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it sells for just over $2,300. that comes out to about $2 a beer. up to you. buy it if you want. celebrate. i'm sandra smith. here's harris faulkner in for shepard smith. >> after a victory, republicans are getting ready for the next battle over healthcare in america. it won't be easy. with one republican senator saying it has zero chance of moving forward. others say it has a bumpy road ahead. we'll have updates from capitol hill and the white house. when chris wallace joins me, i'll ask him how people feel about the changes proposed so far. unemployment just hit its lowest level in a decade. what it means for our economy and your money. are two of the planets most dangerous nations about joining forces? a connection with iran and north kor
korea. and who is trying to kill kim jong-un? the assassination accusation. it's friday. time for the news. i'm harris faulkner in today for shepard smith. you might call it a healthcare hangover. some bracing for changes to a republican healthcare bill that is just barely a day old. it's headed to the senate, as you know. the deputy press secretary said the president expects changes, but wants the main pillars to remain the same. some republican senators have announced they're not going to support the measure without major adjustments. as we watched on fox news, the white house celebrated with a news conference at the rose garden. the house passed the measure 217 to 213. somebody noticed cases of beer being wheeled out through the hall. no some say it could get bumpy. lamar alexander said we'll be writing our own bill. the senate could use the house
measure as a resource for ideas. moderate republican senators have criticized one of the major provisions for rolling back the expansion under obamacare. conservative senators say it doesn't go far much the to replace obamacare. so it works this way. the house passed it, the senate will do its own dance. if changes are made, it goes back to the house for approval. the president declared victory on twitter today. big win in the house, very exciting. when everything comes together with phase two, we'll truly have great healthcare. last night hours after the vote, he said this is a great plan that is a repeal and replace of obamacare, make no mistake about it. john roberts is live for us outside the white house. obviously. good to see you, john. >> good to see you, harris. there's a phase 3 the president didn't talk about in the tweet. he's trying to take this a bite at a time.
he got phase 1 through the house and now looking at phase 2 and needs to get phase 1 through the senate. as you pointed out, yesterday was about the celebration. this is where the process is going next. the president optimistic that he can get this thing through the senate. the big question is, what is it going to look like when it eventually gets through the senate. there's some people on the republican side saying, you know what? i like what the house did. but we're going to do our own bill and start from scratch on all of that. at the briefing a short time ago, i asked the principal deputy who made her debut. let's listen in. >> on the process of getting the american healthcare act through the senate, there's some talk they may have to go back to the drawing board. it's a heavy left getting the hda through the house. does the president expect the process in the senate could be even more difficult? >> i think that the one thing that you can be sure of is to never underestimate this president. he's shown time and time again
when he's committed to something, it's going to get done. he's made no secret. he's committed to reforming the healthcare system. you'll see that process take place. >> the main pillar that sarah huckabee sanders was talking about, quality healthcare, access to healthcare and a lower price and more consistencconsis. >> people are waiting to see in the next phase, the idea of going across state lines for your healthcare. we'll watch for that. what did the white house have to say about how the bill handles people with pre-existing conditions? >> this is a big question that a lot of critics have. the way it's crafted, it allows states to seek a waiver from the mandates of essential healthnd conditions. the president has said on repeated occasions that it absolutely has to cover pre-existing conditions to people that already have an illness have to have access to healthcare. that's one of the reasons why
fred upton of michigan and billy long of missouri came to the white house the other day, because they shared the same concerns. they came up with the plan that would designate a pot of money towards premium support for people with pre-existing conditions. sarah huckabee sanders on that point. >> one of the biggest priorities of this bill particularly for the president was ensuring that people with pre-existing conditions were protected. the final bill added an additional $8 billion to go a step further. >> the big question is whether or not $8 billion is enough to cover all the people that had pre-existing conditions. the white house suggesting, harris, the number of people that go into premium support could be very small compared to the overall population. >> you know what? i want you to stay where you are. we want more from john roberts. the labor department says the jobless rate hit the lowest point in a decade last month. the feds say unemployment was 4.4% in april.
i'm working with john thune on an amendment to address that right now. medicaid, we have to make sure it works for the states that took the expansion. >> ohio senator rob portman not pulling any punches saying he has serious issues with the house bill. he said "i already made clear i don't support the bill as constructed because i can't to have concerns that this bill doesn't do enough to protect ohio's medicaid expansion population and those receiving treatment for heroin and prescription drug abuse". there's 52 republicans in the senate. portman and just about everybody else is really important, harris. >> the american public that voted like single issue on this is kind of anticipating that this is how it works, right? they go around around make some changes. people are not talking about are the democrats and all of the bipartisanship that they talked
about was possible in all of this. it will be -- i'm curious to see how it works out. what is next in the senate? >> bottom line, those that have been talking about healthcare, i'm told they've talked for months on the senate side and what they'll do when they get a bill from the house of representatives. those involved in the talks say they're looking forward to getting cracking. >> we'll move ahead with deliberate speed. we're doing that because exchanges are collapsing and people could be without insurance, premiums go up if we don't act. but we want to get it right. there's no artificial deadlines. we'll carefully consider the legislation passed by the house. >> we heard about democrats talking about improving obamacare. some democrats said they're willing to talk with republicans about improvement if not quite repeal and replacement of obamacare. >> it's important to get it into the senate. if we take healthcare seriously, we'll put the bill in the
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changes. i want your view on what people should be bracing for or ready for. >> well, there's going to be winners and losers. let's make it clear at the start. this is assuming that the house bill becomes the law. it won't become the law as you just reported. there will be changes in the senate. assuming what was passed by the house yesterday became the law, there would be winners and losers. young healthy people would be better off. their premiums would go down. older people, their premiums would go up. people with pre-existing conditions, it's not clear. they would have more to worry about than under obamacare, whether it was a flat regulation, you could not charge people with pre-existing conditions any more than people that did have the conditions. >> harris: i asked our team here to get a list. this will vary by state. lupus, alcohol abuse, alzheimer's, arthritis.
the list is long in pre-existing conditions and could vary by states for the reasons that you spoke of. a last word on that and then we'll move on. >> a lot we don't know in this in the house bill because of the fact that some states would decide to live by the federal mandates that will continue to ban any discrimination against people with pre-existing conditions. but there's state waivers. if states can justified to the federal government, they can drop out of a lot of these things, pre-existing conditions, essential health benefits. there's this insurance mandate under obamacare that everything from mental health to maternity care, all have to be covered in every insurance policy. if states decide to take the waiver, they can say we'll take this part of the essential benefits and drop them. and an insurance company in oklahoma can say we're not going to live by the essential benefits in oklahoma. we're going to take the
essential benefits in arizona. so it really is going to be a very different and much more checkered playing field than what you have under obamacare. >> harris: sure. then you have the players like rand paul, the senators, ted cruz that said you have to repeal it all and start over. you have mayor key people that we need to watch. you have lisa murkowski of alaska that doesn't like the medicaid point. let's talk about the six or seven senators to keep our eye on and what we're watching for. >> on the one hand, you have the hardliners. rand paul, ted cruz, mike lee. they were quiet yesterday. they didn't say it doesn't go far enough. in the past they have said they don't want government regulation of healthcare. even with this bill, with all the changes, repeal and replace, a lot of government regulation of healthcare. so it will be interesting to see how far they're willing to go or are they going to push for more.
on the other hand, you have more moderate people, like lisa murkowski of alaska. >> harris: susan collins. she's another one. >> yeah. particularly in states that agreed to the medicaid expansion, which meant that people that previously haven't been covered by medicaid now were because they were above an income level. they're worried medicaid expansion will be rolled back if the house bill becomes law and they have hundreds of thousands of constituents in their states that have healthcare coverage under obamacare that would lose it with the roll back of medicaid expansion. they're not going to want to see that happen. that really gets tough. that is one of the things that absolutely had to happen in the house. remember, whatever the senate comes back with and dramatically different than the house, then they have to find a way to reconcile in a conference committee the senate version and the house version. as we saw the house version, which is more conservative than
the senate version, it passed with one vote. anything to change the bill changes the balance of power in the house. >> harris: so those are potentially republicans on the bubble. what about democrats? anybody that could be pulled over? >> there's some that are talking about it. john tesser of montana, some of the conservative democrats, particularly those that are facing re-election in states that donald trump won facing re-election in 2018 in the mid-terms. i have to tell you, there's not been a democrat so far that has gone with this. yes, i understand that it's hard to oppose president trump in a state that he carried if you're a democrat. on the other hand, it's hard to go something called obamacare repeal and replace if you're a democrat. you'll lose a lot of your own voters in your state. >> harris: while you were talking, president trump tweeted this out. of course the australians have better healthcare than we do.
everybody does. obamacare is date but healthcare will soon be great. this has just gone out. we've been keeping up with him, as we all do. especially on a friday afternoon after his deputy press secretary has spoken to the media. we get new information. i want the get your response to that before i let you go. >> yeah, well, what this is about is that yesterday in his meeting with the australian prime minister, the president said well, i have to admit you have better health insurance now than we do. he went on to say but ours will get better after this repeal and replace. the key there, this is what people like bernie sanders noted, the australian plan is single payer like in britain and canada. while the president and his people are saying, he was being polite to the prime minister, they're saying, well, yeah, single player government-run healthcare is better than any system than we'll have under obamacare repeal and replace.
