a failed record to show for it that's what we are worried about. that's why we don't want her to be president. that's why donald trump is doubling up on the number of stops that she is. it's not to show a discrepancy in stamina but to tell the story and to get that message out there in the contrast of if you want the status quo, you have got hillary clinton. if you want somebody to come in, shake up, and change washington, you have got donald trump who is the ultimate change agent in this race. >> so what about it, richard, do you think if donald trump does, in fact, go there and talk about bill clinton's infidelities, do you think it's fair tore him to do something like that? >> i think if he wants to, he should. you know, there are terms like clean hands, right? or people in glass houses. have you got him and his leading two surrogates giuliani and newt all of whom who have had three wives and won't talk about the circumstances how they got there look, the fact of the matter is, if donald trump wants to run against bill clinton for president in some alternative universe, great, he should do that. in this universe, is he living in a agreement world. >> richard. >> republican republicans have d the strategy, excuse me,. >> can play the victim but she also attacked some of the accusers of bill clinton who said -- she called monica lewenski as far as sits stick loony tune and were jennifer flowers a gold digger. that's someone who is blaming the victim, is it not? >> everything you just said happened as of the off year election to 1998 where newt then speaker of the house ran the campaign to reelect republicans on monica lewenski. guess what? for the first time in the history of the republic, the six year white house, one seat. the democrats won seat in that election and newt was no longer speaker as a result of that brilliant strategy. bring it on. i'm sure it will work well today. >> what will he do in debate two? will he change the strategy? he laid back. he wasn't very ayeive. i don't even think -- i may be mistaken. i don't even think he brought up the deplorables comment, did he? >> look, rimped, here's the problem. while the infidelity issue is problematic for the clintons. it's far from the strongest attack against hillary. have you got the pay to play scandal. have you got the email scandal. have you got putting our government and our national security at risk. and putting our government up to the highest bidder. there is a lot of content out there to come after hillary clinton. >> pay-to-play, you have heard of pam bondy, right? you talk about the trump foundation. >> yeah. >> what it did. that's textbook pay to play. it was illegal, too, to have him make that contribution out of his foundation and she shut down the foundation right after she got that contribution. that is textbook pay to play. >> the debate goes on about the debates coming up. we have to leave it right there. sarah, richard, thank you very much. billionaire provocateur mark cuban hits the no spin zone and talks presidential debates and athletes protesting the national anthem. we'll be right back with that. my business was built with passion... but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line. what's in your wallet? [ distorted voice ] progressive their competitors' rates alongside their direct rate to save you money. but what's really going on? when played backwards at 1/8th speed you can clearly hear... what could that mean? woman: tom? tom! they're just commercials. or are they? you're waking the neighbors. well, mom, maybe the neighbors need to be woke. i think it's actually "awoken." no, that doesn't even seem right. no, it's "awoken." revealing the truth to help you save. highest profile supporters and loudest critics of donald trump. i spoke with him earlier today. >> so let's talk a little bit about yesterday when hillary clinton was on the campaign trail feeling very good about her debate performance and actually invoked the name of mark cuban as maybe being a little bit of help and support during the debate. listen at the debate the other night, one of my well known supporters mark cuban was there in the front row. and he really, i think, unsettled my opponent. >> so, what do you think, demarco, are you going to take credit for unsettling. >> i think she won the debate hands down. b, i'm not taking credit. i don't think i was the one unsettling him. but i certainly unsettled rudy giuliani when he saw me there, he was like what's he doing here? so, i got a big kick out of that i think what really unsettled him was, first, her ability to bait him. but, second, some of his answers, i don't know if you could hear it over the tv but he was getting laughed at by the crowd. i think that really upset him and that kind of made him really antsy, which turned in really combative. >> you know, mark, i was in the debate. i listened to it inside. at first it was a little bit unsettling, his microphone wasn't working. hers was. >> no, no, no, no, no. i'm not going to let you go there. >> i was there. i listened. >> i will not let you go there i was right there. i even talked to people who were there for the walk-through. during the walk through he complimented the audio guys. >> no, no, i'm telling you during the debate and i was there before it started, i was there probably 30 minutes before had to be seated at 8:30. when it started her microphone was louder than his. it wept out on tv equally loud. that was not an issue. i'm not crediting that with her success at the debate. i was pointing out there was actually an audible difference between the two inside at least. >> the whole trump family was right across the aisle from me. they were very observant of everything that was going on. i spent more time watching them than i did him. not a word from anybody before, during, or after. >> all right. so let's do. this you are a billionaire. donald is a billionaire. you started out calling him one of the best presidential candidates in the history of america. and now you are on her side. what happened? >> you know, very straightforward. i was excited to have somebody who was candid, who spoke what was on his mind i thought it would change the political process and a lot of respects he has. at some point and i said this to him directly via email. at some point you have to learn the issues. to me, you have to be -- in order to be a good president, because there is so much uncertain comes with the job, you have to be willing to dig in and learn. you have to be able to -- you know, not only understand your own policies but the policies of countries and leaders around the world. he made no effort to learn. and once he got past ted cruz. i told him specifically, donald, you have to learn the issues. you have to learn the policies. and that obviously was of no interest to him. >> you tweeted, i believe today, maybe yesterday or today, you tweeted that you thought donald trump would be -- if he doesn't win the election he would be broke in seven years. what do you mean? >> he has built his brand in properties particularly properties and hotels premium brand. plenty of studies that have said that trump was one of the top ten premium brands in the country. and i don't see that matching up with the demographics now that really are his following. i think, you know, he talks a lot about the elites and the insiders and the wealthy and how that's not his core following. and that's not who is voting for him. well, those are the people that really bought into his brand. and could afford to stay at a trump hotel who could afford a tee time at a trump golf course. that doesn't match up anymore. i think he is losing the people that were his customers coming in to the election. and gaining potential customers that don't really match up or can't afford his branding. >> and i think at one point you tweeted that the clinton brand was stronger than the trump bland. >> globally without question. >> okay. some of the things you associated clintons with, bill clinton, the infidelity, hillary clinton the mistrust. >> come on now, come on now. first of all, bill clinton is not running for office. second, if you want to talk infidelities, donald has him hands down and there is a lot of things people aren't even talking about and i won't go there. there is a global brand. bill clinton was the leader of the free