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is to stay at home. there is new government guidance on workplace safety, but will you feel safe going in to work? i'll speak to the union body the tuc. people who are travelling to work are urged to avoid public transport. those who need to use it should wear face coverings and keep their distance from other passengers. the english housing market is being restarted — buyers and renters can visit estate agents and view properties. golf clubs in england are reopening today, demand for tee time has been through the roof as players are desperate to get back on the course. good morning! sunny spells for most of today but still some wintry showers in the far north—east. i'll be here all morning with a look on how the next few days are shaping up. it's wednesday the 13th of may. our top story. builders and factory workers in england are among those being encouraged to return to work from today, as the government starts to ease lockdown restrictions. the prime minister is also allowing those of us in england to spend unlimited time in parks and public spaces, and to do some outdoor sport. in wales, scotland and northern ireland, the message remains to "stay at home". charlotte rose reports. it's back to work for some in england today. in wales, scotland and northern ireland, the message remains "stay at home". but on sunday night, the prime ministers that he was actively encouraging people in england who could not work from home to return to theirjobs from home to return to theirjobs from today. it means employers have had a short time to prepare workplaces for a new world of social distancing. although people are being encouraged to cycle, walk or use their own cars to get to work, there are fears of high demand for transport, which could lead to long queues. leaders of all of the major rail unions wrote to the government earlier this month saying they have severe concerns about attempts to increase the frequency and capacity of services. but despite this limited reopening in england, the doors of many businesses will remain firmly closed. yesterday, the chancellor announced he was extending the government's furlough scheme. it means the government will continue to pay 80% of the wages of 7.5 million britons into the end of july, some reducing wages into the end of october. this is an important scheme but also absolutely the right thing to do. what is clear to me is the cost of not doing this for society, for our economy, for our country, would be far higher. yesterday, 627 people died from covid—i9 in hospitals, care homes or at home. although it is an increase on the previous day's figure, the number of deaths and infections is appalling across the uk. and there is positive news for those who are not at work, from today in england, garden centres will reopen and people will be allowed to do outdoors sports i go for tennis as long as they keep apart. you also allowed to meet with one person from outside your household in an open space as long as you maintain a two metre distance. for homebuyers or renters looking to move, house viewings can now restart. and for all of the nations, once daily exercise has been expanded to unlimited daily exercise. today marks a small,, cautious step on the road to reopening the country. charlotte rose, bbc news. charlotte is at canning town station in east london. shejoins us from she joins us from there. in some ways this is a really important day. what is it looking like at the moment, other more people on the way to work —— are there? moment, other more people on the way to work -- are there? i should say that normally canning town would be very busy. of course we are in anything but normal times. so far this morning things are looking fairly quiet. both buses and trains seem to have quite few people on them. looking at the platforms, people able to keep their distance. but it is still early for lots of people going to work, and the number of people is increasing. in the run—up to today, the government's been urging people not to use public transport to get to work if they possibly can, saying they should walk, cycle or use the car instead. they also seen people need to be prepared to queue because the network is running at one tenth of normal capacity. they are thing people need to take additional precaution, trying to stay two metres away from each other if they can, wearing a face mask or covering and trying to use contactless payments if that is available and possible. they also say people should try to avoid travelling during the peak rush—hour period, although for some people that will clearly be difficult. today is the first time for many people that they will be going back to work in seven weeks, so it's going to be a real test of how this new system works and whether people can follow the rules. charlotte, we will be back with you throughout the morning. for the moment, thank you very much. our political correspondent, iain watson, is in westminster this morning. listening carefully to all of that. good morning. took us through some of these key issues that will change today in england. the careful reopening of the housing market, how is that going to work? well, let's see. it will be interesting to see how it works, it will certainly have to be very different. estate agents are allowed to be open from today in england. previously in the coronavirus crisis people could only do virtual viewings or viewings on apps. now people can start looking at properties again, but social distancing must be maintained. both the estate agents and when you are viewing a home. so let's see how that works if you are looking for a small studio flat. in addition to that, also removals will be allowed as well, there has been some talk by the association of british removers, doing temperature checks on staff to make sure they are not ill and the government is stressing if you do have symptoms and you by not having a house move, don't do it, self—isolate for seven or 11! days as appropriate. and we have been watching virtual parliament for the last few days, there is a suggestion we could be returning to more traditional parliament. one could that happen? that's right. again, it won't be quite parliament again, jacob rees—mogg, the leader of the house of commons that it was going to happen soon after the second may bank holiday, what is called the whitsun recess, and these big video screens you are a thing would be taken down and bringing parliament back to normal. except it wouldn't be, because social distancing measures would have to remain in place. you can't have more than 50 mps, there are 650 in total, but 50 in parliament at the one time. so they would need negotiations between parties as to who would be allowed in and holding ministers to account. jacob rees—mogg says this is parliament leading by example because they are telling people to get the work they cannot get to work from home. but labor says they are setting a bad example because the guidance from governments as the advice is that home if you can —— labour, parliamentary staff as well as mps are looking forward to when it will be safe to return. we will be speaking to grant shapps, the transport secretary at 7:30am. if you have questions about some of the things he was talking to then you can things he was talking to then you ca n co nta ct things he was talking to then you can contact us at bbc breakfast online. plenty of time to ask your questions. and tell us your concerns oi’ questions. and tell us your concerns or things you want clarity on. millions of self—employed people whose businesses have been affected by coronavirus can apply for government grants from today. the scheme would see people have money in their account six days, it is pa rt in their account six days, it is part of the fellow scheme extended into october. —— furlough scheme. the usa's leading infectious disease expert has said the country does not yet have coronavirus under control. that's despite california easing restrictions from today. doctor anthony fauci says a premature lifting of the lockdown will lead to unnecessary deaths. our north america correspondent peter bowes joins us now from los angeles. peter, what's the public appetite for a return to normality? good morning, yeah, there is a yearning to get back to normal. people want to go back to work, they wa nt to people want to go back to work, they want to see their friends again, they want their children to go back to school. and to some extent, that is beginning to happen in california with the governor giving the go—ahead for some restaurants around the state to open, some shops opening as long as you pick up your goods by the curbside los angeles cou nty goods by the curbside los angeles county the beaches are reopening for swimming but you can't sit on the beach. so it's quite a patchy picture there, the university system here has announced classes won't be restarting in autumn. so, quite confusing for some people and of course in the background, as you mention, doctor anthony fauci, the leading pandemic advisor to the trump administration suggesting if the states move too quickly, more lives could be lost. so it's really a sobering reminder to a lot of people, the seriousness of the situation. and i think it puts into perspective the dilemma that so many people in this country are facing, the level of risk they are prepared to ta ke the level of risk they are prepared to take to get back to normal. peter, well, thank you very much indeed. we will be talking about one thing that is going to change in today in england, the reopening of garden centres this morning. but here's one item of horticultural hardware you won't find on sale. this motorised wheelbarrow was made from an old moped and has a top speed of around 40mph! the creator, kevin nicks, who already holds a guinness record for the world's fastest shed. would you believe that? he hopes to get his "barrow of speed" into the record books once the lockdown is over. imean, it i mean, it didn't look like he put much in the barrow. is itjust an engine? but speed, he might not have been able to get much in there, but you could do it quickly. let's take a look at today's papers. the times says the housing market is being kick—started. the paper says people will be allowed to visit and view properties. the daily express says the chancellor rishi sunak has given a "lifeline" to affected workers with his announcement about extending the furlough scheme. that will be extended until october. the cost of the pandemic to the exchequer could reach almost £300 billion this year, that's according to the daily telegraph. the paper says it has seen a confidential treasury document which sets out a proposed package of tax increases and spending reductions. and online, the independent says an army of unpaid volunteers is being recruited to carry out coronavirus tests across the country as ministers try to hit their target of 200,000 a day. let's have a quick look at the inside pages. what is really clear about this week is there are so many questions that so many of us want answered. and the papers, obviously we do this here on bbc breakfast, but the papers are good at doing this, too. looking at the times, they have a 0&a, can omit my parents as long as we are outside, two metres apart? the answer is no, gatherings of more than two people from outside the same household is banned in england. the different rules of other places. having your friends will not be possible until a vaccine or treatment for covid—i9 is found. we were told this yesterday. this is the patrick vallance, the chief scientific advisor, saying finding a vaccine is by no means assured. so lots of different things there. ask for an estimate of when people will be able to hide someone they have just met, i people will be able to hide someone they havejust met, i mean, would you have someone they havejust met, i mean, would you have someone you have just met, that's a question. anyway, mr hancock said i would not recommend it. to get to the point, things will advance when we have a treatment or advance when we have a treatment or a vaccine. the papers have a lot more, if you want details, they have all of them, lots of them have a lot of detail. can you remember the last person you hugged who was not in your house? i think it might've been the lovely zoe williams. on your challenge? it could have been them, because there was the sport relief night. yes, that was all happening at the time. it might've been her. talking about the housing market as well, because you cannot see your pa rents well, because you cannot see your parents as well, saying in the times, here's the thing, a retired doctor won £500,000 but he didn't risk going for the millionaire question on who wants to be a millionaire. so this is the first question he had, which of these products is sold by the brands colgate, oral—b, or censored iron? it's toothpaste. and this is the £1 million question, retired gp andrew townsley said he was happy with his toys, he didn't go for an answer in this —— his choice. in the history of motorsport, which of these iconic races of motorsport, which of these iconic ra ces was of motorsport, which of these iconic races was held first? the mont 24—hour is, the monaco grand prix, the indy 500, or the isle of man tt? why don't we leave that with the people at home while we do what we do for the next five minutes your own breakfast and then you can a nswer own breakfast and then you can answer it. if you didn't know, and you had to hazard a guess, i do that sort of person? would you gamble £500,000? no way! man k got an amazing picture to show you in the daily mirror, look at that, a bald eagle. it snatches a fish from the water. snooping down at 100 miles per hour, perfectly ca ptu res at 100 miles per hour, perfectly captures the birds meet along wingspan and precision flying, taken in alaska by british photographer alan murphy who lives in texas and was on his travels in alaska. what a shot that is, it's good, isn't it. from today, garden centres can reopen in england. which is good news if your lockdown lawn needs some love. those in wales opened on monday but in scotland and northern ireland they remain closed. john maguire is at a garden centre in dorset to see how they're planning to keep staff and customers safe. yes, that's exactly what it's all the bout. dare i said, the green shoots of recovery from lockdown. let me run you through the system, this garden centre in dorset which has been closed for eight weeks. people will arrive, grab a trolley to keep distancing. you can see what they've done, they've decided backwards, taking it from a template. spacing is you can see, they will allow 50 trolleys in which will be 100 people, disinfectant of course on the hands and the way in. let us take you in. the usual things you would expect to see in a garden centre. all of the seeds, all of the tools, not that motorised wheelbarrow you are talking about. they want people to browse on line because this business has kept going on line for the last few weeks and with telephone orders before they get here. some of the other items, the homewares that are often for sale in garden centres, that has all been taped off so that is not for sale at the moment so it is very much the plants, the perishable goods if you like. also a large cafe here that normally does a roaring trade this time of year. that will be closed off as well so people are coming and getting the essentials as they come through. good morning, mike. take us through. hope you are well. it's been quite an exercise, hasn't it? redesigning the garden centre. tell us how you've done it. with in working with protocols with agreed on with government still had guidelines to work too. what we've doneis guidelines to work too. what we've done is involved the staff the whole time in the process. everyone feels comfortable. we rehearsed going through the routes through the centre. to make sure everybody knows to keep the metres away. it's built up to keep the metres away. it's built up very nicely. we found out pinch points in the whole process. we discovered where we have to improve the flow. and where we might have to make changes. some signs everywhere of course. on the ground. into our queueing system. keeping people apart. who is versed in the queue. walking through some really lovely displays. the plants look fantastic. we had lots of dire warnings the pla nts were we had lots of dire warnings the plants were going to be thrown away wholesale. has that happened? from out wholesale. has that happened? from our point of view, we've been able to work with the local schools, giving clients to them. everything going over, we've been giving them to nursing homes and also to hospitals, to nhs staff, and to charities who been putting them to good use. the difficulty is for our growers who have had an extremely tough time and its then we are most concerned about in the industry. they have such a short time in which to ply their trade in these weeks we are in the middle of now are absolutely crucial. it's your christmas. good morning, louise. looking forward to seeing people in the flesh again? lots of outside space. we know that is very helpful. it's an important business for people's mental health. we've done lots of stories on bbc breakfast on how beneficial to mental health gardening is. even over the last eight weeks. we've stayed open when financially we probably would have been better closing but the reason we've done that is we think gardening is one of the solution to keeping people at home. it's great for mental health, greater physical health. so it's a fantastic thing to do. slightly odd, different from the way we do things. but i think it's important to give you an idea of the sort of thing that is happening, just at this garden centre obviously but 2500 of them across the uk. english can open today, welsh from monday. but things have been working very well there. northern ireland and scotland we will have to see as they start to come out of lot down when those garden centres open. this one opens at nine o'clock later this morning. let's see what the customers make of it then. there will probably be a queue because people really want to get there. thank you very much, john.