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are sharing information about their missile programs. earlier this week iran tried and failed to launch a missile under water and failed. it was the first time they tried to do that and said the submarine system was based on a north korean system. let's bring in general jack keane, a fox news military analyst. general, thanks for joining us today. >> glad to be here. >> harris: how concerned are you about these two in particular getting together and is this evidence strong in your point of view? >> oh, yeah. overwhelmingly so. this is a 20-plus year close relationship. the iranians are following the north korean playbook about as close as you can. the north koreans in the 90s negotiated to us, lying about their nuclear intentions. they went back to developing a
nuclear weapon. in 2003, they declared they had it. the iranians saying they're only building nuclear power for energy, not weapons. they had secret sites. what happened in iran, we found them because of informants. they were exposed. they followed the exact playbook. their missiles are exact replicas by and large of north korean missiles. their nuclear technology is north korean technology. they both want to have nuclear weapons to be sure. the iranians have never given up on that. they both want ballistic missile s and fire them from the surface and subsurface. north korean is leading the technology effort on all of that. >> harris: general, the american public has been told to believe there's so many immediate imminent threats. first it was the islamic state
savages. talk about the urgency now and the reporting that we're also witnessing in this era about iran and north korea. >> well, iran, i believe, is a major threat in the middle east. middle more so than radical islamics that are a clear threat. we see the evidence of that all the time. they run around the world killing people. the iranians are a more serious threat. they have conventional military, they have missiles, developing ballistic missiles and they want a nuclear weapon. according to the deal that the previous administration made, they are likely to get nuclear weapons unless this administration puts a stop to it. so yes, that is a major concern for us. the iranians threat in the middle east and the north korean threat in the far east and our bases and our allies also a major threat to us. >> harris: are you confident that president trump gets this? i want to talk with you about the news that he dropped. that is that he's getting ready
to make his first trip as president overseas and he's going to the middle east. the very place you're talking about right now. how does that inform you about the confidence that you may have in this president moving forward? >> first of all, he absolutely gets the danger of both of these threats. all of his national security advisers have been speaking out about the threats. obviously the president put the military option back on the table and is negotiating with the chinese. that's a plus. this trip to the middle east is a big deal. he making a statement that the middle east is a priority for me. he's going to make a statement that i have israel's back and i have the sunni arab's back in the middle east and we're going to stand up against radical islam and counter the iranians. that is not the position of the previous administration. that is going to be so well-received by our allies. the israelis doubted the previous administration's commitment. the sunnis were convinced that
the united states had moved away from their previous security commitment. >> what about the president's authorization of this military to do what it needs to do? i have to let you go quickly but not without asking you about that. what is difference between now and what we previously had? >> it's about trust in confidence in our commanders to do things within their conflict area, let them make the decisions. they don't have to ask permissions. they have the resources and capabilities and great troops. leave them alone. judge them by their results. couldn't be better. >> harris: general jack keane, thanks for joining us with your expertise. >> good talking to you. >> a u.s. navy seal was killed in a fierce gun bat until somalia. this comes after a time when u.s. forces are in harm's way all over the middle east. president trump is encouraging more aggressive military action in the region and we just reported he's going there. he wants to wipe out terrorist
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u.s. commanders say they got the authority to launch yesterday's operation during the obama administration. an interesting note as well. leland vittert is live at the pentagon. >> clearly something went very wrong during this overnight raid. the pentagon is not sure what it was. they were targeting a compound that al shabaab used to launch attacks against americans and other targets inside africa in general. reuters is reporting that the real target was a leader that played a key role in an attack on a local university in kenya that had 150 dead. most of the dead christians. a $5 million bounty on his head. the seals were advising soldiers and flew in by helicopter 40 miles east of the capitol. early during this assault, down
on the coast is when they took heavy fire and the american died. >> we first and foremost want to express our deepest condolences and deepest appreciation for all of the men and women in the military. >> now, the pentagon says they still don't know if the mission was a success in terms of kill and capture for the al shabaab leader that they were looking for. we have a lot of history in somalia. this is the first american combat death in somalia since 1993. >> leland, thank you. the political panel is here. sarah linty, from the national security council under condoleezza rice. and david defury, a former state department official. good to have you both. sarah, this is interesting because what happened yesterday
was actually kind of a leftover in terms of authorization from the obama administration. but definitely what happens going forward, president trump is taking a very different path in places like somalia. >> he is. he turned military operations over to the pentagon, to be left to their discretion. in my humble opinion, this is a good thing. when it comes to difficult tactical operations, i think decisions are best made in the hands of military professionals like secretary defense mattis. it's a pivot. >> harris: what is interesting, david, president obama, formerly, was often criticized for not being clear about what his brand of foreign policy was with regard to some of these nations and certainly fighting isis and others in that part of the world. we heard him spill out words like j.v. team. i don't want to go far down that road, but i want your idea on
how much more on point do you think that this current president is and your opinion on that. >> look, this change in approach may be a welcome one. i traveled to iraq frequently. special forces that we have there that are fighting isis in iraq often chased about the rules of engagement with a cagey opponent like isis that makes all sorts of changes in strategy. it's good for the war fighters on the ground to have discretion about how they will fight back against isis and how they're going to defeat isis. that's a positive. i agree that president obama was slow to create a plan for fighting isis, but actually in the last year of his administration and certainly towards the end of his administration, he was doing a very good job of fighting isis. he planned the campaign to liberate mosul. that's going well. we're pretty close to pushing isis out of iraq. they remain in two cities other than mosul. we will be successful there.
so let's continue that plan. the loosening of rules of engagement can be a positive. it's important to have some restrictions on the military to make sure we don't have is a civilian deaths. if we lose the war of ideology, we will lose the war against isis. >> harris: so there was a lot in what you just said that was critical and in defense of the former president. let's toss up the current president's words about what you call a loosening and what others see a broadening in terms of how much he's listening to our generals. this is what -- >> the greatest military in the world and their done their job as usual. they have total authorization. that's what they're doing. that's why they've been so successful lately. if you look at what has happened over the last eight weeks in compare that to what has happened the last eight years, you'll see there's a tremendous difference. >> harris: i love shep.
they let the president say it instead of me, which is good. let's talk about that authorization now that is different. i want to go back to you, sarah. president obama was criticized for not listening to hisnerals. is president trump doing that? >> well, i want to go back to 2013 when there was a chemical weapons attack in syria and president obama's team did not act. they dithered. what we saw a month ago in syria was the president making a decision, turning it over to the military that affected effectively, efficiently and got out. it was a stellar example of what i think we're going to see. more of what we'll see under this administration. so i think we saw i play out a month ago and we'll so i it heretofore. >> harris: that flies in the face of what you said, david, this could save lives in terms of military and civilians, we would hope, too, because it's
more pinpoint. get in, get out. your thoughts. >> one of the biggest mistakes of president obama was not acting in syria in 2013. i agree. president trump was right to do the missile strikes that he did a month ago. but it's still confusing what the president plan is for syria. it's confusing as to whether his policy is for assad to step down or not. it should be that as sad should step down. we should be using force in syria. you know, we're supposedly sending more troops to syria, taking the fight to the assad regime and to isis. let's see how this goes. so far the president has waffled a little bit on syria. >> harris: it is interesting as we look at the situation with north korea and around the world and people think this president is serious about using firepower. that's one thing that syria did prove that he will do it. thanks very much. we'll have you back another day. thanks for your time. north korean officials, speaking of which, accusing the cia of
plotting with south korean intelligence to assassinate kim jong-un with some sort of biochemical weapon. according to a state from the north's ministry of state, agents bribed a north korean and turned him into a terrorist of revenge against the supreme leadership of the people's democratic leader of north korea. this comes after mike pompeo visited the capitol. and as tensions rise. greg palkot is live with more. greg? >> hi, harris. it's far-fetched. but if it had happened, we would have had a front row seat. kim jong-un, the leader of north korea, was supposed to have been targeted at a military parade last month, which we attended. according to the story, the cia and the south korean counterpart said to turn a man over, pay him
off and gear him up and arm him with a dirty bomb containing radioactive material and then kill the leader of this very public event. we speak with a spokesperson for the cia. they declined to comment on the report. we spoke to an expert. he said it's all propaganda. we can tell you security was pretty tight at that event. it's not completely outlandish. we have seen reports of u.s. military exercises that they call the decaptation of the regime. that is practicing to go to pyongyang and do something like this. also, the experts say that probably the best way for the regime to fall might be an internal coup, probably while kim jong-un is perhaps so ruthless and a little bit paranoid. back to you, harris. >> harris: thanks, greg. the notorious drug lord el chapo is complaining about hallucinations and the exercise
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>> it could be a year before notorious drug lord joaquin el chapo guzman gets his day in court. today he went before a fell -- federal judge in brooklyn. his attorneys are complaining about his living conditions. they say the drug lord is hallucinating, hearing music while in solitary confinement. the other complaints, the jail's exercise bike faces away from the tv and he's not allowed to see his wife. federal officials say the restrictions are necessary because he escaped prison twice in mexico. one time there an underground tunnel. trace gallagher is live with more.
it's hard to pity anybody who has done what he's done allegedly, trace. >> and harris, you mentioned that he never sees his wife. today his wife was in court and our producener the courtroom said he spent a lot of time looking at her. he wore head phones during the hearing to hear the translation and the first order was business is to make sure that he was aware of a potential conflict of interest. turns out his current lawyers work in the same building with attorneys that represented witnesses that may testify against him. el chapo told the judge that he was happy with his current legal time. his lawyers did complain when they visited him in a federal jail, they have to stay behind thick plexiglass. that makes it hard for them to go over documents with him. experts say for safety purposes, it's unlikely that they will be allowed in the same cell. for now, el chapo spends 23 hours a day in a windowless cell, an hour in an exercise cell and he's not happy with the
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>> harris: president trump is spending the weekend at his golf club in jersey an hour west of manhattan. he's doing new yorkers and all american as favor. rather than causing a big disruption in new york city, i'll be working in my home in new jersey. save the country money. and from one jersey mom to another person, hello. >> hello to you, harris. he's saving the city of new york money as far as the sleepovers are concerned. the township of bedminster is going to take a hit but not for too long. the secret service is in charge of the overall operation using local resources to protect the president with state police and other regional law enforcement agencies. this why know. but bedminster which has a
population under 9,000 has a police force of 16 officers which is including police chief. as the mayor told us, an average weekend of the presidential visit will cost the township about $42,000. >> that may not sound like much if you're in new york city or florida for those costs, but for a town like bedminster, each visit is 1/2% of our budget. not police budget or overtime budget but total town budget. >> okay. so this sleepy rural community will be getting some relief. president trump signed a budget bill today that will target $61 million to reimburse local law enforcement to protect the president whether his in palm beach, new york or bedminster. while not every resident is happy about the high profile neighbor, one says it's great. one local deli owner says he's ready to name a hero after the commander-in-chief. >> let him come in. he can order a sandwich and it
will be named after him. >> so what he orders, it will be named after him? >> that's the way this started back in 82. >> so we could have a president trump sandwich? >> absolutely. yes. >> hasn't happened yesterdt. we'll let you know. >> harris: have a great weekend. back after this. natural cheese on one side, and sweetness on the other. new sargento sweet balanced breaks, find it in our cheese section. we asked people to write down the things they love to do most on these balloons. travel with my daughter. roller derby.