world. he took a lot of steps. look, for all of the paparazzi oriented things we will talk about during the clinton presidency or now, those aren't the things that people around the world really pay attention to. bill clinton, through his foundation, has gone around the world and helped people that has helped build his brand. that has built awareness of who he is and created a very positive association. >> i will give that you. >> donald can't say that. >> i will give you that. in the news, collin kaepernick has decided he is going to create the protest against oppression, oppressive things going on in america. now, you are a team owner, dallas mavericks, if your dallas mavericks decided to take a knee during the national anthem? your thoughts on this? first of all let me do. this bill o'reilly talked about it last night in talking points memo. take a listen. >> the overriding nobility of america far outweighs individual bias and terrible mistakes on the part of a few police officers. colin kaepernick and others who despise their own country infantry do have a right to vent. by taking things out of context, by diminishing the proud history of this country, in freeing millions of people, all over the world, those anti-american displays insult us. >> your thoughts, do you agree with bill o'reilly. >> i agree with part of what he said. i don't think it's necessarily insulting. i will tell you what my dad told me and this is what guy by. my dad enlisted in the navy at 16. my uncle enlisted as well. one of the reasons he enlist sod early is because my grandparents came from a country where if you spoke out against leadership, there was a good chance you were going to die. that's why they left their homeland. and as i was growing up and there were things that were going on, he made it very clear to me that there were going to be times when you disagree with people. but in this great country of ours, they have the right to be heard. and there is going to come a time when if we don't support those we disagree with, if we speak out against power and we speak out against government, someone might not be there to protect us. and so what i told our players in our meeting on monday before i left for the debate. i said look, guys, i'm going to stand there with my hand hand on my heart and my family is going to stand there with their hands on their heart. whatever you decide to do do it upfront and do it as a team and i will support you. in this country just like my father and uncle taught me we have a first amendment and we will support it because if we don't support those we disagree with,ed when people in power come for me, and come for those that i love, there will be no one there to support us. >> all right. mark cuban. great friend, great american. just picking the wrong side this time around. [ laughter ] >> this election. >> thanks, eric. >> thanks for joining us. >> appreciate it, buddy. >> never boring talking with mark cuban. footnote. we spoke with mark before commission admitted there was problem inside the debate hall but not on the television broadcast of the debate. next on the rundown, a wave of new post debate polls just out and they may not have the news hillary clinton was hoping for. right back with that. cure cancer million? far off. liver disease treatment. that by voting yes on prop 61 - costs. dollars pass. don't let that happen. it - in the campaign 2016 segment tonight, the state of the presidential race, there is a flood of new post debate polls out today. the new fox news poll of likely voters shows hillary clinton with a modest 3 point lead over donald trump. that's a 2 point gain for clinton since early september. libertarian gary johnson comes in 8%. green party nominee jill stein has 4%. and there are key swing state polls just out showing slight movement for hillary clinton. joining us to analyze caitlin huey burns political reporter for real clear politics. arnon michigan director of the fox news decision desk. we will talk to you very quickly. the fox news poll is a change from prior to this debate to after the debate. >> precisely. >> donald trump stayed the same at 40%, right? >> hillary clinton had a 1 point lead prior to the debate and now she has 3. >> exactly. >> she moved up two ticks and he stayed the same, any surprises in that. >> the big surprise in that is that frankly she has not closed the deal. clearly she had a great week this week. she did very well in the debate. 61% of voters in the fox news poll said she won the debate. and she has continued to talk about that for the rest of the week. even -- nonetheless, only two two thirds of those people who say she won the debate are voting for her. she has not closed the deal it suggests that actually there is still some room for opportunity for this election to change. >> caitlin, your thoughts on the fact that post debate and a lot of people think she did win the debate and as arnon points out it's not making voters flock to her. >> i think this does show the debate had impact on the polling. close race a couple of points is kind of a big deal, right? what she did do was she improved on the negative things that were hurting her. so, honest and trustworthiness, she is now on par with trump on that measure, which is significant. she gained points on temperament. he has not. when you are looking at the polling, and when you look at the aggregate. trump is scheduling to get out of low 40's. that's what we're seeing here. even though she had a modest increase he has had no movement at all. >> talk with us about the independence, i think he has a 12 point lead. >> he has 12 point lead in independents. to me the most interesting thing about the poll is not that there is a lead clinton has. she has this lead in all swing state polls that you talked about that came out today, nevada, colorado, and one other state. the key thing is to look at the people who are not voting for either hillary clinton or donald trump in the polls. if you look at nationally in the fox news poll, 17% of the country, are either voting for johnson or stein or undecided. those people are what i would call the movables. they are going to move in some way in the next four weeks and that's going to determine our next five weeks. >> they have to if they are going to vote they are going to have to. >> when you look at those people, and we have seen this across a number of polls, 90% of them say they want change. 80% of them say donald trump doesn't have the right trump temperament. and 70% of those undecides say hillary clinton. >> do you know what that sounds like? and this is what is going on with the millennials, caitlin, talk to you about this, 2008, 47% turenelsd out millennial vote. in 2012, 41% turned out. this election cycle sounds like the millennials are the movables they are not going to show up. >> this is the problem for clinton is that it's not that she is losing young people to trump. she is still leading trump among young people. she is something like 20 points behind where obama was in 2012 and in 2008. it's that enthusiasm measure. that's why you hear her and bernie sanders, elizabeth warren out on the campaign trail. michelle obama saying don't vote for a third party candidate. come to our side. that takes a lot of work. >> let me throw another one at you guys, start with you arnon. good friend of mine runs hispanic company. 30% of all new small businesses in america are run by hispanics all the new ones. 40 million hispanic run businesses in the country. if you are hispanic and starting a business, which candidate is your candidate going forward? >> according to the polling, the hispanics are likely to vote very heavily for clinton. >> but if you are a business owner, and you want to hire people, and you want a more friendly business environment, tax structures, who are you going to vote for. >> here is the thing, republicans have been trying to reach out to latino voters on that measure, talking about business, talking about the economy. the problem is that trump is not doing those things. is he not messaging to them on the economy. is he not really talking about the economy right now. we have seen over the past week is he talking about lots of other things, except for the issues at hand. so that's the problem here. that republicans feel like they have a message, but they can't -- they don't have a candidate who is giving that message. >> that's such an untapped asset to donald trump. is he the guy perceived as better on the economy. hispanics are very, very intune with what's going on in the economy. 