|j people really want to get there. thank you very much, john. i could do with a bit of compost myself. what was the question, louise? this is the £1 million on millionaire. gp andrew townsley went home with 500 grand. and history of motorsport which of these iconic races held first, le mans 24—hour, monaco grand prix, indy 500 or isle of man tt. first, le mans 24—hour, monaco grand prix, indy 500 or isle of man tti would go for tt, says michael. michael has one £1 million. you did. it's the isle of man tt. would you have risked it all? some primary schoolchildren in england could be back in their classrooms in less than three weeks. and if we want to know how on earth young children and social distancing rules might work, we can look to denmark. schools there reopened a month ago. our europe correspondent jean mackenzie has been talking to staff and pupils at one of them. it's been hard to not hug each other. if you can't hug each other, you have to yourself. keeping kids apart requires some imagination. i'm not worried about the virus at all. and they came back, we had lots of activities to try and make them not worry but they did worry so we had to give up on that. it wasn't needed? not at all. the school has been cleverly withdrawn switched child only comes into contact with a very small number of children. normally they sit two and two. you have the class of 20 that's been cut down to two groups of ten, that's what you have the plastic. because those two groups aren't allowed to move? exactly. when they are going outside on the brakes, we have to divide those groups into even smaller groups. so the kidsjust have four other children they are allowed to play with and they are only given one part of the playground they are allowed to be in. my name is sky, i'm seven years old. we keep our distance when we play. we can't play catch. what do you play instead ? play. we can't play catch. what do you play instead? hula hoop. it might be a little bit boring but they are also good at telling each other, remember, you're not supposed to go there. and there is a lot of this. how many times do you wash your hands today? lots. denmark reopened primary schools very early on. as was feared the infection rate would rise and initially did, but it's back down again and with so many parents and work here, this was a targeted risk. if we have to get the economy moving again, then we have to get the kids back into not only schools but also daycare to try to enhance productivity for those forced still to work at home. to enhance productivity for those forced still to work at homem to enhance productivity for those forced still to work at home. it was a challenge to do yourjob while having him home. it is much more easy for me to concentrate. i have a i’ow easy for me to concentrate. i have a row of ours where i can just work. lot of parents wrote to me that they had some kind of concerns, a few parents had some concerns that they wouldn't let the child come in the first week. after two weeks, it was the kids at home who said why can't igo? the kids at home who said why can't i go? this, they said, was impossible, children's social distancing. now it might not be school as they know it but they are making it work. this is a danish song, the direct translation is, when the light returns. it's back. what is very interesting to see is how other countries are doing things faster or earlier than we are, to see how things work or don't work and that's really fascinating to see those children. when we've been speaking to government investors, there is that admission that there are other small countries around the world watching closely what other people are trying and how they are changing things depending on what the reaction is across the population. one of the top priorities during the coronavirus outbreak has been getting supplies to where they are needed. now, on the isle of wight, they're using a new drone service to deliver to their only nhs hospital. the unmanned aircraft has been brought into service four years early so things like ppe can be sent to the island quickly. duncan kennedy has been to see it in action. mid—air, mid solent, midway to the isle of wight to land vital hospital equipment. this is britain's first drone medical supply service. delivering protective clothing in the covid—19 crisis to the island's only nhs hospital. called a wind raises ultra, it's a massive autonomous aircraft that is remote—controlled and with the cargo hold the size of an estate car boot. it's capable of carrying a very significant payload of 100 kilos for 1000 kilometres and it's capable of flying at nearly 100 miles per hour so flying at nearly 100 miles per hour so it's relatively fast and most importantly, it's cheap. the drone was originally designed to deliver food to remote areas of africa but southampton university and a consortium of companies called solent transport have combined to adapt it, remove supplies and ppe to the isle of wight at the request of the isle of wight at the request of the government. it needs a runway no longer than a football pitch to take off and land. and it's quick, taking only ten minutes to fly over the solent. fully safety tested, capable of flying in all weathers on the one engine or none. it both fail, it can glide to land or float on water. when it touches down on the island, its suppliers are taken the short journey to st mary's hospital. in britain, this is the first of its type, we are the first people to have done a flight beyond a visual line of sight and deliver medical facilities between hospitals. what we are trying to do is provide a really useful, timely service that can provide vast transport of urgent, time sensitive goods. drone wasn't supposed to be fully operationalfor another wasn't supposed to be fully operational for another four years. it's been given special permission by the civil aviation authority get our born. this is an incredible. the isle of wight. not only is it the test bed for the government's new covid—19 smartphone app is also the destination for this highly sophisticated drone. two types of cutting edge to ology, set to work on this coronavirus crisis. the island's hovercraft and ferry services are still running but on a reduced service. while continuing to be used by the nhs, to transport supplies for patients. what is the drone any match of a helicopter, which can also travel quickly to the island. helicopters are very expensive and we need to use a helicopter for saving a life but the drone can back that up. the drone is a workhorse. the covid-19 story has driven invention, change and creativity. this drone can try and explain drone combines all three, a new air bridge of hi—tech innovation. duncan kennedy, bbc news. a lovely day for a drone flight there. it's pretty chilly again this morning. sarah has all the details. yes, chilly day, particularly across parts of scotland and northern england, temperatures below zero. a bit more cloud around. this is the picture in norfolk. this one was taken. most picture in norfolk. this one was ta ken. most places picture in norfolk. this one was taken. most places are looking generally dry with sunshine. a few showers on the cards. some of those showers on the cards. some of those showers on the north—east of the uk, a bit wintry at times. we are still in that cold air at the moment. sitting out towards the west year. a cold front has worked its way south overnight, bringing chilly abbott also a line of cloud and a few showers around, particularly across parts of england and wales, the odd light shower this morning. cloud melting away in the south and a lot of dry weather with sunshine but still, those wintry showers lingering across the bar north—east of scotland, maybe towards the pennines and the north york moors. sunny spells elsewhere but temperatures below par for this time of year. most of us, 11—111. temperatures below par for this time of year. most of us, 11—14. quite a brisk wind as well. through the english channel as well. most of the cloud melts away, cloudy across the north of scotland but under those clear skies, we are expecting another cold night. temperatures again below freezing. frost for us first thing but are largely dry day with a lot of sunshine, more cloud across northern scotland sinking south. cloud tending to build throughout the day, so that cloud bubbling up. temperature is warmer than we had earlier today, around 11— 15 degrees tomorrow, sunny spells for most, chances of isolated showers. still busyin chances of isolated showers. still busy in the english channel. i day, winds in the south tend to ease, one or two showers, but without high pressure largely in charge, it is a mostly dry day. some song about. by the time we get to friday those temperatures will be a little bit more typicalfor this temperatures will be a little bit more typical for this time of year, so more typical for this time of year, so about 13— 17 degrees for most of us on so about 13— 17 degrees for most of us on friday. things are staying largely settled as we head into the weekend, from the south we have this area of high pressure building in. you will notice low pressure across parts of scotland, that will bring more cloud, perhaps the mavericks range in northern scotland and ireland, especially as we get into sunday. before saturday, most of us are looking dry. those temperatures are looking dry. those temperatures are starting to increase through the weekend, we could see 20 degrees in one or two spots in the south—east. a lot of dry, settled weather. next week looks warmer than this week. sarah, thank you very much to you. hello this is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. it's 6:30am. we'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning. golf courses in england are among the businesses allowed to reopen from today. we'll be live at a clubhouse to see how they're helping members to stay safe and avoid any penalties. like a choreographed ballet, people are moving as though they have repellents between them. it's a good idea for a musical number, at least. we've got another treat for eurovision fans today, as bjorn from abba tells us how he's been coping with covid—19. look, you've deliberately picked your shabby best sack to go out again. why? so, iask you your shabby best sack to go out again. why? so, i ask you and you can sell them, your husband's a tyrant! and we'll talk to coronation street actors ian bartholomew and shelley king, as geoff's abuse of yasmeen reaches boiling point. good morning. here's a summary of today's main stories from bbc news. builders and factory workers in england are among those being encouraged to return to certain jobs from today as the government guides to ease lockdown restrictions. the prime minister borisjohnson says people should walk, cycle or drive to work — if they can't work from home — and only take public transport as a last resort. in wales, scotland and northern ireland, the message remains to "stay at home". millions of self—employed people whose business has been affected by coronavirus can now apply for government grants from today. the self—employed income support scheme would see money paid into the accounts of eligible people, six days after they apply. it's designed to match the support provided to employees through the furlough scheme, which was extended until october yesterday. childminders in england can reopen from today if they are caring for children from the same household. the government made the announcement last night, following confusion about the rules. during lockdown, registered childminders have either been closed or providing care for vulnerable children, or children of key workers. just after 630, if you —— will be answering some of those questions after 6:30am. time now for our regular appointment with a gp. doctor farrah sheikh joins us from manchester. we should we start today? many people in england are being encouraged to go back to work and they also told if they are to go on public transport, to use a facial covering. let's talk about what that is and what sort of advice you give to people? what i would suggest is if you can get a facial covering, that's brilliant. i know there is a massive shortage across the whole world regarding ppe, buti massive shortage across the whole world regarding ppe, but i know in the bbc website that a tutorial on how to make your own masks. so it would be useful to be able to do that. you can use an old t—shirt or a bandanna and you don't actually need to do any sewing, which i was quite surprised about. you can just used sewing pens. there is information on the bbc website about that. so the idea of using a mask is to prevent the virus from entering your body through the nose or mouth. so you are protected to some degree from the virus so it would be useful to do that, particularly if you are needing to use public transport. they are also saying of course we need to keep remembering about hand sanitisation and washing your hands. definitely. the most important thing you can do is to wash your hands regularly stopped 20 seconds every time. so, whenever you are going out and coming home, making sure you are washing your hands and if you don't have access to water, use alcohol gel. so i am using that a lot. let's talk about face coverings as well, the recommendation is not to use them with children under two and to ta ke them with children under two and to take care if you have breathing difficulties, presumably? yes. with children it is difficult to keep a mask on them or a facial covering. i have been trying with my two—year—old daughter and she is forever pulling it down or touching it. so it kind of defeats the purpose of using it. if your child is older and understands you can wear it and it's important to wear it, then definitely encourage them to do that and talk to them about the virus. some of them are quite frightened, so it's worth mentioning to them that they need to protect themselves. should we also talk about the fact that in england people can exercise for as long as they like and also meet one person outside at a safe distance of two metres. that will make a difference to people, won't it? it will make a huge difference, particularly to everybody‘s mental health. we have all been stuck indoors or however many weeks and now being able to spend more time outside, hopefully the weather will hold out as well. if you can, still trying to stay as a home —— stay at home as much as possible because that will limit your chances of developing coronavirus, but if you can take advantage of the ability to exercise more, decrease your risk of heart disease, diabetes, heart disease, i know a lot of people are eating a lot more than they usually would because a lot of people are just sitting at home. so if you can get off those extra pounds by doing exercise, go for it. yes, people aren't walking to the shops or schools to do drop off, there are lots of things we were unable to do and still aren't as denmark most of us are and still aren't as denmark most of us are saving a good amount of time, so us are saving a good amount of time, so why not use that extra time to get a little bit fitter? tell us about what you have seen in your surgery, about what you have seen in your surgery, what are people's concerns? have you seen a rise in mental health issues? we have seen a significant rise in mental health issues, particularly in people that don't tend to suffer from mental health problems. so, it's a lot of anxiety. a lot of it is the unknown. we would have expected to know, i think a lot of us were waiting on sunday for some good news, that life could return back to normal but it just doesn't seem that way. so the anxiety of not knowing when we could go back to our normal lives is playing a massive part in people's mental health. and people can access services at the moment if they are feeling like that? there are a lot of information sources on the nhs website, cognitive behavioural therapy can be done online. have a look at the nhs website. if you need further advice contact your gp. your gp surgeries are all aware of social prescribing, that's about accessing services local to your area. get online or contact your gp for further information. it doesn't feel like it this morning but someone will hopefully be on its way. do you think that will help with people not getting coronavirus as much as they have been? i'm hoping so. i hope as the weather improves the coronavirus will hopefully disappear and be a distant memory for us of. thank you very much for your time this morning on breakfast this morning, farrah sheikh. golf courses in england can reopen today and those in wales will follow suit on monday. people will be very excited for their tee time stock have you booked your tee time? no, i'll be busy homeschooling. and because of social distancing, players will need to get to grips with even more rules than usual. sally is at a course in greater manchester to find out more. the morning! —— good morning!|j the morning! -- good morning! i have to tell you it's really lovely to be outside in this most beautiful setting here at this golf club, where they have been preparing to openin where they have been preparing to open in the next hour or so for keen golfers who have been missing playing. but as you can see the clubhouse behind me will not be open. the bodies you can see there, you can only use a buggy with someone you can only use a buggy with someone that you live with —— the buggies there. you can't share one with people you don't live with, and we know the big deal is you cannot play around today with someone you don't share a household with. let me talk you through what the situation is. as you mentioned, golf courses only in england are open today. in northern ireland and scotland they are yet to reopen. we know well to golf courses are opening on monday. if you play golf, you can play today with up to three people that you live with stop so, three people in your household can play golf today. you can also play a round of golf today with one person you don't live with, perhaps someone you haven't been able to see for some time. you can play a round of golf today as long as you maintain social distancing at all times. it's been really tricky for the golf clubs, trying to maintain everything, keep everything in order. as you can see here is absolutely beautiful. the bunkers, this bunker here is meticulously needed at the moment, you won't be able to go in and rake a bunker, that is one of the rules. you won't be able to touch a flag. there are several rules. i'm going to talk to chris melton now. good morning, chris. he is on the executive committee here. you know all about the rules and regulations for today and what it's like people getting back on the course. alkene use are you to play again? we are extremely keen to get back into the routine, get families and friends back together on the course. not forgetting at this club we have lost three members to covid—19. one of the committee members was on a ventilator for ten days. so getting back and seeing faces is something everyone is looking forward to, you know, 50 minutes before and 15 minutes afterwards. so it's not going to be exactly like how it was. getting people in and out of the course, what rules have you put in place today? the biggest rule is not a rule, it isjust asking people to be sensible to keep your social distance and accept although we are back up the course, it's not going to be the same as it was before for quite a long time. you can use the toilet but the doors remain open, sanitiser points all over the place, you can't collect your clubs yourself, lots of things that are really just yourself, lots of things that are reallyjust asking people to use their common sense. you mentioned of course that sadly this club has lost members to covid—19. how important is it for a club like this and clubs up is it for a club like this and clubs up and down in england for people's mental health, to be able to get together a little bit, be outside and take some exercise? yeah, well, i'm no expert but speaking for myself, you can go a bit they're crazy. i've been out of the house three times in five weeks. communication, across zoom is not the same as speaking face—to—face. and you have been working through things globally. your son is a doctor? billy is a doctor in sheffield, i haven't seen him except on zoom for six weeks. he is coming over to play on sunday. only one of us can play with him. he will be playing with his brother and i will be playing behind them on the next tee. so, it's different but we are enormously grateful that people have seen enormously grateful that people have seen the value of getting out and about for a bit of sunlight and trying to slowly get back to normal. chris, it's lovely to talk to you. i hope you enjoy getting back to your golf and come back to us later in the programme when we will be showing a momentous moment. we have the first golfers to tee at 7:a5am this morning. netting back to some sort of normality even if it is in isina is in a very limited way. thank you for that, sally. we will be back later on. —— getting back to normality even if it is in a limited way. just getting outside. and being able to get into a golf course and obeying rules and everything is great to see. and a fresh air breeze. seriously we've already heard this morning seriously about the impact of coronavirus on school children. let's now go up a few years and consider what it's doing to young adults at the start of their careers. with many apprenticeships and junior positions being cut — and a lack of savings to fall back on — this group are at less physical risk from covid—19 but they're more vulnerable to its economic damage. radio one newsbeat reporter kirsty grant sent this report. gemma is 16. she was a year into her hairdressing apprenticeship when she was let go just before the lockdown. i was quite far to it. i was starting to cut hair, learn about colour theory and i was shampooing and got called upstairs. it sounds so and got called upstairs. it sounds so dramatic. i felt truly heartbroken because it was also perfect for me. i struggled at school, i left school and had this apprenticeship and was like, this is amazing, i'm finally getting to learn. gemma has got the support of the family but is having worried about finding a new salon to com plete about finding a new salon to complete apprenticeship one of the ip. according to the association of employment and learning providers 60% of employers have stopped recruiting apprentices entirely. 