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UnemploymentChangesEconomyLevelMoneyForcesIranPlanetsConnectionNationsTwoHarris-faulknerforgotten he was going to break the north korean sanction news there was so much other stuff. he spoke to reporters before he even got to the event. and i see what you mean about dliewght the message. juan, what was most offensive part of the speech? >> juan: seven years to go. [laughter] for an old man you are risking a heart attack. >> dana: are you going to make it? >> juan: seven years to go. the cpac audience went wild. so this was a rally. that's what i thought it was going to be and i think his staff thought it was going to be something about increasing sanctions on north korea. as you say, he has kind of got to it at the very end. but as an after thought. he was far more interested in to pick up on the steak house analogy of throwing out the chunks of red meat everywhere he turned. i was surprised that he was throwing out chunks though that had to do with things like democrats abandon daca. i'm the one who cares. wait a minute, he is the one who ended daca and set this
march deadline. now he finds himself in a situation the deadline is approaching and he has got nothing. and the democrats are willing to take a risk. i hope they are having a little more spine than they did last time when schumer backed out on that budget deal. and then this business about lock her up. jesse, it just seems to me like, you know, what would you say, greg, i said a 1970s hit. do you know what i mean? we have been through that. but he still. >> greg: it's his free bird. >> kimberly: oldy but a goody. classic rock. >> jesse: snake. >> juan: it's like he is going back. he needs a hillary. he needs an obama. because he just needs somebody to be -- >> jesse: kimberly, i think every politician has a boogie man out there, whether it's at home or abroad that they use to score points against. and hillary continues to be out there in the conversation. so why not take a shot? >> juan: she lost. >> jesse: say that again,
that's human psychology one-on-one. he was explaining why you lose in two years in a way at people at home understands. oh, it's so much work you already won. that's the best so persuasive, i think. you are looking at me like i'm from out of space. >> juan: this looks how unprepared is he for the job. never been a congressman and senator or governor. oh this is really hard. who knew healthcare could be so complicated? to me this is subject of ridicule. >> greg: at least that's honest. >> juan: honest, oh my gosh. >> dana: working on policies good foreve for our opponents. may not realize those policies are good for them but we are doing it anyway. i thought that was effective. >> jesse: said a few nice things he said about keeping his promise. he bragged obviously, the only politician that's actually kept more promises than he made during the campaign. but when you look back,
besides the wall, a lot of the stuff he has delivered on and the audience really enjoyed that. >> kimberly: they did. he is a man of the people even though he is a new york billionaire. he's relatable because his language, his rhetoric isn't like floury. flowery. it's down to earth. something for everybody there this is my guy. he is not trying to talk above me. not trying to talk around me. making me feel like i'm here for you. we have got things in common. i'm getting it done. that's like a reassuring feeling. it's not like the typical politician where you go i can't relate to that person at all. >> juan: can i play skunk at the garden party for a second? >> kimberly: be yourself. i can smell from here. >> juan: i think he promised to do away with obamacare. >> jesse: mandate is gone. the mandate is long gone, juan. >> juan: obamacare is real
scott walkner johnson thinking about getting out. infrastructure. i don't see any infrastructure spending, no. >> jesse: if democrats could come to the table, juan, you would actually get some infrastructure. >> juan: how about i promise to cut the deficit. the minute i get in there e oh. >> jesse: just wind isis off the map. how about that promise. >> greg: amazing democrats care about a deficit and trump did that for them. what kimberly and dana and juan says the presentation is an old school populist. gets up there and he is tell you this is what we are going to do when you pull back the reason we have disagreements all of you was do. almost everything he does is common sense centrism. he talk presidency enforced border and 1.7 million people. talks about gun talking about popular proactive solutions that some the nra might not like. tax reform, if people think
that really helped the rich, they're wrong. >> dana: can i add one other thing he did today it wasn't in the cpac speech but in his press conference with martin turnbull. he talked briefly but it was interesting insight into that he is getting the briefings and he understands what's happening in syria. and he said it was disgraceful. 250 innocent people that we know of were killed targeted by russians and syrians and we have a huge mess on our hands there the one thing that's a little bit difficult to understand is he says that but also in the same speech or in the preference he says, you know, we have degraded isis. we have taken over their territory and we're out of there. that is not sustainable. both of those things cannot be true u going forward in a second year of a presidency your foreign policy pieces get really important and little bit difficult to deal with. >> jesse: absolutely right. >> juan: before we go, it's kind of a serious note there are stories now that indicate that the russians
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still inside the building? >> yes, he was. >> and what should he have done? >> went in. addressed the killer. killed out killer. >> how much time went by that he did not go in that he could have gone in? >> minutes, minutes. i think it was upwards -- i think he remained outside of upwards of four minutes. >> what would you say to the family. >> devastated, sick to my stomach. there are no words. >> kimberly: president trump also had words about that officer today. >> he whole life example. when it came time to get in there and do something, he didn't have the courage or something happened. he heard it right at the beginning. so he certainly did a poor job. that's the case where somebody was outside. they're trained. they didn't react properly under pressure or they were a coward. it was a real shot to the police department. >> kimberly: the president addressing, obviously everybody devastated.
can you imagine the family members and -- these poor students that were murdered to think my god, you could have done something if you reacted. how many lives could have you saved? what could have you done but, instead you stood and tried to protect yourself instead of trying to save others, which is your duty? >> greg: there is a couple of elements to this whole story that are just infuriating. and it makes me infuriated at sheriff israel because he said there are no words. but when he was up at that town hall, he had a lot of words for dana loesch. there were 18 calls from people about this guy. there were nearly 40 home visits. two tips to the fbi. you found out scott peterson had warnings passed on to him about this mad man before. this the fbi tip was pretty incredible. said the guy was going to explode. then have you sheriff israel deflect -- trying to get the audience at that town hall to focus on dana loesch. and like this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't for guns, guns, guns.
meanwhile, if he is aware of all of this stuff. >> dana: what about him? >> greg: this guy has got to go. this is like -- this is -- i mean, scott peterson, who knows what happens when this moment comes, do you freeze, if he freeze, he did have prior knowledge about this. and their job for the police is they have to be the first one in there. they rush in so we can run away. and he didn't do it. >> kimberly: yet others that had no weapon rushed in to try to. >> greg: rotc guys. >> kimberly: rushed in and tried to save the coach and others rushed in and had nothing to defend or protect themselves. unbelievable to me. dana? >> dana: like a fire firefighter saying i'm not going in that burning house to save somebody. hang out out here. the thing that also bothers me about that sheriff. i didn't say anything on the day publicly, but he was so infuriating about and offputting thanking all of
the first responders answered went through all of them. and did you such a good job. you did such a good job. and every single press conference for three days is great how everybody else had done. in the meantime whether they didn't know about this until recently or trying to cover it up is so devastating for the family. >> just that point i think it was jake tapper tweeted some information that they -- like deliberately egg northward the people that actually got there first. it was another county of officers. >> allegedly there was another police department that had gotten there first and did a lot in terms of first responding. and the sheriff israel kind of ignored that. he is a very political guy. he seems to be a real operator where you don't want that. you want more law enforcement. i have seen pictures of him smiling with hillary, smiling with bernie sanders. you know, i'm not accusing him of anything, that's not what i -- out of a sheriff, i just want a straight shooter. i have a few words for him. he said i have no words. how about i'm sorry? how about we failed. i would have liked to hear a
little accepting responsibility with his deputy that didn't do his job. >> kimberly: he should go. >> jesse: he should go. when they found out that this guy was derelict. they just suspended him. they didn't even really fire him. you probably can't even fire someone. and now the guy retires with full benefits. the fact that state, local and federal agencies all failed. yet all the sudden they want to blame the nra makes no sense to me here. >> kimberly: okay, juan? >> juan: i thought he was trying to blame the fbi. >> jesse: the fbi should accept some blame, too they have more than the sheriff. >> juan: let me just say it's so easy to blame someone else. you think about it, jesse, almost a million calls. a million calls. they have got to pick a needle out of that haystack. that can be difficult especially when you are dealing with laws in florida. today a lookout of discussion about this so-called baker act which allows you to involuntarily take somebody and commit them because you see them as a trust danger to themselves or danger to others.
well, apparently, psychiatric officials had contact with this young man but couldn't pass that threshold. and that threshold can be pretty tough. and i would think that conservatives would say yeah, we don't want people just somehow bad mouthing us or saying stuff about us and taking away either our guns or our liberty. >> jesse: i would think those people who evaluated him are probably feeling pretty bad about that right now. >> juan: i don't know. i think though on the guns part. i think back to columbine. i think to aurora. i think to what the president said today in light of what happened with the guard here in parkland, in every case, there was an armed guard. it didn't stop anything. >> greg: aurora was a gun-free zone. i think it's going to be hard politically for liberals to watch if donald trump outflanks them on this issue and actually comes up with the practical solutions that they claimed that they wanted but haven't put through. >> kimberly: bad news for
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olympics. use her visit for maximum pressure on the north. so, jesse, turning off the heat. >> jesse: ratcheting up. i like how the trump administration has slowly delivered stronger and stronger sanctions without letting the north know there is a phase ii. maybe there is a phase 3. how many phases are there going to be the way a python squeezes its prey very slowly over period of time. >> greg: for a frog in a pot of water slowly boiled. >> jesse: apropos. you have ivanka trump coming with the soft power glitz and gram. >> dana: substance too. [laughter] >> jesse: not as substantive as the gun ships encircling the peninsula. i think it's carrot and stick. >> dana: juan, one of the things interesting about the timing of the announcement is when vice president pence was headed to the olympics, he made some very strongly worded speeches about north korea and being tough.
knew what happened at the opening ceremony. ivanka trump is going for the closing ceremony. the head military intel guy from north korea is also going to the closing ceremony. and so i think it was a strategic move to put these sanctions out today as she is landing in south korea. >> juan: well, i'm not sure what's going on because, remember, they cancelled the meeting -- they thought pence was going to have a meeting. they cancelled that meeting at the last moment. now, there is no such prospect for ivanka trump. there is no such meeting scheduled. she will have, i think it's dipper or something with the south korean president. >> dana: yeah, tomorrow. >> juan: at his residence. the big event will be closing night for the closing ceremonies. you will have the two of them. ms. perino complained last time about vice president pence's seating tell us why. >> dana: i did. because i felt they put him in a bad position. i would have advocated for a different seating arrangement. >> juan: the question is now they can be seated.
president trump is not there so we won't have to worry about the bald spot. >> dana: that's a small little thing. >> juan: they are not going to talk. the question is how it comes across. i think it's a lot of symbolism that she is there representing the president very much his number one child. >> dana: sanctions, kimberly we must have some idea the intelligence communities must know north korea hasn't tried to stop its nuclear program at all. >> kimberly: of course, right. they are getting realtime intelligence on this and updates as they should. they have to monitor it very closely. they are obviously receiving information showing they are not in compliance and therefore these kind of actions need to be taken. i like the fact that look we are being very well represented by ivanka trump. she is going there. and the president was obviously very proud of her to represent the country so i think that was nice. i'm glad that he sent his daughter. i think that's symbolic. send a strong woman over there. represent the country. while at the same time putting the fist to north
korea. >> dana: greg, had you a good point in the commercial break. it's a new cold war tactic. old tactic for the new cold war? >> greg: declaring war on companies not just the country we have to go after the chinese banks which is going to be an issue. if i wanted to walk across the studio, but each step -- each successive step became half the length of the previous step, i would never reach the wall. do you know that? that's what these sanctions are there is an endless spectrum of intensity. and the hope is that you never reach the wall, which is the war. so the point is you have -- we hear this is the biggest one yet. each one will always be the biggest one yet. >> jesse: i like my python analogy better. >> greg: i was mad you took the python one. that's what the snake poem was about. i'm certain if we do go to war with north korea we will win because have you seen how they march? they can't get very far that
way. >> dana: like they are taking half a step back. >> greg: very slow, right, juan? juan juan if i'm living in south korea or japan i'm thinking yeah you might not get hurt but what about else? >> greg: i know. i was trying to make a serious topic a little lighter. i failed, america. >> dana: we'll keep going on some serious topics. california is in president trump's crosshairs again. you will find out why next. ♪ try to get it while we can ♪ names in a tattoo ♪ or just a number on a hand ♪e or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424. that's it!girl! get it, woo, yeah! mom! my game's over. parents aren't perfect, but then they make us kraft mac & cheese and everything's good again.
