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they get to do the work. we are aware for the time when we did do t we have several different products based on the type of surface. and staff was trained at that time, but thats when we were doing abatement on private property. >> i can just help a little bit. again, from the historic building perspective, of course, private property can be historic, too. but theres a difference between, of course, when its a public owned building or private owned building. perhaps some of it is an aw...

to eye with them, talk to them about kid things and most of all be patient. and who can document trouble and kind of see things on the horizon that might be issues coming up and who are familiar with the san francisco landscape. you know, i dont let just any cop come and do the overtime. very, very picky about who i get. and i get guys who are dependable and who are most of all good with kids. >> larry, part 2. >> about 18, roughly about five crews that go out total. but they remember ...

tag? and they cant remove the ghost, i dont think so. as a city, i dont think that would be where i would want to be. if they showed they made the effort to remove it, unless its extremely bad, i think theyre doing their due diligence to try and remove the graffiti. >> all right, thank you. do you want to -- is that one red or is that -- because there was red and it was asked by the same person. >> it was red and then asked by the same person. >> you know what, i can see a bunch of han...

cop come and do the overtime. very, very picky about who i get. and i get guys who are dependable and who are most of all good with kids. >> larry, part 2. >> about 18, roughly about five crews that go out total. but they remember their main focus is public, not private. so, in short thats the answer. >> [inaudible]. >> all public property. so, light poles, signal boxes. we do mailboxes, stickers, trees. garbage can. >> trash cans, yeah. >> [speaker not understood]. >> public. >> yeah,...

the same of the graffiti that was there before. the only difference is that you took a little bit of the pigment, but even worse. many times the personnel that tried to abate it is damaging the building, we just explained, by putting the pigment further in in that substrate. and -- or even worse, actually really dee facing the surface. when its historical heritage buildings, theres no return unless you do a major restoration. and this is what i dont understand. the citation is fulfille...

perhaps some of it is an awareness or an education about resource he he that are available. theres a whole gamut of people available to remove graffiti, people who have never done it before, maybe theyre painters but they just have access to materials and they are used to taking paint off. i guess farther down the spectrum of people that have never done it before and just want to be good citizens to remove graffiti. then you go up through -- you know, people who just specialize in graf...

to remove it properly? because based on the material thats actually being placed on the wall and the wall that -- the type of wall that is being placed on, do people just go out and have one particular product that they put on and expect it to come off, or is there some training thats going on to find out, okay, this is the application we need to use for this surface and this is the, you know, a different application we need to use for another surface? and how can you prevent that ghos...

radio room whenever they see graffiti on private property. we have corridor workers that work the major commercial corridors throughout the city. they also call it in. and we also take calls from 311. >> okay, thank you, larry. and i see a bunch -- well, two hands back here. so, were going to go ahead and have them step in and ask their questions. >> for dpw, regarding the ghosting, typically when that happens, do you have individuals that are actually trained in the removal and how to...

clarifications. finding an architectural conservator, finding somebody who does a lot of graffiti abatement on say masonry or whatever the substrate has to be so that you dont end up with or you can minimize those shadows and end up with a better end result. hope that answers the question. >> what we do in the city of edmonton, our contractor thats hired to work on all city clean up as well as our clean up program on private property, we ensure that when we tender the contract for our ...

understand it is whenever there is a graffiti on a -- the great majority -- and by the way, we have plagued on this issue here in san francisco. were talking about hundreds and hundreds of buildings with this issue. basically with brick surfaces where the property owner will get a citation for the violation to remove the graffiti. they send an untrained personnel to try to do it. they are not successful and they leave a graffiti shadow behind. as far as im concerned on an esthetic poin...