27 million hispanics are going to vote this time. >> he has not reached out to the hispanic population. he has tried to reach out to the african-american population. there is some argument about is he doing that to reach out to african-americans or is he doing that to reach out to whites who are sceptic call about him. but he has not reached out to the mile-per-hours, one thing he has done very effectively is that he is the candidate of change. >> there you go. and those are the bernie sanders voters who are looking at maybe jill stein and johnson. maybe that's it. maybe they want -- i got to go guys, sorry. i ran out of time. thank you very much. bill o'reilly squares off with donald trump over his presidential debate performance and his game plan for victory in november. don't miss it. >> the vice presidential candidates take center stage, representing their running mates. proving themselves on the biggest stage in politics. governor mike pence. >> democrats are about to anoint someone who represents everything this country is tired of. >> senator tim kaine. >> the trump campaign just feels like trump's next big con. >> it's the contest that could sway america's votes. bret baier and megyn kelly anchor powerful coverage of the vice presidential debate on october 4th starting at 9:00 p.m (climbing sounds) when kevin jorgeson needs light, he trusts duracell quantum because it lasts longer. ♪ (duracell slamtones) like their photo claims tool. it helps settle your claim quickly, which saves time, which saves money. and when they save, you save. that's auto and home insurance for the modern world. esurance, an allstate company. click or call. esurance does insurance a smarter way, which saves money. like bundling home and auto coverage, which reduces red tape, which saves money. and when they save, you save. that's home and auto insurance for the modern world. esurance, an allstate company. click or call. 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(the lion sleeps tonight.) woman snoring take the roar out of snore. yet another innovation only at a sleep number store. in the personal story segment tonight, donald trump in the no spin zone zone. before speaking at rally earlier this week. trump faced on with bill o'reilly offer debate performance. lester holt and how he will deal with hillary clinton leading up to the next >> is there anything hillary clinton said in the debate that you will use, your campaign will use against her in the weeks ahead? >> i think there is. and i will tell you what really happened during the debate that was very interesting to me. i saw when she is talking and talking about what she's going to do and how she is going to do it and all of this, i realized she has been doing this for 26 to 30 years. and nothing ever gets done. even when she went to the united states senate, representing new york, she said she was going to bring jobs back to new york. and it was a disaster. upstate new york is a total disaster. but as she was talking about the various things. and i started to say wait a minute, hillary, have you been there for 26 years. and you vice president done it. why all of a sudden are you going to do it? you are not going to do it. get votes and after the votes see you later. four years or whatever. you were not real critical of hillary clinton at the time. >> i was if a businessman. i was all over the world. i was doing great. frankly, i got along with all politicians. it was my job to get along with politicians. i don't think about it now i think about it. i always got along with politicians. it was very important aspect of my business. >> okay. those who know manhattan know that's true. they are going to come after you, they being the clinton campaign, on the statement that you made that you were smart for paying as few taxes as you could possibly pay. you know that's going to be in the next debate. it's going to be on campaign ads. do you have any defense for that right now? >> no. i didn't say that what she said is maybe you paid no taxes i said well that would make me very smart. >> right. >> i have to till you something, tax is a big expense. i would mind paying taxes a lot less if our politicians knew thousand spend money but they don't. i saw the other day a report came out, $6 trillion. 6 trillion spent on the middle east. we have coo have rebuilt our country twice. >> now, the other avenue they are going to come after you is the women card all right? they are going to say that you are a mean guy and you don't respect women. do you have anything further to say on this miss universe thing? >> no, not much. i mean, look, i halderly know this person. this is a person 20 years ago. she did not do well. she had a lot of difficulties. and, you know, they wanted to fire her. the company itself wanted to fire her. i saved her job. look what i get out of it i get nothing. a lot of things are coming out about her. i really just don't know her. >> do you think that was a cheap shot by secretary clinton to bring that up? >> well, i think it was. and now a lot of things are coming out that i wasn't aware of like they say that she threatened the life of a judge and they got involved in all sorts of problems. if that turns out to be true, a lot of the things that are turning out to be, perhaps true, i think it's going to make hillary look extremely bad. >> do you believe that you have to do better among women, american women to win the election or do you believe you have enough support now? >> well, i think i'm doing well and i have been doing well with especially with married women. you saw the numbers. they went way up. hillary has spent over $200 million on ads against me. many of those ads are false. they are vicious and they are false. >> now, i'm asking you to grade lester holt, the debate moderator. a is best. f is worst. you say? >> c. you know, when i first did it, i thought i was fine. i wasn't thinking about it. but when i reviewed it and i saw all the commentary because a lot of people thought he was terrible. and i looked at all of the commentary, i realized he was much, much tougher on me than he was on hillary. it was like a day and night. and then he started, he hits me with the birther question, of course, and he likes to correct things that where i happen to be right, like we talked about stop and frisk and he was 100 percent wrong. but in the meantime i had go and prove the point it turns out that i was right. >> he interrupted you 41 times and interrupted hillary clinton seven times. >> i think he did. >> that's more than i interrupt you by the way. that's more than i do. >> he was worse than you and i agree. >> that's bad. charlotte, north carolina, the guy was shot dead, served six years in a texas penitentiary for shooting another guy. that was not reported. i have said that the protests are fine if you believe that the police are not fair to african-americans, you should protest. however, individual cases we should all wait until all the data comes. in all the facts are in. you agree with that correct? >> yeah. i do. i always agree on waiting and trying to get the information before you make a judgment. >> why did you not -- then why did you not say to hillary clinton, hey, you jump the gun by saying that we have -- this is deplorable, this is terrible. we have to solve this police problem. why didn't you go are a her on that. >> because i had many other things that i did go after her. a lot of people, you know, the whole evening was an interesting evening. a lot of people liked what i said about her. and, frankly, it was pretty tough what i said. you can't hit every single point. >> no, but you are the law and order candidate. >> it's called answer in 30 seconds. i thought her answer, having to do with the police, was very, very disrespectful to the police. she was petrified to talk about them in a positive way. and i thought, frankly, that was a disgrace. >> i thought you were going to bring that out. >> i thought it was very disrespectful answer to the police. there is no question about it. but i -- you know, you can only say so much in 22 seconds. >> i got it, but i was surprised because the