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and the protection of these horrible criminals in california and other places. but in california that if we ever pulled our ice out. if we ever said hey, let california alone. let them figure it out for themselves, in two months they would be begging for us to come back. they would be begging and you know what? i'm thinking about doing it. >> juan: democrat dianne feinstein fired back saying the president's obsession with california is growing more outrageous by the day. his attacks are, quote patently false. kimberly? >> kimberly: yeah. i think it's kind of funny. is that bad? >> juan: no, no. >> kimberly: he gets upset about this. he doesn't like california and a lot of the politicians pon aggressive against him. they want to sue him about the wall and environmental reasons. they are upset because they feel they don't like his immigration policy. this is essentially the birthplace, the capital of sanctuary cities, right, with san francisco and the crimes that have happened. so they are a state that's
very vocal and critical about the president, his policies. what he has been able to accomplish and what he is intending to accomplish like building the wall. so, because of that, they get his focus and attention. so he says things like that that perhaps not, you know, something that you would like to hear. but this is his personality. this is who he is. >> juan: wow, that was interesting. i mean you don't totally agree? >> i didn't say that i'm explaining to you where is he coming from based on the relationship which is a little bit complicated and has not been quite receptive. it's not his state. >> juan: so should chicago and philly be on the watch for a trump pay back? >> it's possible. i don't think it's an empty threat. you could hear the anger in his voice. he is very frustrated with california. california and the trump administration on a collision course. we are going to get a crash course in federalism if this continues. they have gone after him as they said on environmental on illegal immigration. on judges.
a travel ban a few times. >> kimberly: ninth circuit. >> jesse: makes for entertaining discourse. at the same time california has been mismanaged by liberals. they have been run by liberals for decades. they are broke. there is a very high crime rate. homeless population is out of control. a lot of depend dense on the government there all they have is weather, great food, and great land scaption. so to make california out to be this paragon of virtue. it's just not drew. someone else should come in and take charge there because i mean, if it keeps going the way it's going we might not have a lot of the beautiful parts of california anymore. >> juan: just a quick question. short on time. silicon valley, hollywood? >> jesse: amazing parts of california, juan, not everyone lives like hollywood and silicon valley. >> juan: pretty successful. their economy is pretty amazing to me. anyway, dana, jerry brown, current governor of california, signed a california values act that
forbids local authorities from asking about immigration status. this was back in december so it would seem that the president is putting it to jerry brown. i'm going to take away your ice agents or you undo that law. >> dana: right. if the president is spit ballinblowing ideas told by chif counsel actually sir you are not allowed to do that it doesn't necessarily matter from a communications standpoint he is trying to make his case. can constantly go back and said i would have taken them out of there. they deserves it i had to keep them. in becomes rhetorical device. it does send a strong message and other states would probably take a second look and wants to back away from the hot stove. >> juan: so we have two california people on this panel. one of them is greg gutfeld. >> greg: that's correct. thank you for noticing that every option on the table. why captains we use nukes? what's the problem with using nukes? and why can't we build a wall?
you brought up california as a californian, it's depressing to me because i loved growing up there. it was the best -- probably the best time to live in california was during the 1970s. it was fantastic. it was this -- it was great. it was cheap. now it's not. i can't live there. but now. >> jesse: you can't afford it. >> kimberly: new york is really inexpensive. >> greg: california is in a crappy situation literally. san francisco i believe spent something like $30 million cleaning up homeless feces and syringes. >> kimberly: it wasn't like that when i was first lady. >> greg: ever watched that show called my 600-pound life? california is that person. it's too big to move. so everyone else is moving. everyone is leaving. silicon valley in hollywood. you are talking about the ultimate example in economic inequality. stockton right now is going to an act of universal based income because people they don't know how to deal with people not having jobs.
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i could have been in a lot of trouble. >> kimberly: got your dad in trouble right now. >> dana: no statute of limitations in new york. >> jesse: it wasn't in new york. >> greg: i'm going to do a search. juan? >> juan: one thing that stands out in my mind, i once had an editor who used to just ride me. >> jesse: come on, keep it clean. >> juan: when i said ride you can do better. come o, come on. you can be an astronaut. what are you doing? and i remember thinking that's a wake-up call. take advantage. >> greg: tough bosses are good. i have always said that kimberly. >> jesse: usually are space spaced. >> kimberly: indeed. i don't know. i'm trying to think of something really really really good. i don't know that i have something really really good. but like thoughtful acts in general? >> greg: someone very kind to you you will never forget. like a short talk show host who might have lent you some food when you were hungry.
>> kimberly: so dana. [laughter] but i think of nice things. i thought of right away because i have been super into them and missing them like when dana will give me little presents like my chocolate. >> dana: edwin marks chocolate. >> kimberly: salted caramels and for no reason and little things. >> dana: oh, yeah. >> greg: kindest thing kimberly told me yesterday the producers are scared of me. i went upstairs and asked my staff for the g.g. show. have you ever heard anybody saying in like that? one of the producers from the five described you as very difficult and used the d. word. >> jesse: woe. >> greg: diva. this is the whole side of this i had never experienced like me. >> dana: kindest thing. >> greg: am i difficult? >> jesse: you don't know you are difficult?
>> kimberly: you don't know that you are. >> greg: i'm the easiest person in the world. >> kimberly: you are totally insane. you are also very quirky. you also have a lot of issues with your, you know, gas astro intestinal high pro-con drhypochondria. >> greg: i just want to do things. >> jesse: you don't know you are difficult? >> greg: this is all going back to the fact i have two one more things i did them faster than you guys do your one. >> kimberly: you do it regularly and they are afraid to stand up to you to go hey. >> juan: can't fault him on self-awareness. >> greg: i'm never going to forget. this it was very helpful to know what people think but all i'm saying. >> kimberly: i'm the thought 68 one by pointing out your -- >> greg: having never been to new york city. what is the one thing you would advise a first-time tourist to do.
oh, that's so tempting. all right, kimberly. >> kimberly: here? >> greg: yes. >> kimberly: i think like going to broadway in new york is a very quintessential. >> greg: boo. i'm saying boo but go ahead. >> kimberly: experience. >> greg: juan? >> juan: walk. this is a great city for walking. >> kimberly: the park. >> juan: walk among the billions. the towers. it's incredible place. and if you want to go down to the world trade center and look at the new world trade center is pretty attractive. times square awesome. go up town and to like to the tombs and so forth. this is amazing. go to the churches. man, i tell you what, there are architectural wonders to god in this city. >> greg: what about you, jesse? >> jesse: i would say come right outside of fox and wave to us as we are doing the show right there and then wait for dana and greg to leave and give them big hugs as they leave the
studio. they love that they absolutely love that. >> greg: love big hugs especially if you are really big and crush our spines. dana? >> dana: i would say central park has off leash hours from 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. >> greg: what about the dogs? >> dana: go to the park and can you see all the fun that the dogs are having and have a nice walk around. >> kimberly: then you can wish you were a dog. >> dana: that's going to be in a guide book. can you come to me for the real stuff. >> greg: what i would advise first-time tourists to do hail a new york city cab. get in, go to the airport and get the hell out of here. go to some place sunny. and some place nice. don't come to new york. it's overrated. deign danel i love it. >> jesse: mayor gutfeld. >> greg: yes. one more thing is up next. ♪ milky way bar ♪ wherever you are ♪ real milk chocolate ♪ chewy caramel.
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producers when they say one more thing. i do one more thing. >> juan: that's very good about you. talk about a hail mary. you know i love sports. here's the head master of a catholic school dressed about to perform a basketball miracle. take a look. yes. look at this, he gets on his knees, i'm telling you, a lot of nba players will be pointing to the heavens after that shot. the video gone viral. game over. three points for the head master. >> kimberly: that's so cool. >> greg: nice shot. knicks need to sign him. >> kimberly: i have a very sweet one more thing about a very special little girl. her name is charlotte. she's 9 years old. and she has a big heart and a lot of talent. she's started her own company called "stitches by charlotte" and she creates customized dolls for children undergoing medical procedures and surgeries. and her inspiration came from her own experiences because she had to go four different
surgeries to correct a cleft, lip and palate. she has on-line crowd funding and already raised $50,000. she's very grateful for everything, it means she can bring more smiles to young patients going through procedures. i think it's very, very sweet what she's doing. charlotte gold is her name. >> jesse: speaking of dolls, dana? >> dana: how nice! charlotte gold was actually on "the daily briefing" and i had a picture marking the 100th episode of that 2:00 show "the daily briefing." thank you. i mean -- >> greg: just three months. >> dana: not that big of deal. >> greg: three months and one week. i don't care anymore! your opinions mean nothing to me. >> jesse: thank you. for two more things -- >> greg: go ahead, i'm sorry. >> dana: that's all i had. >> jesse: she had one. >> greg: i only have one one more thing and i have 90 seconds. >> kimberly: you've been shamed into behaving. >> greg: i'll do a very slow one
more thing. >> dana: going to miss the news. >> greg: tomorrow night 10:00 p.m. we got lieutenant colonel alan west. always entertaining. we have federalist payton. it will be very exciting and we'll talk about guns and this latest news about the police officers which is spreading around and other stuff, too. >> jesse: actually only have one. >> greg: there's something else. you want to do another facebook question? >> dana: can i just say something, though, about your twofers. you do them fast. people love the animal videos and things like that. i think you can keep doing those. >> greg: i'm not doing anything anymore. i'll go to my room and listen to my albums. >> jesse: do less, greg. journal. they hurt your feelings. >> kimberly: eight part one more thing. >> greg: one who needs to do
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A young woman disappears, and a chance encounter with a stranger on a train may hold some answers.
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named ethan mack standing at the counter of a bank waiting to cash a check signed by kate waring. problem was her account barely totalled $100, and this check was for $4500, and the signature seemed off. the teller called kate's dad. he called police. >> i never met ethan, didn't know ethan's last name. all i knew was the name ethan who was a friend. it's too strong to say that she had a secret life, but she certainly had friends and did things that we didn't know anything about. >> of course she did. she was 28 years old. and even though she was financially and emotionally dependent on her parents, she had lots of friends. some they knew, some they didn't. it was howard gatts, for example, a martial arts trainer in the midst of a contentious divorce with whom kate had been carrying on something of a romance. >> i felt that in my heart something was wrong.
and i was -- i was concerned. >> then there was jason locke, a young lawyer with whom she often shared lunch and a spirited debate. >> she was strong-willed. she was very energetic. she was rarely, rarely incorrect. that's a -- >> her best friend, as she made clear to all the others, was ethan mack. >> she really liked ethan. she really trusted him. "this is my best friend, jason." she put a lot of trust in him. >> she's a lovable person, full of energy, always rambunctious. >> ethan worked in a local hotel. a very different background than kate. but he'd been her best buddy for years and in a way her protector. everybody in ethan's neighborhood knew you didn't mess with kate when ethan was around. they loved each other like -- well, siblings. >> i made sure no harm would come to her when certain little boyfriends would act like they got hand problems.
i would put them in their place -- >> it wasn't a romance at all then? >> never at all. she was like a little sister to me. >> it was a token of his family's regard for kate that she was godmother to ethan's nephew, malachi. on her moscow trip, kate bought herself and ethan matching brass bulldog key chains. and on that monday morning in june, said ethan, he was very worried about kate, just as he had been for years as he helped her battle her demons. >> calm her down and talking to her and understanding what was going on in the world of kate. >> but now he complained, here was kate's dad sending the police to talk to him about a check kate told him to cash. ethan explained to the cop, david osborne, about the money he'd given kate for jewelry and other expenses and that the check was to pay him back. >> he was basically best friends with katherine, had been for several years.
