the 11-12 million people who are here. some places are gig driver s licenses and some localities are talking about letting them vote. they should be going through a process like our parent and grandparent did. learn about america, become americans, then you have got a strong border. you have a nation full of americans. eric: what is going on. let s look at the debt clock. $22 trillion. it just zips right up. the blue dogs are concerned about that. how do we rein that in? you have to worry about the deficit and the debt. we have to rein it in. one of the interesting factoids here, we are at the point just in our deficit interest we are