law and order thing got into the stop and frisk and i thought the cops were going to come up. you got two more shots and she has two more shots at you. and we always appreciate you coming on. thank you very much. >> in the wake of this week's first presidential debate, the stakes just got higher for the next two. not to mention the vice presidential debate just three days away. ed henry joins us with a special preview right after this. i love my shop, but my back pain was making it hard to sleep and open up on time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. now i'm back. aleve pm for a better am. very gently release the clutch. -okay that was too fast. so is managing your credit. get experian creditworks basic for free today and you can start getting better. you'll get access to your experian credit report and customer service experts to help answer your questions. so you can learn to be better. good job. start building your credit skills today for free. visit experian.com/free right now. experian®. be better at credit. thanks for staying with us. this special edition of the o'reilly factor election 2016. i'm eri eric bolling in for loirl. in the factor follow-up segment tonight, the presidential debates. the first one is in the bag. the first and only vice presidential debate is just three days away and the remaining two presidential faceoffs could not be more critical for donald trump and hillary clinton. joining us now to analyze fox news chief national correspondent ed henry. ed, let's start with we talked about presidential debate. let's talk about vp debates. what do you expect out of that? two kind of low key guys? >> more policy-based i think there will be less of the personal attacks. out on the road you hear a lot of people on n. both parties saying if you flip these tickets, it would be a lot less of a circus and lot more serious talk about policy. both of these people, i think mike pence and tim kaine, both of them show that donald trump and hillary clinton pretty good judgment in terms of picking people. in both cases they have helped the base a little bit. but, also, they have been out there and been good surrogates. but they haven't been what you normally see from vp which is the attack dog. the red meat. do you know why in the top of the ticket is doing all of that. they are attacking the heck out of each other. they don't need the number two to do it. how could it be any tougher, any nastier than. >> we're so used to the attacks. if we set down for a policy debate with the vps, we might all fall asleep. >> so you don't. >> surprise. i think expectations are so low for the vp debate that maybe something interesting will happen. but the truth of the matter is, everybody in both parties senior officials tell me they are waiting for the second presidential debate. that's the main event. >> is there going to be any changes? i assume hillary clinton wants to do the same thing because she feels like she did a good job. >> i was talking to people very close to donald trump today say look, where they think they scored very well is obviously the first 20, 30 minutes on the message of you have been at it for 30 years. you are all talk, no action. hillary clinton, now when back and look at the tape had no real answer to that it's a mystery as to why donald trump moved off of that number one. number two, i heard from one person inside donald trump's camp that a line of attack they were planning to use but didn't use for whatever reason. >> why not? >> maybe he forgot. maybe there was a lot happening. people close to trump say that lester holt kept driving it in to tax returns and other issues. so he couldn't go to this other issue i'm going to tell you about that he really wanted to do which was how hillary clinton made all this money in public service. >> remember the big thing when hillary clinton brought up alicia machado, lester holt asked him a different question. donald trump you called her, commented about her looks. she didn't look presidential. he commented and then she took it and she. >> twist it and that's where donald trump has to learn something between the first and second debates. you put your finger right on it. which is that all of this talk about lester holt is a distraction. if he asks you a b. your tax returns, you can pivot to anything i want. what i hear inside the trump camp is some line of attack he wanted to use but did not is how did she leave the white house saying we're flat broke then make tens of millions of dollars? speeches, books, the foundation, all of this stuff, and meanwhile the clintons are attacking donald trump for making money as a businessman, when they both have been in public service making tons of cash. that was a library of attack, left not on the table but under the table somewhere. donald trump has to bring that. >> debate 101, answer the question you are asked in one sentence and 90 seconds on what you want to talk. >> much more effective at that donald trump is a businessman who has been through all kinds of pit falls, bankruptcies and always come back. people have counted him out. let's not forget in 2012 who won the first debate mitt romney and got his clock cleaned later. first debate night not matter. >> bill clinton, don't do it. not turning for him does he do that? >> if he makes this even nastier then it becomes boomer rang on donald trump. it's a race about him. only wins this race when he talk to people in both parties. donald trump wins this race if it's about hillary clinton. if it's about him. is he more likely to lose. meaning, look at her record, syria, bengals, all the foreign policy problems and challenges. and the fact that, again, on the domestic front, and overall leadership, when asked, what you have done for 30 years beyond give speeches, she had no good answer. >> three days we have a vp debate. 10 days we have a presidential debate. 10 days after that another presidential debate. boom, boom, boom. this thing in the next 23 days, that's where the sweet spot is. >> get the seat belt ready. >> thank you very much, ed. up ahead, geraldo rivera opines on the mainstream media hysteria over donald trump this week. my blood pressure might reach dangerously high levels. don't go away. justice is spelled b-o-x.hero, say hello to a powerful tool that gives you options to fit your budget. ♪ oh, i'm tied to this chair! ♪ dun-dun-daaaa! i don't know that an insurance-themed comic book is what we're looking for. did i mention he can save people nearly $600? 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>> george h.w. bush. >> he never had him him 15 months now. >> something is motivating the editorial boards to take a position -- >> they're nonsubscribers. >> you lose a couple here and there. look at the chicago tribune. tribune is the solid rock of the republican establishment. they endorsed garry johnson who can't name one foreign leader. >> the day after he couldn't name one foreign leader. who owns the tribune? anyway, the point is the day after he can't name one single foreign leader that he looks up to, ten, 20 days later he says what is aleppo. >> and endorse gary johnson. >> detroit news also, the same thing. >> why? >> because donald trump is giving a lot of people the vibe that he is unsuitable to have the nuclear codes. you can't start tweeting at 3:00 in the morning -- >> so don't endorse anybody. but gary johnson, you really want that guy with if nuclear codes? >> i wouldn't gary johnson to be the mayor of hoboken. it is what it is. donald trump is not attracting people who traditionally wou would -- >> they're not legitimately endorsing anybody. >> you can suggest that editorials don't mean anything bf au after a while they start to mean something. >> let's talk about howard deen who, for whfr reason, decided to tweet that post debate he alluded that donald trump may have had a coke problem. >> everybody noticed donald trump sniffing. i think howard dean is the only one that went to that unsubstantiated wild and hurtful rumor. today i heard you with mark cuban. you were right there there were audio problems. the debate commission admitted that there was something wrong with his mike phone. i think they had it jacked up too high and that's why you could hear him breathe in a way that was unnatural. but for how ward dean to say that -- >> awe doubling down on msnbc. today