>> in fact, ethan told detective osborne he was very likely the last friend to see her before she disappeared. >> he said that he had saw her friday night, had dinner, had drinks, came back, dropped kate off back at her house. >> did he say what time? >> yeah. i think the time would have been probably around 11:30, 11:45 at that time. >> the detective checked, of course, and found text messages that confirmed what ethan told him. he even went to the house ethan shared with his mom. >> and they both let me in. and they both allowed me to search it. the mother and ethan both told me this is his room, this is where he stays. >> but to say that the instant suspicion on the part of the warings and the police was upsetting to ethan was probably an understatement. >> good evening, mr. waring and mrs. waring. this is ethan mack calling -- >> this is the voicemail he left for the warings after that policeman poked around his place as if he was some murder suspect. >> i think you need really check
that and go find out or go see what really happened and find the person who did something to her and stop harassing me. cause the only thing i ever did was try to help her in a million ways. >> so dead end. the police moved past ethan, checked kate's cell phone record, found she'd made a call late that friday that pinged on a tower in a place called james island, several miles from her house. but phone pings can be funny that way sometimes, they told the warings. one tower's busy, the next over picks it up. probably made the call from home, they said. they also promised to keep looking for her. but really kate was known to have gotten herself in and out of trouble a time or two, and police resources were limited. and well, tom waring got the cops' message. >> we do not know for a fact that a crime has been committed here. >> after all, the warings were reminded, kate was a world traveler. could well have just picked up and gone back to russia. might be aboard some tramp steamer even now.
she and kate had words. but at 8:00 p.m., a drugstore camera showed kate relaxed, talking on her cell, buying wine and snacks while waiting on her prescription refill. ethan paid for dinner. chicken, salmon teriyaki. >> like a japanese like -- kind of like cuisine-type thing. >> she didn't drive, so he took her home. dropped her off before midnight. something earlier that friday that bothered the warings at first was terrifying them now. the more they thought about it, the worse it seemed. just before she went to the drug store friday evening, she started telling her father about some problem. >> saying that she felt like she perhaps had unintentionally got herself in trouble. and i said, "well, why don't you tell me about that." and she wouldn't tell me any details. >> was she clearly worried? >> she was concerned. >> clearly worried. >> about something.
>> naturally they told the police about that. nothing came of it. and as the air thickened into a steamy august, the weeks that passed brought no new leads. just tourists clamoring for the cool shade of historic carriage rides. and kate waring, the urgency of finding her, began to fade. >> and that was driving me nuts. i thought, i'm not going to put up with this. we've got to get going. we've got to get moving on this. >> and in the hushed cool of his perch overlooking the city, someone was listening. a new investigation begins. but it's not the police who are behind it. >> we're the cream of the crop, and our job was to find kate waring. not finding kate was not an option. >> who are these guys? when strangers on a train cons.
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of rooms overlooking the city where an influential philanthropist flipped through his mental roledex and placed a call to his friend, the chief of police. >> i really need a favor. i really need some help with this situation. >> the caller was this man, john rivers. happened to be a childhood friend of tom waring, watched kate waring grow up. john rivers told the police chief he was worried about kate, too. >> and he told me that, you know, they got a lot of stuff going on. >> sure. >> but that he would assign his best and brightest to the case. and i felt pretty good about that. >> but now almost two months later, kate was still missing. and the investigation such as it was had accomplished nothing. and john rivers couldn't stand what it was doing to his best friend, tom waring. >> i could see that he really was having a hard time functioning. >> so rivers picked up the phone
again and told this man, "do what it takes." his name is andy savage, former prosecutor, now famously tenacious criminal defense attorney. savage had heard about kate, too, and how police had no evidence of any crime. really? >> as soon as we scratched the surface just a little bit, we were absolutely convinced that foul play was involved. >> savage was given just two mandates -- find kate waring, tell police everything you find. that last part, keeping the police in the loop, should be easy, figured andy, given the team he assembled. a band of retired policemen-turned-private eyes. each with a particular talent. >> bobby minter. >> bobby minter, human blood expert. tracking people his specialty. >> bill capps. >> bill capps, techno geek. tracks bad guys through cyber-space. happens to be a crack shot. >> james randolph. >> james randolph. ex-police department rebel.
strategy his specialty. shaking things up a particular skill. >> we're the cream of the crop. and our job was to find kate waring. not finding kate was not an option. >> experience told james the best place to start was with kate herself. >> if we listen to kate, she'll tell us where she is. >> james went to the house on the battery, up the stairs, down the hall, and into kate's bedroom. >> these type cases, you have to take on the personality, and you have to see this person's world through their eyes. >> he sat there for a bit, looked around. the russian notes in kate's handwriting made sense, but why chinese paper money? and why was her brand-new prescription sitting there untouched? >> the medication in which she had gotten for a prescription was still on her dresser, unused. >> that medication was her lifeline.
she needed it to counter depression, anxiety, insomnia. she never left home without it. meanwhile, cyber-sleuth bill capps buried himself in social media sites. kate used them. bill scoured them all. >> if she was awake, she was facebooking, she was texting, she was calling people on the phone, she was e-mailing. and at the time she went missing, when everything immediately ceased, i mean, that was completely out of character for her. >> using kate's friends, capps built an electronic map of her communications the friday night she vanished. from kate's friend jason locke, capps retrieved the weird voicemail left that evening. >> 10:06 p.m., missed call. voicemail. voicemail said that someone had "stolen her identity," and had obtained a couple of credit cards in her name. she wanted me to sue the person responsible. >> the gym trainer and kate's
romantic interest, howard gatts, told capps he heard from her about 10:30 p.m., still at dinner with ethan then. there was another call. it was after midnight. well after police believe she was dropped off at him. >> she told me she was at some friend's house. they had already made it to the house. she sounded a little buzzed. >> and then a very last message from kate. a text. very strange. >> "i'm off to greenville to pick up some lovely." whatever lovely was i had no idea, you know, and, "i'll be back in a few days." >> did that make sense to you? >> no. >> be careful, he replied. but this time she did not text back. silence from kate. except the middle of the night, her cell phone pinged out on james island, miles from her home. the cops had surmised, remember, that a closer tower to her house may have been too busy to handle the call. but at 1:53 in the morning?
not a chance, thought andy savage. >> just preposterous. they were looking for an explanation, plausible explanation, consistent with their theory that she voluntarily left. [ ringing ] >> that middle of the night call, by the way, was to her voicemail. >> the mailbox is full -- >> the voicemail box that had been jammed full once during which time she hadn't used it or called it at all. so the question -- >> why would she call voicemail? she would not be doing it. >> only one conclusion to draw. >> somebody else was using her phone. >> but where was kate now? had she as the one text suggested left town looking for drugs or lovely? if that's what lovely meant? for the moment, it was a dead end. and then -- then he called. eugene frazier, legendary 34-year homicide detective now retired. >> i believe that if a man commits a crime, he should be prepared to do the time.
>> thing is about gene frazier, over here on charleston's james island where his ancestors go back to slave days, gene gets tips. all kinds of tips. and one day a church friend told gene he'd heard the police had been to ethan mack's house. and something strange about that. >> said, "listen, i don't think this is right," he says. "ethan mack is living in an apartment that i have rented out to his father." >> but the police didn't search this place where ethan actually lived, said the landlord. they searched his mother's house on a different island miles away where ethan told them he lived. >> and he says, "i think that he's trying to mislead the police." >> what did you think when you heard that? >> this guy got something to hide. >> and on that very day, gene frazier joined a band of ex-cops which, from now on, we'll call the a-team.
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by the time andy savage put his a-team together to look for kate waring, that lovely young charleston woman had been missing two months. according to kate's parents, tom and janice, the charleston police were still saying this -- >> they think maybe she went somewhere. she's probably just up in greenville. >> what did you say to that? >> she doesn't have a car. how's she going to get there? >> it was after that when the a-team's gene frazier got a tip. kate's best friend ethan lied about where he lived. he didn't live where he allowed police to search. he really lived in one of two apartments five miles away which you presented to the police. >> yes. >> and? >> they didn't search the house. they never got a search warrant. they never asked for permission to search the house. they never said, "hey, you misled us two months ago." >> but as the a-team discovered, ethan failed to mention something else, too. he had a girlfriend in this little place, a woman named heather angelica kamp.
and when janice waring heard that, her mind went straight to an afternoon at home three months earlier. >> i heard voices upstairs. and so i went up, and katie had this strange girl in -- that i'd never met before in the room with her. >> and that was her name, heather kamp. kate explained she met and rapidly became fast friends with heather on the train to palmetto during her trip down from washington. typical kate, janice thought back then. drawn to someone who needed help, who had told her a hard luck story. >> she said when she got on the train, her pocketbook was stolen. and she's here in charleston, and she doesn't have any money. and i'm helping her out until she can whatever. >> but kate told her mother that heather would pay her back soon because she was a pediatric surgeon in charleston to take a new post at the local medical center.
then a few days later, a distraught kate told her mother that heather's daughter back home in new jersey had been killed in a car accident. but something seemed odd about that, said janice. >> didn't seem like she was rushing to go up to new jersey to attend to the child that had been -- >> or that she was a grief-stricken woman. >> grief-stricken woman. she did not look that way at all. >> and now here was news that heather was living with kate's friend, ethan, in this tiny apartment. >> to me, she looked like a con artist. >> but no, said kate back then. janice had it all wrong. heather was nice. in fact, kate said she'd introduced heather to her friend ethan and very quickly a romance had blossomed. they were even talking marriage. really? if janice waring was suspicious about heather back then, the a-team was doubly so now. sure enough a few key strokes on the internet told bobby that mother's intuition was right.
>> she had been arrested for forgery in indiana. but she'd been arrested in other states, too. >> essentially if you just googled her name, i suppose you could find out a fair amount. >> that's how i found her. she'd been impersonating a doctor. i just googled her. >> and ethan wouldn't be her first husband. she had been married before and had four children. now that they knew about heather a few fuzzy details were suddenly clearer. the one thing -- the last dinner with ethan made more sense because there were three meals on the dinner bill. the other diner was heather kamp. and more important, that check ethan tried to cash, the one the teller flagged, maybe that was another heather forgery. right away, point man james randolph rushed that information over here to police headquarters. surely somebody here would put two and two together. a woman known to have committed forgery in indiana and other states, a so-called best friend
who tries to cash a bogus check with kate's name on it and lies to police. seems like evidence these two were involved in her disappearance up to their necks. enough to haul them in anyway, but -- >> i was told that the story panned out. and that these were petty criminals, and the check was going to be taken separate from the missing person. >> what did you say to that? >> i just didn't think it was the right thing to do. we had to figure out who wrote and endorsed those checks, who signed and wrote the checks. >> sure. it was obvious the a-team would have to find the connection between ethan and heather and kate's disappearance without police help. >> sort of remained stealthy as much as possible. >> time to keep a careful, quiet eye on ethan mack and heather kamp. so gene frazier persuaded his church friend, ethan's landlord, to allow surveillance specialist bobby minter to tuck a hidden camera into the corner of the kitchen window.