60% of employers have stopped recruiting apprentices entirelylj recruiting apprentices entirely.” don't know what to do anymore, it's all very unexpected. you are going to be so lost with nothing to find after, it's just so difficult. amelia was made redundant from her marketing firm just before the lockdown. she is 23. it was a bit of a shock. i didn't really know how to react. she is isolating with her boyfriend who is helping support them both. she says she wasn't offered furlough because a company told her they didn't want to use the government scheme. i've been told i'm 0k government scheme. i've been told i'm ok but i managed to stretch my last paycheck or paycheck and a half. obviously that is, it will dwindle eventually. 26-year-old jared is a 12 self—employed tree surgeon. jared is a 12 self—employed tree surgeon. like about 650,000 other people he's not been eligible for the government's support scheme that are self—employed because he only started this business last summer. i'm very fortunate to have the support families so my grandmother has sent me some money. my mother sends me £100 per month. technically jarrod can go back to work now the government has eased its restrictions this week but they say people are not seeking his services at the moment so he will have to claim universal credit. we would not be able to survive if we couldn't claim that stop rent is paid for, we got enough money. jarrod, jim and amelia are dealing with the immediate impact of the crisis but the big challenge for them may be the big challenge for them may be the longer term prospects. if you live in england and have a job that can't be done from home, then you may well be going back to work today. naturally, that's causing some fears over safety. sean's in our newsroom with more on this for us. guidance for difference sectors will could operate anyway. —— covering various sectors who could have operated anyway in the last few weeks but may be for one reason or another, the bosses there have decided not to. these guidelines will encourage businesses. hearing about those more in ourwork businesses. hearing about those more in our work bases. other things like hollowing, cleaning, hygiene rules, staying two metres apart. the things in official guidelines. frances o'grady is with me. general secretary of the trades union congress and joins me from north london. what do you make of the guidelines? we say it was a step in the right direction. the important thing is that employers are required to do a risk assessment, that they are required to consult the unions in the workforce. it's notjust the work force that will be harmed. it's whole communities. this is at least a step forward. the real test will be delivery. one problems as we had real confusion on sunday with people being told that they should be back at work on monday or was it wednesday without any real plan what that into childcare, for shielded workers. it was chaotic. i think where we've got to now with the chancellor's announcement is that thejob retention scheme chancellor's announcement is that the job retention scheme that provides that wage subsidy to ensure that workers get at least 80% of their income, will continue to the autumns that gives a breathing space for employers to get this right to doa for employers to get this right to do a proper health and safety assessment in making workplace say. sort out those really basic questions. if i don't have childcare, if i have to use public transport or i have health vulnerability. we will talk bit more about thejob vulnerability. we will talk bit more about the job retention scheme. just about the job retention scheme. just a little more on workers may be going in for the first time today. if you feel uncomfortable, what would you expect? would they look around and say, these things aren't in place when they should be.“ they are a union member, they should get onto their union, the risk assessment should be published on the website so people should know what steps their employers are taking in consultation with the unions, if there isn't a union, to make that workplace safe. if they got worries, there is a health and safety executive hotline to call. it's important to remember workers do have that right in law not to work, if it would put the minimum danger. there will be a lot of people who want to get back to work and just want to get on with it. is there a danger that businesses and workers could be overly cautious in this situation you and we end up with businesses going bust and people losing theirjobs because of the damage of confidence because it wasn't necessary in the first place. we need to remember millions of people have worked through this crisis. it's really important for jobs and livelihood as well as a health and well—being. i think everybody wants to see that. the question is, how do we do it in a sensible stage way that doesn't end up sensible stage way that doesn't end up with a second spike in the virus, that puts a sore back to square one. that's why we really have to be careful and thoughtful and sensible. we got lots of good agreements with decent employers, right across the economy but we have to recognise there are some rogue employers out there. we get reports every day of people being overcrowded. we had a lot from the prime minister about social distancing in the outside. the infection spread is more likely to spread in enclosed spaces. that's is even more important to be tough on safety rules and be tough on enforcement, otherwise it risks us all. let's talk about the job retention scheme, the government subsidising wages. up until the end ofjune. they previously said that's extended until the end ofjuly in the scheme will go into october, for another four months. we don't know the details yet of how much businesses will be expected to contribute to the scheme. we can actually hear a bit from peter kinsella, a restaurant owner, who is furloughed most of his staff. also pleased to see the furlough scheme will be further extended until october. that will contain some sort of raising of bolo payments. we are bit worried in terms of what contribution will take that with limited opening. generating the revenue to meet the wages of the limited number of workers who will be working at that point. the hospitality sector, there is not a lot of light at the end of the tunnel. for them to survive. would you like to see different set is treated differently by the chancellor? i think the truth is, we're going to do. hospitality and aviation, for example. we kept in close contact with the chancellor. it's good that scheme has been extended. of course we will need to see the detail but i'm particularly pleased there will be new flexibilities in the scheme. so that workers can return on a part—time basis and phase those hours. it's particularly important in areas like manufacturing, spreading the word, keep as many people as close to the workplace as possible but do it in a dazed way so we can get back on our feet. but i think what is clear, there are industries that will be in real trouble and we will need to look specifically at what their future is and how we make sure they have a future and people's jobs are protected. i was listening to your package earlier, there is a whole generation of young people. the future is being scarred by this crisis? we've been pressing for a jobs guarantee scheme? opportunities for young people and they don't end up for young people and they don't end up on the dole for too long? the impact it has on the generation of workers. the scheme for the housing kicks off today, the housing market will be open and i will be talking about that in an hours time. we will be speaking to the transport secretary about people going to work today but lots of questions about the reopening of the housing market. people saying, potential buyers, renters, childminders. members of the family who live in a different household. you've can still have time, that is at 7:30pm. the weather is chilly, i can tell you. many people have been doing gardening recently. a bit of frost around, quite a chilly start of the day. northern england into wales. temperatures below freezing. beautiful sun around. for most of us through today, largely dry with spells of sunshine. some showers around. some of them a bit wintry a lot of dry weather. the pressure we still have the remnants of the cold front. you could get the odd spot of light drizzle with this line of crowd. that cloud tending to fizzle away towards the south. most places drive it there will be those rogue showers for the north—east of scotland. most places avoiding most of those showers. particularly the likes of kent and english channel. 11-14 likes of kent and english channel. 11—14 for most of us. many were stuck in single figures. most of the day time cloud. clear skies, fairly light winds in the south and east coast. another cold night out there we re coast. another cold night out there were temperatures below freezing. across northern england. patchy rain. this is a warm front across scotla nd rain. this is a warm front across scotland bringing more cloud on thursday, slowly slipping south. also more cloud into northern ireland. tippett is a little bit warmer than today, about 11— 15 degrees and we are starting to lose the cold wind. starting to warm up a little bit. friday, high pressure. one of two showers across the far north—west of scotland, lighter winds around the east coast and southern parts of england, sunny spells but more cloud is developing, temperatures up to about 17 degrees in the warmest spots. as high pressure continues to build into the weekend, a lot more dry settled weather on the cards. there will the weather on the cards. there will the weather fronts moving weather on the cards. there will the weatherfronts moving into the north, bringing some rain across northern parts of the uk, particularly by sunday. good morning. welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. our headlines today: the easing of lockdown begins in england, as we are encouraged to go back to work. but the advice in scotland, wales and northern ireland is still to stay at home. people who are travelling to work are urged to avoid public transport. those who need to use it should wear face coverings and keep their distance from other passengers. the english housing market is being restarted — buyers and renters can visit estate agents and view properties. however things like those removal is going to work in reality? i'll be speaking to an estate agent before 8am. golf clubs are reopening in england and players are desperate to get back on the course. it's wednesday the 13th of may. our top story: builders and factory workers in england are among those being encouraged to return to work from today as the government starts to ease lockdown restrictions. the prime minister is also allowing those of us in england to spend unlimited time in parks and public spaces, and to do some outdoor sports. in wales, scotland and northern ireland, the message remains to "stay at home". charlotte rose reports. it's back to work for some in england today. in wales, scotland and northern ireland, the message remains "stay at home". but on sunday night, the prime minister said he was "actively encouraging" people in england who could not work from home to return to theirjobs from today. it means employers have had a short time to prepare workplaces for a new world of social distancing. all of us want to get britain back to work safely, that's really important for jobs and to work safely, that's really important forjobs and livelihoods as well as our health and wellbeing. though i think everybody wants to see data. the question is, how do we do that in a sensible, staged way that doesn't end up with a second spike in the virus that puts us all back to square one. although people are being encouraged to cycle, walk or use their own cars to get to work, there are fears of high demand for public transport, which could lead to long queues. leaders of all of the major rail unions wrote to the government earlier this month saying they had severe concerns about attempts to increase the frequency and capacity of services. but despite this limited reopening in england, the doors of many businesses will remain firmly closed. yesterday, the chancellor announced he was extending the government's furlough scheme. it means the government will continue to pay 80% of the wages of 7.5 million britons until the end ofjuly, and will then pay a reducing portion of wages until the end of october. this is an expensive scheme, and i've said that before, but i also believe it's absolutely the right thing to do. and what's very clear to me is the cost of not doing this, for society, for our economy, for our country, would be far higher. yesterday, 627 people died from covid—19 in hospitals, care homes or at home. although it's an increase on the previous day's figure, overall, both the number of deaths and infections is falling across the uk. and there's some positive news for those who aren't at work, from today in england, garden centres will reopen and people will be allowed to do outdoors sports like golf or tennis as long as they keep apart. you're also allowed to meet with one person from outside your household in an open space as long as you maintain a two—metre distance. for homebuyers or renters looking to move, house viewings can now restart. and for all the nations, once—daily exercise has been expanded to unlimited daily exercise. today marks a small, cautious step, for some people, on the road to reopening the country. charlotte rose, bbc news. charlotte is at canning town station in east london. good morning to you, charlotte. charlotte, are there many commuters this morning? well, canning town would normally be a hugely busy transport harbour. it has a tube station, the docklands light railway, and a bus station behind me. of course, we are not in normal times at the moment. it has been fairly quiet early this morning but it is starting to get busier. of the buses you can see behind me are empty because they have just dropped people off at the bus station. i have seen some buses which are full to capacity arriving with every seat taken. so to capacity arriving with every seat ta ken. so it's to capacity arriving with every seat taken. so it's absolutely impossible for some people to remain metres apart. on the two platform to my right i can see people are managing to stand two metres apart and there have announcements coming over, reminding people to try to keep two metres apart and observe signs on the floor without telling where they should and stop now the government has been urging people in the run—up to today do not use public transport to today do not use public transport to get to work they possibly can, asking them to walk, cycle or use their own cars. but for many people travelling this morning, this will be their only means of getting to work. so they are being urged to ta ke work. so they are being urged to take extra precautions, keeping their distance, wearing a face mask or covering, trying to use co nta ctless or covering, trying to use contactless payments if they can and if that is available, and also to try and make sure they wash their hands before and after travelling. for many people, they will be working for the first time in seven weeks, so this will be an opportunity to see if this new system and these new rules can work and if people feel safe. charlotte rosein and if people feel safe. charlotte rose in canning town, running through the challenges of people getting back to work today. our political correspondent, iain watson, is in westminster this morning. there are changes about the house market, people going outside, and we know there has been a virtual parliament, what about that? well, that's right, the housing market getting under way in england today. it will being encouraged to go back to work. another house is proving much more controversial, the house of commons behind me, the leader jacob rees—mogg said matters should go back to the cut and thrust debate. mps have been popping up on video links on big screens to question ministers while they are staying in their homes in their constituencies. he suggesting mps should set an example and at the end of this mother after the second may bank holiday, they should return to the house of commons and switch those big screens off. that's controversial because it depends what example mps should be setting, should they be saying go back to work today, and mps should do the same, or should they still be saying if it is that all possible, continue to work from home? some mps including the labour opposition say this is a mixed message and it should be said by parliamentarians to stay home if they can't. they also concerned about the welfare of staff at westminster, so that brings you the bigger debate from the tuc about how safe workplaces can be. that applies to the house of commons as much as anywhere else. iain watson, thank you very much and we will talk to you later to let you know. later we will be speaking to the transport secretary, grant shapps. this person died seven weeks after being spat on at victoria station in march. she was a lovely person with a lot of potential, very caring, loved and always there for anyone. she came back from work and she told us about this meeting. somebody spat on her when she was working. somebody approached them and said "why are you here? you should be working." she said" we have the work." he said he had covid—19 and spat on her. millions of self—employed people whose business has been affected by coronavirus can apply for government grants from today. the self employed income support scheme would see money paid into the accounts of eligible people, six days after they apply. it's designed to match the support provided to employees through the furlough scheme, which was extended until october yesterday. childminders in england can reopen from today if they are caring for children from the same household. the government made the announcement last night, following confusion about the rules. during lockdown, registered childminders have either been closed or providing care for vulnerable children or children of key workers. so in the last few minutes we have the latest official figures on how the latest official figures on how the uk economy performed in the first three months of the year. really important to have a look at them. someone i can tell us what's going on. good morning. the remainderof even going on. good morning. the remainder of even though we have people going back to work on the housing market opening up, to have a look at what the economy is going through at the moment. and in the la st through at the moment. and in the last few weeks and months. these statistics