Without objection. I see my time has expired, and i yield back. The gentle lady yields back. Mr. Hur, why did joe biden willfully retain and disclose classified materials . He knew the law. Been in office, like, 50 years, five decades in the United States senate, chairman of the Senate Foreign relations committee, and eight years as Vice President , and he got briefed every day as Vice President. He has been in the situation room. In fact, you know he knew the rules because you said so on page 226. President biden was deeply familiar with the measures taken to safeguard Classified Documents. Joe biden told us he knew the rules. Mr. Armstrong said this earlier, joe biden was deeply familiar with it, and you are exactly right, he told us, when jack smith goes after donald trump, biden said how does that happen . Its irresponsible. Joe biden told us he knew the rules, so mr. Hur, why did he break them . Congressman, the conclusion as to exactly why the president did what he did is not one
He was trying to stay above the fray. Brendan, i have not read as mike has, the full transcript. I read the New York Times analysis of it. Again, something for everybody. Times when joe biden, they point out, couldnt remember specific dates. Didnt have specific memory of how some of these documents were handled but they also said to mikes point about sense of humor, mr. Biden went into great detail about many manners, the transcript shows. He made jokes over the two days, teasing the prosecutors and at certain points, he corrected his interrogators when they were the ones who misspoke. Is it clear to you on either side, brendan, that one side or the other walks away with something politically advantageous . Well i think to answer that question, you have to think about where we started from. When this report came out, it was an absolute bombshell, really underscoring the president s difficulty politically with his age. It was a gift to republicans. Now, when you get to a congressional h
That you read. Moat notably given the chance to avoid prosecution, mr. Trump allegedly did the opposite. According to the indictment, he not only refused to return the documents for many months but he also obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and to lie about it. You may stop there. Thank you, you mentioned the indictment against mr. Trump for mishandling classified sensitive security information. That indictment says tend of his presidency, mr. Trump im looking for my indictment here i have it here. Mr. Trump himself ordered that boxes containing classified materials go to maralago. Where he hosted Tens Of Thousands of guests. Then he kept the sensitive materials carelessly about the property as you can see here. Classified documents ended up in a bathroom. A ball room, on a floor strewn about. And when a grand jury subpoenaed the documents, what did donald trump do . The indictment again shows against him what he responded by. Suggesting that his attorney falsel
updated? i don t have the answer for you on that. there s a number of policies relevant for this. that may affect you ll commit to providing those to us to explore them together? i will commit to provide a briefing that will have very helpful information. what about a written policy explaining how commercially available information can be used in criminal investigations? i think it s all wrapped up in the same answer i just gave. the reason that this is so important is because the question is whether the fbi uses that data to generate leads for investigations only or further along in the investigative process. there s public reporting on dhs contracts with the same data brokers that i mentioned earlier totalling millions of taxpayer dollars. as you know in the 2018 supreme court decision in carpenter versus united states, the court held that it s a violation of the fourth amendment for the government to access historical local data without a warrant. does the fb
so good to be back with you on this second special hour of msnbc reports with josé diaz-balart. it is 1:00 p.m. eastern, 10:00 a.m. pacific. it looks like former president donald trump will not be allowed to have the last word at his civil fraud hearing in new york. what the judge is now saying and what it could mean for the former president s legal case. plus, the surprise standoff on capitol hill, hunter biden visits congress sitting feet away from house republicans trying to hold him in contempt of congress. the witness being afraid to come in front of the committee, that s interesting. he s here. he doesn t seem to be too afraid. inside that faceoff and the political impact next. and the major impeachment push playing out on capitol hill right now as republicans hold their first critical hearing tied to removing secretary of homeland security alejandro mayorkas from office over the crisis at the border. we ll talk to the ranking member of the house border