a camera trained right at ethan's front door. >> it was a motion detected just like the light that they've got over the door is. when they drove in, it would light up, and it would light up for our camera. >> the whole camera itself, keith, was about the size of this little flashlight. it was pointed directly at the apartments. >> that's pretty slick. >> no doubt about it. >> and that's enough illumination to illuminate to see what they would be carrying. and that would lead us to know that they had something to do with kate's disappearance. >> and when ethan and leather left the apartment, bobby had that covered, too. he'd already tracked ethan to his job at a local hotel and attached a gps locator on his car as it sat in the parking lot. now there was no minute of the day when the team didn't know where ethan and heather were and what they were doing. and almost immediately, they got a surprise. when ethan was at work, heather
sneaked over to visit the man living next door. rode around town with him. >> they were going to the bank a lot. and i called one of the investigators of wachovia. as a result of that, they found that they were kiting checks. they were actually stealing money from the bank. >> despite what bobby told the bank, it never resulted in charges against anybody. but that wasn't all he discovered. the gps tracker on ethan's car led bobby to a couple of local pawnshops. >> pawning jewelry. the jewelry was a red flag to us. >> was it kate's jewelry? they couldn't be sure yet without more surveillance, that is. and then the landlord called gene again, another tip. this one bad. ethan and heather weren't paying rent. >> he says, "i'm going to evict these people." so after he said that -- >> this is not good news. >> i said, "hold on. if these people are evicted, we don't know where they're going." >> if the a-team didn't think of
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extra. returning to our story here again is keith morris son. the team of retired detectives searching for kate waring had a big problem. crime-solving 101 told them heather and ethan had to be serious suspects. the last people to see kate alive. one a known forger, the other on tape trying to take money from kate's bank account. but they were about to be evicted for lack of a rent payment. and if that happened, they would slip the invisible net the a-team had so carefully woven. >> mind you, we had the camera, we had the gps, we've been tracking every movement that they have. >> so they made a call here to the quiet office overlooking charleston where the team's money man, john rivers, decided he'd pay ethan's rent. secretly, of course. and it was a plan which after a little brainstorming offered a bonus, a built-in opportunity. here's how. the a-team wanted to know if heather or ethan forged kate's
$4500 check, but they needed original handwriting samples. >> we determined what was on the check that we needed comparison samples to. and we had numbers, obviously, on the check. >> then the a-team helped ethan's landlord prepare ious that contained the numbers and letters. when ethan and heather signed the document, they provided the sample that could prove they forged kate's check. the team took the handwriting to mickey dawson, who set up the police handwriting lab. the question was simple -- did heather and/or ethan forge that check from kate, the one ethan tried to cash? >> immediately that day our handwriting document examiner said, "that's them. no question about it." >> so if ethan and heather forged a check from kate, what else did they do? someone on the team needed to get a look inside that apartment. if kate had been there, there still might be evidence of
something. but how to get in? >> well, the landlord has a right to inspect a tenant's homes for health and safety and welfare. and the landlord decided that he needed to go in and spray for bugs. >> you can understand why that might be done in that little place. >> james thought it would be best if he went with him to make sure that the bugs were all taken care of. >> surveillance expert bobby minter's gps device showed ethan's car was out somewhere. >> well, when we opened the door to go inside, ethan mack's sitting on the couch smoking a joint. >> for god's sakes. >> i'm like, hell, with the exterminator, we're going to be using dangerous chemicals. you'll have to step out on the outside while we get this done. >> no idea who you were? >> no, no, no. >> you sure about that? >> absolutely. >> yeah. >> the exterminator and i went inside and closed the door behind us.
just searched the apartment. and in one of the backpacks, in ethan mack's backpack, was some chinese money. chinese currency. >> chinese money? yes. just like the chinese bills james saw in kate's bedroom. janice waring had brought the bills to kate from hong kong, souvenirs. had ethan stolen them? time to stir things up. apply some pressure. bobby minter knew just how. >> bobby put on every telephone pole, every vacant house, every oak tree, every stop sign, "wanted: information, missing person, kate waring's" poster. >> where the people hung out. >> wherever they went, including on mack's windshield when he was working that day. we put posters to send a psychological message to them. >> but no response. at which point john rivers said --
>> perhaps what they do understand and on the street as it were is andrew jackson. and maybe benjamin franklin. and they would recognize their faces on a $20 or $50 bill. >> $10,000 worth of bills went into a grocery bag. >> 10s, 20s, 50s, and 100s. a bag with -- when you open it up, you know, two rolls and then everybody sees that. the eyes just jump. >> where better to leave that bag of money, they decided, than under the nose of the neighbor heather was going to see. the man named terry williams, the one who seemed to be kiting checks with her. >> we knocked on the door, and terry williams come to the door with no shirt on. >> uh-huh. >> no shirt on, short pants. terry, listen, we know you're great friends with these people, mack and kamp. you don't have to live in this condition. we know you're back on your rent. we know -- look at that bag of
money. this could be all yours. >> now to close the sale with terry williams, they try to bluff. >> tell us what happened to kate and where we can find her. we know mack and kamp killed her. and this money could be yours. and at that point, that's when the side -- the bedroom door busts open, and there's a lot of yelling and screaming. >> to their other surprise, there came heather kamp. angrily and quickly pulling her clothes back together. didn't appear to be a business meeting the team interrupted. the detectives told her who they were and who they worked for. >> and then heather kamp gets on the cell phone and makes a call to ethan mack. and says, "ethan, investigators are here trying to get terry williams to roll on us." and when she said that, the three of us looked at one another and -- police terms, we knew that was definitely the case. we knew, hey, they had done it. >> yes, decades of investigating
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>> that's when it hit home. kate was the latest of hundreds of people still lost in south carolina. and it seemed to janice and tom that police weren't taking cases like theirs seriously. so what about all those other families also desperate for help? the warings held a vigil to make common cause. >> somehow or another, somebody will be moved and want to come forward and tell us where katie is. >> that was the public waring family. at home the private tom waring couldn't help but be drawn back to the play-back button on the voicemail. just to hear her voice. >> dad, mom? if you're there, pick up the phone. if you're there, pick up the phone. call me back later. bye. >> i would look at photographs of her or play those voicemail messages, just keeping her voice current in my mind. >> meanwhile, andy savage's a-team of ex-detectives was making progress. when they flashed that fat
grocery bag of cash around the neighborhood, they certainly got a rise out of ethan and heather. a furious ethan called andy. >> your investigators are out here. they're accusing me of being involved in this homicide. kate was my best friend in life. as he's on the phone, kamp calls. she starts out in this rage about, you know, what are you doing out here, accusing me of this, we had nothing to do with that. >> fascinating reaction, thought andy savage. and perhaps an opportunity. >> we had done a lot of background on kamp. and so we knew her and we knew her personality. we knew a little about what buttons to push. so the reaction we had toward heather was one of comfort. not one of angst. and during that time, we planted the seeds that as a mother she must know the feeling of janice waring missing her daughter and tried to apply to her empathy for a mother.
>> the call from heather wasn't all that fat bag of money accomplished. before long, it reeled in a fish. that neighbor heather was sneaking off to see called, too. the a-team went to talk to him. >> and he said, "i know ethan and heather did something to kate." and terry went in the back room, came back out, and had this ipod. and terry said, "i believe this ipod is going to belong to kate." >> now that was huge. the last time kate was seen with that ipod it was at the gym the day she went missing. now a man kate never met said heather gave him the ipod days after kate disappeared. just to be sure this was, in fact, kate's ipod, tech expert bill capps got the serial number. and within minutes had the proof. >> i examined the registry files from all the computers that we had access to that kate had used in the past.
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>> the a-team told the police about the ipod and also handed over the handwriting expert's report showing that heather and ethan forged kate's check two days after she vanished. and now things started happening fast. after her heart-to-heart with andy savage, heather made a remarkable decision. she called the charleston police department and confessed. no, not to murder. instead, she said it was she who forged the bogus check supposedly signed by kate waring. and ethan who tried to cash it two days after kate disappeared. now surely the police would swoop in and arrest them both. but here's something you should know about the way it worked between the a-team and their former colleagues, the cops. the deal was entirely one way. that's to say the a-team told the cops everything they uncovered. the cops told the a-team nothing. so they kept their ears to the ground, waited for something to happen, but they didn't have to wait for long. >> we knew something was up.
and so first thing we did was yanked the gps off the car because we didn't want the police to seize the car and have our gps. >> ethan was easy enough for the charleston police to find. they arrested him at his hotel job. but they didn't seem to know where to find heather. so -- >> we had to tell them where she was working. obviously, they didn't have a surveillance on her. so -- >> you could tell them that. >> we told them. >> we told them where heather kamp was working. i mean, we -- >> the gas station she's working at -- >> the sunoco gas station. >> i walked into the gas station, bought a pepsi and paid for it. and the police officer in uniform had pulled up. he was peeping around the corner of the building. i said, "that's her inside." >> ethan and heather were charged with forgery and obstruction of justice for the murder charge following shortly. >> we get a call from -- of course we do have friends still at the police department.
we get a call that, hey, the police are searching the island for kate waring's body. >> the island, wild, beautiful, isolated and 20 miles from kate's home on charleston's battery. >> so i got in my car and drove out to the island. >> and there were the police. a serious search going on. >> so i sat there in the shade and watched them all afternoon. didn't attempt to interview. -- interfere. watched police officers and cadaver dogs. ton of folks. >> the cops brought heather here to lead them to kate waring's body. >> there were a couple of detectives knew. i asked them, any luck? they said no and continued driving on. >> police called off the search, drove heather back to jail. had she intentionally given them bad information? perhaps nobody would find kate,
not the police, not the a-team, and then -- >> we got a terrific break by the criminal justice system. mack and kent both came to the bond hearing and it's done by video. at the bond hearing, mack shows up with his family. >> yeah. >> who were all there to support him. and not only a public defender but the chief public defender. >> wow. >> kent has no one. she has no family. she has no friends. she has no support to speak on her behalf. >> yeah. >> i immediately said, james and jean, go see her. treat her with kindness. treat her with caring. >> and within minutes, the same men who had so upset heather with their bag of money were face-to-face with her. >> what was the look on her face when she came out? >> she was surprised. >> stunned. >> stunned. very surprised. and i said, heather we need your help here. all we want is the body.
and she said, well, they didn't find her, did they? she said, i put them through the test. they told me they were going to help them. they wouldn't arrest me. and the minute i told them the area which she was, the general area where she was, they got all abusive with me, you know? they berated me. so they failed the test. >> and just at that moment, what happened was, well, sheer luck. >> directly across the lobby on the male side of the visitation area, they brought -- to see his attorneys who happened to arrive the same time we did. >> just coincidentally? >> coincidental. >> also coincidentally, the jailers positioned ethan and heather across the hallway from each other separated by glass partitions. >> they could see each other? >> oh, yeah. there's the detective there with her. she's over there ratting you
out. she's waving trying to get ethan's attention. so she snaps and she breaks. >> with a little more encouragement from andy savage, that is. his deal, if heather told him exactly where to find kate's body and if it turned out she had nothing to do with any murder, andy would help her with her forgery charges. and at that moment, heather kamp agreed to tell the a-team what they needed to know. her directions were precise. they drove out here right away. >> that's the large oak tree she described. then she says, if you look farther up to the left in the marsh, you'll see a dock that is running down to the water. and she says, "after you do that, you'll look to your left, over here on my right and left, and you'll see some underbrush growing." and she said, "that's kate's
remains --" she didn't say the body, is 5 feet from this roadway. >> incredibly detailed. just the sort of place to leave a body. but, just like the police, the team found nothing. >> i was very disturbed. why are we not finding her? because we were -- we were convinced she was here. >> they searched until darkness finally forced them out of the marsh and then they called andy savage, who was out of town on business. >> they're on a cell phone from where they are. i'm in a hotel in boston. i punch up the address on google earth. i'm looking at the satellite imagery of where they are. i said, well, james, is there a dock off to your left? so i was pretty well able to identify where they were. i said, what you got to do is just print that off. >> isn't that amazing you can do that from thousands of miles away? >> you can also do it from the police station. >> the google map clearly showed the a-team exactly where and how
they lost the trail. after investigating so much, savage wasn't ready to give up on heather. but he wasn't naive either. >> we knew that she was a sociopath liar. i wanted something specific from her. give me something that nobody else knows so that we can believe what you're saying is truthful. that's when she told us about the souvenirs from kate's body, the jewelry she was wearing and where it was located. >> they found kate's jewelry at a pawnshop. behind their dresser in the tiny apartment, kate's old dog key chain, the one she had gotten in moscow. ethan said heather took it from kate's purse as a memento. she was telling the truth. armed with andy's google map and more details from heather, they would return to the island. >> what we were believing was coming to fruition. all of our suspicions about her
activity and mack's activity, at that point we knew we had the right people. >> one thing, they'd be going without the police. good idea? maybe not. coming up -- the a-team under arrest? >> what do you mean you were arrested? >> we were not free to leave. they made that clear. >> this was a twist even they didn't see coming when "strangers on a train" continues. year, i am sorry about that. [music playing] (vo) progress is in the pursuit. audi will cover your first month's lease payment on select models during summer of audi sales event.