from the national office for statistics, january and march. the major changes came in near the end of that, but the economy shrank 296 end of that, but the economy shrank 2% in the period of time. that's the most the economy has fallen inside since the end of 2008. an can drill down into different parts of the economy, the services sector felled by its most on record. household spending fell by the most in that period of time since the financial crisis as well. and this is just with those changes coming in at the end of march. so it tells us that what we are going through is having a big effect on the economy and what businesses are doing and what that will have as an effect on jobs in the future as well. it also gives us an idea of what will happen in the months to come, because we know we have been under more extreme social constrictions throughout april and may, and it's a real reflection. the changes are unprecedented, policies we are seeing from the government have been needed to put in place in certain sectors because the economy has taken such a hit in spending and services across the board. construction, manufacturing, they are all having a difficult time in those last few weeks of march which are impacting these figures we are seeing today. the first three months of the year, the uk economy shrank the most since 2008 stop thanks for looking through those figures, sean and looking into the implications. many countries across europe are beginning to lift lockdowns as the death toll in the region eases, amidst concern doing this too soon could cause a second wave of infections. germany has seen a rise in the rate the virus is spreading there after lifting restrictions — although the scientific body advising the german government said it was not concerned. our europe reporter gavin leejoins us now to give us the latest. good morning to you. could you run us through some of the changes we are seeing in various countries across europe? there are more than 20 european countries now that are making significant steps towards easing the lockdown. let's start with germany. germany has said let's see how things go as we monitor. the shops and hotels and restaurants, and the bundesliga football clubs, people can watch them on tv, you can't go into the stadium. that rate of reproduction, how many people pass the virus on to, has risen to about one. they say they expect that to fluctuate but if it continues to rise in the next few days they will have to rethink that. poland is interesting. coalminers have ever taken care homes as the biggest source taken care homes as the biggest source of spread for infection —— over taken care homes as the biggest source over taken care homes as the biggest source of spread for infection. there have been four mines shut down there. oh, 500 miners have been infected. we had this morning from a swiss broadcast, saying that in a month's time, germany, austria and france will open up internal borders to each other. here in belgium they are getting used to what is called high street social shopping distancing. so you have one lane on one side of the street and mandatory sanitising, police and security watching as well, and look at these images from france yesterday. the school is open for primary levels and grace as well, this is the art of social distancing for the little ones, a school by the belgian border. a chalk square that children are told to stay inside. inside it is cordoned off with tape. no more than ten in a class. i'm told by the reporter, all of the little ones we re reporter, all of the little ones were relatively happy. they weren't too disturbed by it. i guess this is something that might be looked at elsewhere as a possible example of how to start again? much to die just there. gavin lee from brussels this morning giving us a picture on what is happening in other european countries. we'll be talking about the reopening of garden centres this morning but here's one item of horticultural hardware you won't find on sale. a little bit chilly this morning but this is hugely significant the people in england who don't have access to the luxury of their own open space. people who live in apartments. they've only been able to come to places like this once a day. they can't sit down and have a picnic. the lovely we have weather we had last week. we still do have to keep two metres apart. you've been living with your baby six months old. presley and dad john. what has knocked on been like for you? it was alwaysjust me and presley but we decided the best thing was for dad to move in with us and our cousin decided she wanted to come as well so we've gone from having two of us in our little apartment having four of us. it's quite crowded. without any access to open space, what's it been like? quite hard on days that are sunny. you can go for a walk with her but you can't stop, you can't sit down and enjoys sunshine. john has done a makeshift garden, with the door open. that's as far as we get a garden. you can go for a walk once a day up until now. but you can'tjust sit. it was quite difficult with a six—month—old. sit. it was quite difficult with a six-month-old. she is at a stage where she needs entertaining. staying in the house all the time isn't fantastic. being in the buggy, it isn't entertaining anymore either. you said she was glad to see other people. exactly. that's one of my biggest worries. not able to socialise with people. when i go back to work and she goes back to nursery, slightly anxious about that. what is the first thing you are going to do, where are you going to go? now we found this space, it is quiet. it's been rubbish weather up is quiet. it's been rubbish weather up until the lockdown. feel the grass and enjoyed being outside because she is not done it yet. it's incredible to think about that, enjoy. she's alone of course. reno, we talk about working from home, you live above your work. we do. we got two children and on top of our cafe we are in the same position, it's a flat, we don't have an outside space so flat, we don't have an outside space so from now on, being outside with the children is going to be amazing. and taking them to the park, letting them run around. until now, they run around the cafe. we've taken out for around the cafe. we've taken out for a walk every day that they need a space like this, they need parks to run around in. a binder girl, they've got energy to burn. they have been so good with the homeschooling and they've been so good with playing games with us and being indoors, but obviously they need to start seeing may be their friends if they can, if they happen to be in the park and wave at them from a distance. that's going to be very, very good for them. but in terms of work, nothing just yet. it's still not same for us to invite people into the cafe. even if it is a takeaway, feel it's just not safe enough. just thinking aboutjune maybe. a few hours a day for ta keaway maybe. a few hours a day for takeaway coffee but we are a very, very busy cafe and ijust don't takeaway coffee but we are a very, very busy cafe and i just don't see that happening anytime soon for us. it's a difficult time but hopefully we will get to enjoy a bit more of the outdoors. thank you very much. it's a great opportunity to be outdoors a bit more. you can go out twice a day. keep two metres apart. so how will the new changes to lockdown in england be policed? we're nowjoined by martin hewitt, chair of the national police chiefs' council. you can just see from that report, how much difference it is going to make to go to the park. but also we know that you are only meant to meet one person from another households are how will you be able to police that? i think the first thing is that? i think the first thing is that we have to police the lockdown measures from the very beginning by working with the public and the vast majority of the public have abided by the rules and that's why we are ina by the rules and that's why we are in a position now that the government has been able to release the lockdown rules. so we will do what we've done from the beginning which is engaged with people, explain the rules. all of us are having to learn the rules in seven weeks ago i was talking about new rules on this programme and we have the changes again. we will explain and encourage people, if they are not out for a legitimate reason, encourage them to go home and it will be as a last resort that we have to enforce them which is in fa ct we have to enforce them which is in fact we how it's worked over the last seven weeks. the public will work with us, they will talk to members of the public and everyone will carry on working in that spirit. when you've been having those conversations, either yourself or people you work with, they're normally an understanding because the government talked a lot about commonsense, is there an understanding they do understand the rules but they are trying not to push the boundaries but they can while maintaining health and social distance but also trying to do what they can? has that been what you've seen they can? has that been what you've seen during these conversations?” think so. although the united kingdom, there's been tens and tens of thousands of engagements of people across the country over the last few weeks. it's been tough the people. but i think everyone wants to try and understand the rules. everyone wants to get that time outside. any majority of cases, they listened and were it's appropriate. i'm pretty sure that will carry on. i really encourage people to look at the new regulations. it does give a lot more freedom for a lot more activities, but a lot of that guidance and advice, social distancing, it's not for the police to police people to metres apart. i think people have by and large been responsible but if there are those people who refuse to abide by the regulations, we will move to enforcement if that's what we have to do. and in situations where you've had to enforce the rules, what has it been for? one the largest issues around people congregating in coming together in groups and coming together in groups still remains against the regulations. that is the one i would ask people to focus on. that's great ask people to focus on. that's great as long as those people are abiding by the regulations and maintaining that social distance when people are in their household but largely around groups and under the old regulations, people travelling very long distances to go to different places and all i would say is, everybody should make use of the new freedoms that are there because we all worked really hard over the last seven weeks to contain the virus and we are starting to achieve that but i would ask everyone to think responsibly about the excursion you're about to make in trouble you're about to make in trouble you're about to make, the exercise of creation. always think about maintaining that distance so we achieve the aim of this, which is to slow the spread of the virus. we talk to the welsh health minister about the issue of people travelling into wales to exercise or visitor beauty spot and i suppose the same applies to scotland as well. possible for the is to be policed or is that going to be down to commonsense and the questions on the way you are setting things out, you've just got to abide by the guidelines? this is about commonsense. we're not going be setting up border checkpoints. we have learned from the very beginning as one united kingdom police service, the forces in wales, we all work together and all try to apply the rules. there are now the differences between the four nations but policing will carry on and adopt the same style. of course there will be people who are legitimately crossing the border. but i would just say to everybody, think really carefully about crossing the border for recreation for sport and understand what the rules are in the country you are entering. we will obviously as i say engage with people every opportunity if there is any confusion and encourage people to return home if that's appropriate. martin hewitt, chair of the national police chief ‘s counsel, thank you. a couple of months ago, any parent of a sick or injured child wouldn't have thought twice about taking them to hospital, if it was necessary. now, fear of coronavirus is causing them to stay away, with addenbrooke's hospital in cambridge seeing less than third of the usual number of young patients. our science correspondent richard westcott reports. there are plenty of staff on shift and all the safety measures are in place but at this hospital, like many others, staff of the virus is stopping parents bringing the children in. it's a lot quieter. we got empty beds for the first time in paediatrics. we have not had empty beds for a long time. you are a nurse but also apparent. could you understand why people would be worried in the end? totally, totally understand it and i discussed it with my colleagues and said what would we do with our children were sick we've all gone, oh, no but we all know the right answer is to seek medical hope and medical help is needed and we would bring our children in. keep your eyes skill, keep your head still right now, look at my fingers wiggling, that's brilliant, fantastic. they would normally see 80—90 children a day at this time of year but they are currently seeing around 20—30. i didn't want it! including abigail, his mum was nervous about ringing her in. i was not cheap watching the news, very scared her in. i was not cheap watching the news, very scared about the number of people dying and all that but then we had to come in. and you're glad you did it? i am very pleased i did and! glad you did it? i am very pleased i did and i got my daughter in and she is getting much better. if you had seen is getting much better. if you had seen her nine weeks ago, she is much better now. because i know she is in good hands and in a better place. initially we were expecting a tsunami of coronavirus cases and in fa ct tsunami of coronavirus cases and in fact what we've seen is a different goblin. we've seen children presenting later and sicker and some to our intensive care unit because we think parents are worried about presenting to hospital in the middle of the pandemic. there is another problem as well. covid—19 doesn't tend to make children very sick but sepsis, appendicitis and pneumonia do. the symptoms can look the same as the virus. if a child is seriously ill with a cough or a fever or other non—specific symptoms such as abdominal pain, it probably isn't coronavirus and the key is that we want those children to come to hospital as soon as possible. that's what caught natasha out. her sonjack that's what caught natasha out. her son jack has that's what caught natasha out. her sonjack has a rare genetic condition so they are used to hospitals. he's recovered now but a few weeks ago, even the doctors initially thought was coronavirus. we went the whole week, you know, this is covid—19, we will ride out another day, we will ride out another day, we will ride out another day, we will ride out another day and that kind of suppressed any of my usual gut instincts. but hospital tests showed he didn't have the virus, he had severe pneumonia. i know the covid is in the news, it's what everyone is in the news, it's what everyone is focusing on but if you feel something isn't right, then act on it because i ignored it, i thought i was doing the right thing actually it wasn't the right thing. addenbrooke's hospital like all hospitals is zoned. patients and the staff treating them are kept well away from these wards. parents like peter who was in with sonjj said they felt well protected. he needs his treatment and he gets brilliant treatment here. how has the experience been being in hospital, have you felt safe? yeah, within three different hospitals and every time, as houses. so it's business as usual on these wards. their advice is, if your child is obviously very ill and you're not sure what to do, seek medical help. richard wescott, bbc news, addenbrooke's hospital in cambridge. it's chilly out this morning but sarah has more details than i do. good morning. good morning to louise and down. a chilly start today out there, we got a touch of frost around. how about this review from your garden, highland scotland, the snow sitting on top of the mountains and we could see the more snow on the forecast today for the far north—east of scotland, perhaps the higher ground of the north—east of england. a few wintry showers in that cold out. a bit of cloud through the day but high—pressure, that's building in from the west. a lot of dry weather on the cards. we had a cold front slipping its way south so that is introducing a bit more cloud and a few drizzly showers to parts of northern ireland, wales, southern england as well. that drizzling is in the south fading away quite quickly. a lot of dry weather and sunshine. you will notice showers across the north—east. a bit of a wintry flavour to them in the north york moors. the odd rogue rain shower down towards the south—east. temperature is about 11— 1a degrees for most of us but along the east coast, a bit of windchill as well for east anglia, the south—east of england. lastly wind here. through this evening and tonight, most of the cloud melts away. some patchy rain but for most of us, it's going to be another cold night so temperatures widely down to freezing and perhaps a bit low so a touch of frost first thing. there will be the cloud across the north of scotland and a few patches i was sinking their way further south across scotland and northern ireland throughout the day. england and wales staying largely dry, they could catch a shower towards the thames estuary, clouds bubbling up in the afternoon. temperatures tomorrow not as chilly as today, 11— 15 degrees for most of us. and the windchill as well, it winds are starting to ease away as we head towards the end of the week. high pressure holding on for friday so another largely dry day, perhaps the odd shower across the north—west of scotla nd odd shower across the north—west of scotland but for most places sunny spells, cloud just building through the course of the day but temperatures a little bit more typical of this stage in may. around 13- 17 typical of this stage in may. around 13— 17 degrees and we are losing those brisk winds from eastern and southern parts of england on friday. towards the weekend, high pressure is still in charge for most of us, building and from the south—west this time with some slightly milder hour. high pressure across the north of scotla nd hour. high pressure across the north of scotland will bring more cloud and a few showers across the far north and north—west of the uk. for most of us, things are looking largely dry and settled and it will be turning a bit warmer again as we head into next week. dan and louise. sarah, thank you very much for that today. hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. let's bring you up—to—date with the main stories this morning, it's just past 7:30am. builders and factory workers in england are among those being encouraged to return to certain jobs from today, as the government starts to ease lockdown restrictions. the prime minister, borisjohnson, says people should walk, cycle or drive to work — if they can't work from home — and only take public transport as a last resort. in wales, scotland and northern ireland, the message remains to "stay at home". we can speak now to the transport secretary, grant shapps, who is at home. hejoins us on he joins us on the hejoins us on the programme he joins us on the programme this morning. i have hundreds of questions from our viewers, so i appreciate brevity and clarity as much as possible to get through as many of those as we can. can we start on the issue of going back to work, we had a report from canning town showing full buses. how on earth do