he apologized for innuendo. was it innuendo when he accused donald trump of having a coke habit? >> i think it's immature, he should be ashamed of himself. >> let's get to alicia machado. >> she set him up. hillary clinton absolutely set him up. he could have handled that with ease. he could have said to her, you want to talk about miss universe from 20 years ago, lock at the middle east, there are 300,000 dead syrians, libya, you got rid of gaddafi and now it's a mess. you want to talk about miss universe? i submit to you that's what's wrong with your candidacy and your party. but what he did do, he went to sleep with a chip on his shoulder, got up and started tweeting. >> remember when mitt romney was fact chekted, he didn't have it in his back pocket saying no, you're wrong, i'm right on this issue. why didn't he have it there. why didn't he go back and say this is not what the question was. >> because he was unprepared. he was unprepared. you can't wing it. sometimes you just can't wing it. even you come on the show, i'm here to talk to you three, four minutes. you read, you do background, check things out, put things in perspective. you don't just wing it on basic knowledge. he thinks because he's charismatic -- and i love the guy. i've known him forever and i'm so proud of the way he advanced through the republican primary process. but you can't -- >> if you're donald trump do you change? >> you have to. today he was many michigan and he read a teleprompter speech, thank god. he should do just that. you sit with experts, sit with someone who plays the role of hillary clinton. how could he not be prepared for birtherism. >> i have to go. maybe he's got to come out with a west coast offense. >> i think he played wing it. >> bill will be back on monday. i want to congratulate bill. his book "killing the rising sun" is number one on every single best selling list in the world. has lrnd 1.3 million copies in front. after picking up his book, check out my book "wake up america." but when we come back, jesse watters at the presidential debate. a sneak before we go tonight, i cleared my saturday evening schedule for one reason, an all new episode of watters world. watters didn't miss is golden opportunity to go to monday's presidential debate. >> why did hillary go so negative right from the jump. >> she didn't go negative. >> this isn't an election. it's a contrast. >> elections are a contrast, okay? >> well this episode airs saturday at 8:00 p.m. eastern right here on fnc. don't miss it. there's a brand-new podcast up today features new information on the warrior scandal. check it out. it's a very good one. that's it for us tonight. thanks for watching the special edition of "the o'riley factor." i'm in for bill o'reilly who will be back on monday with powerful analysis of where trump stands with his matchup with hillary clinton. please remember, the spin stops right here because we're looking out for you. breaking tonight, we have new numbers from the first major polls since the presidential debate and they give us significant insight of how the showdown of hofstra is affecting this race. well come to "the kelly file" everybody. i'm megyn kelly. that was taken after the debate by hillary clinton and donald trump. we'll get to it in a moment with chris stirewalt and howie kurtz. with 39 day to go before the collection, charles crout hammer offers his advice to the candidates. over the past 24 hours we've witnessed a remarkable series of attacks from the two candidate capped off
New-yorkUnited-statesArkansasNevadaNorth-carolinaTexasPhiladelphiaPennsylvaniaWashingtonCaliforniaSan-diegoSyria some saying that could be a vote next week. democrats seizing the floor last night to protest to gut the health care law. suzanne mel vow is live on the hill for us. >> reporter: while many people were asleep, democrats were up, they were on the senate floor doing a protest, a talk-a-thon to try to call attention to the process that republicans are engaged in in trying to craft their own version on the senate side of repealing and replacing obamacare. and one of these things that they're asking for committee hearings, a copy of the text when that becomes available, when the bill is actually written and all senators meeting -- senator majority leader mitch mcconnell has rejected all three requests leaving them very few options other than the slow down the process and to make some noise. >> the republicans are writing their health care bill under the cover of darkness because they were ashamed of it. >> if this bill was as wonderful as the proponents would like for us to believe, it would be out in the open. >> there's only one word for what the senate republicans are doing with this bill. shame f shameful. >> reporter: they're negotiating the issue over cutting medicaid and we're learning on the senate side there could be deeper cuts than on the house version of this bill. that would make the conservatives happy but the moderates would be alienated. >> there was room to criticize the process with the aca and the current manifestation of the law but it was a lot more open process than what we're teelg with with trumpcare. join us now or flee cnn analysts, maggie haberman, david gregory and david rucker. david gregory, how do you tie these two big stories together, the special election in georgia with ossoff and handle and what's going on or not going on with health care. >> when i look at georgia, i see two things. it's a test of the trump brand now that he is president. this was a district that tom price held, been republican for a long long time and he won it narrowly. there's room for democrats. so you want to test the trump brand and see how it is out there given all of the turbulence of the trump administration. what is democratic intensity like out there and that's one thing we can measure, a lot of excitement about trying to win back congress next year. is this an early barometer of how the democrats are doing. just as republicans in 2010 did, so will democrats in 2018 do which is use health care as a way to really get out democratic voters intensely around the idea that your coverage is being taken away nap's the early look at the play book and i think that's what's happening on the hill as well. that's what the democrats are preparing to argue. >> so david, everybody thinks these things are harbingers of what is going to happen in the midterm until it doesn't go their way. like in cnn or montana. can we truly consider georgia a bellwether? >> let's not forget in 2010, in 2006, the par pi that won the special elections still ended up losing the election. it's early on in terms of that. number one, it's the kind of district the democrats have to win, upscale suburban, they've been republican for a long time but they're not high on president trump. this is the district they're going to have to win next year to win the majority. there are 23 republican seats that hillary clinton won last near. though it may not be a harbinger in terms of 20 s18, it could ha an immediate influence on the hill. we have members of the senate who have yet to vote on a health care bill. and if jon ossoff wins this thing, a lot of republicans are going to be looking over their shoulder wondering if they want to take these tough votes. this is a health care bill that has not been well h-received. as poorly as obamacare is functioning right now, it's more popular for the first time ever. there's things to watch out of what happens today. >> and you could make the case that georgia is neither montana nor ckansas. it should be a gop seat. it has been since '79. tom price held it and he won by big margins there. trump only won over a point and a half over clinton. and that's why they dumped so much money into it and a lot of the money, most of the money overwhelmingly most of the money for jon ossoff comes from out of state. how big of a deal is it? >> it is a big deal. i think there's a danger in overreading what any special election means in terms of the broader landscape and i think that's the case here. but i think that democrats really need a win. you've had a lot of democratic anger, tied up in a movement called the resistance. they need to parlay that into victory, somewhere, especially because while we've been focus on the white house's problems and they are many, the democrats are