gene frazier shared a car from the city. they rode in silence most of the way, confident the precise directions heather kamp had given them were correct this time. so this was it. it was somehow fitting that bobby, the one they called "the human bloodhound," was the first to spot her. >> i saw what looked like an animal path. where animals or something had pretty much beat down the bush. so i walked up to the animal path and started walking parallel with the road. and walked up, and i saw what looked like bones. and i said, "i think i found her." i said, "hey? hey, y'all, come here. i think i found her." it was just like a ton of bricks came off me at that point. i said, "oh, my god. there she is." you know, wasn't much left. just bones. >> in the end it took only six minutes to find the earthly remains of kate waring.
and thus, at last, fulfilled their promise to her parents. >> i saw where bobby was standing, and i took two shots with my camera just to document the scene the way it was when we saw it. then i just backed out of the woods, and bobby followed me out. we called 911. >> 911, what's the nature of your emergency? >> yes, ma'am, this is robert minter. >> okay, you need police, fire, or ems? >> police. >> what's the address? >> no address. it's in the woods. we found a body of kate waring. >> you believe you found the body of kate waring? >> yes. i know we did. >> in the woods? >> yes. >> listen to what happens after bobby hangs up. the 911 recording continues -- [ ringing ] >> you can hear the operator spreading the word around to other officers, a bit skeptical that the four-month-long mystery is finally solved. >> hello? >> hey, sarge. you ready for this? >> no. >> this guy is adamant that he found kate waring in the woods
off of polly point road. >> off of where? >> polly point road. wadmalaw island. >> all right. why is he adamant? >> he says he knows it's her. >> out on the island off polly point road, the trio of former cops instinctively revert to the long practiced standard procedure. >> we said, okay, let's secure the crime scene, back out, wait for law enforcement to get here. >> so far, so good. but what happened next was quite a surprise. >> the first officer was a charleston county deputy. and i said, "we'll show you where the remains are." took him out there and said, "it's your crime scene now, and we're backing off." and that's what we did. >> but that wasn't the end of it, was it? >> no. >> no. we were detained, to put it mildly. >> detained? >> detained, placed in separate police cars. >> what do you mean -- you were arrested or -- >> well, very strictly i guess by the legal definition, we were not free to leave. they made that clear.
and, one, we couldn't leave because they took my -- they seized my car. >> but wait a minute. you found the body and showed them where it was. >> that's correct. they wanted a statement from us as to everything that we had done from the very beginning. not just what we had done that day. >> the whole, long story? >> that's basically what they were asking for. and in fact, they had been given the story along and along as it occurred. >> hours later the ex-detectives were finally released. but not bill capps' car. didn't get that back until they filed motion papers for an injunction. even now, years later, the memory still rankles all of them. 34 years in the police department. to sit in the back of a police car and have some guy question you, get you to take a statement. >> that's right. like a criminal. that's what -- we were sitting in the back of a car like a criminal. let's call it like we see it. >> still, this was it. the news traveled to the house on the battery.
the warings fell from their anxiety and into grief. >> mixed emotions. relief that she's been found, but at the same time, devastating grief that now you have conclusive evidence that your only daughter is dead and that you're never going to see her again. >> and then as soon as they were allowed after the crime scene tape came down, after all the evidence was taken away, the whole team assembled at the spot where kate lay hidden for so long. all except tom waring, who did not want the image burned in his brain, the dismal place the love of his life lay dead. but perhaps it was a mother thing. janice had to be here, she said. had to see it. >> it helped me to see for myself it was so remote. we wouldn't have found her in a
million years. and not knowing where she is, i mean, it's just -- it would have been horrible. >> they formed a circle, held hands around the place they knew she had been. >> one of the investigators is a deacon in his church. and he said a prayer. >> this beautiful water, marsh, and docks. i think it might have given mrs. waring some peace thinking, you know, at least she wasn't in a garbage dump somewhere. it was a peaceful place, you know, god's place. >> now the a-team had done its job, and kate's killers could finally be brought to justice. or so you'd think. but the mystery, the web that was spun on that train down from washington was far stranger, more bizarre than you have so far heard. and justice? well, we shall see.
coming up -- they thought they solved the case, but would it stick? >> actual evidence, it just wasn't there. >> and the close call that just might have saved kate waring's life. >> if i could have hung on one more month i could have helped them get her. when "strangers on a train" continues. new customers bundle and save big, but now it's time to find my dream abode. -right away, i could tell his priorities were a little unorthodox. -keep going. stop. a little bit down. stop. back up again. is this adequate sunlight for a komodo dragon? -yeah. -sure, i want that discount on car insurance just for owning a home, but i'm not compromising. -you're taking a shower? -water pressure's crucial, scott! it's like they say -- location, location, koi pond. -they don't say that. it's like they say -- location, location, koi pond. sfx: [cell phone dialing] no.
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kamp practically leapt at a deal to turn state's evidence against ethan to plead guilty to murder in exchange, her krecredibilitys you'll soon seize, was not exactly aaa. and despite all the information the a-team uncovered, what could be used in court was thin. >> i mean, frankly, we didn't have a lot of evidence. we had a lot of opinions, and we had a lot of conjecture. but actual evidence, it just wasn't there. >> kate's skeletal remains gave the solicitor none of the forensic evidence that juries like to see. and the coroner was unable to establish even a cause of death. as for those personal items of kate's that they found in ethan's apartment, those could just have easily been gifts. the two were supposedly best friends after all. and to top it off, there was the amazing tale that came with the state's star witness, heather. it's true she helped the warings' investigators found kate's body and agreed to testify against a man she
revealed she actually married soon after the crime. but heather was also, as ethan's lawyer was discovering, a gray grade-a, world-class liar. >> not only was she a drifter. this was a true con artist with just the most horrid background of anyone i'd ever seen. i mean, a true sociopath. >> david ada was certain that heather kamp back on that trail from charleston to palmetto took one look at kate waring and knew she'd found her ideal next mark. why was he so sure? his research, he said, had turned up enough kamp victims to fill a small bus to the poorhouse. >> we had 13 different names that we could use. we called all 13. >> whoa. >> these were men and women all over the country. she would say that, you know, she was pregnant, she would say that her children had died of leukemia, that men had beat her. >> her scam -- troll the internet for men, latch onto one, move in, fleece him, and leave him with a mountain of debt.
all the while pretending to be a doctor, an heiress or the daughter of a mafia-style drug family. >> that was probably the worst whirlwind i've ever been through, seen, done in my entire life. >> there was chris beard, for example, in pennsylvania. >> just being around her made me feel better because that's what i wanted, you know? i wanted to be loved. >> he found her on the internet. in less than two months, they were engaged and she said she was pregnant. >> at the time that i had met her, i had no credit cards to my name whatsoever. >> she persuaded him, he said, to get 15 cards which she maxed out, leaving him $33,000 in debt. by the way, she told chris' sister-in-law, lori -- >> that she was a pediatric burn
specialist and that she had worked with children. that was her specialty. and as lori had been having some behavior issue with her daughter, heather gave the girl a blood test. >> see if, you know, there was anything wrong with her. >> and -- >> she said, i want you to know that your daughter's bipolar. >> but it was odd. how would she know based on a quick blood test whether or not her daughter was bipolar? and why would heather use her own diabetes kit for the test? lori hit the internet just to check out the woman who was playing doctor with her child. >> and found that, you know, she actually was a wanted felon. >> so she called the cops who arrested heather in the act of spending more of chris' money. but somehow heather slipped off the hook. though lori pressed charges and pushed hard for a prosecution, nobody followed through and lori eventually gave up. lives with the guilt now. >> i think it was a month or so after i gave it up, that's when she came to d.c. and she had met kate. and i always feel if i could
have hung on one more month, i could have have helped them get her. >> now as she prepared to defend ethan, david aler was feeling much better. his client's chief accuser, it appeared, was a practiced con artist. would any jury believe her? ethan might be naive, but his story, after all, had never changed. >> they had gone to dinner, he, kate and heather. after they went to dinner, he dropped kate back off at her parents' home here in downtown charleston and spoke with her a couple times via text message that night. and he didn't talk to her again after that. >> so it was all on heather. and with her as ethan's chief accuser, how could any jury convict him? but just days before the trial was to start, solicitor scarlett wilson finally uncovered something the case lacked. a clear motive. she found it, she said, in letters kate wrote to her friend just before she disappeared. >> she's talking about how
someone has tried to extend her credit limit or has tried to assume her identity and mess with her money in her bank. and she was livid. and i think kate was threatening to get her father involved. that was a new dimension. >> sure. >> for heather kamp. i mean -- >> she didn't need katie as an enemy. >> and i have no doubt katie confronted heather kamp with that. >> and that, the prosecutor said, is when heather kamp and ethan mack decided they had to keep her from talking. kate waring had to die. >> he began to make the choice to join in the scam to rip off kate waring. >> finally, the prosecutor scarlett wilson felt ready. and almost a year to the day after kate was found she launched the trial of ethan mack. the sole defendant in the courtroom. heather having taken the plea agreement. the warings tried to prepare themselves, though what they saw defied preparation.
>> we had to see images and see what it was like when they found her and then go through all the forensics. and we were seeing that for the first time along with the jurors and all those other spectators in the courtroom. >> one by one, the a-team took the stand, as did detectives and experts from the charleston police department, to present the evidence. >> over a stupid forgery. >> prosecutor wilson told the jury that ethan and heather killed kate to avoid getting caught for forging kate's checks and using her credit cards. then heather took the stand and told the jury it was ethan, not her, who lured kate to their tiny apartment, then smothered her, shocked her with a taser, drowned her in the bathtub, and dumped her body out on wadmala island because he thought no one would ever find her there.
so, did you think that you convinced that jury? >> i thought that the trial went better than i ever could have hoped. >> except, that is, for two things -- one, would the jury believe ethan actually killed his best friend, kate? and two -- >> heather kamp's a liar. heather kamp's jealous of kate. heather kamp's the one stealing. >> but heather's testimony did seem to terrify one person. ethan mack himself. and it showed. >> when he was in the courtroom waiting for the jury to come back, we have that picture of him. what was happening with your client? >> at that point, you know, true fear. you know, true fear. i could really see it. >> what hold did heather have on this man? did the jury, did anybody have this crime figured out? coming up --
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extra." i'm craig melvin. ethan mack awaited a jury verdict. would they find him guilty of murdering his best find kate waring or would they set him free? and what about the stranger kate waring met on a train, heather kamp? here again is keith morrison. >> you just never can tell how a jury will react to the fact of a complicated murder case or the accusations of a person like heather kamp. ethan mack cooled his heels while his jury tried to decide if he did or did not smother, beat, taser and drown his best friend, the woman he claimed was like a little sister to him. and then after 14 interminable hours, they trooped back into the courtroom and told the judge they could not decide whether or not ethan was guilty of murder. >> what i'm going to do is on the murder charge, i'm going to declare a mistrial on that.