people maintain social distancing when they are trying to go back to work? the absolute key here is for anyone who can you make —— to make alternative arrangements for travelling. bicycling, walking, we put a £2 billion package together to encourage more cycling. and using ca rs to encourage more cycling. and using cars as well. it is essential, regardless of what happens on the underground or wider rail network in terms of the full number of trains and buses running, even when we get to that point and they will be packed up again, only one in ten people would have space to remain properly socially distanced. we are asking people to look again at their travel plans and make sure the distance is capped. but mr schatz, robin, david, covered, all trying to say they are concerned about sanitation on trains, being within not just two metres, sanitation on trains, being within notjust two metres, but close proximity of lots of other people who are trying to get back to work, encouraged by the government to get back to do that but under no circumstances can they maintain a two metre distance. there was an excellent guidance put out yesterday to people taking trains stop and public transport. it was asking people to look at alternatives, and it's really surprising when you look at the numbers, though a small change in behaviour, just a 5% increase in the number of people cycling, is equivalent to millions of s pa ces cycling, is equivalent to millions of spaces or journeys cycling, is equivalent to millions of spaces orjourneys being freed up on public transport for those who have no option at all. mostjourneys are not of significant lengths, certainly outside of london. most are certainly outside of london. most a re less certainly outside of london. most are less than three miles, about 43%, so there are many alternatives people could take and we are asking people could take and we are asking people to look at those alternatives. that isn't a magic solution to this. as i said, we can only take one tenth of the usual number of commuters on public transport before that two meats are —— 2m would be bridged. transport before that two meats are -- 2m would be bridged. would you get on a packed bus or tube? no, people should try to avoid them. there are lots of extra staff or marshals, if you like, being organised at train stations and interchanges to advise people to try and avoid going that route. i would appeal to people, i was talking about this last week, a £2 billion package and £250 million is being spent straightaway to encourage people to cycle and we are encouraging ease scooter trials, bringing them ahead, to provide additional options for people. the picture overall, there are some stations like canning town that i am particularly conscious of and other places on the districtjubilee line which are a concern. but mostly on the network overall, people are heeding the advice and the appeal goes out again, please look for alternative means of transport. one more question on transport, i'm sure you heard of the tragic death of ticketing officer belly mujinga who was spat on and died seven weeks later. what is being done in terms of personal protective equipment to protect those staff? my heart goes out to belly mujinga's family. nobody should be spat out, this isn't a question of ppe, it's disgusting and i know the british transport police are investigating. very sad and indeed the deaths of around 50 transport workers, that is something at a particularly seriously. i have worked with public health england, transport operators, to make sure the correct advice is with everyone. i sent out guidance a couple of days ago in advance of people returning, perhaps using the system a bit more, about what people should and shouldn't be doing including ppe. which is not broadly recommended for transport workers by public health england, because that should be used in a clinical setting, clearly nobody should ever be spitting at somebody, that is a criminal offence and that investigation is under way. loads of questions this morning i would like to talk to about. the reopening of the housing market, from today viewings are available and people can estate agents. there are lots of questions and i'm sure you are getting this as well about why i can do this but i can't do that. let me ask you one. angela says i cannot visit my parents in the park, i cannot visit my parents in the garden, but i can go into their house from today because their houses on the market and has been since february. can you understand the confusion and frustration around issues like this? i think the thing to say is at the beginning of this method was quite simple, wasn't it? everyone should hunker down and stay home. as you unlock that, inevitably, in the need not to unlock everything to control the virus and the so—called r—rate, you need to make some rules and it is going to be the case that there has to bea going to be the case that there has to be a cut—off line somewhere. this is the set of rules that have been put in place, people have been very sensible about everything up until now and we are asking people to apply their common sense. we have two cut off somewhere. people would appreciate w. but common sense and it means potential buyers and renters and childminders and clea ners renters and childminders and cleaners can go into a property but members of the family who live in a different household cannot. that doesn't sound like common sense. no, imean, ifeel doesn't sound like common sense. no, i mean, i feel the doesn't sound like common sense. no, i mean, ifeel the same doesn't sound like common sense. no, i mean, i feel the same as everyone watching this, i haven't watched —— sin my parents for weeks and months like everyone else, my dad will be 89 soon and i'm desperate to go and see them stop but we must understand we have done so well in the last eight weeks, we cannot throw that all the way. so these are baby steps. if someone visits a home, i would like that to be a 1—off. if you are starting to visit your family again, that is likely to be many more times. somewhere there has to bea many more times. somewhere there has to be a line sort of drawn where we say this is ok but this isn't in order to gradually release things. and this is where that line is at the moment. but as we know from the prime minister's roadmap he set out on sunday, if we abate what has been said so far, following the rules carefully, they will be changed again at the beginning ofjune. the prospect of the beginning ofjune or the beginning ofjuly, let's hope that we stick to the advice that has been our very clearly given, lots of guidance and make sure we beat this thing together. ok, the housing market is one thing. i don't want to run out of time are not covered some other issues this morning. the gdp figures this morning bring things into a very sharp focus, the economy is renting at the fastest pace than more “— is renting at the fastest pace than more —— in more than a decade. with that in mind from the aviation industry and holiday industry have a lot of questions about that. the 2e ceo said some holidays are possible with safety measures in place. this goes against what health secretary matt hancock said yesterday. from all of these questions from reviewers about the potential of holidays at some in this year, and that happen? -- our viewers? no-one wa nts to that happen? -- our viewers? no-one wants to ruin people's holidays that we have to accept the situation we are at in this moment in time which is within this country you can't go somewhere overnight and stay there, going abroad, the commonwealth offers advises against all travel so you can't do that. the fastest way of getting back to normality is to very closely follow the rules that are being set out. it's hard to know quite what the path will be. we've seen, haven't we, with this whole disease, that we had this curve it's coming down but slower than it went up, as everyone knows. so it's hard where it will be out. so why is the 2e ceo saying that, is he wrong? we had a present from ryanair say they will sell flights in july, if had a present from ryanair say they will sell flights injuly, if they can “— will sell flights injuly, if they can —— a person. will sell flights injuly, if they can -- a person. wejust have to ta ke can -- a person. wejust have to take everyone where we will be in the future and we have set up on that roadmap where we hope to be. we don't know if the virus will respond as we hope because it depends, going back to our first conversation, it depends on how many people closely adhere to the rules. so we are all desperate to get to the world back to normal and get back to our lives and go on holiday and all the rest of it, but we can only do that in small steps. and i think when matt hancock, the health secretary, commented this on yesterday, he was pointing out the obvious which is right now the rules or advice from the foreign office is against foreign travel. we are running out of time. so are you saying book it or don't book it? i'm saying right now, you cannot travel a bride. if you are booking it, then you are clearly, by very nature, taking a chance on where the direction of this virus goes and where the travel advice is in the future. so that is not something that the people would wa nt to ta ke not something that the people would want to take lightly of course. one more question about quarantine. david sent it in. how can the government justify applying a quarantine policy to all travellers? it's two months too late according to who recommendations, yet it exams all travellers from the republic of ireland and france stop is question is how something you said a lot of, how is this following the science? 0k, how is this following the science? ok, well first of all the weta recommendations are not as he suggests —— the who recommendations, ask should borders be closed, his straightforward advice was no, it wouldn't stop this virus from coming in. we already had it here and it wouldn't have achieved anything. the differences we get the r number down a number of people infected down, thenit a number of people infected down, then it becomes significant with people coming in. with all the testing that is available which simply wasn't something this country had right at the beginning of this, it does mean we are much more capable of being able to track and trace so that will make sense and i don't think we can ask the british people to continue to obey very strict rules, although you have been challenging me on quite rightly this morning, saying anyone could come here and move around. that wouldn't be right. we've got to get that balance right and the answer, the simple answer is, what we're doing is based on the best medical advice available. mr shapps, we got to let you go. we understand you have other interviews to do this morning. thank you for talking to us. you're welcome. golf courses in england can reopen today — and those in wales will follow suit on monday. and — because of social distancing — players will need to get to grips with even more rules than usual. sally is at a course in greater manchester to find out more. and perhaps a bit low so a touch of frost first thing. yes, good morning. we know that golf likes a rule but there are even more from today but as you said, there are some changes happening. lots of different parts of our lives. golf and tennis are two changes. we are at this beautiful golf club here and i have to say, everyone is saying it's really good for your mental health to get outside in green space, if i was a member here, i would be coming here today because it is beautiful. big changes. let's take a look at the new rules put in place to help you stay safe on the golf course. flagsticks will remain, but they will have signs on them to warn players not to touch them. bunker rakes will be removed and players will be expected to smooth the sand as best they can using their golf clubs. and to make sure everything is kept in line with social distancing guidelines, the clubhouse will remain closed except for access to toilets. we can see here, there is a little row of buggies, you're allowed to go ona row of buggies, you're allowed to go on a buggy with a member of your household. you are not allowed to go ona household. you are not allowed to go on a buggy with a person you don't live with. it's actually quite straightforward and for lots of people who play golf, it's going to be of the day. i will talk to two of them now because i think this could be one of the nice moments today, one of the momentous moments were actually for the first time in several weeks, there are people up and down england will be hitting a golf ball for the first time. nick abbott and steve boland are two of those people. how many weeks? six months, isn't it? it's coming up to six weeks, probably. the clubs have been here so i've not hit a golf ball at all. how important is it for you as a player, to come here and be able to play golf and be so lucky to get this teatime? it's fantastic. the club as you set is superb, the membership is brilliant. to come down here and be able to play golf ona down here and be able to play golf on a relaxing day, yourfriends, meet up with them, there is nothing like it in the world. you mentioned your friends. steve, like it in the world. you mentioned yourfriends. steve, have you to seen yourfriends. steve, have you to seen each other? we have that only really just seen each other? we have that only reallyjust coming down and walking the course. i am lucky enough to live locally. walking the dog on the lead and spoken about how good it would be to go back and start playing. this is very different. you are actually going to play nine holes today? you're going to get to spend some time together? yes. how important is that view in terms of keeping in touch with your mates? the social side of golf is as important as going out and playing competitively. it's a great club here and membership. everybody is very social and it's good. how rusty do you think you are going to be? very. there are only a certain amount of divots i can take out. where are we? what do you reckon your chances are? looking up the fairway there, it's very inviting. seeing all sorts of different results there. everybody at home, nick has kindly agreed to share this very special moment with all of us. hitting a golf ball for the first time ina hitting a golf ball for the first time in a long time and he is doing it live on national television. first on the green at dunham forest, thatis first on the green at dunham forest, that is my bit of commentary. away you go. thank you. brilliant. that's it. hopefully that will be happening and lots of different places today. back to you. i think different places today. back to you. ithinki different places today. back to you. i think i saw that go straight left into the trees? is that where it went? sh! did it go slightly left? no, straight down the middle. thank you very much and well done, a bit ofa you very much and well done, a bit of a shock. very brave to do that. i was sitting there wondering, is somebody going to tee off? among those heading back to work in england today are estate agents, as the government tries to get the housing market moving. sean is in the newsroom. the figures this morning showing the economy fell in size by 2% in the first three months of the year the most since the financial crisis in 2008, when our world only drastically because of the way our world changed in march, that's had a big impact on the services set, develops most on record. it reminds us and so many industries are keen to get up and running again. they had to these businesses the housing industry today, big changes in england that may be a day or two ago won't expected. from today, this first change coming in, property viewings, estate agent visits, removals, show homes, all allowed since the lockdown, the only part of the housing market has been allowed with those totally necessary house moves and everyone will have to abide by those key rules we are talking about so those key rules we are talking about so often about having to keep social distancing guidelines, wear gloves when necessary and some of the smaller print estate agents have to abide by, will have to be away from the house during viewing. it's advised anyone who is advised to self isolate should continue to do so. self isolate should continue to do so. talk about the impact on the economy, it is reckoned to be 450,000 buyers and renters waiting, unable to carry on with their plans to move since march. that puts it in perspective. we can get the view of an estate agent who joins us from central london. good morning. a few things we are discussing this morning about the economy. ijust wonderfor morning about the economy. ijust wonder for you, morning about the economy. ijust wonderfor you, we were morning about the economy. ijust wonder for you, we were on the phone late last night when you heard all ofa late last night when you heard all of a sudden the housing market was up of a sudden the housing market was up and running? was ita of a sudden the housing market was up and running? was it a day of excitement for you or is it one step ata time? excitement for you or is it one step at a time? i think it's a huge exciting step for us. it's great news to recognise the property industry, the health of the property and —— property drives the wider economy and it's very exciting news. we're still going to be with social distancing and all the ppe required but it's fantastic news because as everybody sees, the property market has been in suspended animation for the last few months. it's been incredibly hard to do transactions. is there a danger that estate agent businesses like yourselves and people wanted to buy and sell their homes and get on with these are a bit gung ho about it and may be rushed through and don't abide by some of these guidelines that have been put in place? i think there is a huge amount of pent—up energy, people desperate to get on and do this. i know three cases where people haven't been able to move. they accepted a newjob and they couldn't even move. that was a huge issue. people are going to rush but companies like ourselves, a lot of the wider industry are going to be very careful. people are still frightened of the virus. i don't think anybody would be stupid enough to ignore all the advice and we as a business have got all the ppe equipment, we are ready to go and we will be out there trying to move people into homes. do you feel co mforta ble people into homes. do you feel comfortable with the idea that somebody who maybe classed as higher risk one way or another by the government will be looking to sell their home, even though they have to be out of the home during viewings. that having lots of people coming into their home during the day. does that sit easy with you? there is a lot of talk about that. should viewings still go ahead with someone living in the property? you don't know if they are self isolating or not. i think firstly, for anything thatis not. i think firstly, for anything that is empty, it's easy to go in and start doing viewings and respect social distancing. when people are occupied, you hope everybody being as sensible as possible, there will be on our knees. both the public and agents are wary of people living in properties so i think we've got to be careful and make sure we are doing it. i don't know whether or not doing viewings while people are in the property is going to actually go ahead very much until this is out of the way. we've seen these figures this morning that give us an indication of how the economy was getting on in the first three months of the year. it seems like a long time ago but can you remember that period, what was businesslike to you in those last few weeks of march? march was our busiest month on