still trying to figure out exactly why they lost in 2016 and what that means going forward. so i think a lot of that is going to come out of what happens in this district. if democrats lose, it tends to translate more into whether they actually win. winning will be important and significant but a loss will be very very painful. a win does not portend taking back the majority in 2018. and i think david rucker is right. this is going to be a factor less for the day and more in terms of how members of congress vote. one thing to watch for this summer is how many retirements do you get from the congressional republicans who get frustrated, feeling nothing is getting done, we're here and not moving, we've had the governing majority and not made anything happen, particularly if health care does not pass. you're going to have members concerned, depending on what they see happen today on taking another vote on a trefrl bicont bill and what that could mean next year. >> i do think that voters who sense what maggie is saying, nothing is getting done in washington, that plays different ways. you know one of the factors back in 2010, which was the first midterm for president obama is that the government had done so much, going back to the bank bailouts and the response to the financial crisis and that a lot of voters wanted a stop on that, they wanted a stop on how much government was doing. here we haven't seen a lot from the trump administration by way of actual activity and accomplishment. and we don't see much in the way of a democratic alternative. we're fighting about preserving obamacare. and so outside of the den and all of the noise out of washington, we're going to want to gauge deeper into next near what the motive is. >> dems held the floor until midnight last night. i'm not sure what that accomplished. but how are they going to vote on something they don't know? >> it's was deja vu all over again but the teams has changed sides. distinctly i was watching chuck schumer warn republicans, you know, when you do things in the dead of night accommodations are made. i was thinking about the louisiana purchase. what people need to understand about the republicans in this health care bill, politically they're in a tough spot but it's tougher if they do nothing. their base elected them to run the entire government. one of the biggest promises we've seen in american political history is to repeal and replace obamacare, the affordable care act. and despite how unpopular the american health care bill is and how poorly it's been received and how worried members are, if they do nothing they risk a repun yags by they own base and next year why bother showing up if you can't respond to a promise. so if the choice is voting 0 an bill the people don't like and doing nothing, they're going to take their chances and vote for something that the people don't like in hopes that it hefixing health care system that they don't like and create the activity that people feel is missing. >> one is that this fixing everything. i don't understand. i've been reading this for months. i'm trying to get the economics of it. part of it is we don't know enough. that's part of the problem. you can attack the aca as much as you want. you had all of those hearings. we covered them. it took forever. there's none of it. that's why the democrats were on the floor last night. they were on the floor to provoke a conversation about the lack of consideration. how do they sell this as a fix when all we know about it is it sucks money out and in doing so jeopardizes so many people from getting coverage and that they clearly don't want it out in the open. >> the number you will hear over and over again as this process barrels toward a possible conclusion at a speed the democrats are trying to slow down is a 23 million figure. that's this number of people that will lose coverage on a course of a decade. that is a big problem. the whole purpose of the fix is supposed to be that more people could bget it. those are the kind of numbers that the voters tend to understand, no mat whaer is taking place behind closed doors. there are two things that will make sense. one is a loss of conch average one is cuts that is seemed to be talked about. and then there's the broader problem for the republicans right now again because they control all of government, is there were those huge protests in 2010 about the affordable care act and they were understandab understandable. and that was a far more visible process than this is. there are quotes from mike pence, quotes from mick mcconnell, a number of republicans going back to 2010 talking about the shame of doing this behind closed doors. you are going to see all of those quotes get recycled. you may have voters who are going to say look, washington is broken and we're not blaming it on anyone in particular but the republicans are getting close to the line. and i think david rucker is right, you do have people who have campaigned for a party for three cycles now on repealing this and they do need to show some traction. >> panel, thank you very much for all of that. we'll check back momentarily. coming up in the show on the 8:00 hour we're going to have the democrat candidate in the georgia special election, jon ossoff, there he is, the man of the moment, can he pull off a big win for the democrats. we did invite his republican challenger karen handle as we have in the past. she declined. so the u.s. will handle it. that's the reaction from president trump after this horrible death of an american student held captive by north korea. is his response strong enough? 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>> i don't think we know yet. and you're correct that i mean it's hard to read about this case. it's really, really painful. and i think that, you know, the administration is clearly feeling the impact of that. look, the president's strategy towards north korea has relied heavily on pressuring china and beijing. he has not pressured beijing to the degree that he suggested he would during the campaign and it remains to be seen whether he'll take a plr forceful tact. there are going to be talks with chinese officials this week. we'll see if that brings anything new. they're in a tough position vis-a-vis with north korea without many options. >> this is a temptation to want to confront the president with his own word and programises wh it came to the foreign policy. so in a situation like this when he is clearly not, you know, upping the hostility, there's an opportunity for criticism. is that the right move. is north korea, in your experience, an actor where confronting them and being more muscular is the smart move? >> it depends on what you're talking about. sometimes yes. look, mus c muscularity and str. you see them act strongly when we do exercises. but there are other intastances like this one where you have to play with a careful hand. i suspect that they're thinking all through the options right now and it can go anywhere from sanctions to more, you know, passive diplomatic demarshes. and i don't think seriously these talks with the chinese are going to produce any results. it will come up but i wouldn't look to this meeting with the chinese to result to anything specific. >> i want to stay with you for one more second. the warmbier family seems to be putting part of the blame on the obama administration where you were of course in the state department saying that you all didn't do enough to bring otto home. what were the efforts? >> i did see those comments. my heart goes out to the family. i understand the grief they're going through. actually i don't understand it. it's deeper than anybody can guess. and i certainly understand the frustrations that they expressed. i respect that. now what i would tell you is -- and i was at the state department when otto was detained and taken. and what i can tell you and all of the american people is that the state department worked tirelessly to try to secure his release, as well as the release of the other americans that are being detained there. secretary kerry took it on personally and personally engaged his chinese counter part time and time again, mentioning otto by name. working this hard. there was every effort. and obviously we failed to get him home. this administration deserves credit for getting him out of there. we