>> mistrial, a hung jury. >> huge letdown. >> right. >> it wasn't going to be over. it wasn't going to end. we were going to possibly have to relive that whole event again. >> as she packed up her file, solicitor scarlett wilson vowed to find justice somehow. and then quite unexpectedly, there was an intervention from a surprising source. it was ethan mack's own church-going, no-nonsense mother. she had testified during the trial for her son, of course. gave a hint then of what she was made of. >> corrine mack dean, d-e-a-n. >> ethan's sort of a mama's boy, isn't he? >> yes, he is. >> do you know anything about your son having any involvement with kate waring's murder? >> no. >> if you did, would you stand
here today and support him? >> he'd know i'd turn him in. >> then as ethan's mother sat through the rest of the trial, she heard things. she knew her son. she knew when he was hiding something. so she went to see him in jane. ethan's attorney heard it all. so it did get loud in that cell when they were talking. >> it got very confrontational. basically his mother said, "there's more to the story, and you need tell it. you need to tell it right now." his mother wanted him to tell the truth and tell what happened. >> so it was decided. soon after ethan and his mother had their talk, he appeared before the judge and admitted he did participate in the murder of his good friend kate. he agreed to plead guilty to voluntary manslaughter in exchange for a 25-year prison sentence. >> you understand that the court still treats this as a guilty plea. >> yes, ma'am. >> and that your criminal record will reflect it as a guilty plea? >> yes, ma'am. >> of course, since heather
pleaded guilty to murder and forgery and obstruction of justice, they didn't need a trial for her either. guilty but mentally ill, by the way. at her sentencing, her attorney her therapist told the judge that she developed after a deeply traumatic childhood psychological disorders. some of which rendered her incapable of separating truth from her elaborate fictions and led to her years of failed marriages, abandoned children, and constant drifting. if heather was hoping for a shorter prison term because of that, she didn't get it. instead, solicitor scarlett wilson noted she continued to lie about important details after she made her deal to testify. because she broke the deal, the sentence, 39 years. 14 more than ethan. >> this was heather kamp's kill. while certainly ethan mack was involved and certainly he laid his hands on kate, i do not believe that but for heather kamp we would be here.
>> still, said andy savage after the fact, solicitor wilson could have had a much stronger case had the charleston police acted more aggressively. just one example, when police arrested ethan and heather -- >> because of their own incompetence, they released the property, the crime scene where the homicide took place, they turned it back over to the landlord without examining. the landlord went in and vacated the premises. he took all their furniture out and put it in storage. >> cleaned the place. >> cleaned the place. it wasn't until over two weeks later, knowing that the property had already been tainted, the crime scene was destroyed. >> no wonder scarlett wilson didn't have all the ammunition she'd have liked, said andy savage. the charleston police said they didn't see it quite that way. they did take the case of kate waring very seriously, they said, right from the beginning. and the second-guessing from the a-team was rather puzzling. at least according to captain thomas robertson.
>> i'm surprised. i really am. i think we both did a fabulous job, and i think the team of detectives that i had working from this agency and the support that we had is -- it was fantastic. >> what may have looked like inaction, said detective david osborne, was actually a careful and thorough investigation. one that didn't leave out any possibility. was there some point at which you thought this girl has -- she's probably dead? she's come to some serious harm? >> early on. >> early on? how many days after would you say? >> i would say that -- i mean, within that first week for sure. >> yeah? so you knew it was a murder investigation at that stage. >> no. i mean, it could have been an overdose. it could have been an accidental death. i think we felt like we were probably dealing with a death investigation. >> right. but neither tom nor janice waring was the least bit satisfied. hadn't the police suggested early on that kate may simply have skipped town on her own? it didn't seem to the warings
that they were trying very hard to find her. and what about all those other families of missing people, they asked? families without the resources to hire an a-team? >> unfortunately, missing people are low on the priority list nationwide. >> i feel like that a missing person or missing child should be just as important as a bank robbery because lots of people never find out what happened to their child. >> it was late, after midnight, when she came to the end of her story. ushered there by two people she believed to be good friends of hers. and nobody, not the warings, not the a-team, not the police, has heard the story you are about to hear. the competing stories of the last hours and minutes of kate waring's life. question is, whose story will you believe? her long-time friend, the uncle of her godson?
or the charming grifter, the woman who played with fate on the train? coming up -- heather versus ethan. >> i had a big conscious and he doesn't. he doesn't have a conscience. >> who really was behind kate waring's death? two very different tales. wen "strangers on a train" continues. if you use some of these moves way too often...
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eight hours from washington to charleston. fine setting to meet a stranger. sat in the same seat? >> sat in the same seat. laughed. we were joking the whole way. started talking. >> heather kamp, freshly supplied with jewelry and cash from her last mark, just by chance found herself sitting with a young woman wearing jewelry and perhaps with access to such cash as heather had never seen before. what did you see in her? why did you like her? >> she was funny. very funny. >> now sitting here in jail, heather claimed she came to see kate not as her next victim but as a friend. and when in charleston she professed her love for kate's buddy, ethan mack, and then eventually married him, that love was true, too, so she says now. and when she told them both all those well-practiced lies about being a doctor, about her husband and child being killed in an accident, et cetera, et cetera, those stories, she says, were just part of the schtick of, she admits it, of a con artist. >> that's what i do.
that's who i am. that's the way i've learned how to survive. >> but remember, in court, the prosecutor called heather the mastermind who lied to con kate, lied to manipulate ethan. lied about murder. you were the decisionmaker, you were the person who caused kate's death. >> i don't take it as that. >> stole from her, yes. but kill kate? no. heather kamp will not cop to that. instead, this was the story the grifter had for us. it was all ethan right from the start. >> my husband wanted to rip her off because she had money. >> but wait, why would ethan want any harm to come to his good friend kate? >> the trouble was is that ethan never considered her a friend. >> not a friend of hers at all? >> no. >> not like a sister or -- >> no. he was babysitting her and she became a problem for him. >> became a real problem, says heather, when kate found out that she and ethan were stealing from her.
>> she was like, "i'm going to put you guys in jail." and that scared ethan. and the whole nightmare began that night because he was not going to go to jail. >> so you're saying ethan was the mastermind, not you? >> yes. yes. >> and so after dinner that last night, said heather, they took kate back to their apartment. ethan got her a little high. >> after a couple of drinks, she was in a very good mood. >> there was a big suitcase on the floor. ethan dared her, says heather, get in. she did. didn't see the taser he was holding. >> he starts tasing her and doesn't stop. and by the time he removed the taser, she's not moving inside the suitcase at all. he races into the bedroom, grabs a pillow off the bed, comes back in. pushes me away, unzips the suitcase, takes the pillow, compresses it over her mouth, grabs the wine bottle that is maybe four feet away, takes the wine bottle, crack, crack.
i think maybe it's three times he hits her. he tells me to go inside the bathroom, start the water. >> she was terrified, she says. did you say, "ethan, stop?" >> i didn't say anything. >> didn't say anything at all? i didn't know what to do. i could hear him screaming, "help me!" and there was nothing i could do. of course she hides when she told ethan she was pregnant, but
that was for her own safety. >> i thought if i'm carrying his kid, i'm okay. he's not going to try to hurt me. >> really? and so then a moment later when asked why she didn't just leave ethan, slip away like she always did, she reverses herself. >> i didn't want to. i really loved him. >> and eventually she says she just had to confess. >> conscious is a bitch and i had a big conscious. and he didn't. >> and that's the truth. every single word. (door bell rings) it's open! hey. this is amazing. with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, are you okay? even when i was there, i never knew when my symptoms would keep us apart. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira can help get, and keep uc under control when other medications haven't worked well enough.
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>> evil lying type of person that could do anything she can to basically get her way. >> of course, it was different when kate brought heather around to see him that first time. >> she talked -- >> talked, told him all kinds of things. >> she told me her son died from a disease that she was trying to help find -- >> the cure for? >> the cure for because she was supposed to be a doctor, and she told me that her daughter and her husband got killed in a bad car accident. >> ethan was entranced, he said. claimed he believed everything she told him. that's when they moved in together, and each day he'd go to his hotel job, and she'd head off to the hospital to her doctor work. >> she would be getting up, putting on make-up, putting on her scrubs, putting on her white jacket with her name that was sewed in it. >> but heather had another story, says ethan, one she had used on other marks. but he didn't knee that. that members of her family were violent and powerful drug dealers. and one day, he says she told
him a terrifying story. her family members had learned that kate waring had sold out. she had ratted them out to police. kate was going to have to die. and those drug kingpins decided heather and ethan would be the executioners. >> she's saying her family basically telling her she better get rid of kate or they're going to get rid of us. and they're going to handle my family, too. they're going to kill my family. >> you believed this actually could happen? >> i done seen people get beat up over $5 and $10 and get shoot over for less than that. >> ethan's version of that awful night -- >> basically, zipped her up in the suitcase. that's when she came at me like, "ethan, we got to kill her." >> now right -- right then, ethan, she's lying in that suitcase, top is zipped up. what you do as her friend is -- you go and unzip the suitcase and say, ha, ha, okay, get up. right? >> no, it wasn't --
>> that's not how it worked. why not? >> it wasn't like that. because my mother, my sister, my daddy, too, and my life -- >> but says ethan, it was not he but heather who smothered kate with the pillow. >> i couldn't do it to her or kill her. she had to push me out of the way, and she jumped on top of her and started smothering her with the pillow. i went into the room, and i dropped down on my knees. and i be like, "help me, father, please. forgive me for what is going on and what i'm witnessing here and have happen in front of my face." >> yeah. you were praying, but you weren't pushing her off, you weren't stopping it. >> no, i couldn't stop her. i still was thinking those people were going to kill me. >> let me challenge you for a minute because i know you're a good friend to her. >> yes, sir. >> you were killing your sister, for god sakes. >> yes, it is. that's exactly what is right. >> the rest of it, the taser, the wine bottle bludgeoning, the
drowning in the bathtub, all heather, says ethan, not him. and when he helped hide their crime, when he actually married heather, that, says ethan, is because she told him she was pregnant. she wasn't, of course. but ethan says he believed her as usual, and he wasn't about to abandon his child. yeah, but you're married to a killer. you got married to her after the murder. >> just for her to stop threatening me with the running off and taking my baby. >> god's honest truth, says ethan, every single word. and now at night in his jail cell -- how often do you think about that moment? >> i think about it a whole lot. i deceived her. i never meant anybody harm. now look at me. >> you getting exactly what you deserve? >> yes, sir. i'm getting exactly what i deserve. i know i got to do this time in jail, but still i can't bring her back.
wherever all the powers that i ask for, and how much i ask the heavenly father to take my life away to bring hers back, it will not be done. >> no. it will not. not for him. not for the warings. it was in court that kate's father, tom, read one of the last things she ever wrote. they had gone to church together, he and the daughter who adored him, the girl about whom he worried so. and she scribbled something on a prayer note and stuffed it in a church pew just a couple of sundays before she boarded that fateful train. >> she wrote, "please pray for my father, tom waring, who worries himself sick and for nothing. i am and will be fine. if i die tomorrow, i have lived through almost everything and more, and i'm not afraid of anything. just know that i pray for god's forgiveness for bringing tears to my daddy's eyes."
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