record and usually that's in the summer. record and usually that's in the summer. we did more transactions than we have historically done and there was the post brexit, post what boris is done, we saw house prices starting to rise, rent starting to rise and a huge number of transactions. clearly the moment it came in, there was, everything came toa came in, there was, everything came to a halt. we're lucky a lot transactions didn't fall through and a lot of people are holding, people can do searches, lawyers can do things electronic be so those people who hadn't quite exchanged that paperwork, what we did notice before, was this desire to get on and do it. we saw what had been happening in asia with a lot of people making them want to get on, if it was to take a hit. we talk about 450,000 renters and buyers we re about 450,000 renters and buyers were poised to crack on with what they wanted to. do you think a large proportion of those will be taking a step back now because of the many people, their financial situation will have changed, their confidence in what happens will have changed over the next few months. i've got to tell you, even yesterday, we thought we were going to be stage two. we still have enquiries on monday and tuesday of people wanting to move, can they see the videos, can they get ready and i think there isa can they get ready and i think there is a huge 450,000, not all of those situations will have changed but as things get back to normal, i think people need to move. it's not the people need to move. it's not the people want to move, they need to move. there is going to be reticence and in element of buyers thinking the market is dire, things are really bad and making low offers but you will end up with something like a mexican stand—off where sellers will not reduce on the way buyers wa nt to will not reduce on the way buyers want to and buyers will not get the deals and there will be that element of stand—off but within time and i think within a couple of months, we will hopefully have returned to some of normality in the market. thank you very much forjoining us this morning. there isn't much use the housing market if transactions don't begin to take place so it may take a bit of time these industries when they feel like they are getting up and running again in some way to get anything like the way they were before the lockdown began. incredible to hear that estate agents are having a record month everin agents are having a record month ever in march, that's the drastic change we are hearing about the economy this morning. good to hear it, thank you. we know that lots of people are being encouraged by the government to go back to work. we will be speaking later to grant schapps about that. this picture is live over london. we know the government is saying, if you don't have to take public transport, look for alternatives. that is what grant schapps was confirming to us. it does seem some people are beginning to return to work. car sharing, i don't know how many of those people are in cars on their own, but looking at the potential of being able to share with somebody. but on the left—hand side, the windows are open, the steering wheel, everything is cleaned every single time you travel that is something the government are issuing guidelines on as well. talking about that later, we will be speaking to robert nesbitt of the transport association. let's find out what is happening with sarah. it's a chilly start of the day out there today. most of us, there is a bit of sunshine on offer. this is the picture in rochdale at the moment, blue skies and patchy cloud. as we head to the day, looking generally drive a lot of the uk with spells of sunshine but we have got a few showers in the forecast, particularly for the north—east. perhaps parts of north—east england. if you do catch some of those showers, they could be a bit wintry, sleet and snow mixed in because we have a cold air mass with us at high pressure very much in charge. that's dominating the weather, lots of dry weather. we have a weather front moving across the far north of scotla nd moving across the far north of scotland later today. a cold front sinking south overnight, bringing cloud across parts of england and wales. a few showers for northern ireland as well. cloud in the south fading away through the day. we will keep the showers across the north—east of scotland, one of two near the north york moors. the most of us, temperatures on the cooler side for the middle of may, 11— 14 degrees but along the east coast, you will be stuck in single figures and there is quite a windchill across the east coast and through the english channel as well, brisk winds gusting around 40 miles per hour at times. eases and cloud disperses so the recipe for another cold night to come, more widely than last night, temperatures close to or even a little below freezing. if you've been doing gardening recently, take note there is likely to bea recently, take note there is likely to be a frost for some of us first thing tomorrow. tomorrow, cloud across northern scotland with a few showers initially. drifts further south across northern ireland. england and wales predominantly drive. there will be a bit more cloud bubbling up during the day. temperatures tomorrow not quite as chilly as today. starting to creep up, around 11— for dean. brisk wind on thursday but by friday, wind tend to ease in the south and east. you will notice things feel a bit warmer. sunny spells most, a showers in the far north—west on friday, temperatures around 17 degrees. more in 30 minutes. good morning. welcome to breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. our headlines today... the uk economy has shrunk at its fastest pace since the financial crisis of 2008, as the coronavirus forced the country into lockdown. a fall of 2% in size overall, as the services sector shrank by the most on record. i'll have more details shortly. this morning, the easing of lockdown begins in england, as people are encouraged to go back to work. but the advice in scotland, wales and northern ireland is to stay at home. people who are travelling to work are urged to avoid public transport. those who need to use it should wear face coverings and keep their distance from other passengers. the english housing market is being re—started. buyers and renters can visit estate agents and view properties. golf clubs in england are open. the first players have already to do this morning. it's wednesday the 13th of may. our top story... the uk economy shrank at the fastest pace since the financial crisis of 2008 during the first quarter of this year. the office for national statistics said the economy contracted by 2% in the three months to march. sean has been looking into this for us. yes, there's a lot of numbers and people are waiting very keenly for these numbers, just to see what the reality was for the economy, compared to the day—to—day lives that we are all living with lockdown and the way business has changed, particularly at the end of march. these figures are for the first three months of the year and they will include much more normal times, when businesses were doing better, and the economy shrank by 2% in that period. that is the biggest fall since 2008, the end of that year, when we were in the midst of the financial crisis. the services sector has had its biggest fall on record in the first three months of the year as well. it gives us a hint of what has happened to the economy in the week that then follow through april and into may, where we have beenin april and into may, where we have been in lockdown. we have had those predictions from the bank of england already that said the economy were chewing in the first three months of the year, and then shrink again by a much, much bigger amount in the next three months. these figures this morning are actually better than a lot of analysts predicted, a fall of 296 lot of analysts predicted, a fall of 2% is not good for the economy but many thought worse may be on the way. if you look at the figures for march, the economy shrank nearly 6% in march alone, pretty much across all sectors. so, the impact of the lockdown has been huge, a lot of people would not be surprised by that. but these are early estimates of what the first three months of the year actually meant for all of us in ourjobs and there was running businesses and some of those figures are actually not as bad as perhaps previously thought. thank you very much for that bit of analysis. builders and factory workers in england are among those being encouraged to return to work from today, as the government starts to ease lockdown restrictions. the prime minister is also allowing those of us in england to spend unlimited time in parks and public spaces and to do some outdoor sports. in wales, scotland and northern ireland, the message remains to "stay at home". charlotte rose is at canning town station in east london. we were speaking to the transport secretary about half an hour ago about public transport. he is again urging people not to use it if at all possible. what has he been like there this morning? well, i should say that in normal times, canning town would be a very busy transport hub, there is the tube here and also the docklands light railway, and the bus station as well. there has been a steady stream of people this morning, but definitely not a rush. most buses appear to have been quite quiet, a couple were more full. on the tube platforms, i can see that most people seem to be able to keep apart from one another, and there have been frequent announcements over the tannoy system reminding passengers that they need to try and keep two metres away from everybody else and that they need to follow signage on the floor. the government is urging people not to use public transport unless they have to, to walk, cycle or use their own cars instead and it does seem that people have been heeding that advice, because the road next to us has been very busy with people heading into central london. one of the other m essa g es central london. one of the other messages the government was trying to convey was that people should wear facemasks when using public transport. that message it seems does not seem to have come across so much. i have seen may be only 20% of people wearing some kind of face covering. so it seems there may be a little further to go on that. for people this is the first bay day back at work for seven weeks and it will take time for this new system to bed in. we arejust going to see whether people feel safe travelling on public transport now. charlotte, thank you, the latest live from canning town station this morning. our political correspondent iain watson is in westminster. we heard grant shapps urging people to avoid using public transport if possible, how will all of this go down with the opposition and with trade unions? i think the opposition and the trade unions will be pressing for proper safety guidance for people going back to work. the transport secretary said he had issued guidance for public transport, but effectively, it is to say that social distancing should be maintained on public transport. there will be people to help with that, train marshals, but the fundamental bottom line is, that if you have social distancing on public transport, they will have to be running about 10% of the normal capacity. so partly, his message was for people to look at alternatives. grant shapps was saying on this programme that £250 million is going to be going into cycling schemes, if 596 to be going into cycling schemes, if 5% more people cycle to work, that would free up substantial space on public transport, but i think there will be a sceptical view from the opposition, who felt that when the prime minister announced this on sunday, it felt like a mixed message to stay, go back to work, but stay off public transport, which may also push up rotor. also earlier, grant shapps was saying people should seriously look at alternatives. there are alternatives like cycling which many people could take, and we are asking people to look at those alternatives. there is not a magic single solution to this. as i say, we can only take one tenth of the usual number of commuters on the public transport system before that two metre would be breached, so we really need the public's co—operation on this. really need the public's co-operation on this. that was grant shapps earlier. there is also the suggestion, iain, that the virtual parliament that we've seen might be replaced by the more traditional one — how would that work? replaced by the more traditional one - how would that work? that's right. again, like public transport, you have to maintain social distancing, until perhaps we get a vaccine and the virus is properly under control. so if you end the virtual parliament, where people have been asking questions of ministers on the big screens, and if you encourage everybody to go back to westminster, there is only capacity for 50 mps. there are 650 in total, so there would have to be negotiations between the parties as to who turns up between the parties as to who turns up and holds the ministers to account. this call for parliament to return was made last night by the conservative mp jacob return was made last night by the conservative mpjacob rees—mogg. no firm decision will be taken until next week. but it has proved a controversial call because some people are raising questions about the safety of parliamentary staff if they go back, it is a workplace like any other. and there is also controversy any other. and there is also co ntrove rsy over any other. and there is also controversy over what message the government should be sending. should they be saying, as they are saying to people in construction, estate agents and everything else today, go back to work, or should they be saying, if you can work from home, you should work from home, and we will set an example by many of us are staying at home and getting involved in parliamentary proceedings via video? iain watson, thank you very much. british transport police is investigating the death of a railway ticket office worker who died of coronavirus after allegedly being spat at by a man who claimed he was infected. belly mujinga, who had underlying respiratory problems, died seven weeks after the incident at victoria station in march. she was a lovely person, with a lot of potential. very caring. loved. and always there for anybody. she came back from work and she told us about the spitting. somebody spat on her while she was working. somebody approached them and said, why are you here? you should be working. and she said, they replied that, we have to work. and hejust say, i've got covid and spat at them. millions of self—employed people whose business has been affected by coronavirus can apply for government grants from today. the self employed income support scheme would see money paid into the accounts of eligible people six days after they apply. it's designed to match the support provided to employees through the furlough scheme, which was extended until october yesterday. the travel firm tui has warned that it will have to cut 8000 jobs. the company says its turnover will be significantly lower this year and cost savings will only partly compensate for that. tui was forced to cancel the majority of its travel programme back in march. childminders in england can reopen from today if they are caring for children from the same household. the government made the announcement last night, following confusion about the rules. during lockdown, registered childminders have either been closed or providing care for vulnerable children or children of key workers. the leading infectious disease expert in the us has said the country does not yet have coronavirus under control. that's despite california easing restrictions from today. although some businesses are beginning to reopen in parts of the country, dr anthony fauci says a premature lifting of the lockdown will lead to unnecessary deaths. we'll be talking about the re—opening of garden centres this morning but here's one item of horticultural hardware you won't find on sale. this motorised wheelbarrow was made from an old moped and has a top speed of around 40mph. its creator, kevin nicks, who already hold a guinness record for the world's fastest shed, hopes to get his "barrow of speed" into the record books, once the lockdown is over. it's back to work today, if you live in england and can't do yourjob from home. that's the advice from the westminster government. and as we've been hearing, that also means increased numbers on our buses, trams and trains. robert nisbet is the nations and regions director for the rail delivery group, which represents train operators in britain we can speak to him in suffolk this morning. good morning to you, thanks for joining us. i suppose the first question — how is it going this morning? how many people are trying to get on the trains? well, it was interesting to hear your reporter in east london, and that is pretty much what we're hearing across the board, that there isn't a big uptick the number of passengers using our services, that they have been heeding the advice from the government and from the industry, that you should only really take public transport if you absolutely have to. you should consider all other modes of transport like cycling and walking or even the car before you get to a train station, and it seems strange for the rail industry to be saying that, but obviously our capacity is constrained. if you're going to observe two metres social distancing, then clearly you can't get as many passengers onto a train carriage as previously, so we have to make sure that that demand is limited. how is it working practically? if you were to walk into a practically? if you were to walk intoa train practically? if you were to walk into a train carriage and there are already too many people in there, are you asking people to police it themselves, or is somebody looking out for that for them?” themselves, or is somebody looking out for that for them? i mean, clearly it is going to be different depending on where you're travelling. if it's a commuter service, that is going to be different from a long—distance service where you may have booked your ticket beforehand. but what we're asking people to do is three things. firstly, plan ahead, which is, to avoid peak services if you possibly can and check online, because as we scale up our services, some of those train times have changed. and obviously it is going to ta ke changed. and obviously it is going to take longer to get onto trains, maintaining the two metre distance as you get off and on. but also, consider others, consider your fellow passengers that you are on the carriage with, try and keep that to me to distance where you can, try and limit the time you are close to somebody, and try and move away or avert your face if possible, and please wear a face covering. i got this one, a few quid, online. we are asking people, if they are using trains, to please wear one. and also observe the social distancing, wash your hands, use hand sanitiser is where you can. and respect those people around you and respect the advice you're being given from staff. there are going to be posters and stickers on the ground to help you find your way around but you really need to keep your ears open as well and look at those signs, listen to those announcements to make sure that you travel as safely as possible. we know that in spain, for example, i think it is, they are offering travellers hand sanitiser — are train companies going to be doing that? some people may or may not have face coverings, will you be offering that kind of equipment? we are, in places, we are offering hand sanitiser, we are advising people to ta ke sanitiser, we are advising people to take it with them. it is going