failed to do that. it's a regret we all carry with us. >> what did they do that you didn't? >> i don't know. i think -- actually, i don't know because i wasn't party to their conversations. i do think that the revelation of otto's physical condition and the urgency that it demanded had a lot to do with it but again i wasn't part of that. >> it's also curious, and i'm sure the admiral knows about this that the state department doesn't prohibit americans from visiting north korea, as was the case. i wonder if there will be a review of that. the other piece of this to senator mccain and rubio who talk about challenging north korea perhaps militarily, how difficult that is because of the vulnerability of the troops in south korea. are there smaller steps you can take without it's ka lating nap's what's so difficult with an unhinged regime like this that is testing advanced weaponry the way they are. you could get to a major scale conflict that nobody wants which is why the chinese are so important. we'll fear that kind of escalation, persuade the chinese to do something knowing that the u.s. can't be in a situation where we have one of our citizens murdered like this after being detained and tortured and stand idly by. >> let's talk about the latest threat in the russia investigation. there's a new wrinkle that the democrat white house seems to be float and that he believes that michael flynn is cooperating. he's reading the tea leaves, he says, so he's speculating but he sees signs that mick l flynn may already be offering up information to investigators. >> unless the senate has information that the rest of us are not privy to by the way of the senate investigation, and it's possible that he does, it's hard to tell from the outside whether somebody is cooperating with the fbi. there's a lot of speculation about what someone is doing, whether it's michael flynn or somebody else in another case. it is impossible to know. that having been said, it has been widely speculated on, well beyond the senator that michael flynn either has or will cut some kind of a deal with the fbi. and his attorneys have been clear that he's looking for an immunity deal. there's a belief within the white house that a lot of what you see about president trump signaling to michael flynn through anonymous stories, stay strong, he's said he wished he hadn't fired flynn. that's a concern of flynn working in tandem with the fbi and what that can mean. >> the idea that flynn didn't just fail to disclose some of his russia activities but that specific to the middle east, what do you see there as a sensitivity th sensitivity? >> obviously there are lots of security contracts, defense relationships that we have with countries there. i don't know what his dealings could be in terms of his consulting work. more critically what this shows me is a pattern of behavior here of nondisclosure of foreign contacts and it's not just by general flynn. i think this just builds on the narrative there was a lot of foreign activity going on during the transition that wasn't being transparent and wasn't -- and then disclose when it had to be. >> panel, thank you very much for all of those insights. another sorry, the supreme court agreeing to hear a case that could fundamentally change the way has that america conducting its elections. details next. mmmm. mmmm. mmmm... ugh. nothing spoils a moment like heartburn. try new alka-seltzer ultra strength heartburn relief chews. it's fast, powerful relief with no chalky taste. 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what does that mean in terms of this window of what the president does and does not respond to. let's discuss with senior add to editor of the tlikt and jason miller, the former senior communications adviser for the trump campaign. gentlemen, good to have you both. what do you see? >> one of the way that the president tweets in his own voice, he becomes responsible for everything he says and everything he does not say. he creates an imprint. you can see from his tweets his rages, fears and moods. they know what time of the day he gets up and down and you can see his real attitude toward friends and causes. he gets a lot less exercise about the deaths of muslim than he does about the deaths of nonmuslims. >> this is not the first time that the president hadn't immediately responded to an attack on muslims. we saw one a few months ago. and it's a fair argument to say well he doesn't comment on everything. but the white house has made it clear, as has the president, his tweets matter, they're to be seen as official statements of the president. why isn't he out in front of what happened in london? >> i do find it ironic so much of the conch recently has been on the president tweeting too much and now he's not tweeting enough. >> he can't tweet enough for me. on this show it's a different context. >> i said much of the coverage lately and that goes for all members of the media across the board as far as what we've seen. look, i think one of the things we've got to keep in mind is this attack just happened yesterday. and i think some of the criticism of the president after the most recent london attacks is he was out there too soon, commenting before all of the information is in. now what we don't know is what additional things the president or the white house might have lined up today and i do think we have to point out that the president did weigh in strongly yesterday with regard to the seven sailors who were killed in the ship collision as well as the tragic killing of otto warmbier which by the way i have to commend you and this network for putting so much time behind that story this morning. i quite frankly found it shameful that some of the dailies today had it reduced to a postage stamp on their front pages. good for you for doing that. it's so soon. this attack just happened yesterday. it might be that the president is waiting to get more information and we might hear from him shortly. >> well we haven't seen that reserve when it's not muslims and other things that the president seems to care more about. >> well the president also very visibly internalized what other people think about him. how people feel about him is the most important element of psychology. he's rendered himself utterly toxic in the united kingdom. probably a labor government fairly soon and under an anti-american leader. and all of this is super relevant. right now the trump administration is driving, without much of a plan, toward confrontations in syria and northeast asia and is doing so without allies and in a situation where even the british are going to be difficult to bring along because the president made himself and the united states so toxic in the british political environment. >> even if you wanted to wait for more information, what would be wrong about getting out in front of just wishing the best to your ally britain? >> well, and again, we don't know. we don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes. we don't know what's coming in from intelligence reports. >> there can't be any reason not to express condolence to the british right? >> and there very well might be the possibility that that's something that's going to happen today. but i think the president had his focus clearly on the americans who were killed yesterday and that's where he was keeping most of his attention. look, this attack literally just happened yesterday. i think it's -- to go and say that the president hasn't done it yet and therefore he's not going to or that he's ignoring it, i don't think we can make that assumption. >> by definition if you haven't said anything by something you are ignoring it. and when you talk about north korea, yes, the president did comment on it but it was a very different type of measured comment than the muscularity that he suggested he would use with north korea, certainly far more passive than he was about cuba. he gave a speech that was 50-odd minutes long, strong and what he wanted there. with north korea much more measured even though we have a potential homicide of an american at north korean hands. why? >> the important thing i think some of this in our previous segment, what we also don't know is what other conversations are happening and what the administration is trying to do with bringing home additional american prisoners. again, big credit to the administration for getting otto warmbier home. i wish we could have got him back in better shape and he was still alive and with us. this killing is absolutely terrible. but many of our options might be limited when it comes to north korea. >> since the intervention at camp david when the president was isolated and prevented from tweeting about robert mueller. he has been more restrained. something happened apt camp david. since then he's been on best behavior. >> jason miller unless you know anything about the third scoop, we'll leave it are for another time. thank you both. alison? >> that is persuasive. so a college star about to achieve his basketball dream with a big assist from his mom. details in the bleacher report next. where are mom and dad? 