to be really difficult for us to police this new environment. so we are asking people to help us help themselves, so, plan as much as possible. if you don't have one of those face coverings, think about a bandanna or a scarf or an old t—shirt, there are plenty of youtube tutorials about how to make one. although it won't necessarily protect you from infection, if you haveit protect you from infection, if you have it and you're not showing symptoms, a face covering may prevent you from spreading it to others, which is why we are advising people to do that. and on top of that we are taking other measures, as you would expect. we're cleaning trains and stations much more than did before. everyday are ensuring that they're as clean as possible, with antiviral products. but we are going to need everybody‘s help to make this work. we're going to start scaling up our services so that in some places we will have longer trains so there is more space for people to maintain social distance, and from next week, we're going to start seeing a gradual upscale in services but we are going to people's help to keep this as a safe as possible. and what about keeping staff safe ? as possible. and what about keeping staff safe? i am sure many people will have seen the awful story about belly mujinga who was working in a ticket office in london and was allegedly spat at by somebody who said they had the virus and has now died because of that. what are you doing to protect staff who have to work to keep this service going? this is our first priority, the health of our staff and customers, of course. the railfamily health of our staff and customers, of course. the rail family have health of our staff and customers, of course. the railfamily have been doing an amazing job, since this crisis started, of keeping services going, for people like nurses and doctors and getting food to supermarkets and fuel to power stations. it just is supermarkets and fuel to power stations. itjust is unbelievable to me that someone would take out their anger and frustration on someone in the way that is alleged to have happened in this case. i can't comment on the specifics of it because there is an investigation undergoing at the moment which the rail industry is obviously taking pa rt rail industry is obviously taking part in, but we've lost ten members of our railfamily part in, but we've lost ten members of our rail family since this crisis started, to covid—19, and we've been engaging with the unions, we've agreed a set of safety principles with them, and we're asking people who are using the services, if they have no choice but to take a train, to respect the job that these people are doing day in, day out, to keep the nation moving. robert, really good to talk to you, thank you very much for your time this morning. so, thatis much for your time this morning. so, that is the picture of public transport this morning. garden centres can re—open in england today, which is good news if your lockdown lawn needs some love. those in wales opened on monday, but in scotland and northern ireland, they remain closed. john is at a garden centre in dorset to see how they're planning to keep staff and customers safe. and we can see they have been planning for this, haven't they? good morning. yeah, they have, louise. a real military operation here, it is a unique situation, we are in sherborne at the castle gardens garden centre. they are just disinfecting the handles on the trolleys. they want people here today to use these trolleys because it will help with the social distancing, and the staff are here to help people when they arrive to give them an idea of making sure that they stay two metres apart. let's ta ke that they stay two metres apart. let's take you through the garden centre now. just use the old hand sanitiser there. business has stayed open online for the last eight weeks, and on the telephone, but, of course, the shop itself has been closed. so, usual seeds, as you can see, along the wall. arrows everywhere. they've introduced a one—way system through the garden centre. so, if you're a regular at your local garden centre, you may notice that things have been slightly changed. there is an industrywide template of what to do to try to make things as safe as possible. the kind of things you get in centres like this these days, they are all taped off, over there, so they are all taped off, over there, so those things over there are not available to buy, the whole thing is to try to make the experience a little quicker and more fluid. so people aren't loitering and browsing. in fact people are being encouraged to look online first, to try and get an idea of exactly what you want when you come to the garden centre so you you want when you come to the garden centre so you can go you want when you come to the garden centre so you can go straight to it, and the staff will be handing out maps as well to tell people where all of the different items are. the advantage, of course, with garden centres is that they have very often, there are 2500 of them across the uk, but very often they have lots of outdoor space, and look at all the plants, absolutely stocked up all the plants, absolutely stocked up as you would imagine having been closed for the last eight weeks. good morning to you again, mike, the owner of the garden centre here. what has the last eight weeks been like for you and the business? it's been really quite tough. we worked as hard as we could on telephone orders, looking after as many customers as possible at home, because we think that actually we can be part of the solution, keeping people at home, gardening, it occupies their time, keeps them me ntally occupies their time, keeps them mentally and physically fit and of course they can grow their own food as well which is a huge advantage. and i think we have seen a bit of how much preparation you have put into reopening — just tell us also what you have had to do with staff, retraining them? yeah, so, we've been working very hard in reorganising the site. one thing we realised was making sure that the staff were comfortable with the protocols that we are putting in place. so, we've been rehearsing over the last few weeks and running through the routes, working out the pinch points, and the team have come up pinch points, and the team have come up with some great ideas on how to improve the whole thing. so, the confidence levels have been building towards the reopening today, which has been really important to us. so, as you can see, footprints around the site. video taking a bit of a shortcut here. normally you would ask people to chicane around as they're approaching the tills, to keep the distance. we heard earlier on in the crisis that some of these pla nts on in the crisis that some of these plants might even have had to be thrown away, what have you had to do here? well, we've been able to distribute plants that were going past their best to schools and charities and to the local nursing homes and residential homes, but also to hospitals for the nhs staff and hospitals locally for their gardens. and so they've been able to improve their gardens free of charge. we can do that, but the nurseries and growers, of course, a much bigger problem. the great thing about us reopening is that we will be able to help out uk growers to get back on their feet as quickly as they can. i know people with those green fingers can't wait. we've got louise there behind the perspex. that is going to be one of these new normal things, the perspex tills in front of people, and preference for cards and not cash, the whole idea to keep the personal contact, as sad as it sounds, to keep that down. very much so. card transactions, contactless limits have been raised to improve the amount of contactless transaction that can take place, and we've done rehearsing down here, working out the best positioning of people's trolleys and also where they have to wait to queue, giving them the right distancing so that them the right distancing so that the team can work safely whilst there are customers around. we think we've thought of everything — we're going to find out soon! good luck to you and the staff today, have a good day. it is a long—awaited day today, reopening garden centres across england. they opened in wales on monday, beginning of this week, a p pa re ntly monday, beginning of this week, apparently things went very well there. we're going to have to wait and see what happens with scotland and see what happens with scotland and northern ireland. but as we said earlier on this morning, the green shoots of recovery, i suppose, in a garden centre, life making baby steps to getting back to normal. and there will probably be a queue outside later on as well. it is an important day for many people, but still trying to balance the easing of the lockdown with that keeping health and social distance as a top priority. one of the top priorities during the coronavirus outbreak has been getting supplies to where they are needed. now, on the isle of wight, they're using a new drone service to deliver to their only nhs hospital. the unmanned aircraft has been brought into service four years early so things like ppe can be sent to the island quickly. duncan kennedy has been to see it in action. mid—air, mid solent, midway to the isle of wight to land vital hospital equipment. this is britain's first drone medical supply service. delivering protective clothing in the covid—19 crisis to the island's only nhs hospital. called a windracers ultra, it's a massive autonomous aircraft that is remote—controlled and with the cargo hold the size of an estate car boot. it's capable of carrying a very significant payload of 100 kilos for 1,000km, and it's capable of flying at nearly 100mph, so it's relatively fast and, most importantly, it's cheap. the drone was originally designed to deliver food to remote areas of africa, but southampton university and a consortium of companies called solent transport have combined to adapt it, remove supplies and ppe to the isle of wight at the request of the government. it needs a runway no longer than a football pitch to take off and land. and it's quick, taking only 10 minutes to fly over the solent. it's fully safety—tested, capable of flying in all weathers and on one engine or none. if both fail, it can glide to land or float on water. when it touches down on the island, its supplies are taken the short journey to st mary's hospital. in britain, this is the first of its type. we're the first people to have done flights beyond visual line of sight and deliver medical facilities between hospitals. what we're trying to do is provide a really, really useful, timely service that can provide really fast transfer of urgent, time sensitive goods. the drone wasn't supposed to be fully operational for another four years. it's been given special permission by the civil aviation authority to get airborne. this is an incredible period for the isle of wight. not only is it the test bed for the government's new covid—19 smartphone app, but it's also the destination for this highly sophisticated drone. two types of cutting—edge technology, set to work in this coronavirus crisis. the islands hovercraft and ferry services are still running but on a reduced service while continuing to be used by the nhs to transport supplies and patients. but is the drone any match for a helicopter, which can also travel quickly to the island? the helicopters are very expensive and actually, we need to use a helicopter for saving life, but the drone can back that up. the drone is a workhorse. the covid—19 story has driven invention, change and creativity. this drone combines all three to link mainland and island in a new air bridge of high—tech innovation. duncan kennedy, bbc news. a lovely day for that filming. sarah, is there some nice sunshine on the way for some people? yes, there is, for many of us, this morning, louise and dan. this is the picture in topsham in devon at the moment, a bit of fairweather cloud around. there will also be some showers in the forecast, particularly for northern and eastern scotland and the north—east of england. some of them could have a bit ofa of england. some of them could have a bit of a wintry nature to them, even some sleet and snow mixed in, in the north, because we have still got quite a cold air mass with us. high pressure very much dominating the weather at the moment, keeping things mostly dry. but you will see a weather front approaching the north of scotland, so, a bit more cloud building here. and we will keep those showers across northern areas, but further south, keep those showers across northern areas, but furthersouth, most places avoiding the showers. largely dry, sunny spells, a bit of fairweather cloud, and quite a brisk breeze, particularly for parts of east anglia, the south—east and through the english channel. temperatures still below—average for the time of year. colder along that east coast, particularly when you add on the wind chill. tonight, the cloud in the south melts away, so we have got generally clear skies. more cloud across the north—west of scotland, that is an approaching one front. for the rest of us, another cold and frosty night to come, particularly in rural spots. another chilly start to the day tomorrow. more sunshine for most of us tomorrow morning. there will be cloud across the north of scotland, pushing a bit southwards. further south across england and wales, you should stay largely dry. perhaps one or two rogue showers down towards the thames estuary. temperatures tomorrow a degree or two warmer than today. and we're tending to lose that wind chill that has been with us for the past few days. heading into friday, high pressure still in charge, most places dry again, just the order shower across the north—west of scotland. but we will lose that brisk wind, less breezy by the time we get to friday. temperatures more typical for the time of year on friday. heading into the weekend, this high pressure builds in from the south—west and it will bring some slightly milder air for most of us. we have also got low pressure approaching from the north and north—west, bringing some showers across scotland and northern ireland. further south, for england and wales, it should stay dry over the weekend, and after a chilly few days, it will be warming up through the weekend and into next week. so, the weather is getting better, you've been worried about the cold, haven't you? hello, this is breakfast with dan walker and louise minchin. the uk economy shrank at the fastest pace since the financial crisis of 2008 during the first quarter of this year. the office for national statistics said the economy contracted by two percent in the three months to march a period which included just over a week of the uk lockdown. analysts expect a bigger slump in the second quarter, before the economy starts to recover. builders and factory workers in england are among those being encouraged to return to certain jobs from today, as the government starts to ease lockdown restrictions. the prime minister borisjohnson says people should walk, cycle or drive to work if they can't work from home and only take public transport as a last resort. in wales, scotland and northern ireland, the message remains to "stay at home". british transport police are investigating the death of a railway ticket office worker who died of coronavirus after allegedly being spat at by a man who claimed he was infected. belly mujinga, who had underlying respiratory problems, died seven weeks after the incident at victoria station in march. she was a lovely person, with a lot of potential. very caring. loved. and always there for anybody. she came back from work and she told us about the spitting. somebody spat on her while she was working. somebody approached them and said, why are you here? you should be working. and she said, they replied that, we have to work. and hejust say, i've got covid and spat at them. millions of self—employed people whose business has been affected by coronavirus can apply for government grants from today. the self employed income support scheme would see money paid into the accounts of eligible people, six days after they apply. it's designed to match the support provided to employees through the furlough scheme, which was extended until october yesterday. and coming up here on breakfast this morning... it is like a choreographed ballet. people are moving as though they have repellents between them. it is a good idea for a musical number at least. we've got another treat for eurovision fans as bjorn from abba tells us how he's been coping with covid—19. the former chelsea and italy striker gianluca vialli has written a book of stories to give us hope during dark times, including his own successful treatment for cancer. luca willjoin us in a few minutes. you deliberately picked your shabby is to sack to go out in. why? so, they will ask you and you can tell them, your husband is a tyrant. and we'll talk to coronation street actors ian bartholomew and shelley king as geoff's abuse of yasmeen reaches boiling point. golf courses in england can re—open today and those in wales will follow suit on monday. and because of social distancing, players will need to get to grips with even more rules than usual. sally is at a course in greater manchester to find out more. good morning. good morning, everybody. ithink if you are sitting in the studio at the moment, perhaps, dan, you are feeling envious of our location, on a beautiful, beautiful golf course here. it has open properly in the last half an hour or so, we have seen last half an hour or so, we have seen the first players teeing off and they are well on their way in glorious sunshine. as louis said, there are plenty of rules you will have to follow if you want to play golf, which is only happening in england today. let's talk through what is happening. courses have only openedin what is happening. courses have only opened in england for now. next week, the courses in wales are due to open on monday. but currently golf courses in scotland and northern ireland remain closed. you can play around with up to three people that you live with, so people you share a household with, four of you share a household with, four of you can come and play. you can also play with someone you do not live with, but you can only play with one other person. get that? it is quite straightforward. here we are this morning, and if you look closely here on the putting green by the first tee, what they have done is they have marked out the floor so that it they have marked out the floor so thatitis they have marked out the floor so that it is in quadrants with rope to keep everybody apart. four people at any one time are allowed to come and practice here. they have been so careful about the rules. chris melton is on the executive committee. chris, talk me through the rules for anyone coming to a golf club today. what do they need to know? first, you have to be a member. two, you need to book in advance. here you have always been able to turn up and play and we have had to change that category. now you sign up the day before, all being well, and you can only play two of you. when you get to the car park, keep sensible social distancing. the clubhouse is completely closed. normally this is full of people, people having breakfast, exchanging pleasantries, getting people having breakfast, exchanging pleasa ntries, getting to people having breakfast, exchanging pleasantries, getting to know each other, that will not happen, it will be closed. the toilets are open. all the doors through their are open. come out here and collect your bag from the gazebo, which will have been cleaned, you return it back there and it will be cleaned again. there is hand sanitiser at every tea, all over the place. you can only practice in these quadrants. you have got to arrive within the ten or 15 minutes before your allocated tee off time. and there can only be two of you. there are no ra kes can only be two of you. there are no rakes in the bunkers. over there you can see somebody trying to finish offa parfour, can see somebody trying to finish off a parfour, the can see somebody trying to finish off a par four, the first of the season. did he get it in? he has. the ball is being retrieved and it is just two inches below. the ball is being retrieved and it isjust two inches below. we the ball is being retrieved and it is just two inches below. we have put special discs in so you do not contaminate one of them. plenty of rules to remember. we are joined contaminate one of them. plenty of rules to remember. we arejoined by two brothers, who have been members at this golf club all their lives. michael and ian smith. good at this golf club all their lives. michaeland ian smith. good morning, gentlemen. we are doing our very best to keep a proper distance from you. how much are you looking forward to playing today? greatly looking forward to it. we have missed golf for the last seven weeks. we have been members of this great club, done forest, for over the last 50 years and our father was a member here as well. there is an important reason you are coming to play together, because you have not been able to see each other, have you, ian? you have been living in different households and this means today you can get together. absolutely. yes, we have had to wave at each other through windows. that is because of the restrictions. it has been fantastic to come here. you are ina has been fantastic to come here. you are in a very difficult position because your other half is shielding. my partner is shielding because she had a stem cell transplant only eight weeks ago. she came out of the christie hospital, so came out of the christie hospital, so she has been shielded and is not able to come out at all. how nice will it be for you, michael, to catch up with your brother?“ will it be for you, michael, to catch up with your brother? it is great. golf is a social game and i am missing playing with him and lots of ourfriends. we am missing playing with him and lots of our friends. we are a' club and it isa of our friends. we are a' club and it is a great club and it is a social club and it is a great sport that everybody looks forward to getting to again. gentlemen, it is lovely to talk to you. i know this clu b lovely to talk to you. i know this club has been a huge part of your life. thank you all very much indeed. it is going to be a glorious day today. if you are lucky enough to bea day today. if you are lucky enough to be a member of a golf club, today will be a great day. a lot of people enjoyed watching nick tee off about an hour ago. it was a beautiful moment. dan, has it gone viral? professional golfer chris wood was watching live and has since been on social media saying the entire shoulders of golf, the entire game, rests on nick's game. at least he connected with the ball. for those of us who don't know, it looked perfect to me. it was brave of him to do that. we could all do with some inspirational stories right now. and, much as he did at chelsea, juventus and sampdoria, gianluca vialli has popped up to deliver the goods atjust the right moment. ican i can already see his glorious smile. i can already see his glorious smile. he's written a book of 90 tales of sportsmen and women who have overcome serious challenges. he's also included his own story of having two lots of treatment for cancer. luca joins us now from west london. thank you so much for coming on, lovely to talk to you. the most important question, you had really good news about being free from pancreatic cancer. how are you feeling today? i feel great, thank you very much, guys. good morning and thank you for my invitation to the show. i feel good, and thank you for my invitation to the show. ifeel good, thank and thank you for my invitation to the show. i feel good, thank you.“ is full of stories and mottoes as well, so do you live by mantras estimate is that one of the things that you love? yes, very much so, i love mantras. i think they capture and condense in a few words the real meaning, the essence of a story. i love stories as well, especially when they are very inspiring, when they are real, when they are exciting, and when they are from remarkable people, whether they are female or male athletes. i thought to put mantras and connect them to remarkable stories would be a very powerful combination and an inspiring one. as you say, my book isa inspiring one. as you say, my book is a collection of my 90 plus one favourite mantras and they are shaped into a story. i hope the readers will find the story is very useful, especially during this time, or whenever they are facing a challenge in their lives, whether it isa challenge in their lives, whether it is a test, an interview, or like in my case, a physical condition, or divorce or anything. these stories hopefully will inspire to choose the right path and deal with everything that happens to them. can you give us an idea of the sort of stories that are in there. obviously, you are in there as well. what stories really sta nd are in there as well. what stories really stand out for you? what will people be able to read? well, i like it when the right story is connected to the right mantra. for example, i very much believe, and this is one of my favourite mantras, that life is 10% of what happens to you and 90% of the way we react to it. i connected that mantra to the story ofan connected that mantra to the story of an italian friend of mine. he used to be a very successful formula 1 driver and then he had an accident and got both legs amputated, but he did not despair. he basically made a plan and became very successful and won several gold medals at the paralympic games. it is a very remarkable story and it shows how you can turn something negative into something positive and get on with life and be happy anyway. there are so life and be happy anyway. there are so many stories in there from all across different sports. i read particularly your story and you are very honest about what happened to you. you have been quite ill. you prepared for it, in some ways like an athlete will prepare? yes, i think i was very lucky. first of all, i believe it is down to the medical team that looks after you. in my case they were fantastic. then they have to give you the right therapy. but i believe the holistic approach is very important, so i think if you are thinking positively and if you do the right things, if you put your mind in the right place, you can multiply the benefits that you get from the therapy, from the drugs. in my case, being an athlete, i had an advantage because i have had to deal with injuries throughout my career, so i set myself some goals and i put my head down and i started thinking positively. my goal was to go through this, i know that everything passes and nothing is permanent, so i used my mentality to try to ove rco m e i used my mentality to try to overcome this problem, this physical condition, and i know thejourney is not over yet, but i am happy that i am here talking to you. it is lovely to have you on the programme. i know lots of our viewers and many others as well were very concerned about you and worried over the last few months. having been through what you have been through and written this book, i would have been through and written this book, iwould imagine have been through and written this book, i would imagine that would be quite a clear perspective on life will stop at the moment there is this big discussion about whether football should come back, whether we should start the premier league, when we should started. are you firmly of the opinion that health is number one priority and that football should almost take a back—seat for the foreseeable future? how do you feel about it?” am notan future? how do you feel about it?” am not an expert, i am not future? how do you feel about it?” am notan expert, iam nota scientist, so i don't have a very firm opinion about what we should be doing with football. i can see both sides of the argument. it is right what you say that health comes first, but i also feel that football could be very useful to help people to think about something else. so, i think we should follow the orders and the advice and the instructions of the experts and hope that they know what they are telling us to do, basically. i think in times of grief and ina basically. i think in times of grief and in a crisis like this football might be able to help people to think about something else, to enjoy some exciting moments and to forget, you know, for 90 minutes about what goes on out there, as long as we can do that in a safe environment without putting any lives at risk.” am just looking behind you because i have been so fascinated by people's book shelves and you have got one of my favourite games at the top. i was going to mention that as well! oh, yes. iam not going to mention that as well! oh, yes. i am not very good at it. we have been playing games, with my wife and two daughters who have been in lockdown for a long time, as you know, as everybody else. we play some games and that is one of them, but i am not particularly good at it. lovely to talk to you. thank you so it. lovely to talk to you. thank you so much. can i say one thing? of course. it is about cancer and it is my personal opinion. i always say to people i do not see it as a fight because the enemy would be too powerful to beat. the way i see it is asa powerful to beat. the way i see it is as a journey with an unwanted travel companion, one that i hope i will outlast eventually and it will leave me alone and let me live the rest of my life and let me die of old age. i think that is my approach. people can stay away or not, but i feel strongly about it. it isa not, but i feel strongly about it. it is a journey and generally you can find yourself a better person.” am sure that will help a lot of people today. it is really lovely to see you. luca's book, goals, is out tomorrow. i can't believe we have known each other for i can't believe we have known each otherfor a long time i can't believe we have known each other for a long time and we have not played that game yet. over the past two years millions of coronation street fans have been engrossed in one of the soap's most memorable storylines, which has highlighted the relatively new offence of "coercive control" within relationships. geoff metcalfe has bullied and humiliated his wife yasmeen, reducing her to a shadow of her former self. it's a situation which came to a head earlier this month. phone rings. emergency, which service do you require? is it fire, police or ambulance? i don't know. hello? ijust killed my husband. but first, we can cross to ian bartholomew and shelley king who portray geoff and yasmeen. it is quite something saying that. we can also talk to teresa parker from the women's aids charity. first of all, this is an incredibly and important emotional part to play, isn't it? well, it is, and it carries with it a huge sense of responsibility. i think both for myself and ian bartholomew because there are people out there who are really experiencing this terrible relationship just like these, and we owe them, we owe something to them. we have to be as real and as honest as we can be. teresa and women's eight have introduced us to people and told us stories that have inspired us to tell the truth. ian mcleod, our producer, has been so supportive and opened doors to us and we can talk to these people. it was a great challenge, but i was going to say i have enjoyed it, but enjoying is not the right word. i have been grateful and have relished the opportunity to open people force my eyes to this almost stealth sort of abuse. an eye-opener is a really good way of describing it because the progression has been very slow in this relationship. it started off very slowly and there has been that slow chipping away of that confidence and reducing, i don't wa nt to confidence and reducing, i don't want to say the word normal, but a normal relationship into something which is quite horrible and cruel. that is right, but through the research we have done and the people who have spoken to us we have learnt that through the research and it does take a long time. in real life it often takes a lot longer, it can be very swift, but it normally takes quite a long time for the real tree of the sort of behaviour to make itself known in a relationship. they we re itself known in a relationship. they were in itself known in a relationship. they we re in love itself known in a relationship. they were in love when they first started, yasmeen and jeff. but as time goes by you start to let go of those barriers that you put up so the person does not see the real person behind the mask, as it were. that is what we have tried to do, to do it ina that is what we have tried to do, to do it in a slow and deliberate way, so do it in a slow and deliberate way, so that it draws the audience in, it makes much more sense in a sense of reality. yes, as shelley was saying, it has been a tough ask. but the thing that has always kept us focused and together telling the story is that it is a very important story is that it is a very important story to tell. let's pick up that point with teresa. for viewers watching it, how important is it and how important is it that it highlights something that people may not be that aware of? the reception that the storyline has had has been absolutely incredible and it is testament to the work and research that the whole team at coronation street have been doing. at women's aid on our live chat we have had women who have contacted us and they have been literally creating the storyline and the reason they understand course of control and are seeking help is that they are seeing what yasmeen is experiencing.“ terms of the response, what has that been like? you can pick up on that. teresa, has that been...? you wanted to come in. may ijust say, yes, relationships like this can go on for as long as 30 years. it is such a slow drip. ijust wanted to pick up a slow drip. ijust wanted to pick up before we go on, on what barty said. that is that they did love each other. we can all experience, or have all experienced at some point in our lives if you reach a certain age, i am 64, you have experienced a relationship which you believed to be unequal in which one of the partners feels that they are giving more than the other, and in that circumstance you begin, in a small world, to exhibit the sort of control, a sort of control, not the sort perhaps that jeff control, a sort of control, not the sort perhaps thatjeff finally reaches, but the point is we have all tried to say, right, you either choose your friend or me, please stay with me because it makes me sad if you go away. i am sure a lot of people can understand this and that is why a lot of people now have been watching this story keenly. do you know what i am saying? yes, the numbers have gone up hugely and i was e—mailed by amnesty the other day to say that their refuge websites have gone up something like 140%. websites have gone up something like 14096. it is clear, there is help out there. ian, really briefly, how does it affect you playing a character like that? i know you are an actor! but does it affect you playing that character? briefly. it has not been easy, you have to go to places that are unpleasant and dark. but the company have helped me with counselling so that i can off—load any angst orangeror counselling so that i can off—load any angst or anger or shame that i might have. no, as i say, it has beena very might have. no, as i say, it has been a very important storyline and the responsibility has kept us going. as shelley said, we have relished the opportunity to be able to tell a story that needs to be told, especially in a time like this, in lockdown, where it is happening a lot more than before.“ is really good to chat to you. i am sorry to cut you off. thank you very much. ian bartholomew, shelley king, and teresa from women's aid. yesterday we had a treat for eurovision fans when our moscow correspondent steve rosenberg played the piano while three members of bucks fizz sang "making yourmind up". it's on our social media if you want to take a look. today, we can bring you another legend of the song contest — bjorn ulvaeus. the abba singer and songwriter has been telling richard collings about how he's been coping with life under lockdown. # waterloo, i was defeated, you won the war... it's this performance nearly 50 years ago that first put abba on the map. but all that is an age away for bjorn ulvaeus. singers and performers across the world are mostly in lockdown. bjorn is not going out much. hello, bjorn, how are you? hello, richard, i'm... i'm fine. you know, it's constantly being reminded about the tragic things that are happening around the world is, is really sad and difficult. but my family, so far, hasn't been... you know, nobody has been infected. but it's very, very difficult not to be able to hug your grandchildren. abba's success spawned the musical mamma mia. but now, the music has gone silent. the musical has been shut down, the actors are on furlough. and we don't know anything about when we can open again. how easy is that going to be, do you think? the west end theatres are just not made for social distancing. it will take a long, long time before people even dare to go out to sit beside other people. the eurovision song contest is cancelled this year, but bjorn says memories are still fresh. eurovision is something very special, because what happened there was, you see success overnight. winning made all the difference. for all the challenges brought about by the covid—19 pandemic, he hopes there could be a positive change in the way we all live. the bigger problem, which is overshadowing everything, climate change, will come up again as the number one problem. i think it was winston churchill who said, never waste a crisis. we're entering a new era, and we should take the opportunity to make that era greener. as in many countries, coronavirus means there are restrictions to life in sweden, but he's still trying to be creative. so, if you go out in stockholm, it's like a choreographed ballet, people are moving as though they have repellents between them. you know, someone moves, and then the other one moves, and then everyone moves. so there's always a distance between them. do you think you could write a musical about that? actually, it's a good idea for a musical number, at least, you know — someone moves and the rest moves, like a flock of birds or something. got a daily slice of eurovision. it was wonderful. that is it from us for today. thank you for watching. good morning, welcome to bbc news. i'm victoria derbyshire — here are the latest headlines this wednesday morning. the coronavirus slump begins — the uk economy has shrunk at its fastest pace since the financial crisis of 2008. it is not a surprise, in common with pretty much every other economy around the world, we're facing severe impact from the coronavirus, you're seeing that in the numbers. it's back to work for some people in england, but not in the rest of the uk. workers are told to avoid public transport, but if that's not possible, to use face coverings and keep their distance from others. the housing market in england comes out of lockdown. buyers and renters can visit estate agents and view properties. france eases lockdown restrictions, despite its death toll from the virus rising above that spain. good morning. seven weeks after the prime minister announced the lockdown, some restrictions are being eased in england. from today, if you work in construction, food

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