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if you'd rather be home, ask your doctor about neulasta onpro. five months into the trump administration, how are his strong supporters feeling and how about his opponents. what's their plan. we sat down with republicans, democrats and an independent to take their pulse and we start with a registered democrat who voted for garry johnson for president but who says he's come around to supporting president trump. >> my feeling is very complicated. i voted for johnson, third party voter. however i have been moving towards the president. there are people oppoopposing h not on policy but they don't like him. i don't like that. it's important that we support the president. we're all in this together. >> it's like the rhetoric. we're like we're in perpetual campaign. both parties need to take responsibility for the radicals on each side of the aisle and influence the parties to make positive influence for average people. >> it's not just the rhetoric, it's not just his twitter feed. it's the policies that he is enacting, the policies he's pulling out of. this is daily doing damage to our country and to our future generations and to the world. >> i just think if we give him a little bit of time and we all work together, democrats, republicans, and we cut out the crazy we'll be all right. >> cut out the crazy. that's a good national motto. when you hear the folks on this side or other trump supporters say you've got to give him a chance, hasn't been long enough, what do you say? >> it shouldn't take six months. it shouldn't take six weeks. the office of presidency is not a place to cut your teeth on government. >> i don't think it's in our best interest to try to focus on the areas where we disagree. i think we should try to start where we agree, infrastructure, tax reform, getting more jobs, you know, taking care of america. who is against that? let's start there and then we can kind of work from there and you know, maybe turn off his twitter, you know. >> show of hands, wish that he would stop the twitter. why are you half and half on stopping the twitter. >> i'll be honest, it's like watching a train wreck. but at the same time, i mean, he's telling us things that he shouldn't be telling us that are going to get him in trouble and really he's kind of helping speed that process i believe of getting him out of office just because he can't shut up. >> trump hasn't done anything to anybody. he's tweeted. hasn't really passed any major legislation. where's the travel ban now. there are mechanisms that we have to deal with a personality as big as trump and we have to give him a chance to -- i hate to use his vernacular but drain the swamp. >> i don't think he's draining the swamp. he's filling the swamp with more of the same. how many people are from goldman sachs that he's working for. how many people are billionaires. >> every other administration has done the same thing. he may not be draining the swamp in that aspect. but when he's trying to shrink the size of government, give him a chance. >> let's start bringing jobs home by making his ties here. why can't he bring his companies here to america to create jobs. you got to lead by example. you're the leader of the free world. >> i somewhat agree with that but i do think he's made some changes that are positive. the paris accord, rattling nato in my mind was a good thing. you know, that is another deal that is a raw deal as far as america is concerned. >> i mean i think putin is getting exactly what he wants out of all of this. you shake up nato and it shakes up our leadership, it shakes up our relationships and russia has had a clear, clear impact globally. i mean putin is not stupid. i mean i think that he's got his claws in globally. and it feels to me that, that the shaking up of nato to me is not a good thing. i don't disagree that we're paying more than our fair share. i don't disagree with that. but i think there's a way to negotiate that. and this is the guy who says he can make the best deals ever and i haven't seen that yet. >> back to the giving him a little time concept, i think that what he did with nato is step one, and that's to bring everybody to the table. >> i disagree. i disagree. i don't think he's bringing people to the table. i think he's alienating the united states from the rest of the world. and pulling out of the paris agreement was horrible. a bad decision. we're alienating our allies even at this point. our international diplomacy is horrible. >> i kind of disagree because i think he has achieved great success over the years with that posture and that approach and i think he's using the same approach. >> in business. >> they all have to start somewhere. >> that's in business. the way you conduct business is not the way you run a country. >> he is our president. what is it like for you as nonsupporters to have to function >> i'm really struggling. i'm struggling to not stay in my echo chamber on social media. i started a company called rise travel and we take people to -- we do travel logistic to get people to and from marches and rallies and things like that. it's lit a fire for me. >> i have decided at my level that i am running for congress. i'm going to run for the u.s. house of representatives to represent ohio's tenth district. >> is that right? >> yes. i plan to do what democrats never do which is to go out into all parts of my district, including the rural republican parts and give them my message, saying let's open a dialogue. i don't think i would have considered this had hillary clinton won. >> last question. hillary clinton is sort of dancing around the edges of public stage. is she still a leader in the democratic party? >> i think it's past hillary. we need a new vision. we need people who are not the common politician and let's, let's really create a future that is viable for all of us. all of us. >> so one of the things that i heard from them and that i've heard from a lot of voters and i think this is interesting that this has taken root. the two-party system, republican/democrat is not cutting it for them anymore. they want other options. they don't want to be put in those boxes. a lot of them feel fiscally conservative and socially moderate and they don't know where to go for those feelings. >> in truth i've been hearing that since i was eight. >> maybe it's time to do something about that. >> third parties never get any purchase, whether it's because of the money or the dominant personalities. it doesn't happen. >> i hear you. but it feels like there's maybe a chipping point. maybe something is changing. if enough people say we want to break out of this mold, then maybe something happens. >> maybe. >> thanks so our international viewers for watching if for your cnn newsroom is next. for u.s. voters, "new day" continues right now. all eyes on georgia today. >> the intensity is high. it's a neck in neck race. >> it's obviously a test of the trump brand now that he is president. >> let's send someone to washington who can really handle it. >> you're asked to pick up the phone on an investigation. >> the stone walling that we're getting over here at the white house. i don't know what world we're living in right now. >> you don't forget a $100 billion deal. >> are you under investigation by the special counsel? >> a lot of bad things happen but aleast we got him home to be with his parents. >> north koreans cannot be allowed to seize americans, brutalize them and send them home in a coma to die. >> the adm
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